My line is close to Susan's - my maternal grandmother - Lottie E. James Lukens her parents - Charles R.James and Tabitha S. Morton his parents - Joshua P. James and Sarah Ann Rogers his parents - Evan James and Rebecca Pickering his parents - Samuel James and Hannah Smith his parents - Evan James and ???? his parent - David James Any further information appreciated Dorcas
In a previous posting, Gwen noted "I am just amazed at how many separate families of James there are". Per an email I have from David James, he stated that early in his research he came across a book, "James Families in America," by Wynn James, III. It stated that there are over 120 unrelated James families in North America!! The DNA Project has identified 21 unrelated JAMES clans so far, or about 20% of Wynn James' figure. David said, "I expect it'll take us a few more years to identify most of the different James lineages. As we do, this project will become more and more useful to James family researchers, and established lineages will emerge, making it a lot easier for future family genealogists to tie into the right line!" Although not quite as bad as SMITH or JONES, I bet there may be way more than 120 JAMES lines in the United States.
My brick wall is not far back at all. I'm only sure who my Great-GrandFather was: James Edwin James....no further back than that. Judging from what few census records he is listed on, he was born ca1845. He fought in the Civil War in the Confederate Army. There were Jameses in Southampton County, Va whom he referred to (in what few letters he wrote and we have seen)as his "brothers". However, I have found this VA family in the census back to 1850 and he is not listed with them. Also he did not inherit from the estate of the father of the other Jameses. We located descendants of that VA family(still living there on the same farm in Southampton County, VA)back in the 1950's but nobody remembers him specifically. However, my GGF left VA and went to southern Illinois after the Civil War and one cousin there in Southampton County, VA knew about a James relative "out in Illinois" although he did not know who it was. We have a copy of an old letter that one of the VA "broth! ers" wrote to my great-grand-mother in Illinois after my GGF died. The letter referred to my Great grandmother as "Dear Sister". If you say this is confusing, join the club. The James kin of ours who live in VA today have a distinct physical resemblance to my Jameses, so there has to be a close link somewhere. They were unique in their appearance because they have an olive complexion, brown eyes, small stature and thick,course black hair. I have old photos of my grandfather and he looked like one of the characters from a movie about the mafia. Quite an interesting guy to have for a grandfather. Is there anyone who has info about James in Southampton County, VA or maybe in the northeast corner of North Carolina.....O or how about Maryland? Boice Burns 14019 East Cypress Forest Dr Houston, TX 281-894-4064
If anyone is interested in a Roll Call, I'll start. My earliest known JAMES is David James. He was born about 1669 in Wales, and died in 1739 in Chester county, PA; buried at the Great Valley Baptist Church. First wife unknown, second wife Jane--Jane almost certainly NOT the mother of David's children. His children were: Evan m. Margaret Jones Thomas m. Mary Jones, Sarah Henderson Isaac Sarah m. Jenkin Thomas Rebecca m. John Miles I would like more information on David's children, especially Isaac, Sarah, and Rebecca. I would also like to know if there is any connection for this David JAMES to another David JAMES who came to Chester co, PA in 1682, and died before 1702. He was a Quaker, and had a wife Margaret and daughter Mary. Some have said they are actually one and the same man, but since they died in different years this cannot be so. Thanks, Susan
I am also looking for a James family from Maryland. My earliest known ancestor was Elias James born about 1802 in MD, died 1864 in Iowa. He married Mary Horsey and had 7 children. Ann James born about 1825 in unknown Elias James, Jr. born about 1827 in Ohio Isaac James born 1832 on Ohio William James born about 1834 in Ohio George O. James born about1836 in Ohio Outerbridge James born 1838 in Ohio John C. James born 1847 in Iowa I am looking for any information on parents or siblings of Elias James also any extra info on Elias' and Mary's children. Thanks. Louise
Does anyone out there have a William James b. app. 1765 d. in Jefferson Co.,KY 1834; he appears to be in Jefferson Co., KY by 1810 Census. He was born in MD. His chn. were born in MD. Chn: William Bailey 1790 m. 1815 Eliza Smallwood; Nancy 1798 m. 1809 Bartholomew Ellingsworth; Priscilla 1800 d. before father's will dated 1833, m. 1818 William Smith; Isaac 1803 d. before father's will dated in 1833 m. 1812 Elizabeth Ellingsworth(Bartolomew's sister); Any help would be appreciated. William's wife is unknow. sarah jane sarahmck@bellsouth.net
We have the new 12 marker results back for William James sponsored by Patsy James Paterson. FTDNA is saying that he has no matches, but when you look at Richard Dale and Doyle Roland you see that they have a mutation on the 11th marker. Now because this is a genetic distance of 2 on this marker they count it as no match! I am not sure about that. You really need the 25 marker test on all of these R1b Haplogroup men. It does seem interesting that they are so close. Here is the explanation from FTDNA. When comparing peoples samples in our system we show individuals who are closely matched, but not identically matched, as being different by what the Anthropologists call genetic distance. If two people were identical in all markers except they are off in one marker by 1 point, the genetic distance would be 1. If they were off at 2 different markers by 1 point in each marker, then the genetic distance of those two samples would be 2. If they were off by 2 points at one marker and 1 point in a second marker, then the genetic distance would be 3. This is called the Stepwise Model of calculating genetic distance for shallow time depths. (i.e. Genealogy not Anthropology) WILLIAM JAMES #46312 E-mail: Patsy James Paterson 2pats2cats@comcast.net Harmon Franklin James 1867 Rutherford Co, TN-1942 Rutherford Co, TN/Louetta Margaret McCrary John W. James 1832 Rutherford Co, TN/Mary Jane Vaught Harmon James abt 1799 NC-1884 Rutherford Co, TN/Hannah 46312 William James R1b 13 24 14 11 11 14 12 12 12 13 15 29 42754 Richard Dale James R1b 13 24 14 11 11 14 12 12 12 13 13 29 16 9 9 11 11 25 15 19 30 15 15 15 17 25727 Doyle Roland James R1b 13 24 14 11 11 14 12 12 12 13 13 29 16 9 9 11 11 25 15 19 31 15 15 17 17 10 11 19 23 16 16 19 17 37 40 11 12 46312 William James R1b 13 24 14 11 11 14 12 12 12 13 15 29 Gwen Boyer Bjorkman gwenbj@seanet.com -----Original Message----- From: info@familytreedna.com [mailto:info@familytreedna.com] Sent: Friday, December 09, 2005 1:20 PM To: jamesdm49@aol.com; gwenbj@seanet.com Subject: New DNA Test Results Posted for a Group Member in Group James New Y-DNA1-12 Markers DNA test results have been posted for Kit# 46312, a member of your Family Tree DNA James Project. Please remind your group member to upload his results at www.Ysearch.org, the FTDNA sponsored public database. He will find the upload link at his Y-DNA Matches tab, where there is an explanation and a link for the upload. Family Tree DNA Notifications Center http://www.FamilyTreeDNA.com "History Unearthed Daily" Family Tree DNA
Just in case anyone is interested--there are several other Rootsweb Lists for the surname JAMES. One is for James families of Pennsylvania, another for those interested in Jesse James, and another for UK James families. Susan
Hi James Group: We have new 12 marker results today for Robert Elwood James. David Mitchell James had a couple of his relatives tested in order to see if they would be perfect matches and so far Robert James is a perfect 12 marker match with David. David has ordered the 37 marker test so we can see if there has been any mutation. ROBERT ELWOOD JAMES #46257 E:mail: David Mitchell James jamesdm49@aol.com Merton Josiah James 1882 Washington Co, ME-1950 Washington Co, ME/Georgia Dodge Josiah Eaton James 1845 Washington Co, ME-1920 Washington Co, ME/Mary Glidden Benjamin James 1805 Carroll Co, NH-1873 Washington Co, ME/Sarah Glidden Ezekiel James 1770 Strafford Co, NH-1832 Carroll, NH/Susannah Head Benjamin James 1744 Rockingham Co, NH-1822 Strafford Co, NH/ Dorothy Morrill John James 1718/19 Rockingham, NH-1761 Rockingham Co, NH/Mercy Batchelder Benjamin James 1673 Essex Co, MA-1747 Rockingham Co, NH/Susanna Smith Edmund James ??-d. 1672/3? Newbury, Essex Co, MA/Mary Mitchell 46257 Robert James R1b 13 24 14 11 11 13 12 12 13 13 13 29 Gwen Boyer Bjorkman gwenbj@seanet.com -----Original Message----- From: info@familytreedna.com [mailto:info@familytreedna.com] Sent: Wednesday, December 07, 2005 6:12 AM To: jamesdm49@aol.com; gwenbj@seanet.com Subject: New DNA Test Results Posted for a Group Member in Group James New Y-DNA1-12 Markers DNA test results have been posted for Kit# 46257, a member of your Family Tree DNA James Project. Please remind your group member to upload his results at www.Ysearch.org, the FTDNA sponsored public database. He will find the upload link at his Y-DNA Matches tab, where there is an explanation and a link for the upload. Family Tree DNA Notifications Center http://www.FamilyTreeDNA.com "History Unearthed Daily" Family Tree DNA
Hi James Group: Richard Dale James received his 25 marker DNA test results this evening and he and Doyle James maintained their match with a genetic distance of two markers. This means according to FTDNA that there is a 49.03% chance that they have a common ancestors in the last 300 years, a 67.45% chance in the last 400 years, 80.43% chance in 500 years and 88.74% in 600 years. You can check the James DNA website to see the family lines of everyone entered into the James DNA test. We hope there will be more of you that will enter the James DNA test. We have four new tests that are now at the testing Lab at the University of Arizona and another test was returned to the FTDNA today and will go to the Lab on Friday. http://www.jamesdna.net 42754 Richard Dale James R1b 13 24 14 11 11 14 12 12 12 13 13 29 16 9 9 11 11 25 15 19 30 15 15 15 17 25727 Doyle Roland James R1b 13 24 14 11 11 14 12 12 12 13 13 29 16 9 9 11 11 25 15 19 31 15 15 17 17 10 11 19 23 16 16 19 17 37 40 11 12 Gwen Boyer Bjorkman gwenbj@seanet.com -----Original Message----- From: info@familytreedna.com [mailto:info@familytreedna.com] Sent: Tuesday, December 06, 2005 4:00 PM To: jamesdm49@aol.com; gwenbj@seanet.com Subject: New DNA Test Results Posted for a Group Member in Group James New Y-DNA13-25 results have been posted for Kit 42754, a member of your James group. Please remind your Group member to add his results at www.Ysearch.org, the FTDNA sponsored public database. When going to the Y-DNA Matches tab at his personal page, he will see an explanation and a link for the upload. Family Tree DNA
Here it is!! Those 12 marker results that were due on Dec. 23rd! Troy is going to be so happy that they came early. Now the bad news is that Troy has 52 matches with other names, but no matches with anyone in our James DNA test. So he will be starting another new James line. I am just amazed at how many separate families of James there are. Here is Troy's family and his results. TROY STEPHEN JAMES #45580 E-mail: Troy James tiago1@sbcglobal.net E-mail: Linda Thank lthank@turboisp.com Jesse Frank JAMES 1892 Garvin Co. IT (OK)-1976 Oklahoma Co. OK/Della SEWELL Charles Lewis JAMES 1852 Botetourt Co, VA-1942 Murray Co. OK/Katherine (Kate) Brown SEARCY Robert JAMES 1824 Botetourt Co,VA-1866 Botetourt Co,VA/Malinda BROWN John JAMES 1780/1785 MD or PA-aft 1839 Rockbridge Co. VA/Lavinia SMITH 45580 Troy James R1b 13 23 14 11 11 14 12 12 13 13 13 29 His closest James match is with this group, but he has two mutations and you are only allowed one in the 12 marker test. If he has the 25 marker test and matches perfectly in the next 13 markers then they would be considered a match, since two mutations are allowed in the 25 marker test. 45580 Troy Stephen James R1b 13 23 14 11 11 14 12 12 13 13 13 29 43289 Ronald Scott James R1b 13 23 14 12 11 14 12 12 12 13 13 29 37704 Fred L. James R1b 13 23 14 12 11 14 12 12 11 13 13 29 18 9 10 11 11 23 15 19 29 15 15 18 18 10 10 19 23 15 15 17 16 36 39 12 12 Gwen Boyer Bjorkman gwenbj@seanet.com -----Original Message----- From: info@familytreedna.com [mailto:info@familytreedna.com] Sent: Friday, December 02, 2005 8:21 AM To: djames@nsmt.org; gwenbj@seanet.com Subject: New DNA Test Results Posted for a Group Member in Group James New Y-DNA1-12 Markers DNA test results have been posted for Kit# 45580, a member of your Family Tree DNA James Project. Please remind your group member to upload his results at www.Ysearch.org, the FTDNA sponsored public database. He will find the upload link at his Y-DNA Matches tab, where there is an explanation and a link for the upload. Family Tree DNA Notifications Center http://www.FamilyTreeDNA.com "History Unearthed Daily" Family Tree DNA
Hi James Group: The latest James DNA tests have now been sent to the Lab and we have some dates for when the results can be expected. It look like that since I last checked there has been a Batch 128 with Tommy Harper James 13-37 markers and Doyle Curtis James 12 marker test. They are due back early in January. Then Batch 129 must have just gone to the Lab today with Charles Roy James 25 marker test now due back on Jan 13 and Jan 27. We should have the 25 markers back for Richard Dale James by Dec. 8. Some of the tests have been coming back early. Kit Product Lab Test Name Batch Est. Result Date Comment 39245 mtDNA HVR1 Lee Allyn James 128 01/09/2006 42754 Y-Refine12to25 Y-DNA13-25 Markers Richard Dale James 123 12/08/2005 44808 Y-HAP-R1b P25 Tommy Harper James 127 01/02/2006 44808 Y-Refine12to37 Y-DNA13-25 Markers Tommy Harper James 128 01/11/2006 44808 Y-Refine12to37 Y-DNA26-37 Markers Tommy Harper James 128 01/11/2006 44840 Y-DNA25 Y-DNA13-25 Markers Thomas Dwain James 124 12/23/2005 45454 mtDNA HVR1 Frances Ann Lefevre 125 12/28/2005 45580 Y-DNA12 Y-DNA1-12 Markers Troy Stephen James 126 12/23/2005 45668 Y-DNA25 Y-DNA13-25 Markers Charles Roy James 129 01/27/2006 45668 Y-DNA25 Y-DNA1-12 Markers Charles Roy James 129 01/13/2006 46257 Y-DNA37 Y-DNA13-25 Markers Robert Elwood James 127 01/13/2006 46257 Y-DNA37 Y-DNA26-37 Markers Robert Elwood James 127 01/13/2006 46257 Y-DNA37 Y-DNA1-12 Markers Robert Elwood James 127 12/30/2005 46312 Y-DNA12 Y-DNA1-12 Markers William James 127 12/30/2005 46839 Y-Refine12to25 Y-DNA13-25 Markers Doyle Curtis James 128 01/20/2006 46839 Y-DNA12 Y-DNA1-12 Markers Doyle Curtis James 128 01/06/2006 Gwen Boyer Bjorkman gwenbj@seanet.com
Have a happy and safe Thanksgiving. This was just too good not to share with all my cousins as we search .......this came from another list I am on.. The "Census Taker" It was the first day of census, and all through the land; The pollster was ready ........ a black book in hand. He mounted his horse for a long dusty ride; His book and some quills were tucked close by his side. A long winding ride down a road barely there; Toward the smell of fresh bread wafting up through the air. The woman was tired, with lines on her face; And wisps of brown hair she tucked back into place. She gave him some water ..... as they sat at the table; And she answered his questions ..... the best she was able. He asked of her children ..... Yes, she had quite a few; The oldest was twenty, the youngest not quite two. She held up a toddler with cheeks round and red; his sister, she whispered, was napping in bed. She noted each person who lived there with pride; And she felt the faint stirrings of the wee one inside. He noted the sex, the colour, the age .. The marks from the quill soon filled up the page. At the number of children, she nodded her head; And saw her lips quiver for the three that were dead. The places of birth she "never forgot"; Was it Kansas? or Utah? Or Oregon ..... or not? They came from Scotland, of that she was clear; But she wasn't quite sure just how long they'd been here. They spoke of employment, of schooling and such; They could read some and write some ..... though really not much. When the questions were answered, his job there was done; So he mounted his horse and he rode toward the sun. We can imagine his voice loud and clear; "May God Bless you all for another ten years." Now picture a time warp ..... it's now you and me; As we search for the people on our family tree. We squint at the census and scroll down so slow; As we search for that entry from long, long ago. Could they only imagine on that long ago day; That the entries they made would effect us this way? If they knew, would they wonder at the yearning we feel; And the searching that makes them so increasingly real. We can hear if we listen the words they impart; Through their blood in our veins and their voices in our heart. Author Unknown Lynda Lynda
Hi James Group: Here are the 12 marker results for Thomas Dwain James. I thought for sure he would match some of our other James families so this is quite a surprise. He does match 25 other men who are not James. His 25 marker results should be back in a week or so, since they are all coming in so early this month. Then we will know if he really does have a match with some other surname. Interesting!! 44840 Thomas Dwain James R1b 13 24 15 11 11 14 12 12 12 14 13 30 THOMAS DWAIN JAMES #44840 E-mail:Lucy DeYoung lucydeyoung@isomedia.com E-mail:Thomas James tjames89@juno.com Solomon James 1873 KY-1952 WV/Elsie Spaulding John James 1842 Lawrence or Martin Co., KY-??/Rhoda Brewer Ephraim James 1819 Floyd Co. KY-abt1865 Lawrence or Martin Co, KY/Sarah Stepp John James 1798 Orange or Surry Co, NC-abt 1840 Lawrence Co, KY/Milly Vaughan Samuel James abt 1774 MA-1836 Floyd Co, KY/Sarah Charles 44840 Thomas Dwain James R1b 13 24 15 11 11 14 12 12 12 14 13 30 Gwen Boyer Bjorkman gwenbj@seanet.com -----Original Message----- From: info@familytreedna.com [mailto:info@familytreedna.com] Sent: Saturday, November 19, 2005 2:39 PM To: djames@nsmt.org; gwenbj@seanet.com Subject: New DNA Test Results Posted for a Group Member in Group James New Y-DNA1-12 Markers DNA test results have been posted for Kit# 44840, a member of your Family Tree DNA James Project. Please remind your group member to upload his results at www.Ysearch.org, the FTDNA sponsored public database. He will find the upload link at his Y-DNA Matches tab, where there is an explanation and a link for the upload. Family Tree DNA Notifications Center http://www.FamilyTreeDNA.com "History Unearthed Daily" Family Tree DNA
Hi June: No we have not had anyone from England join the James DNA test yet, but we are sure hoping that we will. Most of our James lines came over to this country really early and most seem to have a tradition that they are from Wales. I hope that we hear from some of the English James family soon. Gwen Boyer Bjorkman gwenbj@seanet.com -----Original Message----- From: Fred H Held [mailto:fhheld@netzero.net] Sent: Friday, November 18, 2005 6:15 AM To: JAMES-L@rootsweb.com; Gwen Boyer Bjorkman Subject: JAMES Family DNA Gwen, Are you getting any requests from JAMES families in England, specifically the Liverpool area. I have 2 known JAMES family members, both female, so my family DNA is not applicable. One is my grandmother and the other her sister. Both immigrated to North America in c1907, one to Canada and the other to Wilkes-Barre, PA. In 2004 we travelled to Liverpool and tried to find family members with no success. A cousin (since deceased) made a trip there about 20 years ago and contacted the family in Liverpool. The only information of note that he related was that our JAMES family was in management at WALKERS WARRINGTON ALES. June Held
Gwen, Are you getting any requests from JAMES families in England, specifically the Liverpool area. I have 2 known JAMES family members, both female, so my family DNA is not applicable. One is my grandmother and the other her sister. Both immigrated to North America in c1907, one to Canada and the other to Wilkes-Barre, PA. In 2004 we travelled to Liverpool and tried to find family members with no success. A cousin (since deceased) made a trip there about 20 years ago and contacted the family in Liverpool. The only information of note that he related was that our JAMES family was in management at WALKERS WARRINGTON ALES. June Held
Hi James List: The DNA tests have been sent to the Lab at the University of Arizona for this week so we have some new dates to report. We now have a batch 127 with first results due on Dec 30 and Jan. 1. Can you imagine that the New Year is that close!! Gwen Boyer Bjorkman gwenbj@seanet.com 42754 Y-Refine12to25 Y-DNA13-25 Markers Richard Dale James 123 12/8/2005 43728 Y-Refine25to37 Y-DNA26-37 Markers John Stewart James 125 12/21/2005 44808 Y-HAP-R1b P25 Tommy Harper James 127 1/2/2006 44840 Y-DNA25 Y-DNA13-25 Markers Thomas Dwain James 124 12/23/2005 44840 Y-DNA25 Y-DNA1-12 Markers Thomas Dwain James 124 12/9/2005 45454 mtDNA HVR1 Frances Ann Lefevre 125 12/28/2005 45580 Y-DNA12 Y-DNA1-12 Markers Troy Stephen James 126 12/23/2005 46257 Y-DNA37 Y-DNA13-25 Markers Robert Elwood James 127 1/13/2006 46257 Y-DNA37 Y-DNA26-37 Markers Robert Elwood James 127 1/13/2006 46257 Y-DNA37 Y-DNA1-12 Markers Robert Elwood James 127 12/30/2005 46312 Y-DNA12 Y-DNA1-12 Markers William James 127 12/30/2005
If you reside outside of the US or know of any possibly related James or other surname variations living in other countries, please pass on the word that they too can join the James Surname DNA Project. Family Tree DNA is set up to provide the same DNA testing services at project group prices with adjustments for additional shipping costs. Shipping to international countries costs $4 instead of the $2 in the United States with shipping to any country the US Postal service does and they use Federal Express with the charges varying by destination country. This offers a fantastic opportunity to reconnect with our European roots and other branches which have formed in other countries and to apply scientific tests to confirm or deny various theories as to where our roots were prior to the migration to the western hemisphere. FTDNA also now has provision for participants to belong to 2 surname projects at the same time so a person belonging to another group could also belong to the James Surname DNA project as well. See the FTDNA website at: http://www.familytreedna.com Gwen Boyer Bjorkman gwenbj@seanet.com
I have updated the page for descendants of Elias James (b. 1770-1780) that resided in Franklin County, Alabama. This includes old photographs. Some allied surnames include Grissom, Vaughn, George, Britnell, Hester, Malone, Richardson, Bonds, Culligan. A nice photo of C.C. Grissom's place up on Caine Creek near Tuscumbia as well. Also a Pogo community photograph of dozens of people (most unidentified) infront of an old barn. http://www.stlouistimeportal.com/james/ --Scott Williams
Hi James List: The 13-25 DNA results are back tonight for Lee Allyn James and he is a perfect match with the rest of the Chester Co, PA family group. Wilbur Gene James has just the one mutation. So this is definitely our largest group of matched results. You can get on the website and see each one of their family lines. We hope that more people from the Chester Co and Bucks Co PA lines will join the DNA test. http://www.jamesdna.net David James of Chester Co, PA Group 35874 Warren James R1b 13 25 14 10 11 15 12 12 12 14 13 30 17 9 10 11 11 25 15 19 29 15 15 16 17 37879 Wilbur Gene James R1b 13 25 14 10 11 15 12 12 12 14 13 31 17 9 10 11 11 25 15 19 29 15 15 16 17 40303 Joe M. James R1b 13 25 14 10 11 15 12 12 12 14 13 30 17 9 10 11 11 25 15 19 29 15 15 16 17 39245 Lee Allyn James R1b 13 25 14 10 11 15 12 12 12 14 13 30 17 9 10 11 11 25 15 19 29 15 15 16 17 Gwen Boyer Bjorkman gwenbj@seanet.com -----Original Message----- From: info@familytreedna.com [mailto:info@familytreedna.com] Sent: Wednesday, November 16, 2005 1:38 PM To: djames@nsmt.org; gwenbj@seanet.com Subject: New DNA Test Results Posted for a Group Member in Group James New Y-DNA13-25 results have been posted for Kit 39245, a member of your James group. Please remind your Group member to add his results at www.Ysearch.org, the FTDNA sponsored public database. When going to the Y-DNA Matches tab at his personal page, he will see an explanation and a link for the upload. Family Tree DNA