Hi Bob, Thanks for getting in touch. I am hoping that we can have a good rip-roaring discussion on the '45 as the list develops. There isn't a day passes but I learn something about the Jacobite era and I consider myself a good Hanoverian (Sutherland blood prevails!!). I have never heard the suggestion that Gows were ever Frasers and of course Gow is the Gaelic name for Smith. Certainly the Smiths were in that part of Morayshire and Banffshire which was almost half way between the two sets of Fraser lands, most people forgetting that the Frasers of Lovat were and are effectively a "clan within a clan" and that the Frasers are also based in north-east Aberdeenshire. Regards, Mark Genealogist: Clan Sutherland Co-genealogist: Clan Mackenzie see my web-site: http://www.highland-family-heritage.co.uk ----- Original Message ----- From: Robert Fraser Andrews <fraser2@fls.infi.net> To: Mark Sutherland-Fisher <mark@highland-family-heritage.co.uk> Sent: 26 October 1999 01:07 Subject: Re: George Smith born c 1720 > Hi Mark, > > Thanks for the new forum. > > I have been over the Kiltarlity Parish records many times. The name Gow is > one of the earliest entries(early 1700's). It was my understanding that the > Gow's were actually Fraser's. > > Bob > > At 09:29 PM 10/25/99 +0100, you wrote: > >Hi folks and welcome to this new list. To kick it off, I am trying to find > >out more about my 5x great grandfather George Smith or Gow, who fought at > >Culloden on the Jacobite side, was captured, enlisted in order to receive > >a Royal Pardon, like so many others and then served under General Wolfe in > >Canada and was at the Battle of the Heights of Abraham, the day before > >Quebec was taken and at which battle Wolfe was killed. George later served > >under Robert Clive in India before returning to Knockando in Morayshire. > >His great grandsons included Sir Donald Alexander Smith and Sir George > >Stephen, afterwards 1st Baron Strathcona and Mount Royal and 1st Baron > >Mountstephen, respectively. We know George served in the 78th, the > >regiment which Simon, Lord Lovat raised in order to get back in the "good > >books" after his father was beheaded for his part in the '45 and the > >family estates were temporarily forfeited. > >Anyone have Muster Rolls which include George. The book on the Muster > >Rolls of the Army of Prince Charles Edward Stuart excludes many of the > >North-east Clans, concentrating on the West-coast Clans. > >Mark > >Genealogist: Clan Sutherland > >Co-genealogist: Clan Mackenzie > >see my web-site: http://www.highland-family-heritage.co.uk > > > http://thefrasers.com > > > This site is dedicated to all > people of the name Fraser!! > > > Please join in The Fraser Discussion Forum > >