In a message dated 11/27/2002 10:01:48 PM Eastern Standard Time, IVESTER-D-request@rootsweb.com writes: > When I was in Clarkesville in June, I made a copy of the "Vital Statistics > Index, Habersham County, GA "Births". It has a delayed birth file A-1926 > listed for Frank Newton Ivester filed 15 Jul 1947 in which Frank gave his > father's name as John Nichols Ivester. I have changed my records from > Newton to Nichols based on this information. By the way, Frank's date of > birth was 10 Dec 1882. I have a date of birth for his father of 19 Apr > 1842. . Interesting coincidence my own father's middle name was Nichols and > his father's middle name was Nicholas. > Edna I. Cole > Elizabeth Harris <ncgen@mindspring.com> wrote:John N. IVESTER was born > about 1840, son of George IVESTER and Nancy WHISENANT. > > From family sources, I had his middle name as Nicholas (which would > be reasonable, considering that Nancy's father was named John > Nicholas). However, I've been told by some of the folks on this list > that his middle name was Newton. > > Does anyone have definitive information or documentation for this? > Elizabeth, I don't know if anyone has mentioned the Nichols/Ivester connection much on this list before, but my direct line ancestors were Nichols. In Habersham, Clarkesville County, the Nichols family resided in the same area as the Jones and Ivesters. I have all three in my direct ancestor lines. My gg-grandmother Nancy Melinda Nichols married Jacob B. Ivester. Nancy was born in 1834 and I'm thinking Frank may have been named after the Nichols line that married into the Ivesters. Just a thought. I don't have Frank listed in my file but I will add him. Did he have any other bros. or sisters? I have John N. Ivester married to a Sally Porter. Is this information correct? Let me know what you think about the Nichols info. Also, remember that Nicholas without the a IS Nichols. :) Gayle

Gayle wrote: >I don't know if anyone has mentioned the Nichols/Ivester connection much on >this list before, but my direct line ancestors were Nichols. In Habersham, >Clarkesville County, the Nichols family resided in the same area as the Jones >and Ivesters. I have all three in my direct ancestor lines. >My gg-grandmother Nancy Melinda Nichols married Jacob B. Ivester. Nancy was >born in 1834 and I'm thinking Frank may have been named after the Nichols >line that married into the Ivesters. >Just a thought. I don't have Frank listed in my file but I will add him. Did >he have any other bros. or sisters? I have John N. Ivester married to a >Sally Porter. Is this information correct? >Let me know what you think about the Nichols info. >Also, remember that Nicholas without the a IS Nichols. :) > I'm not aware of any connection (yet!) to the NICHOLS family, although there could be one someplace in here. But Nicholas as a middle name (or more properly German-style second name) goes back at least three generations in this family. George Ivester's wife was Nancy WHISENANT (variable spellings). Her ancestors were John Nicholas WHISENANT (1775-1860) and Nancy THOMPSON John Nicholas WHISENANT (1743-1831) and Mary CARPENTER (anglicized from German ZIMMERMAN). Johann Adam VISINAND (1719-1784) and Barbara EAKER and Johann Adam had a brother Johann Nicholas VISINAND, born in Germany in 1716/1717. In German naming, Johann would be the baptismal name, and you might have several children in the same family named Johann Something. This child would be called Nicholas, Johann Adam would be called Adam, and so on. As the names become anglicized in the U.S., Johann becomes John, but the names often retain a two-part quality into the 19th century - John Nicholas, John Henry, John Christian, etc. would be very typical names in American families of German-speaking origin in this time frame. So this is why I've thought that John N. Ivester was probably Nicholas rather than Newton. However, lacking any further documentation, I would accept Edna's evidence from his son Frank's delayed birth certificate that it was Nichols rather than Nicholas. Yes, he did marry Sally PORTER (1842-1933), d/o Samuel Grimes Porter and Martha Whisenant (who was a half-sister to Nancy Whisenant, so John N. and Sallie were cousins). -- Elizabeth Harris ncgen@mindspring.com NCGenWeb project: http://www.rootsweb.com/~ncgenweb/ Winston-Salem NC area genealogy: http://www.fmoran.com/