I don't personally think this is the same George Ivester. Peters' son was my g-g-grandfather and his son Charlie had no sisters with these names, according to my grandfather. Tresa M. Dyer -----Original Message----- From: ENC6@aol.com [mailto:ENC6@aol.com] Sent: Wednesday, October 30, 2002 10:35 PM To: IVESTER-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [IVESTER] Does anyone know who this is???? husband - George Ivester of Farmington daug. - Verla M. LaPlant of Piedmont daug. - Delores F. Green of Nashville, Tenn. Is this by any chance the wife of George Ivester who was the son of Peter Thomas Ivester and Mary Minnie Thompson??????

In a message dated 10/31/2002 1:01:46 AM Eastern Standard Time, IVESTER-D-request@rootsweb.com writes: > genealogy software. Thanks to all of you for your information and comments! I guess to avoid loss, we could copy our current info on a disk and then import the data from one program to another. I also have an issue with the FTM MERGE as I feel sometimes things are lost in the process. I will check out the PAF also. Sounds like most of you liked that one. Thanks again for all the great info! Gayle

In a message dated 10/30/2002 10:53:22 PM Central Standard Time, Dazyy5@aol.com writes: > Thanks, Emma. I don't want you to go thru all that trouble right now. I > need to wait until I get a new computer (the memory on mine is as saturated > > as my own). > No problem Fran, Just let me know when you are ready..... and have fun - take care - Emma

Hi Everyone, Ancestral File database on the LDS site shows a Lula Nola Ivester b. abt in 1890 in Jack Co., Texas and who married on Oct. 4, 1928 to John Floyd Simpson. John Floys Simpson died Jan. 6, 1959 in Springerville, Apache Co., Arizona. This is the same time period that my Ivester's were in Jack Co., but she does not belong to them. Anyone got any ideas who she is???? Take care - Emma

Thanks, Emma. I don't want you to go thru all that trouble right now. I need to wait until I get a new computer (the memory on mine is as saturated as my own). That will be awhile so, in the meantime, I'll just plug along with FTM. Actually, now that I've learned more about it, it's working quite well. It is much more user-friendly than I am a "friendly user." And certainly faster than my brain works. Thanks for the offer. Fran

Hi Everyone, Found information on a James Donald Kinnison who married a Charlene Ivester. This info. was on the Wayne Co., Missouri board. Any idea whose daughter she was???? Thanks - Emma

The Daily Journal - Flat River, St. Francois Co., Mo - Thurs. Jan. 4, 1990, pg. 2 Bertha Ivester Bertha M. Ivester, 80, of Farmington died Jan. 3 at Farmington Regional Medical Center. she was born Sept. 27, 1909 in Annapolis to the lade Edward E. and Nora Lewis Sutton. She was preceded in death by one daughter, Helen Louise Ivester, two brothers and five sisters. husband - George Ivester of Farmington daug. - Verla M. LaPlant of Piedmont daug. - Delores F. Green of Nashville, Tenn. Is this by any chance the wife of George Ivester who was the son of Peter Thomas Ivester and Mary Minnie Thompson?????? Thanks all - Emma

In a message dated 10/30/2002 11:01:45 AM Central Standard Time, Dazyy5@aol.com writes: > Emma, - Where do you get the CD for PAF? Can we transfer our FTM files once > > we load PAF? > > Fran > > > Hi Fran, The easiest way is to just call their toll free number 1-800-537-5971 The latest version is PAF 5.2.18.0 And I believe the order number is 77034999 But... you can just tell them what you want. I think the CD is $6.00. As for concerns in converting a FTM file to PAF I need some more information. I need to know what version of FTM you have. Then I can find out what you would need to do. I also need to know how extensively you have used the notes fields in FTM as I know that also makes a difference. So.. send my your version number and I will get you some information. Take care - Emma

I don't know. John Fahland ENC6@aol.com wrote: > Hi Everyone, > Found information on a James Donald Kinnison who married a Charlene Ivester. > This info. was on the Wayne Co., Missouri board. Any idea whose daughter she > was???? > Thanks - Emma > > ==== IVESTER Mailing List ==== > To unsubscribe send message to: Ivester-L-request@rootsweb.com > In the body of the message include ONLY the single word: unsubscribe > Have questions or concerns contact list administrator at > Ivester-admin@rootsweb.com > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237

Emma, - Where do you get the CD for PAF? Can we transfer our FTM files once we load PAF? Fran

In a message dated 10/30/02 9:28:17 AM Central Standard Time, Jvmason@aol.com writes: > The last and most important key, is using a program that offers real help > when one needs it! Like a toll free number. One can spend a fortune > trying > to get answers out of Family Tree Maker consultants! At least that was > true > a few years ago. > > Judy, Re this last comment - are you ever right - user support is so important. So far I have had good luck with PAF in that respect but.... the most helpful thing is that there is a PAF mail list. Folks involved in the programming for PAF monitor that mail list and provide help. Users also help each other and for the most part it works very well to provide quality support. Perhaps there is a mail list for FTM as well. Take care - Emma (goofing off at work....<g>)

Over the years I have learned that no one software program is perfect. Each of them appears to have its drawbacks/good qualities. One of my more computor experiended friends uses three different programs in order to meet all of his needs. He uses FTM, Brothers Keeper and one other to saosify his needs. Guess one needs to sit down with a friend who has each of the programs and just "mess around" with it to become familiar with the different characteristics of each program. I too have played with the idea of using two, but it requires a great deal space. I use an older version of FTM and it does the job ok. I have a few complaints myself, but then I sometimes think that the user is the problem! Perhaps the newer versions have improved, am certain that someone on this list probably can fill you in on that. PAF I have a copy of, but it supposed to be easier program as it is quite interchangable with other software, but I do not have the heart to try and switch. With almost 19,00 folks in my present database it is not worh the possibility of loosing any materal. That would be the ruin of over 35 years of work. So check them all out first because once you began it is the devil to sometimes switch! My two main complaints with my version of FTM is the fact that one cannot print out a list of ALL the individuals in an index form. And that the MERGE function takes a great deal of knowledge to use without loosing information. So to speak, you have become familiar with what the word MERGE really means. I purchased a book which FRM published that offers more details on using the software. I too would love to hear from others about the newer version of FTM. Is it really better, or have they just added some more usless/fancey funtions for us to play with. The last and most important key, is using a program that offers real help when one needs it! Like a toll free number. One can spend a fortune trying to get answers out of Family Tree Maker consultants! At least that was true a few years ago. Yes, folks send us some feedback on your ideas! Judy

I am using the PAF 5 and find it extremely useful. I got it free off of the Familysearch.org under download. I also downloaded a Genviewer (this is what it is called on the website) which will let me open GED files. I got it off of a website called ZDNet.com. It may take a while to download these, I don't remember how long it took me to download. I like the idea of buying the CD but didn't have the patience to wait to get it. Once I get going I don't like to stop, unfortunately, I had sore hands the next day because I set here and typed in 348 names and their info before I realized that I had been sitting here for about 4 hours straight. LOL Hope this helps some. Regina

In a message dated 10/30/2002 7:25:02 AM Central Standard Time, Agesinc@aol.com writes: > I sure would like other opinions about the pros and cons of the different > genealogy software. I am currently using FTM and was thinking of upgrading > to > the new version 10, however, I would like other opinions about other > software > and if there is a better program available. Some of you mentioned > downloading > PT > > > Sorry Gayle, I forgot to explain that I am the one who does not deal with Gedcom very well - either creating or converting. It very well might be my limited mental capacity when it comes to those kind of things but they have dealt me more trouble over the years. Thanks and take care - Emma

I use FTM only to access the cds I've bought. I have a Mac and use a program named Reunion...the IBM version is 'Generations'. Absolutely a wonderful and inexpensive program! You have so many good options in the customizing your tree and the notes section on a person is fantastic! When you pull up a person...you see on your screen them and their spouse..all the children and also both sets of parents! If anyone wants a screen shot as to how this looks, let me know and I will send you one! This program is under $40. Ruth >I sure would like other opinions about the pros and cons of the different >genealogy software. I am currently using FTM and was thinking of upgrading to >the new version 10, however, I would like other opinions about other software >and if there is a better program available. Some of you mentioned downloading >PT > > >Regards, >Gayle Blackerby >AGES Productions, Inc. >Phone: 919-518-1171 >Fax: 919-518-1172 > > > >==== IVESTER Mailing List ==== >Archives for all RootsWeb mail lists can be found at: >http://archiver.rootsweb.com >Have questions or concerns contact list administrator at >Ivester-admin@rootsweb.com > >============================== >To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy >records, go to: >http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 -- Whenever I feel blue, I start breathing again.

In a message dated 10/30/2002 7:25:02 AM Central Standard Time, Agesinc@aol.com writes: > I sure would like other opinions about the pros and cons of the different > genealogy software. I am currently using FTM and was thinking of upgrading > to > the new version 10, however, I would like other opinions about other > software > and if there is a better program available. Some of you mentioned > downloading > PT > > > Hi Gayle, That question usually gets lots of different answers.... <g>. It seems as if folks really get emotional about their software.... me included... <giggle>. But.. here goes. Went to a conference about 18 months ago where they had several sections on software. The three top rated were PAF, The Master Genealogist, and Legacy. The Master Genealogist is very good and expensive and a very high learning curve. Legacy is much less expensive and also very good . PAF is free to download and very inexpensive to purchase on CD (I think it is $6.00 or something like that now) and also very good. I am definitely anti FTM but..... that's just my opinion. Part of my frustration with it is that it seems to be less friendly than some of the others when it comes to sharing via gedcom with other programs. They also seem to do a lot of upgrades all of which you have to pay for. And.. I am very pro PAF because for the cost you just can't get a better program. It has functions equal to The Master Genealogist which costs around $100.00 (last time I looked). But then again I started out with PAF back with version 1 in the early 1980's. TMG does seem to have it over the others in that if anyone sends you a data file created by almost anyother genealogy program it can convert it to a TMG file. They have to send you the actual data file - not a gedcom though. TMG also gives you updates free for a year I think???? I actually own all three of the above - TMG, PAF, and Legacy. I use PAF for my actual database and use TMG to convert someone else's file and don't use Legacy at all... <g>. If you go PAF though I would suggest that you purchase the CD rather than do the download. That way you have it if you need to reload. It also makes it handy to put on several computers. I have it loaded on 3 different computers. Also.. sometimes strange things can happen in a download. There are some sites out there that compare and rate the various software. When I get home tonight I will try to find them and send them for you. Now.. am anxious to see how others feel. Take care - Emma

I sure would like other opinions about the pros and cons of the different genealogy software. I am currently using FTM and was thinking of upgrading to the new version 10, however, I would like other opinions about other software and if there is a better program available. Some of you mentioned downloading PT Regards, Gayle Blackerby AGES Productions, Inc. Phone: 919-518-1171 Fax: 919-518-1172

Inez Cobb Messer Inez Cobb Messer, 48, of 1624 Beech St., died Monday, Nov. 19, 2001, at Spartanburg Regional Medical Center. Born in Cherokee County, she was a daughter of the late David Freeman and Willie Marie Ivester Cobb. Member: Cherokee Falls Missionary Fellowship Church. Survivors: Husband, Tommie L. Messer; a daughter, Stacey Turner, of Blacksburg; a sister, Valerie Cobb; brothers, Nefford, Jack, Olin, Frank and Robert Cobb; and three grandchildren. Visitation: 7 to 9 p.m. Thursday at Shuford-Hatcher Funeral Home. Service: 2 p.m. Friday at Cherokee Falls Missionary Fellowship Church. Burial: Frederick Memorial Gardens. At the present time, I do not know how the family of Inez fits into the Messer lineage. Any help will be appreciated in identifying this family.

Hi Edna, Just to recap this one.... we now have them in the following census: 1880 - Clarkesville, Habersham Co., Georgia ED #128, pg. 617A - image 13 1900 - clarkesville, Habersham Co., Georgia - ED #61 - pg. 5B - image 10 1920 - Clarkesville, Habersham Co., Georgia - ED #83 - pg. 11B - imabe 22 And Mary is shown as living with them in all 3 of these. So.. now we just need to find the 1910 and the 1930.... Ok... onward and upward... <g>. Thanks and take care - Emma In a message dated 10/21/2002 5:45:29 PM Central Daylight Time, ednaicole@yahoo.com writes: > Emma, Sorry it is E.D. 61- 5B &6A. I didn't have the 1880 census. When I > looked it up, I noticed that there was a James M. and Harriett Ramsey on > the same page who are probably John's parents. Also, listed on the page > Nancy A. Roberts with her daughter Nancy J. who married Jessie Richard > Ivester. > Edna > ENC6@aol.com wrote:In a message dated 10/20/2002 9:00:17 PM Central > Daylight Time, > ednaicole@yahoo.com writes: > > > > Emma, > > I found a Mary Fry on the 1910 Habersham County, Ga census. E.D. 39 - 5B& > > 6A Clarkesville Twp. She is listed as mother-in-law living with John > > Ramsey and her daughter Georgia and their children Marvin, Henry, and > Cora. > > I believe that she is the wife of Henry Fry (s/o Barbara Ivester and > David > > Fry) who died in Knoxville,TN 18 July 1862 in the WBTS.; This would be a > > second daughter for them. The ages fit and birth places of Mary and her > > parents are correct? What do you think? Is there anyone in our group >

Hi Edna, No... no luck finding them in the 1920 census yet. I tried every combination, spelling, and angle I could think of with the indexes. I guess this is another one of those page by page deals..... <g>. Thanks again and take care - Emma In a message dated 10/21/2002 8:11:38 PM Central Daylight Time, ednaicole@yahoo.com writes: > Emma, > Emma Louvenia (Ivester) Holbrook died 29 April 1949 per the Georgia > Deaths Index D/C# 17293 at the age of 71 in Habersham County, Ga. On the > surname of Holbrook(s) I am not sure if it should have an "s" or not, > however, both Louvenia's and Alexander's (D/C32801 d.29 Dec 1957 Habersham > County age 83) death certificates show Holbrook, no s. As to your > question "Who is Wallace Moorland?" I believe the census may read > "Cleveland, Wallace 12" not that that answers which of the daughters was > his mother. My opinion is that it was more likely Susie based on the ages > of the 2 daughters. > 1880 Census Habersham 422 District (Deep Creek) ED130-40 Image 40 Holbrook, > W I and Annie parents of Alexander. > 1900 Census Habersham Deep Creek ED62-5A > 1910 Census Habersham Deep Creek ED72-7A > 1920 Census not found do you have it? > Edna >