Book Source: History of Franklin, Jefferson, Washington, Crawford & Gasconade Counties, Missouri. Illustrated. [republished in 1958.} Page 910 of Biographical Appendix. T.A. James, M.D., is a son of Dr. L. and Mary (Reynolds) James, and was born in Monroe County, Ill., in 1856. Dr. L. James, who is of French descent, is also a native of Monroe County, Ill., and was born in 1820; he graduated from the St. Louis Medical College, in 1861, and began practice at Waterloo, in his native county, where he resided until about 1873, when he moved to Cruise, Washington Co., Mo., where he is still actively engaged in practice. His wife is also of French descent, and was born in Randolph County, Ill., in 1832. They have five children living, viz.: Tracy, wife of M. A. Casey; Dr. T. A.; Emma, wife of P. S. Coleman; Griffith and Susie. Dr. T. A. James received his literary education at Christian Brother's College, St. Louis, and when twenty years of age began the study of medicine under the preceptorship of his father. In 1878 he entered St. Louis Medical College, from which institute he graduated in march, 1881. He began the practice of his chosen profession at Labaddie. In the spring of 1886 he located in De Soto, where he has since resided, and is one of the leading physicians and surgeons of Jefferson County. October 25, 1881, he married Miss Mary C. Flynn, a daughter of Michael Flynn, of Washington County; she was born in Washington County, in 1857. Mr. and Mrs. James have two children: William A. and Liona. Politically, Dr. James is a Democrat. He is special medical examiner of the Select Knights of the A. O. U. W., and is a member of the Masonic fraternity. He and wife are members of the Roman Catholic church."

John M. JAMES married Mrs. Mary HARRIS with the officiated being W. W. WINGFIELD. Nacogdoches Court Records, marriage date: 8 January 1848. Thomas JAMES is listed as an MG in the old Bond Books A, B and C.......a "Minister of the Gospel" Resource: Marriage records of Nacogdoches County, Texas, 1824-1881 Houston, Tex.: unknown, 1968, 174 pgs. by Pauline Shirley MURRIE.

The story in my James family (which has never been proven or disproven), is that when the English insisted that the Welsh take surnames, the people of the village where my ancestor lived (unfortunately I don't know where that was!!) decided to do just that-- and they all took the last name of JAMES!! Knowing how fond the Welsh were of the English at that time in history (and perhaps still today), this story would not surprise me if it turned out to be true. Susan --- Original Message --- From: "Gwen Boyer Bjorkman" <gwenbj@seanet.com> To: JAMES-L@rootsweb.com Subject: FW: [PaOldC] Welsh patronymic naming >Here is an interesting website on the Welsh Patronymics. I was surprised to read this in the list >of most common Welch names. > >James - an English name which became popular in Wales from the 15th century > >Gwen Boyer Bjorkman >gwenbj@seanet.com > >-----Original Message----- >From: Sandra Ferguson [mailto:ferg@ntelos.net] >Sent: Thursday, July 06, 2006 3:00 PM >To: PA-OLD-CHESTER-L@rootsweb.com >Subject: [PaOldC] Welsh patronymic naming > >This site has some interesting 'twists' on the Welsh patronymic naming, >including a list of the most common Welsh surnames. >S. > > >http://www.amlwchdata.co.uk/welsh_surnames.htm

Resource: book title: Biographical sketches of Vermonters Montpelier: Vermont Historical Society, 1947, 821 pages. page 2_d265 [Volume 2 of the contents] {section by Dorman B. E. Kent of January 1, 1914 titled "One Thousand Men" about men were from Vermont but did not stay in Vermont and who were noted individuals of success in some form or another in the early explorations and other forms of fame} from the List of Prominent Vermonters WEYBRIDGE. August 27, 1797. Edwin James. Geologist, author, editor and surgeon. Translated the Bible into an Indian language. The first botanical explorer of the Rocky Mountains.

Good Morning James List: We have new 12 marker results this morning for Randy Clark James. He is an exact match for Richard Dale, Doyle Roland and Benny Ray James. Randy needs to extend his markers to see if the match will continue. We see here that when Benny extended his test to 37 markers, he no longer matched Doyle. But we do see a relationship here and it needs to be confirmed with some genealogical research. This is certainly a good first 12 marker match for Randy James. Ahijah I. James, 1812 NC - aft. 1880 Gilmer Co., GA 42754 Richard Dale James R1b1 13 24 14 11 11 14 12 12 12 13 13 29 16 9 9 11 11 25 15 19 30 15 15 15 17 25727 Doyle Roland James R1b1 13 24 14 11 11 14 12 12 12 13 13 29 16 9 9 11 11 25 15 19 31 15 15 17 17 10 11 19 23 16 16 19 17 37 40 11 12 11 9 15 16 8 10 11 8 10 10 12 21 21 16 10 12 12 14 8 11 24 20 14 12 11 13 10 11 12 12 54616 Benny Ray James R1b1 13 24 14 11 11 14 12 12 12 13 13 29 17 9 10 11 11 25 15 19 29 14 15 15 17 11 11 19 23 16 15 18 16 37 38 13 12 RANDY CLARK JAMES #63035 E-mail: Muriel muriel@pstbbs.com E:mail: Randy Clark James rtjames@gotvc.net Warren James 1903 Columbia Co, WA-1977 Columbia Co, WA/ Lela Houston Henry Benton James 1869 Linn Co, OR-1941 Columbia Co, WA/Rachel Bolton Andrew Jackson James 1834 Lafayette Co, MO-1906 Columbia Co, WA/Sarah Curl Berry James 1812 Powells Valley, Claiborne Co, TN-1885 Columbia Co, WA/Piety Rose David James 1760-1770-1840-1850 Johnson Co, MO/Mary (Polly) 63035 Randy Clark James R1b1 13 24 14 11 11 14 12 12 12 13 13 29 David James will have our James DNA webpage updated soon. http://www.jamesdna.net Gwen Boyer Bjorkman gwenbj@seanet.com -----Original Message----- From: info@familytreedna.com [mailto:info@familytreedna.com] Sent: Saturday, July 08, 2006 4:07 AM To: jamesdm49@aol.com; gwenbj@seanet.com Subject: New DNA Test Results Posted for a Group Member in Group James New Y-DNA1-12 Markers DNA test results have been posted for Kit# 63035, a member of your Family Tree DNA James Project. Please remind your group member to upload his results at www.Ysearch.org, the FTDNA sponsored public database. He will find the upload link at his Y-DNA Matches tab, where there is an explanation and a link for the upload. Family Tree DNA Notifications Center http://www.FamilyTreeDNA.com "History Unearthed Daily" Family Tree DNA

Here is an interesting website on the Welsh Patronymics. I was surprised to read this in the list of most common Welch names. James - an English name which became popular in Wales from the 15th century Gwen Boyer Bjorkman gwenbj@seanet.com -----Original Message----- From: Sandra Ferguson [mailto:ferg@ntelos.net] Sent: Thursday, July 06, 2006 3:00 PM To: PA-OLD-CHESTER-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [PaOldC] Welsh patronymic naming This site has some interesting 'twists' on the Welsh patronymic naming, including a list of the most common Welsh surnames. S. http://www.amlwchdata.co.uk/welsh_surnames.htm

Hi James List: After long last we have received the full 25 markers for James Francis James! We thought for sure this Abner James from Lancaster Co, PA would match some of the others Chester Co or Bucks Co James, but no, he is a totally unique branch of the James family. I know we are all beginning to realize just how many men took the name James for a surname. We were just talking about the Welch naming patterns on the Chester Co, PA List, using the Patronyms where you would have James ap James, which means James the son of James. So there would have been many men who would have decided on James for their surname, but they would not be related to very many other men who also took the same name. We will look forward to finding some matches for James in the future. We hope that many more men will sign on for the James DNA test. We now have 60 members in our group. See our webpage at: http://www.jamesdna.net JAMES FRANCIS JAMES #61620 E-mail: James James jfjames@ftc-i.net George Mifton James 1848 Alamance Co, NC-1939Alamance Co, NC/ Simeon James ca 1807 NC-1893 Alamance Co, NC/Katharine Boon 1837 Orange Co, NC Abner James 1763 Lancaster Co, PA-bef 1850 NC/Priscilla 61620 James Francis James R1b1 13 23 14 11 11 11 12 12 11 13 13 28 17 9 10 11 11 26 15 20 28 15 16 18 18 Gwen Boyer Bjorkman gwenbj@seanet.com -----Original Message----- From: info@familytreedna.com [mailto:info@familytreedna.com] Sent: Thursday, July 06, 2006 1:56 PM To: jamesdm49@aol.com; gwenbj@seanet.com Subject: New DNA Test Results Posted for a Group Member in Group James New Y-DNA13-25 results have been posted for Kit 61620, a member of your James group. Please remind your Group member to add his results at www.Ysearch.org, the FTDNA sponsored public database. When going to the Y-DNA Matches tab at his personal page, he will see an explanation and a link for the upload. Family Tree DNA

Looking for anyone who has a "Jimma"/"Jimmy"/ James JAMES who had a wife named Phebe enumerated as Phebe", "Feba" who was about 7 years younger. She was "French Canadian" but could also be of English parentage but from Canada West. Setting in Iowa, Kossuth County and/or township area of "Kossuth" including place name of Wisley/Wesley circa 1875 or 1880's until James died and/or disappears. Other surnames involved in this research of this family are DONALDSON, KENDALL, and STOLL or STOWELL. Places of all families origins seem to be the Great Lakes areas and the easy access of border crossings from the Canadian Provinces. Family exchanges of residences in the north eastern and mid-border areas of Michigan, Minnesota and Wisconsin and down to Kossuth County in Iowa. From Iowa the family seemed to move to Fillmore County, Winneshiek County, and Ramsey County, in Minnesota. 20th Century male line: Glen W. JAMES born in Wisconsin. Phebe DONALDSON married James JAMES. Had sons Herbert, Richard, George, and Russell. As far as I have found to date, only Herbert married. Richard died single in Minnesota and the mother died there also. Would like to hear from anyone who might have some ideas on these people. Regards and Thank You, Linda

Thanks Linda, for posting those Tennessee marriage records. We believe that those two marriages in Carter Co. TN are children of Rollings James who has a great Rev War pension record telling that he was born in Maryland. We would love to see someone from this family join the James DNA test. I rather suspect that two of our participants may be either from the family of Rollings James or Joseph Rogers James as they were both together in Burke Co, NC when they joined the army. Here is the family that I have constructed for Rollings James, but I am sure it is not complete. Any help on this family would be appreciated. 1. Rollings1 JAMES, was born in MD ca 1762. He died ca 1840 in Campbell, TN. He married Ellen BOWLES? ca 1782. She was born ca 1762. Rollings JAMES and Ellen BOWLES? had the following children: 2 i. Frances2 JAMES was born in VA ca 1783. She died ca 1863 in Twin Twp, Darke, OH. She married Richard BALLARD ca 1800 in Burke, NC. He was born ca 1781 in VA. He died ca 1848 in Darke, OH. 3 ii. Rachel JAMES was born ca 1788. She married Walter EVANS 21 Nov 1808 in Carter, TN. He was born ca 1788. 4 iii. William JAMES was born bef 1792. He married Nancy PIERCE or PRICE 1812 in Carter, TN. She was born bef 1792. 5 iv. John JAMES was born bef 1792. He married Mary CAMPBELL 7 Mar 1812 in Carter, TN. She was born bef 1792. Gwen Boyer Bjorkman gwenbj@seanet.com -----Original Message----- From: lthank [mailto:lthank@turboisp.com] Sent: Monday, June 26, 2006 5:10 PM To: JAMES-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [JAMES-L] surname JAMES, Tennessee marriages to 1825 6/26/2006 Some Tennessee Marriages to 1825: Resource: ancestry.com database. Blount County Burns, William James, Patty 12 Mar 1817 Tennessee James, Elijah Tucker, Malinda 16 Jan 1820 Tennessee James, Ann Tucker, William 06 Feb 1820 Tennessee Carter County: Evens, Walter James, Rachel 21 Nov 1808 Tennessee Campbell, Mary James, John 07 Mar 1812 Tennessee Davidson County: Duke, Elizabeth James, Thomas 15 Apr 1797 Tennessee James, Wm. Walker, Elizabeth 24 Mar 1800 Tennessee James, Amos Mcallister, June 20 Oct 1803 Tennessee Inman, Pricilla James, Thomas 09 Jul 1804 Tennessee Ballentine, David James, Margaret 22 Sep 1810 Tennessee James, Rhoda Minton, William H. 04 Jul 1816 Tennessee Farmer, Catherine James, Smith 19 Jan 1819 Tennessee James, Patsy Wells, Hiram 31 Jan 1822 Tennessee James, Ann Shall, Jacob 08 Dec 1823 Tennessee Goodrich, Mariah C James, Lyman 17 Mar 1825 Tennessee Grainger County: James, Laban Mcbride, Rebcah 28 Jul 1800 Tennessee James, William Jr. Morris, Elizabeth 16 Oct 1802 Tennessee James, Delany Simmons, Joshua 13 Mar 1803 Tennessee Drake, Charles James, Clarisa 20 Oct 1804 Tennessee Crouse, Mary James, William 14 May 1805 Tennessee Burnett, Richard James, Polly 01 Jul 1809 Tennessee Bolton, Thomas James, Elizabeth 16 Sep 1809 Tennessee James, Barbara Willson, Amos 26 May 1812 Tennessee Henderson, Thomas James, Mary 01 May 1813 Tennessee Edger, Mary James, William 31 May 1813 Tennessee Gilmore, Anny James, Abraham 28 Oct 1813 Tennessee James, Elijah Long, Rachel 01 Feb 1815 Tennessee James, Nancy Morgan, John 08 Oct 1817 Tennessee James, Elizabeth Young, William 20 Dec 1817 Tennessee James, Rachel Payn, Aquila 03 Aug 1819 Tennessee James, Peter Thacker, Jane 03 Dec 1819 Tennessee Fox, Sally James, William 27 Apr 1820 Tennessee Cloud, Betsy James, Tandy 30 Sep 1820 Tennessee Campbell, Davis James, Patsey 05 Nov 1821 Tennessee Greene County: Hunter, Jenny James, Andrew 02 Mar 1807 Tennessee Jefferson County: Hodges, Rebeca James, Alva 30 May 1813 Tennessee Rhea County: James, Lewis Robertson, Fanny 14 Jan 1813 Tennessee Howett, Thomas James, Nancy 05 Aug 1817 Tennessee James, Patsey Parker, Elisha 27 Sep 1818 Tennessee Rutherford County: Hobson, Nathaniel James, Martha 27 Oct 1812 Tennessee James, Robert L. Robertson, Johannah 13 Feb 1817 Tennessee James, William N. Nance, Clementine L 23 Oct 1824 Tennessee Sumner County: James, Betsey Sullivan, Samuel 12 Nov 1804 Tennessee Grooms, Sally Jiams, William L. 03 Feb 1818 Tennessee Williamson County: Bradley, Catharine James, George H. 24 Jul 1811 Tennessee Wilson County: Cook, Mary James, Real 25 Jun 1822 Tennessee

6/26/2006 Some Tennessee Marriages to 1825: Resource: ancestry.com database. Blount County Burns, William James, Patty 12 Mar 1817 Tennessee James, Elijah Tucker, Malinda 16 Jan 1820 Tennessee James, Ann Tucker, William 06 Feb 1820 Tennessee Carter County: Evens, Walter James, Rachel 21 Nov 1808 Tennessee Campbell, Mary James, John 07 Mar 1812 Tennessee Davidson County: Duke, Elizabeth James, Thomas 15 Apr 1797 Tennessee James, Wm. Walker, Elizabeth 24 Mar 1800 Tennessee James, Amos Mcallister, June 20 Oct 1803 Tennessee Inman, Pricilla James, Thomas 09 Jul 1804 Tennessee Ballentine, David James, Margaret 22 Sep 1810 Tennessee James, Rhoda Minton, William H. 04 Jul 1816 Tennessee Farmer, Catherine James, Smith 19 Jan 1819 Tennessee James, Patsy Wells, Hiram 31 Jan 1822 Tennessee James, Ann Shall, Jacob 08 Dec 1823 Tennessee Goodrich, Mariah C James, Lyman 17 Mar 1825 Tennessee Grainger County: James, Laban Mcbride, Rebcah 28 Jul 1800 Tennessee James, William Jr. Morris, Elizabeth 16 Oct 1802 Tennessee James, Delany Simmons, Joshua 13 Mar 1803 Tennessee Drake, Charles James, Clarisa 20 Oct 1804 Tennessee Crouse, Mary James, William 14 May 1805 Tennessee Burnett, Richard James, Polly 01 Jul 1809 Tennessee Bolton, Thomas James, Elizabeth 16 Sep 1809 Tennessee James, Barbara Willson, Amos 26 May 1812 Tennessee Henderson, Thomas James, Mary 01 May 1813 Tennessee Edger, Mary James, William 31 May 1813 Tennessee Gilmore, Anny James, Abraham 28 Oct 1813 Tennessee James, Elijah Long, Rachel 01 Feb 1815 Tennessee James, Nancy Morgan, John 08 Oct 1817 Tennessee James, Elizabeth Young, William 20 Dec 1817 Tennessee James, Rachel Payn, Aquila 03 Aug 1819 Tennessee James, Peter Thacker, Jane 03 Dec 1819 Tennessee Fox, Sally James, William 27 Apr 1820 Tennessee Cloud, Betsy James, Tandy 30 Sep 1820 Tennessee Campbell, Davis James, Patsey 05 Nov 1821 Tennessee Greene County: Hunter, Jenny James, Andrew 02 Mar 1807 Tennessee Jefferson County: Hodges, Rebeca James, Alva 30 May 1813 Tennessee Rhea County: James, Lewis Robertson, Fanny 14 Jan 1813 Tennessee Howett, Thomas James, Nancy 05 Aug 1817 Tennessee James, Patsey Parker, Elisha 27 Sep 1818 Tennessee Rutherford County: Hobson, Nathaniel James, Martha 27 Oct 1812 Tennessee James, Robert L. Robertson, Johannah 13 Feb 1817 Tennessee James, William N. Nance, Clementine L 23 Oct 1824 Tennessee Sumner County: James, Betsey Sullivan, Samuel 12 Nov 1804 Tennessee Grooms, Sally Jiams, William L. 03 Feb 1818 Tennessee Williamson County: Bradley, Catharine James, George H. 24 Jul 1811 Tennessee Wilson County: Cook, Mary James, Real 25 Jun 1822 Tennessee

Hi Everyone, I just want to repost my information in hopes that someone out there somewhere may be able to help or connect. James Andrew James b. Unknown in GA d. 1865 Civil War + Amanda Burdette m. 11-6-1862 West Point Troup Co. GA Only child: James Andrew James b. 11-18-1865 West Point Troup Co. GA. DNA results: R1b 13 24 15 11 10 14 12 12 12 13 13 30 19 9 9 11 11 25 15 19 30 15 15 15 16 No Military Records have been found except for Amanda's Pension Application. I have tried to trace EVERY James James from GA to Ala with no luck. Does ANYONE have a missing James James!!! Rosemary Kinney, RG __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com

Great news for the group.............trying to recall who is who and put "2 and 2" together to make 4 is a headache. Great job by Marv in keeping touch! ----- Original Message ----- From: Gwen Boyer Bjorkman To: JAMES-L@rootsweb.com Sent: Friday, June 23, 2006 9:46 AM Subject: [JAMES-L] RE: James James Hi Marv: Thanks so much for reminding me of that!! I'll copy to the James List so everyone will know that the James James of the 1793/1798 will in Rowan Co, NC is the son of your John James 1725-1785 of Bucks Co, PA. Do I have that correct? And you are that well defined group from Bucks Co, PA that none of the rest of us can be related to!! YDN5858 Marvin James 13 25 14 11 12 14 12 12 13 13 13 29 17 9 10 11 11 25 15 19 30 15 15 15 17 47863 Harry Comly James R1b1 12 25 14 11 12 14 12 12 13 13 13 28 17 9 10 11 11 25 15 19 30 15 15 15 17 10 11 19 23 16 13 17 16 35 38 12 12 49789 Gregory James R1b1 13 25 14 11 12 14 12 12 13 13 13 28 17 9 10 11 11 25 15 19 30 15 15 15 17 N20927 Bernard James R1b1 13 25 14 11 12 14 12 12 13 13 13 28 Gwen Boyer Bjorkman gwenbj@seanet.com -----Original Message----- From: MARVJAMES@aol.com [mailto:MARVJAMES@aol.com] Sent: Friday, June 23, 2006 5:36 AM To: gwenbj@seanet.com Subject: James James Re: James James DNA James DNA Study Results He would be my 4th great-granduncle. Marvin James № DNA Heritage YDN5858 E-mail: marvjames@aol.com Martin Luther James 1869 IA – 1944 Benjamin Martin James 1823 Wayne Co., IN – 1899 Dewey Co., OK/Elizabeth Ogburn John James 1791 Rowan Co., NC – 1858 Madison Co., IA/Lucretia Hunt Benjamin James, Sr. 1765 Bucks Co., PA – c1815 Rowan Co., NC/Eunice Williams John James 1725 Bucks Co., PA– 1785 PA/Magdalena Keshlen Thomas James c1690 Pembrokeshire, Wales- 1772 Bucks Co., PA/Jane Davis John James c1667 Pembrokeshire, Wales – 1749 Bucks Co., PA/Elizabeth [LNU] William James c1630 Pembrokeshire, Wales – 1692 Pembrokeshire, Wales/Unknown ==== JAMES Mailing List ==== List problems? First, read the Welcome Message that you received when you subscribed to this list. Feel free to contact Yvonne James-Henderson,list administrator mailto:daisysroots@yahoo.com with questions concerning this list! Visit the JAMES Surname homepage! http://www.rootsweb.com/~daisy/jameskin.htm

Hi Marv: Thanks so much for reminding me of that!! I'll copy to the James List so everyone will know that the James James of the 1793/1798 will in Rowan Co, NC is the son of your John James 1725-1785 of Bucks Co, PA. Do I have that correct? And you are that well defined group from Bucks Co, PA that none of the rest of us can be related to!! YDN5858 Marvin James 13 25 14 11 12 14 12 12 13 13 13 29 17 9 10 11 11 25 15 19 30 15 15 15 17 47863 Harry Comly James R1b1 12 25 14 11 12 14 12 12 13 13 13 28 17 9 10 11 11 25 15 19 30 15 15 15 17 10 11 19 23 16 13 17 16 35 38 12 12 49789 Gregory James R1b1 13 25 14 11 12 14 12 12 13 13 13 28 17 9 10 11 11 25 15 19 30 15 15 15 17 N20927 Bernard James R1b1 13 25 14 11 12 14 12 12 13 13 13 28 Gwen Boyer Bjorkman gwenbj@seanet.com -----Original Message----- From: MARVJAMES@aol.com [mailto:MARVJAMES@aol.com] Sent: Friday, June 23, 2006 5:36 AM To: gwenbj@seanet.com Subject: James James Re: James James DNA James DNA Study Results He would be my 4th great-granduncle. Marvin James № DNA Heritage YDN5858 E-mail: marvjames@aol.com Martin Luther James 1869 IA – 1944 Benjamin Martin James 1823 Wayne Co., IN – 1899 Dewey Co., OK/Elizabeth Ogburn John James 1791 Rowan Co., NC – 1858 Madison Co., IA/Lucretia Hunt Benjamin James, Sr. 1765 Bucks Co., PA – c1815 Rowan Co., NC/Eunice Williams John James 1725 Bucks Co., PA– 1785 PA/Magdalena Keshlen Thomas James c1690 Pembrokeshire, Wales- 1772 Bucks Co., PA/Jane Davis John James c1667 Pembrokeshire, Wales – 1749 Bucks Co., PA/Elizabeth [LNU] William James c1630 Pembrokeshire, Wales – 1692 Pembrokeshire, Wales/Unknown

James James is from John James and wife Elizabeth of Wales line - they located at New Britain, Bucks County, PA. Their son Thomas (born in Wales) married Jane Davis Thomas and Jane Davis James' children: James born in Bucks County, Pa married Elizabeth Eaton - NO CHILDREN John born in Bucks County, PA married 1. Magdalena Keshlen: their children Margaret and Benjamin both born in Bucks County, PA 2. Edith Eaton (sister to Elizabeth, James' wife): their children Catherine and James both born in Bucks County, PA 3. Alie Gray (mistress and care giver): their child John Gray James Bucks County, PA James James, brother to John took three of John' children, Benjamin, Catherine and James to Rowan County, NC when he left Bucks Co., PA The will of James James 1793/1798 if for the brother of John and uncle to Margaret, Benjamin, Catherine and James. *This is from "The History of Bucks County" by Davis, William W. H. AM Geri gerieruth@earthlink.net EarthLink Revolves Around You.

Hi Linda, Thanks so much for your imput on the James list. Glad to see you are back and doing your "Thing." You can THANK for me anyday!!!!! Glynda Alston, Campbell

I've been reading some one the DNA study on Jesse James. I understand that the DNA proves that the man buried was kin to Jesse James' mother. I saw "Jesse James: Fact or Fiction" on the History Channel today. It seems that the body is that of Jesse James so have they done a Y-DNA test to see if that line has other matches? I am new to DNA -genealogy. Thanks! jane

HI Lists, Did any of you catch the name of Beal JAMES in the census posting by Rose Kinney? It is curious to think about because of the JAMES/BEAL marriage in Virginia (hope I recalled that correctly!)...........and also the surname BEAL is interchangeable with BAIL, BAILER and BAILERT. Think on it!

These old family names just keep popping up... JJ ----- Original Message ----- From: "lthank" <lthank@turboisp.com> To: <JAMES-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, June 22, 2006 11:10 AM Subject: Re: [JAMES-L] RE: James James will 1793/1798 > Here are some notes of which I made for myself about the will of James JAMES in relation to the contents. Maybe some others have > something to add? > > notes made from this will: > > 1. All spelling can be worked with soundex for variations of other surnames in this will. > > 2. This James JAMES had a wife named Elizabeth. > > 3. This James JAMES had a nephew named James JAMES. He must have been of majority age as he was given the job of paying the debts. > > 4. This James JAMES had a brother named John JAMES. > > 5. This James and his brother John hah a sister who was name Rachel who was married to a SHOELS. > > 6. This James JAMES had a friend or relative named Elizabeth ARON. (could be for IRON). > > 7. This James JAMES' brother John had a daughter named Catharina WILLIAMS. > > 8. This James JAMES had friends or neighbors or relatives who were named George GENTLE and Isaac HARRIS. > 9. This James JAMES had lands which bounded with a person with or a plantation or (??something) named "Wosrealer land" > 10. This James JAMES was familiar with and preferred to use "Pensyvania currency" which would indicate to me that perhaps he was > not willing to have his possessions valued by resources in any form other than one that was guaranteed to produce the actual values > thereof. Perhaps his lands were involved in leases or grants which originated in Pennsylvania. > 11. The list of names of children and relations does not totally signify the entirety of James JAMES children. However, most old > will do........keep open minded! > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Fred H Held > To: JAMES-L@rootsweb.com > Sent: Thursday, June 22, 2006 6:35 AM > Subject: [JAMES-L] RE: James James will 1793/1798 > > > It appears that these data in the LDS Ancestral > File submitted by ELIZABETH B SEVISON might be your man. > ========================== > Family Group Record FamilySearchT Ancestral File v4.19 > > Husband's Name Thomas JAMES (AFN:JLMV-R9) > Born: 29 Jan 1716 Place: Philadelphia, Pa > Died: 1761 > Father: Thomas JAMES (AFN:JLMV-PX) > Mother: Sarah (AFN:JLMV-Q4) > > Wife's Name Mary THOMAS (AFN:JLMV-J3) > Born: Abt. 1720 Place: <Philadelphia, Pa> > > Children: > 1. John JAMES (AFN:JLMV-ML) > Born: Abt. 1750 Place: , , North Carolina > > 2. Thomas JAMES (AFN:JLMV-NR) > Born: Abt. 1752 Place: , , North Carolina > > 3. James JAMES (AFN:JLMV-LF) <<<<<<<<<<< > Born: 1748 Place: , , , North Carolina > Died: Oct 1796 Place: , Duplin, N.c. > > 4. David JAMES (AFN:JLMV-K8) > Born: 1745 Place: <, , , North Carolina> > =========================== > > > At 07:00 AM 6/22/2006, you wrote: > >From: "Gwen Boyer Bjorkman" <gwenbj@seanet.com> > >To: JAMES-L@rootsweb.com > >Subject: RE: James James will 1793/1798 > > > >Does anyone know who this is? Are they in the James DNA test? > > > >Will of James James, 1793, Rowan County NC > > > >WILL of JAMES, James > >WRITTEN: January 24, 1793 > >PROVED: 1798 > > > >The 24th day of January AD 1793 I James James of > >the County of Rowan in the State of N. Carolina > >Yeoman being of sound mind & memory thanks be to > >God for the same do make & declare this my last > >will & test: in manner following Principally & > >first I recommend my soul unto the hands of God > >who gave it & my body to the earth to be buried > >in a decent & Christian manner at the discretion > >of my executor herein named not doubting but > >that I shall receive the same again at the > >general resurrection & as Touching such worldly > >estate as it has pleased God to bless Me. I give > >& dispose of the same in the following manner & > >form. Imprimis my will is & I do order that all > >my just debts & funeral charges be paid & discharged. > >Item I give & bequeath unto Elizabeth my well beloved wife all my personal & > >moveable estate, to enjoy her heirs & assigns > >forever, likewise I give & devise > >unto Elizabeth my wife half the plantation I now > >live on to have & enjoy during > >her natural life. > >Item I give & bequeath unto my nephew James > >James son of my brother James the plantation I > >now live on being half plantation after my > >decease & the other half after the decease of my wife Elizabeth. > >Item I give & bequeath unto my nephew James > >James son of my brother John James, one hundred > >acres of land part of hundred acres, late taken > >out of the office, to be divided State line, my > >nephew James James is to have the end being > >Wosrealer land, to be held & enjoyed by my said > >nephew James James his heirs & assigns forever. > >Item I give & bequeath unto my niece Catharina > >Williams daughter of my brother John James one > >hundred acres of land being the other part of > >two hundred acres, late taken out of the office, > >to be held & enjoyed by the said niece Catharina > >Williams her heirs & assigns forever. > >Item I give & bequeath unto sister Rachel Shoels, children, the sum of twenty > >shillings, Pensilvania currency to be paid in two years after my decease. > >Item I give & bequeath unto my brother Thomas > >James children, the sum of twenty shillings, > >current money of Pensilvania to be paid in two years after my decease. > >Item I give & bequeath unto Elizabeth Aron > >children the sum of twenty shillings > >Pensilvania currency to be paid in two years after my decease. My loving wife > >Elizabeth, & my nephew James James is to pay my > >just debts & legacies; also I do appoint sole > >executors of this my last will & test: hereby > >revoking all every former wills by me made > >confirming this to be my last will & test. > >In witness whereof I have hereunto set my hand & > >seal the day & year fixed above written in the presence of us. > >George Gentle, Isaac Harris > >James James seal > >... > >-----Original Message----- > >From: JERRY RATHMANN [mailto:RATHMANN305@msn.com] > >Sent: Wednesday, June 21, 2006 11:34 AM > >To: Gwen Boyer Bjorkman > >Subject: James James will 1793/1798 > > > >Gwen, > > > >I was cleaning out my documents and ran across > >this. You may already have it but I could not be > >sure. > > > >jer > > > > > ==== JAMES Mailing List ==== > Visit the JAMES Surname homepage! > http://www.rootsweb.com/~daisy/jameskin.htm > > > > ==== JAMES Mailing List ==== > List problems? First, read the Welcome Message that you received > when you subscribed to this list. Feel free to contact > Yvonne James-Henderson,list administrator mailto:daisysroots@yahoo.com > with questions concerning this list! > Visit the JAMES Surname homepage! > http://www.rootsweb.com/~daisy/jameskin.htm >

Great spotting, Fred! I missed the parts of James JAMES having brothers Thomas and James. Thank your! They are now numbers 12 & 13 but I plan to put them in sequential order by relationships when I clean up the mess! Regards. Linda ----- Original Message ----- From: Fred H Held To: lthank Sent: Thursday, June 22, 2006 8:42 AM Subject: Re: [JAMES-L] RE: James James will 1793/1798 According to the transcribed will, your James had a brother James. Was that a transcription error? >Item I give & bequeath unto my nephew James >James son of my brother James the plantation I >now live on being half plantation after my >decease & the other half after the decease of my wife Elizabeth. At 10:10 AM 6/22/2006, you wrote: >Here are some notes of which I made for myself about the will of >James JAMES in relation to the contents. Maybe some others have >something to add? > > >notes made from this will: > >1. All spelling can be worked with soundex for variations of other >surnames in this will. > >2. This James JAMES had a wife named Elizabeth. > >3. This James JAMES had a nephew named James JAMES. He must have >been of majority age as he was given the job of paying the debts. > >4. This James JAMES had a brother named John JAMES. > >5. This James and his brother John hah a sister who was name Rachel >who was married to a SHOELS. > >6. This James JAMES had a friend or relative named Elizabeth ARON. >(could be for IRON). > >7. This James JAMES' brother John had a daughter named Catharina WILLIAMS. >8. This James JAMES had friends or neighbors or relatives who were >named George GENTLE and Isaac HARRIS. >9. This James JAMES had lands which bounded with a person with or a >plantation or (??something) named "Wosrealer land" >10. This James JAMES was familiar with and preferred to use >"Pensyvania currency" which would indicate to me that perhaps he was >not willing to have his possessions valued by resources in any form >other than one that was guaranteed to produce the actual values >thereof. Perhaps his lands were involved in leases or grants which >originated in Pennsylvania. >11. The list of names of children and relations does not totally >signify the entirety of James JAMES children. However, most old will >do........keep open minded! > >----- Original Message ----- >From: <mailto:fhheld@netzero.net>Fred H Held >To: <mailto:JAMES-L@rootsweb.com>JAMES-L@rootsweb.com >Sent: Thursday, June 22, 2006 6:35 AM >Subject: [JAMES-L] RE: James James will 1793/1798 > >It appears that these data in the LDS Ancestral >File submitted by ELIZABETH B SEVISON might be your man. >========================== >Family Group Record FamilySearchT Ancestral File v4.19 > >Husband's Name Thomas JAMES (AFN:JLMV-R9) >Born: 29 Jan 1716 Place: Philadelphia, Pa >Died: 1761 >Father: Thomas JAMES (AFN:JLMV-PX) >Mother: Sarah (AFN:JLMV-Q4) > >Wife's Name Mary THOMAS (AFN:JLMV-J3) >Born: Abt. 1720 Place: <Philadelphia, Pa> > >Children: >1. John JAMES (AFN:JLMV-ML) >Born: Abt. 1750 Place: , , North Carolina > >2. Thomas JAMES (AFN:JLMV-NR) >Born: Abt. 1752 Place: , , North Carolina > >3. James JAMES (AFN:JLMV-LF) <<<<<<<<<<< >Born: 1748 Place: , , , North Carolina >Died: Oct 1796 Place: , Duplin, N.c. > >4. David JAMES (AFN:JLMV-K8) >Born: 1745 Place: <, , , North Carolina> >=========================== > > >At 07:00 AM 6/22/2006, you wrote: > >From: "Gwen Boyer Bjorkman" <<mailto:gwenbj@seanet.com>gwenbj@seanet.com> > >To: <mailto:JAMES-L@rootsweb.com>JAMES-L@rootsweb.com > >Subject: RE: James James will 1793/1798 > > > >Does anyone know who this is? Are they in the James DNA test? > > > >Will of James James, 1793, Rowan County NC > > > >WILL of JAMES, James > >WRITTEN: January 24, 1793 > >PROVED: 1798 > > > >The 24th day of January AD 1793 I James James of > >the County of Rowan in the State of N. Carolina > >Yeoman being of sound mind & memory thanks be to > >God for the same do make & declare this my last > >will & test: in manner following Principally & > >first I recommend my soul unto the hands of God > >who gave it & my body to the earth to be buried > >in a decent & Christian manner at the discretion > >of my executor herein named not doubting but > >that I shall receive the same again at the > >general resurrection & as Touching such worldly > >estate as it has pleased God to bless Me. I give > >& dispose of the same in the following manner & > >form. Imprimis my will is & I do order that all > >my just debts & funeral charges be paid & discharged. > >Item I give & bequeath unto Elizabeth my well beloved wife all my personal & > >moveable estate, to enjoy her heirs & assigns > >forever, likewise I give & devise > >unto Elizabeth my wife half the plantation I now > >live on to have & enjoy during > >her natural life. > >Item I give & bequeath unto my nephew James > >James son of my brother James the plantation I > >now live on being half plantation after my > >decease & the other half after the decease of my wife Elizabeth. > >Item I give & bequeath unto my nephew James > >James son of my brother John James, one hundred > >acres of land part of hundred acres, late taken > >out of the office, to be divided State line, my > >nephew James James is to have the end being > >Wosrealer land, to be held & enjoyed by my said > >nephew James James his heirs & assigns forever. > >Item I give & bequeath unto my niece Catharina > >Williams daughter of my brother John James one > >hundred acres of land being the other part of > >two hundred acres, late taken out of the office, > >to be held & enjoyed by the said niece Catharina > >Williams her heirs & assigns forever. > >Item I give & bequeath unto sister Rachel Shoels, children, the > sum of twenty > >shillings, Pensilvania currency to be paid in two years after my decease. > >Item I give & bequeath unto my brother Thomas > >James children, the sum of twenty shillings, > >current money of Pensilvania to be paid in two years after my decease. > >Item I give & bequeath unto Elizabeth Aron > >children the sum of twenty shillings > >Pensilvania currency to be paid in two years after my decease. My > loving wife > >Elizabeth, & my nephew James James is to pay my > >just debts & legacies; also I do appoint sole > >executors of this my last will & test: hereby > >revoking all every former wills by me made > >confirming this to be my last will & test. > >In witness whereof I have hereunto set my hand & > >seal the day & year fixed above written in the presence of us. > >George Gentle, Isaac Harris > >James James seal > >... > >-----Original Message----- > >From: JERRY RATHMANN [mailto:RATHMANN305@msn.com] > >Sent: Wednesday, June 21, 2006 11:34 AM > >To: Gwen Boyer Bjorkman > >Subject: James James will 1793/1798 > > > >Gwen, > > > >I was cleaning out my documents and ran across > >this. You may already have it but I could not be > >sure. > > > >jer > > > > >==== JAMES Mailing List ==== >Visit the JAMES Surname homepage! ><http://www.rootsweb.com/~daisy/jameskin.htm>http://www.rootsweb.com/~daisy/jameskin.htm

Here are the 67 markers for Thomas Malcolm James. So now we can compare the 67 markers for Thomas and David and Doyle. They are certainly three different James families. Doyle and David are closer both being from the Haplogroup R1b1. We will look forward to the explanation from the FTDNATiP when it is ready. We had two new James DNA tests ordered this week and we will look forward to seeing those new results in the future. We would encourage any other men with the last name James to join our James DNA test. We now have 60 men in the group that you can compare DNA with. 44611 Thomas Malcolm James I 13 22 14 10 13 14 11 14 11 12 11 28 15 8 9 8 12 23 16 20 28 12 14 15 15 10 10 19 21 14 14 17 19 36 38 12 10 11 8 15 15 8 11 10 8 9 9 12 23 25 16 10 12 12 15 8 14 24 20 13 13 11 13 11 11 12 11 24887 David Mitchell James R1b1 13 24 14 11 11 13 12 12 13 13 13 29 17 9 10 11 11 25 14 18 30 15 15 17 17 10 10 19 23 12 15 18 17 36 39 12 11 11 9 15 16 8 10 10 8 10 10 12 20 21 16 10 12 12 15 8 12 22 20 15 12 11 13 10 11 11 12 25727 Doyle Roland James R1b1 13 24 14 11 11 14 12 12 12 13 13 29 16 9 9 11 11 25 15 19 31 15 15 17 17 10 11 19 23 16 16 19 17 37 40 11 12 11 9 15 16 8 10 11 8 10 10 12 21 21 16 10 12 12 14 8 11 24 20 14 12 11 13 10 11 12 12 Gwen Boyer Bjorkman gwenbj@seanet.com -----Original Message----- From: info@familytreedna.com [mailto:info@familytreedna.com] Sent: Thursday, June 22, 2006 6:39 AM To: jamesdm49@aol.com; gwenbj@seanet.com Subject: New DNA Test Results Posted for a Group Member in Group James New Y-DNA37-67 results have been posted for Kit 44611, a member of your Family Tree DNA James group. Please note that the FTDNATiP for the 67-marker comparison will be available on 6/13/06. Family Tree DNA