Thanks for the advice!! I've never done this before, so... Here is what I know: 1) Jim R. Crow born approx. 1870-1875 m. unknown children: 2)John Irving Crow born approx 1890-1895 m. Martha Mary White born 1895 (MO) [parents: Dan White and Sara (Saria) Raleigh (Riley)] children: 3) Stonie Nida Crow (Herpich) (OK) born 1914 m. Mary Maxine Christensen (CA) born 1919 children: 4) Tansy Herpich (CA) born 1936 4) Leilani R. Herpich (CA) born 1938 4) Karen L. Herpich (CA) born 1940(?) Note: at 2) it is told that John Irving Crow was killed or died, but we don't know when. (I have a letter that was sent to John Irving Crow in Colorado dated 1924, however!) Martha Mary (White) Crow was then married to Frederick Herpick but they had no children. There may have been other children between John I. Crow and Martha M. Crow, but we don't know for sure. Likewise for Jim R. Crow. I know that there is a Joseph M. Crow, but I am unsure as to whether he was Stonie's brother or possibly an uncle...? Did all of that make any sense!!!??? I hope so, because I'm a novice at this whole geneology thing, and I've been getting nowhere. Any help is appreciated! Karen "Real isn't how you are made, it's a thing that happens to you...It doesn't happen all at once. It takes a long time. That's why it doesn't often happen to people who break easily, or have sharp edges, or who have to be carefully kept." -Margery Williams, The Velveteen Rabbit