Hi James Group: It must be December because more of our December DNA Results are coming in!! Thomas Malcolm James received his 37 marker test results today. Thomas is one of those Vikings from the Haplogroup I. Charles James (#30109) is also Haplogroup I, but the two of them do not match in the 12 marker test. They are 2 markers off of a match so it is close. If Charles has the 25 marker test and is an exact match in the next 13 markers then they would be counted as a match. THOMAS MALCOLM JAMES #44611 E-mail: Thomas James tj48@comcast.net Thomas Malcolm James, 1877 Shawnee Co. KS-1958 Multnomah Co. OR/Bertha Smith Thomas Malcolm James, 1839 Erie Co. Ohio-1918 Shawnee Co. KS/Laura Wendell Thomas Malcolm James, 1805 Kiltrisk Parish Wexford Ireland-1887 Erie Co. OH/Francis Hill Thomas Malcolm James, ~1770 Ireland-1830 Erie Co. OH/Jane Taylor 44611 Thomas James I 13 22 14 10 13 14 11 14 11 12 11 28 15 8 9 8 12 23 16 20 28 12 14 15 15 10 10 19 21 14 14 17 19 36 38 12 10 Gwen Boyer Bjorkman gwenbj@seanet.com -----Original Message----- From: info@familytreedna.com [mailto:info@familytreedna.com] Sent: Tuesday, November 15, 2005 2:37 PM To: djames@nsmt.org; gwenbj@seanet.com Subject: New DNA Test Results Posted for a Group Member in Group James New Y-DNA13-25 results have been posted for Kit 44611 a member of your James group. Please remind your Group member to add his results at www.Ysearch.org, the FTDNA sponsored public database. When going to the Y-DNA Matches tab at his personal page, he will see an explanation and a link for the upload. Family Tree DNA

Surprise!! The DNA results were due back for Tommy Harper James on December 3 and here they are already. Maybe things are speeding up at the Lab at the University of Arizona. But I am sorry to report that Tommy does not match anyone yet in our James group. He does not have much information about his family except that he comes from a Samuel James of Massachusetts. We hope that Tommy can find out more by using the regular genealogical records like census records and court records. I have never seen a marker in a DNA test that was designated as one number plus another number but that is what we have here in the 3rd marker. It says 14+15. TOMMY HARPER JAMES #44808 E-mail: Tommy James tjames@adcomworldwide.com Samuel James MA/Viola Hicks 44808 Tommy Harper James R1b 13 25 14 + 15 11 11 13 12 12 12 13 13 29 David James will be posting these new results to our new website at: http://www.jamesdna.net And we will look forward to having more early James DNA results. The next tests that are due will be the four tests that are due on December 8th and 9th!! 39245 Y-Refine12to25 Y-DNA13-25 Markers Lee Allyn James 123 12/8/2005 42754 Y-Refine12to25 Y-DNA13-25 Markers Richard Dale James 123 12/8/2005 44611 Y-DNA37 Y-DNA13-25 Markers Thomas Malcolm James 122 12/9/2005 44840 Y-DNA25 Y-DNA1-12 Markers Thomas Dwain James 124 12/9/2005 Gwen Boyer Bjorkman gwenbj@seanet.com -----Original Message----- From: info@familytreedna.com [mailto:info@familytreedna.com] Sent: Monday, November 14, 2005 7:41 PM To: djames@nsmt.org; gwenbj@seanet.com Subject: New DNA Test Results Posted for a Group Member in Group James New Y-DNA1-12 Markers DNA test results have been posted for Kit# 44808, a member of your Family Tree DNA James Project. Family Tree DNA Notifications Center http://www.FamilyTreeDNA.com "History Unearthed Daily" Family Tree DNA

Here it is Friday again and here is the latest news about the James DNA tests. Troy James test went to the Lab today in batch number 126. Looks like we don't have any test results expected back this month but they will all start coming back in December. We have 32 participants in the James DNA test now and there are 8 tests that have not yet been returned to FTDNA. I hope that you are all checking our new webpage where David James is including all of this information. We hope that many more of you will join the James DNA test. www.jamesdna.net Kit Product Lab Test Name Batch Est. Result Date Comment 39245 Y-Refine12to25 Y-DNA13-25 Markers Lee Allyn James 123 12/8/2005 42754 Y-Refine12to25 Y-DNA13-25 Markers Richard Dale James 123 12/8/2005 43728 Y-Refine25to37 Y-DNA26-37 Markers John Stewart James 125 12/21/2005 44611 Y-DNA37 Y-DNA13-25 Markers Thomas Malcolm James 122 12/9/2005 44808 Y-DNA12 Y-DNA1-12 Markers Tommy Harper James 123 12/3/2005 44840 Y-DNA25 Y-DNA13-25 Markers Thomas Dwain James 124 12/23/2005 44840 Y-DNA25 Y-DNA1-12 Markers Thomas Dwain James 124 12/9/2005 45454 mtDNA HVR1 Frances Ann Lefevre 125 12/28/2005 45580 Y-DNA12 Y-DNA1-12 Markers Troy Stephen James 126 12/23/2005 Gwen Boyer Bjorkman gwenbj@seanet.com

Lee, Are you from the Gentry Family? Glynda

I totally agree with Susan's glowing remarks and cannot improve upon them except to say, we certainly appreciate your work on this effort. Lee Cagle Okla City

David and Gwen, What a wonderful new website!! Colorful and easy to read, and it makes clear which families are which!! I can't believe how many different James families there are. No wonder I have so much trouble sorting out just the ones in Pennsylvania :-) Thanks for putting together the new website! Susan --- Original Message --- From: Jamesdm49@aol.com To: JAMES-L@rootsweb.com Subject: New JAMES DNA web site >Gwen Bjorkman and I are pleased to announce that the JAMES Surname DNA web >site has a new look and a new address: www.jamesdna.net. > >Our test group is now up to 33 participants (nine of whom have joined in the >last several weeks) and family groups are beginning to emerge. We hope that >the new site design will make it easier for participants to see the family >groupings and associated lineages. > >We owe a great debt of thanks to Jeff Renner of the Baker Family DNA site for >his generous assistance, both for the overall design of the site and for >providing the starter code and technical advice during the design phase. > >Let us know what you think, and please direct any comments, corrections or >additions to me at jamesdm49@aol.com. > >Best regards, >David James >Co-Administrator, James Surname DNA Project

Gwen Bjorkman and I are pleased to announce that the JAMES Surname DNA web site has a new look and a new address: www.jamesdna.net. Our test group is now up to 33 participants (nine of whom have joined in the last several weeks) and family groups are beginning to emerge. We hope that the new site design will make it easier for participants to see the family groupings and associated lineages. We owe a great debt of thanks to Jeff Renner of the Baker Family DNA site for his generous assistance, both for the overall design of the site and for providing the starter code and technical advice during the design phase. Let us know what you think, and please direct any comments, corrections or additions to me at jamesdm49@aol.com. Best regards, David James Co-Administrator, James Surname DNA Project

In a message dated 11/7/2005 7:00:50 PM Pacific Standard Time, JAMES-D-request@rootsweb.com writes: finding cousins along the way. Very great choice of words, Susan. I agree with you, this is the way Genealogy was meant to be shared. Glynda

No one can tell anything about my father by looking at his public DNA results, other than the fact he matches several other men, and they share a common ancestor. I personally don't mind anyone knowing that, since that is the whole point of genealogy-tracing one's ancestors and finding cousins along the way. Eric James and I have a basic disagreement about DNA testing, and let's just leave it at that, right up there with not discussing politics or religion. I only wrote Sara on the James List because I was having trouble contacting her privately to answer her question. Now, back to genealogy everyone! Let's please have some fun!! Susan

I'm watching the James family DNA testing with interest. I descend from Catharine Russell James (my GGgrandmother) and I'd like to someday see her line proved by DNA. I had to find a cousin to donate to my BRADY dna testing. I wish more of that line would get involved! Joan Brady Norstedt

I have to concur with Eric James. I had my James test done through The James Preservation Trust, "not" because I thought I was a descendant of Frank and Jesse James, but I thought it was a good deal.....42 markers for less money than the 37 marker offered by Familytree. Don't get me wrong here, I have had a 37 marker done, and am upgrading another to the 37 marker through Familytree, so I am not putting Familytree down in any way. I like the website and it is very informative, I think, then the other DNA site. There may be someone else who are hoping to match the James brothers, but I am not one of them!! I haven't found one clue in my research that even points in that direction. Just thought I would put my two cents in, don't mean to step on anyone's toes here. I am just trying to find my James' ancestors, whoever they were. Bev ----- Original Message ----- From: Eric James<mailto:ericjames@ericjames.org> To: JAMES-L@rootsweb.com<mailto:JAMES-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, November 04, 2005 3:38 PM Subject: Susan Rosine to Sara Bowers re two James dna testing projects To Susan Rosine, Your public statement to Sara Bowers on the list James-L@rootsweb.com<mailto:James-L@rootsweb.com> copied below was somewhat inaccurate. In referring Sara to the study being conducted by The James Preservation Trust you stated, "The one you joined is primarily for people who believe they descend from the same James line as the outlaws Frank & Jesse James." This is surprising to me, given the correspondence of May 3, 2005 between myself and you in which I wrote to you the following" "Everyone thinks that dna testing is the solution to proving a relationship to Frank and Jesse James. Nothing could be further from the truth. There exists no y-chromosome, male delineated line of descendants from Frank and Jesse James, carrying the James surname." The purpose of the dna study being conducted by The James Preservation Trust is not to prove or disprove claimants to the family of Frank & Jesse James. The purpose is to delineate the dna data of those families known through genealogy research to share common relationships, and to perhaps discover some unknown families whose genealogy should be known but isn't. The study is a private study because we believe one's dna is one's ultimate identity, which deserves the highest degree of respect and privacy. Unlike other studies, we do not believe dna is information to be amassed in publicly dispensed databases, let alone amassed for the commercial purposes of packaging and reselling such information. One's dna is as personal, if not more personal, than one's hereditary health, and deserving of the same confidentiality as one would expect from one's doctor. ERIC JAMES ________________________ [JAMES-L] For Sara Bowers - Re DNA testing Susan Rosine [S.JAMES.CLARK@prodigy.net] Hi Sara, I tried to contact you three times directly, but I haven't heard back from you, so I assume you haven't gotten any of my emails. I wanted to be sure you didn't think I was ignoring you!! Part of the fun of genealogy for me is helping people with their lines, and sharing my research results with others. You wrote to me asking about the difference in the two DNA testing projects going on for the surname of James. The one you joined is primarily for people who believe they descend from the same James line as the outlaws Frank & Jesse James. The results are private; they can only be viewed by members. The other project, through FamilyTreeDNA, is public and can be viewed by anyone. It is for any and all James lines. You are welcome to compare the results of your brother's test with the results on the FamilyTreeDNA public site. If you find a match, you can contact that person (I think everyone has their email address posted). Please BE AWARE that the testing company you used lists the "marker numbers" in a different order than FamilyTreeDNA does! So if you want to compare them, first rearrange them!!! Good luck! Let me know if I can answer any more questions for you. Susan

To Susan Rosine, Your public statement to Sara Bowers on the list James-L@rootsweb.com copied below was somewhat inaccurate. In referring Sara to the study being conducted by The James Preservation Trust you stated, "The one you joined is primarily for people who believe they descend from the same James line as the outlaws Frank & Jesse James." This is surprising to me, given the correspondence of May 3, 2005 between myself and you in which I wrote to you the following" "Everyone thinks that dna testing is the solution to proving a relationship to Frank and Jesse James. Nothing could be further from the truth. There exists no y-chromosome, male delineated line of descendants from Frank and Jesse James, carrying the James surname." The purpose of the dna study being conducted by The James Preservation Trust is not to prove or disprove claimants to the family of Frank & Jesse James. The purpose is to delineate the dna data of those families known through genealogy research to share common relationships, and to perhaps discover some unknown families whose genealogy should be known but isn't. The study is a private study because we believe one's dna is one's ultimate identity, which deserves the highest degree of respect and privacy. Unlike other studies, we do not believe dna is information to be amassed in publicly dispensed databases, let alone amassed for the commercial purposes of packaging and reselling such information. One's dna is as personal, if not more personal, than one's hereditary health, and deserving of the same confidentiality as one would expect from one's doctor. ERIC JAMES ________________________ [JAMES-L] For Sara Bowers - Re DNA testing Susan Rosine [S.JAMES.CLARK@prodigy.net] Hi Sara, I tried to contact you three times directly, but I haven't heard back from you, so I assume you haven't gotten any of my emails. I wanted to be sure you didn't think I was ignoring you!! Part of the fun of genealogy for me is helping people with their lines, and sharing my research results with others. You wrote to me asking about the difference in the two DNA testing projects going on for the surname of James. The one you joined is primarily for people who believe they descend from the same James line as the outlaws Frank & Jesse James. The results are private; they can only be viewed by members. The other project, through FamilyTreeDNA, is public and can be viewed by anyone. It is for any and all James lines. You are welcome to compare the results of your brother's test with the results on the FamilyTreeDNA public site. If you find a match, you can contact that person (I think everyone has their email address posted). Please BE AWARE that the testing company you used lists the "marker numbers" in a different order than FamilyTreeDNA does! So if you want to compare them, first rearrange them!!! Good luck! Let me know if I can answer any more questions for you. Susan

Hi Sara, I tried to contact you three times directly, but I haven't heard back from you, so I assume you haven't gotten any of my emails. I wanted to be sure you didn't think I was ignoring you!! Part of the fun of genealogy for me is helping people with their lines, and sharing my research results with others. You wrote to me asking about the difference in the two DNA testing projects going on for the surname of James. The one you joined is primarily for people who believe they descend from the same James line as the outlaws Frank & Jesse James. The results are private; they can only be viewed by members. The other project, through FamilyTreeDNA, is public and can be viewed by anyone. It is for any and all James lines. You are welcome to compare the results of your brother's test with the results on the FamilyTreeDNA public site. If you find a match, you can contact that person (I think everyone has their email address posted). Please BE AWARE that the testing company you used lists the "marker numbers" in a different order than FamilyTreeDNA does! So if you want to compare them, first rearrange them!!! Good luck! Let me know if I can answer any more questions for you. Susan

Hi James List: I just had to let everyone know that today is a milestone in the James DNA test. We now have 30 men who are participating in the James DNA test. I am just amazed at the support we are receiving from everyone involved with the study of the James name. You are all to be commended!! We have results posted for 21 men on our webpage. http://www.familytreedna.com/public/james/ And the good news is that David James is working on a new webpage that will post the family groups in different colors so that it will be really easy to see the different James families. Each family line then will be posted with that person's number and test results. We have all of the family lines up on the present webpage, but they are in numerical order instead of being in order by family. So this is going to be super great. There are six new tests that are out and have not been returned and there are three tests that we are waiting for their results. So that counts up to 30 James DNA tests!! If there are any of you out there who have not joined the James DNA test, then you can help make November 2005 the best month yet!! Gwen Boyer Bjorkman gwenbj@seanet.com

I just want to stress to everyone how valuable these DNA tests are--not just for JAMES, but all surnames. Even with solid research, mistakes can be made, and you may think your research is correct, but as we see here in these two recent surprising test results, our research can be less than perfect!! It is especially difficult for the JAMES families of PA--many of them lived close to each other, had similar first names, came from the same country, and went to the same church. Yet, they are not all related to each other, as these DNA results are now proving. It's easy to think one man is your ancestor, when in fact it's the other man, with the same name, living nearby, who is your real ancestor. I again would like to encourage everyone to participate in these DNA projects. If you're thinking you don't want to spend the money-- just remember how much you may have already spent putting together the line in the first place--wouldn't you like the peace of mind knowing you have your line correct? Or even to know that it's incorrect--before you take that big trip back to where your "ancestors" (who aren't really your ancestors) came from? Just some food for thought. Susan --- Original Message --- From: "Gwen Boyer Bjorkman" <gwenbj@seanet.com> To: JAMES-L@rootsweb.com Subject: RE: New DNA Test Results Posted for a Group Member in Group James >The long awaited 12 marker results for David Alan James are here!! He is a two marker mutation from >John Stewart James and because of those two mutations being on the fast moving markers, he is >considered a genetic distance of just one. He is no match at all for the David James of Chester Co, >PA group so there must be something wrong in your family line. I think David is going to need the >25 marker test to see if you really do have a match with John Stewart James. I know that this is >not very good news when you were expecting a match with the David James group, but we are getting >lots of surprises in the James DNA test! > >43728 John Stewart James R1b 13 24 14 11 11 14 12 12 11 13 13 29 15 9 10 11 11 24 14 19 28 16 16 17 >18 >David Alan James R1b 13 24 14 11 11 14 12 12 11 14 13 30 > >DAVID ALAN JAMES #42410 >E-mail: David James djshowme@aol.com >Joseph B. James, Sr. 1908 Cumberland Co., PA - 1984 Cumberland Co., PA/Ruth Troutman >Charles H. James 1866 York Co., PA - 1952 York Co., PA/Bertha Moyer >William James 1836 York Co., PA - 1906 York Co., PA/Catharine Malehorn >Isaac James 1813 York Co., PA - 1885 York Co., PA/Lena Knaub >Absalom James ca.1782 Chester Co., PA - 1824 York Co., PA/Sabilla Hehl >Owen James 1760 Chester Co., PA - 1814 York Co., PA/Jane Branden >David James ca.1740 Chester Co., PA - ca. 1805 York Co., PA/Elizabeth >Isaac James ca. 1708 Chester Co., PA - 1790 Chester Co., PA/Sarah >David James 1669 probably Wales - 1739 Chester Co., PA/Unknown >David Alan James R1b 13 24 14 11 11 14 12 12 11 14 13 30 > >Gwen Boyer Bjorkman >gwenbj@seanet.com > >-----Original Message----- >From: info@familytreedna.com [mailto:info@familytreedna.com] >Sent: Thursday, October 27, 2005 7:28 PM >To: djames@nsmt.org; gwenbj@seanet.com >Subject: New DNA Test Results Posted for a Group Member in Group James > > >New Y-DNA1-12 Markers DNA test results have been posted for Kit# 42410, a >member of your Family Tree DNA James Project. > >Family Tree DNA Notifications Center >http://www.FamilyTreeDNA.com >"History Unearthed Daily" > > >Family Tree DNA

After that astounding news about the DNA test of 42410 David Alan James last week and the fact that he does not match the David James of Chester Co, PA group we have had the question come up about his one marker mutation with 43728 John Stewart James when it looks like they have two markers that are different. It's those fast moving markers that they only count as one mutation. The answer to the question is on this page. http://www.familytreedna.com/ftGroupQIGuide.html#score It is question 7. 7. How do I score DYS 389 1 & 2. It seems that these 2 markers are 13, 29 and 14, 30 but your Genetic Distance Report only shows these two people as being 1 point away. There are a lot of questions answered by FTDNA on this webpage. Gwen Boyer Bjorkman gwenbj@seanet.com

Here are the first 12 markers of the 37 markers ordered for Thomas Malcolm James. He does not match anyone yet in the James DNA group. He belongs to the I Haplogroup which leads back to the Vikings and he is in that group with Charles James, but not close enough for a match. You are only allowed one mutation in the 12 marker test and two mutations in the 25 marker test. They have two mutations in the 12 markers so if they should match in the next 13 that would give them a 2 marker mutation match. Charles does not have the 25 markers ordered, but it would be a good idea because there seem to be few matches in the I Haplogroup. It is possible that they could be a match, however their lines that they have traced are not related. 44611 Thomas James I 13 22 14 10 13 14 11 14 11 12 11 28 30109 Charles James I 13 23 14 10 13 14 11 14 12 12 11 28 THOMAS MALCOLM JAMES #44611 E-mail: Thomas James tj48@comcast.net Thomas Malcolm James, 1877 Shawnee Co. KS-1958 Multnomah Co. OR/Bertha Smith Thomas Malcolm James, 1839 Erie Co. Ohio-1918 Shawnee Co. KS/Laura Wendell Thomas Malcolm James, 1805 Kiltrisk Parish Wexford Ireland-1887 Erie Co. OH/Francis Hill Thomas Malcolm James, ~1770 Ireland-1830 Erie Co. OH/Jane Taylor 44611 Thomas James I 13 22 14 10 13 14 11 14 11 12 11 28 CHARLES JAMES #30109 E:mail: Boice Burns burnsba@earthlink.net Robert Franklin James 1881 Johnson Co, IL-1952 Little Rock, AR/Mamie Alice Green James Edwin James 1845 Southampton Co? VA-1885 Johnson Co, IL/Eliza Drucillas Marberry 30109 Charles James I 13 23 14 10 13 14 11 14 12 12 11 28 Gwen Boyer Bjorkman gwenbj@seanet.com -----Original Message----- From: info@familytreedna.com [mailto:info@familytreedna.com] Sent: Friday, October 28, 2005 4:11 PM To: djames@nsmt.org; gwenbj@seanet.com Subject: New DNA Test Results Posted for a Group Member in Group James New Y-DNA1-12 Markers DNA test results have been posted for Kit# 44611, a member of your Family Tree DNA James Project. Family Tree DNA Notifications Center http://www.FamilyTreeDNA.com "History Unearthed Daily" Family Tree DNA

The long awaited 12 marker results for David Alan James are here!! He is a two marker mutation from John Stewart James and because of those two mutations being on the fast moving markers, he is considered a genetic distance of just one. He is no match at all for the David James of Chester Co, PA group so there must be something wrong in your family line. I think David is going to need the 25 marker test to see if you really do have a match with John Stewart James. I know that this is not very good news when you were expecting a match with the David James group, but we are getting lots of surprises in the James DNA test! 43728 John Stewart James R1b 13 24 14 11 11 14 12 12 11 13 13 29 15 9 10 11 11 24 14 19 28 16 16 17 18 David Alan James R1b 13 24 14 11 11 14 12 12 11 14 13 30 DAVID ALAN JAMES #42410 E-mail: David James djshowme@aol.com Joseph B. James, Sr. 1908 Cumberland Co., PA - 1984 Cumberland Co., PA/Ruth Troutman Charles H. James 1866 York Co., PA - 1952 York Co., PA/Bertha Moyer William James 1836 York Co., PA - 1906 York Co., PA/Catharine Malehorn Isaac James 1813 York Co., PA - 1885 York Co., PA/Lena Knaub Absalom James ca.1782 Chester Co., PA - 1824 York Co., PA/Sabilla Hehl Owen James 1760 Chester Co., PA - 1814 York Co., PA/Jane Branden David James ca.1740 Chester Co., PA - ca. 1805 York Co., PA/Elizabeth Isaac James ca. 1708 Chester Co., PA - 1790 Chester Co., PA/Sarah David James 1669 probably Wales - 1739 Chester Co., PA/Unknown David Alan James R1b 13 24 14 11 11 14 12 12 11 14 13 30 Gwen Boyer Bjorkman gwenbj@seanet.com -----Original Message----- From: info@familytreedna.com [mailto:info@familytreedna.com] Sent: Thursday, October 27, 2005 7:28 PM To: djames@nsmt.org; gwenbj@seanet.com Subject: New DNA Test Results Posted for a Group Member in Group James New Y-DNA1-12 Markers DNA test results have been posted for Kit# 42410, a member of your Family Tree DNA James Project. Family Tree DNA Notifications Center http://www.FamilyTreeDNA.com "History Unearthed Daily" Family Tree DNA

Does any one have this lady in their data base? She married a James in abt 1795 maybe in Mississippi. They had children: John, Sally Thomas and Albert. She later married Benjamin Chitty. Would love to know what James she married brick wall a long time. Thanks for any help on her or her children. I am related through the Chitty line. Pat

Well just when we lost someone we thought for sure was our distant cousin (John), we found a new one! I'm so glad that Joe M. James' 25 marker test came back so quickly, and was a perfect match to my father Warren James! He also perfectly matches Lee James on the 1st 12, and there is no doubt in my mind the rest of Lee's markers will match when they come in. What is interesting is that there is a one marker mutation in Gene James' line. We were all wondering which line has the mutation, and now it seems certain it's Gene's. I have been working hard to try and figure out how Joe's line links back to David James 1669-1739. I have a theory that I'm working on, and I'm hoping Scott (Joe's nephew) and I can get it proven. I love this DNA testing!!! After who knows how many hours (and dollars) I've spent researching this particular line, it is so wonderful to see it proven scientifically that my research was correct. Susan --- Original Message --- From: "Gwen Boyer Bjorkman" <gwenbj@seanet.com> To: JAMES-L@rootsweb.com Subject: RE: New DNA Test Results Posted for a Group Member in Group James >And here are the 25 marker results for Joe M. James who is now a perfect 25 marker match with Warren >James of the David James of Chester Co, PA line and he did not even know that was his line! These >are great results and we hope that Scott Williams can work on getting Elias James of NC back to >David James of Chester Co, PA. Lee Allyn James should have his 25 markers by early December and we >hope that he is still a match for this family group. > >David James of Chester Co, PA Group >35874 Warren James R1b 13 25 14 10 11 15 12 12 12 14 13 30 17 9 10 11 11 25 15 19 29 15 15 >16 17 >37879 Wilbur Gene James R1b 13 25 14 10 11 15 12 12 12 14 13 31 17 9 10 11 11 25 15 19 29 15 15 16 >17 >40303 Joe M. James R1b 13 25 14 10 11 15 12 12 12 14 13 30 17 9 10 11 11 25 15 19 29 15 15 >16 17 >39245 Lee Allyn James R1b 13 25 14 10 11 15 12 12 12 14 13 30 > >JOE M. JAMES #40303 >E-mail: Scott K. Williams showmemule@earthlink.net >Joe Clark James 1896 Franklin Co, AL-1985 Memphis, TN >Alfred Clark James 1870 Franklin Co, AL-1937 Lee Co, MS/Cammie Rachaeline George >Elias James 1836 Franklin Co, AL-1917 Franklin Co, AL/Cynthia McGary Richardson >Thomas A. James abt. 1803 GA or TN-1850 Franklin Co, AL/Mary Polly Bonds >Elias James, 1770-1780 (Wilmington District NC ?)- 1840-1850 Franklin Co, AL >40303 Joe M. James R1b 13 25 14 10 11 15 12 12 12 14 13 30 17 9 10 11 11 25 15 19 29 15 15 16 17 > >Gwen Boyer Bjorkman >gwenbj@seanet.com