Found my Henry Ivester, son of Peter Ivester in the Family Search site. Has anyone found this family anywhere in the Censuses? I know that Henry is buried in Habersham County, GA and that Mary was buried in Hunters Creek Baptist Church Cemetery, Franklin County, Carnesville, GA. Why in 2 different cemeteries, I don't know, maybe she didn't want to be buried where he was or maybe the kids just buried her close to where she died. Henry Ivester birth 1853 Habersham, GA Mary Black birth 1860 GA married about 1890, Habersham GA Julius A Ivester birth APRIL 30, 1891 Habersham GA death MAY 30, 1936 Brice R Ivester birth AUG 15, 1893 Habersham GA death JUL 17, 1969 Warner Robins, Houston Cty, GA ( death place was not on file but this is where he died and is buried) Richard Cliff Ivester birth OCT 01, 1896 Habersham GA death NOV 26, 1966 Luther Jackson Ivester Birth OCT 17, 1902 Habersham GA death OCT 29, 1950 Gerley Mae Ivester birth MAY 08, 1907 Habersham, GA death MAR 06, 1970 Regina

Hi Gayle, your records need a little tweaking. The spelling is Stuart - but the mistake came from some mis-information (is that a word?) given many years ago by Trist herself. We don't know the reason for the information she gave, but it has now been proven incorrect. Trist was born two months before Lacy Stewart was killed at Chancellorsville. He was a 1st Lieutenant - CSA. Next, her brother's name was John Billups Stewart (not James). They were both the children of Lacy Stewart (s/o John Stewart and Catherine Whisenant) and Amanda Jones. There were three other children of Lacy and Amanda - namely William, Mary Catherine and Martin V. I can find nothing (except census records on William and Martiin V.) However, I have been in contact with a descendant of Mary Catherine and also John Billups (great-granddaughters of each). I am a great-granddaughter of Trist - so the family is finally closing in on some information. Trist and John Billups also had a half brother and a half sister from Amanda's second marriage. She married a John "Doc" Hughes from South Carolina and they had two children. When those children were very young, Hughs deserted Amanda and the children and returned to South Carolina. Before Amanda died, she asked that she be buried under the name Stewart (instead of Hughes) and she is buried at Macedonia. I don't remember right now, but I think John Billups and his wife, Ella Taylor, are buried there as well - while John Stewart and Catherine Whisenant are buried on the Stewart property somewhere in or around Habersham. Amanda's name was Amanda Melvina Jones. In the 1880 census her mother, Mary Jones is living with her. Mary Jones states that she is 86 years old, was born in Georgia and that her father was born in Ireland. I have tried and tried and cannot determine the name of Amanda's father. I do know that Amanda and Lacy were married in Rabun County, so it's at least a good bet she is from one of the Rabun Jones' families. I don't know if you connect to the Stewarts or the Jones families - but I have pictures if you are interested. I have a picture of Lacy, Amanda, John Billups, Trist, and Ella Taylor. I know that you are also researching Jones families - so if you have any clues regarding Amanda, I'd sure appreciate any suggestions you might have. Other direct line names connected to Lacy Stewart (ancestors) are Eaker, Carpenter, Kiser (Kaiser), Mullinax, and Visinand (now Whisenant). Fran

In a message dated 11/17/2002 1:01:24 AM Eastern Standard Time, IVESTER-D-request@rootsweb.com writes: > Remember earlier this week we were talking about everyone being related to > Ivesters... well this is just another case. > > Catherine Matilda Vandiver (descendant of Sarah Boatright) married Landrum > Taylor. Their daughter, Ella Taylor, married John Billups Stewart who is > the > brother of Trist Stewart who married Newell Bright Ivester. > > According to "The Heritage of Habersham County" - Catherine Matilda > Vandiver > was half Cherokee. Her mother was called "The Dove" and was the sister of > Gray Eagle, Chief of the Cherokee at (I think) Tallulah Falls. This is > found > (in case you have the book) under John Stewart and Catherine Whisenant who > were the parents of Lacy Stewart - who was the father of Trist Stewart > Ivester. > > I wonder if Saddam Hussein had any relatives in Georgia... we might be > related. > > Fran > Hi Fran, My records of this line have the name spelled Stuart. Also I have one brother of Trist named James Billups Stuart not John. Are my records wrong? Just let me know! Thanks! Gayle

Remember earlier this week we were talking about everyone being related to Ivesters... well this is just another case. Catherine Matilda Vandiver (descendant of Sarah Boatright) married Landrum Taylor. Their daughter, Ella Taylor, married John Billups Stewart who is the brother of Trist Stewart who married Newell Bright Ivester. According to "The Heritage of Habersham County" - Catherine Matilda Vandiver was half Cherokee. Her mother was called "The Dove" and was the sister of Gray Eagle, Chief of the Cherokee at (I think) Tallulah Falls. This is found (in case you have the book) under John Stewart and Catherine Whisenant who were the parents of Lacy Stewart - who was the father of Trist Stewart Ivester. I wonder if Saddam Hussein had any relatives in Georgia... we might be related. Fran

Hi Judy, Amanda Vandiver was the daughter of Marcus D. Vandiver and Sarah M. Boatright. They appear on the 1880 Census Rabun County, GA Tiger Dist Van Diviere, Marcus D. Head 54 M GA SC GA Farmer Sarah wife 52 M SC VA GA Augustine Dau 21 S GA GA SC Adolphus C Son 18 S GA GA SC Georgia A Dau 16 S GA GA SC Dudley M. Son 15 S GA GA SC Amanda D Dau 7 S GA GA SC 1900 Census Rabun County, GA Tiger Dist Vandivier, Marcus D. Head Jul 1824 75 M 52 GA SC GA Farmer Sarah M. Wife Oct 1826 73 M 52 SC VA GA Georgia Dau July 1862 37 S GA GA GA Amanda Dau July 1871 28 S GA GA GA Ivister, Henry Boarder Jun 1878 21 S GA GA GA Farm Laborer Henry and Amanda married the following year on 27 Oct 1901 in Walhalla, Oconee Co., SC. Henry often visited a family by the name of Massey in Walhalla, SC and even went to the sale of Anderson Ivester's estate with the Massey's son. So it would seem that the Georgia Ivesters kept in touch with the SC relatives. Edna Jvmason@aol.com wrote:I have a lot of VanDiver info but don't seem to have William Henry Ivesters's wife's parents. Do we know just whose daughter she was? Judy --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Web Hosting - Let the expert host your site

I have a lot of VanDiver info but don't seem to have William Henry Ivesters's wife's parents. Do we know just whose daughter she was? Judy

In a message dated 11/13/2002 12:30:40 PM Central Standard Time, ruthptb@tcac.net writes: > One thing I do know is that Lovicia and Nancy Ann sewed...and they > used the 'Snow method'....anyone know what the heck this method is?? > > Everyone have a good Thanksgiving if you don't hear from me before that! > > Ruth Padilla > Amarillo, Texas > > > Hi Ruth, Dang if I know what the snow sewing method is. What I can tell you is that a search on google for snow sewing methods sure gets some wild hits... <g>. Would you believe the directions for a poodle skirt with snow on it?????????? And you have a great Thanksgiving too but we sure hope we hear from you before then. Take care - Emma

Ruth we are speaking of the daughter of Jacob B. Gable and Jaley Ann Ivester. Judy

In a message dated 11/13/02 12:30:40 PM Central Standard Time, ruthptb@tcac.net writes: > No where were Nancy Ann and her daughter Lovicia (my > great grandmother (who married Mitchell Henry Anderson) found in the > 1870 census. The story of her running off to Texas was false but I > am unable to prove it yet. She married Ira in 1885 and Lovicia and > Mitchell Henry were still in Habersham in 1890 with 6 of their > children BORN there. I find Nancy Ann and Ira.....and Mitchell Henry > and Lovicia and children in Oklahoma by 1900. > HI Ruth, Did you see the message on F. C. Green and Rebecca????? Take care - Emma

Does anyone have any idea why Jacob was captured on the 5th of July, two days after the three day battle (July 1-3) of Gettysburg? I can only guess that he was in Lee's rear guard as he retreated, but it could be that he was wounded and left behind. Any info would be appreciated. Beautiful photos, Ruth! Thanks, Lee -----Original Message----- From: Ruth [mailto:ruthptb@tcac.net] Sent: Wednesday, November 13, 2002 10:28 AM To: IVESTER-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [IVESTER] Martha Elizabeth I agree totally! So many of my great great grandmother's Nancy Ann Nichols Ivester (later she married Ira C. Dallas Nix) when her husband Jacob Ivester was captured at Gettysburg and later died in New Jersy in a prison camp of smallpox. I want to know about any of these people! The truth! Times were hard on our southern families and maybe some of the truth will shed light on what they had to go through and where possibly we can find them! I have on census where Nancy Ann had SIX children living...one dead child and I have only found four as Janice had found. Those other two children have to be somewhere since two of the original found four were in other households. No where were Nancy Ann and her daughter Lovicia (my great grandmother (who married Mitchell Henry Anderson) found in the 1870 census. The story of her running off to Texas was false but I am unable to prove it yet. She married Ira in 1885 and Lovicia and Mitchell Henry were still in Habersham in 1890 with 6 of their children BORN there. I find Nancy Ann and Ira.....and Mitchell Henry and Lovicia and children in Oklahoma by 1900. SOOOOOOO.....stories! Tell us all and any stories! I don't think any of us descendants are perfect and I'm sure they weren't either! I choose to believe they were 'colorful'....yeah...that's what I am too....colorful! That's my story and I'm sticking to it! Chuck...can you scan those photos?? Do you have the obit? ANY photos any one wants to send me or obits or ANYTHING on our family, I will MOST gladly post to the website! Any stories as to what these people were like would be appreciated! Only by seeing everyone's photos do we gain an understanding why we look the way we do! I know that my daddy (Ivester/Nichols line) was a spitting image to Nancy Ann's uncle Andrew J Nichols...the merchant. My younger brother Oren and I definitely favor this line and he is looking more and more like Andrew J. I'll try to remember to post what photos I have on these families and let ya'll know when I get it done. Till then, you can see what the heck I look like at the following website: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~ruthptb/Ruth_-_June_2002.html One thing I do know is that Lovicia and Nancy Ann sewed...and they used the 'Snow method'....anyone know what the heck this method is?? Everyone have a good Thanksgiving if you don't hear from me before that! Ruth Padilla Amarillo, Texas >Please do not attempt to spare the feelings of we >decendents of Martha Elizabeth. I am eager to learn as >much of the truth as is possible. She was my >grandmother, I did attend her funeral, have photos! >Our family visited Tom and Lizzie on their farm in >Winterville many times. Chuck Rogers > >__________________________________________________ >Do you Yahoo!? >U2 on LAUNCH - Exclusive greatest hits videos >http://launch.yahoo.com/u2 > > >==== IVESTER Mailing List ==== >HINT: Make your queries more effective by including dates and >locations as well as names. >Have questions or concerns contact list administrator at >Ivester-admin@rootsweb.com > >============================== >To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy >records, go to: >http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 -- "If your life is free of failures, you're not taking enough risks." ==== IVESTER Mailing List ==== HINT: Make your queries more effective by including dates and locations as well as names. Have questions or concerns contact list administrator at Ivester-admin@rootsweb.com ============================== To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237

Oops! I forgot to ask....which Martha Elizabeth is this???? Thanks, Ruth >Please do not attempt to spare the feelings of we >decendents of Martha Elizabeth. I am eager to learn as >much of the truth as is possible. She was my >grandmother, I did attend her funeral, have photos! >Our family visited Tom and Lizzie on their farm in >Winterville many times. Chuck Rogers -- "If your life is free of failures, you're not taking enough risks."

I agree totally! So many of my great great grandmother's Nancy Ann Nichols Ivester (later she married Ira C. Dallas Nix) when her husband Jacob Ivester was captured at Gettysburg and later died in New Jersy in a prison camp of smallpox. I want to know about any of these people! The truth! Times were hard on our southern families and maybe some of the truth will shed light on what they had to go through and where possibly we can find them! I have on census where Nancy Ann had SIX children living...one dead child and I have only found four as Janice had found. Those other two children have to be somewhere since two of the original found four were in other households. No where were Nancy Ann and her daughter Lovicia (my great grandmother (who married Mitchell Henry Anderson) found in the 1870 census. The story of her running off to Texas was false but I am unable to prove it yet. She married Ira in 1885 and Lovicia and Mitchell Henry were still in Habersham in 1890 with 6 of their children BORN there. I find Nancy Ann and Ira.....and Mitchell Henry and Lovicia and children in Oklahoma by 1900. SOOOOOOO.....stories! Tell us all and any stories! I don't think any of us descendants are perfect and I'm sure they weren't either! I choose to believe they were 'colorful'....yeah...that's what I am too....colorful! That's my story and I'm sticking to it! Chuck...can you scan those photos?? Do you have the obit? ANY photos any one wants to send me or obits or ANYTHING on our family, I will MOST gladly post to the website! Any stories as to what these people were like would be appreciated! Only by seeing everyone's photos do we gain an understanding why we look the way we do! I know that my daddy (Ivester/Nichols line) was a spitting image to Nancy Ann's uncle Andrew J Nichols...the merchant. My younger brother Oren and I definitely favor this line and he is looking more and more like Andrew J. I'll try to remember to post what photos I have on these families and let ya'll know when I get it done. Till then, you can see what the heck I look like at the following website: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~ruthptb/Ruth_-_June_2002.html One thing I do know is that Lovicia and Nancy Ann sewed...and they used the 'Snow method'....anyone know what the heck this method is?? Everyone have a good Thanksgiving if you don't hear from me before that! Ruth Padilla Amarillo, Texas >Please do not attempt to spare the feelings of we >decendents of Martha Elizabeth. I am eager to learn as >much of the truth as is possible. She was my >grandmother, I did attend her funeral, have photos! >Our family visited Tom and Lizzie on their farm in >Winterville many times. Chuck Rogers > >__________________________________________________ >Do you Yahoo!? >U2 on LAUNCH - Exclusive greatest hits videos >http://launch.yahoo.com/u2 > > >==== IVESTER Mailing List ==== >HINT: Make your queries more effective by including dates and >locations as well as names. >Have questions or concerns contact list administrator at >Ivester-admin@rootsweb.com > >============================== >To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy >records, go to: >http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 -- "If your life is free of failures, you're not taking enough risks."

Please do not attempt to spare the feelings of we decendents of Martha Elizabeth. I am eager to learn as much of the truth as is possible. She was my grandmother, I did attend her funeral, have photos! Our family visited Tom and Lizzie on their farm in Winterville many times. Chuck Rogers __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? U2 on LAUNCH - Exclusive greatest hits videos http://launch.yahoo.com/u2

Edna, Martha and Thomas Littleton lived in Clarke Co. That is where they are buried. They perhaps were located in Oglethorpe for a while-I have no info pertaining to that at all. Jaley and Jacob themselves lived in area considered Clarke county. Jaley ann was buried in Cherokee county, if I am recalling all of this correctly. Think that info is the Ivester Book. There is a web site for the town of Winterville for a little futher local info. In regards to those last two daughters, I have looked over the material so many times and have also asked myself the same question. Was Martha Elizabeth his child? I am very careful with this question for there are descendants of Martha who vouch for her death date-as they were present at her funeral. So I don't want to stir up a bee's nest by asking too many questions without concern of possibly hurting others! There is another answer here I am sure. And am trying not to draw too many conclusions without some futher knowledge. Wonder if Jacob fathered Eliz just before his disappearance! She could have been born after he "disappeared." One thing that we find in the records of the "other Jacob R. Gable of Jackson county. His first child born to he and Emily was before their marriage date. The family there provided that for me. Jacob could have been playing both ends against the middle, if ya know what I mean! I have not discussed this question about the two Jacob's very much with anyone other than Phillip Gable, this list, although I have mentiond the two on passing with others. I do not want to make a major issue out of it because of possible error in judgement. And that time line between 1870 and 1880 is still open to many possibilites. Nothing worong about looking for the truth, but want to be careful here. and then there is Phillip. He would like to know the truth also. Because without following this up he may never know who is Gable family really is! A rock and a hard place this is. Oh yes, Great Aunt Bess Gabrels Duncan, Jasper's sister, died just a while ago. She remembers that the younger children of Jaley Ann and Jacob went to live with relatives, after Jacob did not find his way home! I am always wondering which children lived with which relatives! I have also scouted around in the surrounding counties for all of thes connected lines. but so few later census records are available on some of the sites. I also wonder if anything was recorded in the old newspapers about Jacob disappearing? Probably not. Judy

I sure appreciated the bantering since I am one of those researching all Ivester descendants regardless of their names. My father was an Ivester, but Jaley Ann and her descendants are related to my mother' s family (McClain).. I would like to mention a couple of points, first Jaley Ann was still in Rabun County listed on the census as a widow 5 Jun 1880. This would indicate that Jacob had "disappeared" by that time, and Jasper Newton, who was about age 10 and Martha Elizabeth born 2 May 1880 are not listed with their mother. It would seem that Newt was old enough to remember his father's disappearance, if it had occured near this time. If it occurred earlier say around 1875/6 that would fit. but then who fathered Martha Elizabeth? Secondly, Jaley Ann was living with Jasper Newton in Habersham County in June 1900 per the census. She is listed with her daughter, Martha Elizabeth and Thomas Littleton Ivester in Oglethorpe County 2 May 1910. I haven't found any records yet where she lived in Clarke or Oglethorpe Counties with Jacob. Can you tell me where to look? It is certainly an intriguing thought that Jacob may have started a third family. Edna ENC6@aol.com wrote: Thanks for saying that Regina, I appreciate it. Was going to respond to Judy about how I feel about it. Here's how I figure it...... We are all on here because in some way or another we are all related to Ivester folks. Those Ivester folks married someone.... and all those someones had a name. In some cases several people of the same family married an Ivester. So... all of us are not only hunting information on Ivester's - we are hunting information on those other names as well. So.. if they are an Ivester, married an Ivester, descended from an Ivester, or even a 1st, 2nd, or 3rd spouse I figure we are still within bounds. Another thing is... if you have been doing genealogy for any length of time you know that sometimes searching aligned families helps find something on your own line. Hope everyone is comfortable with this. Thanks and take care - Emma --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? U2 on LAUNCH - Exclusive medley & videos from Greatest Hits CD

I have some Cash's in my Peace line (Louise peace married Virgil Lamar Ivester). Unfortunately, all I have are names but let me know if you think I can help. Fran

Judy - I for one do not mind all the conversation about Jacob. My feeling is - if they came from anywhere in N.E. Georgia - they're probably an Ivester somewhere. Fran

There are several great sites geared to those of us interested in this particular research. It is not an easy task, would advise visiting these sites, doing a lot of reading. There are also several mailing lists, such as this Ivester list, who deal with Cherokee and Creek research. Just type in your brower window CHEROKEE GENEALOGY and you will find may interesting ones. The bottom line is documentation. Not the kind that we are accustomed to... but similar. Prepare yourself for perhaps years of work. I too have traveled this road over the years. To no avail, I might add. similar situation with and old quilt made my Fannie Franklin and her daughters and dau. in laws. Appeared to be hand sewsn symbols on this quilt that we suspected might be clues to our heritage. Mailed a close up picture(s) to the North Carolina Cherokee nations and had it looked at by some experts. They were very kind and in a few weeks we heard back from them. They stated that only one of the designs might have been similiar, tu nothing of any proof. You might want to get a good photo or tow of your PINE NEEDLE BASKET and do the same. That sounds really good! Yes, we also found some of our surnames in many of the Cherokee rolls, but surname alone does not prove anything. One must have proof via names of ones ancestry. These mentiond sites will be more detailed and actual applications can be found on-line to print out. There are also mention of several great reference books and genealogies available that will help. and these basic books are not that expensive. There are newer publications and available in libraries and book stores. It is there that one can get a grip on the reality of things. And find a starting place. North Georgia is full of "possible Cherokee/Creek" ancestry stories. And it does not surprize me at all. I am still following my own grandmothers maternal and paternal lines because of this same situation! It may be that the "Great Spirit" allowed many of us to be brushed with tiny traces of this First American Heritage in some small way, but the many generations that have passed, left us little to go on, for many of them were forced to hide their real genetics over the years. And we may never know the real truth. Never-the-less I still feel that out of all these stories passed on to us, that perhaps one of us may find something, yet. Good luck in your search. Drop in anytime... Judy

In a message dated 11/11/2002 9:19:53 PM Central Standard Time, Famfinder2@aol.com writes: > Judy, > > I don't mind your talking about another surname or two. Been there > before myself. Anyway a lot of us like to keep all information that comes > through so we have it if we get questions outside of this mail-list on the > names, places, etc. So it may benefit someone else down the road. > > Regina > > > Thanks for saying that Regina, I appreciate it. Was going to respond to Judy about how I feel about it. Here's how I figure it...... We are all on here because in some way or another we are all related to Ivester folks. Those Ivester folks married someone.... and all those someones had a name. In some cases several people of the same family married an Ivester. So... all of us are not only hunting information on Ivester's - we are hunting information on those other names as well. So.. if they are an Ivester, married an Ivester, descended from an Ivester, or even a 1st, 2nd, or 3rd spouse I figure we are still within bounds. Another thing is... if you have been doing genealogy for any length of time you know that sometimes searching aligned families helps find something on your own line. Hope everyone is comfortable with this. Thanks and take care - Emma

Thank you, Regina. I shall try not to over-endulge on this section of my research. I just messaged Emma in orivate for some of this. When I get more of this together and documented I shall perhaps then share it. Appreciate everyones patience and Emma's interest in it all! Judy