In a message dated 28/10/99 5:55:56 PM Central Standard Time, mark@highland-family-heritage.co.uk writes: << Hi Paul and list and friends in the Brit Regiment list, I am no expert on all matters Jacobite or anything like it. However as I said, the one place they successfully recruited in England during the march to Derby, was in Lancashire, after they captured Carlisle. These recruits were assumed into the Manchester Regiment commanded by the brave, (but as history proved naive or foolish) Col. Francis Townley. If I am not mistaken, the greatest strength of The Manchester Group was never more than 200. It also "sucked up" the stragglers and deserters from the Regular army. Unfortunately Townley volunteered his regiment to hold Carlisle during the retreat and when he surrendered, he and his men were treated as traitors, rather than as prisoners-of-war. He and most of his Captains were among the last men in Britain to suffer the dreadful punishment of being hung, cut down just before they were dead, having their entrails removed while they were alive and then if they hadn't died with shock or loss of blood, watched as the axeman put them out of their misery. This was the execution William Wallace faced 450 years earlier. We weren't that terribly much more civilised almost half a millennium later!! Many places still are not. Many of the less civilized countries still have the death penalty. Anyway I am not sure about all the sources of Muster Rolls in England and hopefully Iain Kerr will see this posting and give a far more eloquent answer than I ever can. It will be very interesting to see if any record was kept. The English King and his officers were not know for their kindness, or mercy in this campaign. Iain as you read this along with all the other Brit Regiment "troops", don't blush because you will probably forget more about British military history than most of the rest of us will ever learn. Regards to all from the Jacobite list. Mark Genealogist: Clan Sutherland Co-genealogist: Clan Mackenzie see my web-site: http://www.highland-family-heritage.co.uk ----- Original Message ----- >>