Thank you, Edna. That confirms our family ties. We knew the Grizzles when we lived in Greenville back in the 60's but didn't know we were related. I became friends with their son Audrey (Aubrey) and we were on the local boxing team together. Audrey had attended LSU on a boxing scholarship but dropped out and joined the Army. Unfortunately, Audrey developed severe emotional and psychological problems during his military service leading to very strange behavior after his discharge. His condition worsened and eventually led to homicide and prison where he died. Audrey was a very intelligent person but he was so obsessed by what he considered to be an injustice inflicted upon him by the Army that he let it drive him over the edge. A very tragic story about a basically good family. Thanks again. Lee ----- Original Message ----- From: Edna Cole <ednaicole@yahoo.com> To: <IVESTER-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, February 21, 2003 5:46 PM Subject: Re: [IVESTER] Judge Warne Grizzle and Eva Ivester > > Correction of marriage year to 1933. > Edna Cole <ednaicole@yahoo.com> wrote:Lee and Emma (And All others who are interested) > > Eva Ivester was the daughter of Roland Wright Ivester (s/o Pinkney Alston, s/o George Jr, s/o George N., s/o Hugh) and his first wife Ida Estell Dover (d/o Jesse Dover and Susan Franklin). > She was b. 22 Dec 1910 Habersham County, GA; d. 24 Sep 1993 Greenville, Greenville, SC. She is on the Habersham County Delayed Births Index File A1656 file date 26 Aug 1944. SS# 250-10-7762 Issued SC. She married in 1933 at Greenville County, SC to Judge Warne Grizzle b. 18 Aug 1911, d. Nov 1971 SS# 251-10-0771 Issued SC > Lee she has a half sister (married to another Ivester) who lives in Charlotte, NC. > > > > --------------------------------- > Do you Yahoo!? > Yahoo! Tax Center - forms, calculators, tips, and more > > > ==== IVESTER Mailing List ==== > To unsubscribe send message to: Ivester-L-request@rootsweb.com > In the body of the message include ONLY the single word: unsubscribe > Have questions or concerns contact list administrator at > Ivester-admin@rootsweb.com > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > > > --------------------------------- > Do you Yahoo!? > Yahoo! Tax Center - forms, calculators, tips, and more > > > ==== IVESTER Mailing List ==== > To unsubscribe send message to: Ivester-L-request@rootsweb.com > In the body of the message include ONLY the single word: unsubscribe > Have questions or concerns contact list administrator at > Ivester-admin@rootsweb.com > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 >

Hi Judy, Yes, Jesse was the son of Jarrett Nelson Dover and Mary Matilda Goodson. His wife, Susan was the daughter of Jonathan Mitchell Franklin and Timley Rudeseal. Edna Jvmason@aol.com wrote:d/o Jesse Dover and Susan Franklin.... Was this Jesse Dover the son of Jarret Nelson Dover and Mary Matilda Goodson? Can we ID this, his wife, Susan Franklin? Thanks, Judy V. Mason --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Tax Center - forms, calculators, tips, and more

Correction of marriage year to 1933. Edna Cole <ednaicole@yahoo.com> wrote:Lee and Emma (And All others who are interested) Eva Ivester was the daughter of Roland Wright Ivester (s/o Pinkney Alston, s/o George Jr, s/o George N., s/o Hugh) and his first wife Ida Estell Dover (d/o Jesse Dover and Susan Franklin). She was b. 22 Dec 1910 Habersham County, GA; d. 24 Sep 1993 Greenville, Greenville, SC. She is on the Habersham County Delayed Births Index File A1656 file date 26 Aug 1944. SS# 250-10-7762 Issued SC. She married in 1933 at Greenville County, SC to Judge Warne Grizzle b. 18 Aug 1911, d. Nov 1971 SS# 251-10-0771 Issued SC Lee she has a half sister (married to another Ivester) who lives in Charlotte, NC. --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Tax Center - forms, calculators, tips, and more ==== IVESTER Mailing List ==== To unsubscribe send message to: Ivester-L-request@rootsweb.com In the body of the message include ONLY the single word: unsubscribe Have questions or concerns contact list administrator at Ivester-admin@rootsweb.com ============================== To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Tax Center - forms, calculators, tips, and more

Lee and Emma (And All others who are interested) Eva Ivester was the daughter of Roland Wright Ivester (s/o Pinkney Alston, s/o George Jr, s/o George N., s/o Hugh) and his first wife Ida Estell Dover (d/o Jesse Dover and Susan Franklin). She was b. 22 Dec 1910 Habersham County, GA; d. 24 Sep 1993 Greenville, Greenville, SC. She is on the Habersham County Delayed Births Index File A1656 file date 26 Aug 1944. SS# 250-10-7762 Issued SC. She married in 1973 at Greenville County, SC to Judge Warne Grizzle b. 18 Aug 1911, d. Nov 1971 SS# 251-10-0771 Issued SC Lee she has a half sister (married to another Ivester) who lives in Charlotte, NC. --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Tax Center - forms, calculators, tips, and more

Emma Have what looks like a contact it states This writing witnesseth that the undersigned J.F. Ivester who is now incarcerated in jail at Bloomfield, Missour, on a charge of feloniously having shot one John Fletcher, does hereby employ J.W.Farris and Geo. Munger as his attorney to defend him against said charge in the circuit court, and does hereby agree with said attorney that in the event said Ivester is put to trial on said charge and is convicted of felonious assault an sent to the pen thereon, then he shall pay to said attorneys as their fee in full the sum of two hundered dollars and in the event from cause except the death of said Ivester prior to the finaldetermination of said cause the undersign is not sent to the pententiary on this charge then he should pay to said attorneys as their fee in full for their service athe trial afore said the sum of three hundered dollars. It is hereby agree that no part of said sum shall be paid except out of the proceeds of the sale of the land now owned by the said Ivester, which said land shall be sold within a reasonable time,due diligence being used to obrtain a fair price tlhere after within a reasonable time from this date. Executed in duplicate at Bloomfield, Mo. this the 11th day of November, 1921 Signed by JF Ivester and both lawyers.

Emma, Sorry it has taken me so long to get back to you about the papers I found on Jacob F & Lena K Ivester. Finally got my new glasses after the operation just in time to start volunteer for taxes. Anyway here is what I found. Paper stating that Jacob and Lena appeared in front of attorney Thomas H. Davis Apr. 02,1920 for Lenna to relinquish and release on any such conveyance, her contingent right of dower in any and all real estate of her said husband so conveyed; and all acts and deed of said attorney, hereunder, are hereby ratified and confirmed. This paper was notarized by Francis M. Walker, Notary Public expired Dec. 19, 1923. More in next note. Ruby

Lee and Emma, Your thanks made my day. You are most welcome. Edna Lee Ivester <LeeIvester@freightliner.com> wrote:It was me, Edna. Thanks very much - I had about given up! Now I'll try to find out where Eva fits in. I'm pretty sure she was from Habersham County so I figure we are probably related. I would appreciate any further info you might come across. Regards, Lee (GGGFather Jesse A.; GGFather Jesse R.; Grandfather Leonard) Mooresville NC -----Original Message----- From: Edna Cole [mailto:ednaicole@yahoo.com] Sent: Thursday, February 20, 2003 10:15 PM To: IVESTER-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [IVESTER] Judge Warne Grizzle and Eva Ivester Hi All, Some time ago someone asked for info regarding Judge Warne Grizzle of Greenville, SC. He married Eva Ivester. I found a reference of their marriage in Greenville, SC Marriage Book 1920-1937; page 572; Lic # 1714. They were married in 1933. If you need a copy you can order it, but if you can wait for 2-3 months, I can make a copy for you and save you some money. Let me know. Sorry, I can't remember which of our Ivester men was asking. Edna --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Tax Center - forms, calculators, tips, and more

It was me, Edna. Thanks very much - I had about given up! Now I'll try to find out where Eva fits in. I'm pretty sure she was from Habersham County so I figure we are probably related. I would appreciate any further info you might come across. Regards, Lee (GGGFather Jesse A.; GGFather Jesse R.; Grandfather Leonard) Mooresville NC -----Original Message----- From: Edna Cole [mailto:ednaicole@yahoo.com] Sent: Thursday, February 20, 2003 10:15 PM To: IVESTER-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [IVESTER] Judge Warne Grizzle and Eva Ivester Hi All, Some time ago someone asked for info regarding Judge Warne Grizzle of Greenville, SC. He married Eva Ivester. I found a reference of their marriage in Greenville, SC Marriage Book 1920-1937; page 572; Lic # 1714. They were married in 1933. If you need a copy you can order it, but if you can wait for 2-3 months, I can make a copy for you and save you some money. Let me know. Sorry, I can remember which of our Ivester men was asking. Edna --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Tax Center - forms, calculators, tips, and more ==== IVESTER Mailing List ==== REMEMBER: Help save space by quoting only the relative part of the message you are replying to, not the entire message. Have questions or concerns contact list administrator at Ivester-admin@rootsweb.com ============================== To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237

In a message dated 2/21/2003 12:15:15 AM Central Standard Time, ednaicole@yahoo.com writes: Hi All, Some time ago someone asked for info regarding Judge Warne Grizzle of Greenville, SC. He married Eva Ivester. I found a reference of their marriage in Greenville, SC Marriage Book 1920-1937; page 572; Lic # 1714. They were married in 1933. If you need a copy you can order it, but if you can wait for 2-3 months, I can make a copy for you and save you some money. Let me know. Sorry, I can remember which of our Ivester men was asking. Edna Hi Edna, That is terrific. Lee is the one who was hunting that information - I have it in the need to ID file. Neat...... thanks - Emma

Hi All, Some time ago someone asked for info regarding Judge Warne Grizzle of Greenville, SC. He married Eva Ivester. I found a reference of their marriage in Greenville, SC Marriage Book 1920-1937; page 572; Lic # 1714. They were married in 1933. If you need a copy you can order it, but if you can wait for 2-3 months, I can make a copy for you and save you some money. Let me know. Sorry, I can remember which of our Ivester men was asking. Edna --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Tax Center - forms, calculators, tips, and more

In a message dated 2/13/2003 6:48:33 PM Central Standard Time, rmeasl@comcast.net writes: Not sure which Lula Pauline Ivester the ration book belongs to Ruby Hi Ruby, With the age of 14 listed, it almost has to be the daughter of Jacob W. Ivester and Suzie. Take care - Emma

In a message dated 2/11/2003 4:37:51 PM Central Standard Time, ednaicole@yahoo.com writes: > Hi Emma, > Something must have happened at Ancestry.Com to remove E.D. 67, I got > through sometime back. Here is what it showed: > 1930 Census Knox County, TN E.D.67-12B Image 24 244-244 > Thanks Edna, I guess I will let ancestry know that ED #67 has disappeared. Thanks again - Emma

Hi Emma, Something must have happened at Ancestry.Com to remove E.D. 67, I got through sometime back. Here is what it showed: 1930 Census Knox County, TN E.D.67-12B Image 24 244-244 Pless, Henry S. Head O $12,000. 72 M 30 NC NC NC Merchant Automobile Addie Wife-H 58 M 18 TN TN TN Ernest Son 38 M 29 TN NC TN Merchant Automobile Bessie D.I.L. 34 M 23 TN TN TN 245-245 Pless, Paul W. Head 27 M 21 TN NC TN Mechanic Auto Jean R. Wife-H 28 M 22 TN OH TN Paul W. Jr Son 5 S TN TN TN Robert E. Son 2 S TN TN TN Regarding the hard to read occupation on the 1910 census for Henry S. He was the President of a Book Company. I can't make out the first word which is apparently the name of the company, then "Bk. Co." The only reason I could make out any part of it was that I knew he was with a book company when they first moved to Knoxville. I think they produced school books. He had been the Superintendent of Education in Anderson County for many years. Hope this helps. Edna --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Shopping - Send Flowers for Valentine's Day

hi, Got this message. Am having a little trouble yet figuring how to use this one ----- Original Message ----- From: ENC6@aol.com Date: Monday, February 10, 2003 9:43 pm Subject: [IVESTER] Test for Ruby > Ruby - I have added you to the list under your new address. > You are still on under your old address. I won't remove it until > we know the > new one is working. > Please let me know if you receive this via your new address. > Take care - Emma > > > ==== IVESTER Mailing List ==== > Archives for all RootsWeb mail lists can be found at: > http://archiver.rootsweb.com > Have questions or concerns contact list administrator at > Ivester-admin@rootsweb.com > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy > records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > >

Ruby - I have added you to the list under your new address. You are still on under your old address. I won't remove it until we know the new one is working. Please let me know if you receive this via your new address. Take care - Emma

Not sure how she died but if I remember correctly this baby was the first one. I will try to check on this one again with Mom. Naturally she was told this by her parents so don't know if she will remember very much but will ask her about it. I will check on the information I have on that Jacob F & Lena. I have the papers where they went to a lawyer for her to give away her rights to the property for them to sell also have letter from his lawyer requesting their money for defending him. I have had cataract operation on both eyes and am to get new glasses tomorrow so will get out the letters again and look up dates when I can see better. Did you get my new e-mail address? We have got it started now just holding on to this long enough to get everything transferred to comcast.net Ruby

Hi Ruby, Jacob Foster and Elizabeth Davis had a daughter Lula M. Ivester b. Jan. 1894. Jacob W. Ivester and Suzie had a daughter Pauline Ivester b. abt 1929. Her first name could have been Lula and named after Jacob W.'s half sister. I am thinking that the ration book probably belongs to this Pauline Ivester. She would have been 14 about 1943 which would have been during WWII. And... keep going through those papers - no telling what you might find... <g> Take care - Emma In a message dated 2/9/2003 2:22:12 PM Central Standard Time, RMEASL@aol.com writes: Emma Also found something I found interesting War Ration Book No., 3 made out to Lula Pauline Ivester age 14, white, 110 pounds, 5 ft 2 lived in Dexter, Mo. there are still some stamps left. Looked for a date on it but couldn't find one. Ruby

In a message dated 2/9/2003 2:22:12 PM Central Standard Time, RMEASL@aol.com writes: > Emma > Going through the papers from Mom found a note from her stating W. B. > and > Myra also had a baby that died. She really didn't know anything else about > > it. But you remember he and Ora (my GM) had two sons that died when just > babies Hi Ruby, Since William Batten Ivester and Myra married in Aug. 1899 they quite possibly could have had other children. I show William Herbert abt 1902 Grace abt 1904 So there is sure time between 1899 and 1902 for another child. And, of course time after 1904 until Myra's death in 1908. Do you know how Myra died? Could she have died in childbirth? Take care - Emma

Hi Ruby, And now some more questions about this part of your message. Jacob Foster Ivester - son of Jacob Ivester & Nancy Massy married 3 times: 1. Francis Norman - 2 children, Ida Em July 1880 & Marion Labot 11 July 1883 2. Elizabeth Davis - 3 children: Alice L. Feb 1886, Lula M. Jan 1894, Barbara E. Sept. 1896 3. Amanda C. Neal Heflin - 1 child: Jacob W. Ivester 14 Feb 1904. Amanda then timed 25 Aug 1904 Jacob W. Ivester md a Suzie and had 2 children: Pansy May abt 1829 and Pauline abt 1929. You talk about Jacob F. Ivester and his wife Lena K. Ivester selling some land. If this is Jacob Foster Ivester do you suppose he married a 4th time? Do you know when the sale of this land took place? Now... I also found this: Ivester, Jacob vs. Lena Ivester, Decree for Pltf, Bk5, pg612, 29 Mar 1923 Ivester, John A. vs. Jane Ivester, Decree made final, BkM, pg349, 6 Mar 1889 Ivester, Susie vs. J.W. Ivester, Decree to Pltf; care & custody of minor child to Pltf, Bk13, pg386, 9 Apr 1936 We know who John A. Ivester was - he was the son of Jacob Ivester and Nancy Massy. The J. W. Ivester is Jacob W. Ivester - son of Jacob Foster Ivester and Amanda C. Neal Heflin. But which Jacob married a Lena and which Jacob was actually charged with murder.... Jacob Foster or his son Jacob W......Wild isn't it... <g> I am leaning toward Jacob Foster Ivester as the one married to a Lena and divorcing her in 1923. What do you think? Anyone else - any ideas???????? I did find that in 1945 a Jacob Ivester was convicted of "Carnal Knowledge" in Stoddard Co., Mo and sentenced to 10 years in the "pen". I am rather figuring that was Jacob W. Ivester, the son. Oh... Jacob W. Ivester - the son of Jacob Foster Ivester was apparently known as Jake. I have not found Jacob Foster or any of his family in the 1920 census. Has anyone else?????? Thanks - Emma In a message dated 2/9/2003 2:10:33 PM Central Standard Time, RMEASL@aol.com writes: . I have been going through some old papers Mom gave me of grand dad it shows he was administrator of his father's John A. Ivester. It has all kinds of quick deeds and things in it. Has papers showing Jacob F. Ivester and wife Lena K. Ivester selling their land to paid for his trial. He shot a John Fletcher he employed a J. W. Farris and Geo. Munger as his attorney. Don't know if he went to jail or not. Mom has always told me about Barbara Ivester Eason having a brother name Jake that was in the Pen for killing a man which if I remember correctly was a Doctor (not sure of that). Don't know if Jacob and Jake or the same or not.

Ruby, Thanks so much for the info. It sure looks as if has to be in California somewhere. One question - Is the Uncle George who bought a garage an Ivester uncle or a Howell uncle or ????? Thanks again and take care - Emma In a message dated 2/9/2003 2:10:33 PM Central Standard Time, RMEASL@aol.com writes: Hi Emma, Yes Aunt Grace had two daughters Judith Frances and Mary Jo they are both from her first marriage. Anthony (Tony)Cataldo. You asked if I had found his son W. H. in the 1930 records I have not but found a letter from Pacific Fire Insurance Co., New York dated Jan. 23, 1931 from a Dixwell Davenport, Mgr. San Francisco, CA stating W.H. had been in his employment for the past sixteen months as a chauffeur. He was giving him a good reference so he must have been in San Francisco in 1930. Have a card from Brotherhood of Railway and Steamship Clerks made out to William H. Ivester good until June 30, 1924 on the back is stamped Bakersfield Lodge No. 45. Also have a Western Union Telegram to W. H. Ivester, 2178 Newton Ave. San Diego California from his Uncle George offering him a job in a garage that George had purchased it is dated Apr. 3, 1926