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For Samuel and Sandi: Thanks for your answers. I have looked the letter over and there were no names to refer to. I am sure there is a connection but I don't know what it is. My mother is 93 her brother is 96 this month. Both are children again and only at certain times will they elaborate about family or friends back in Yell County. They left when Alta was 8 and Ed was 12. This is the letter written by my g-grandfather David Alexander Robinson. a 1 Verden ok June 19, 1911 Dear brother and family I rite you a few lines to let you no how I am I am not well I have been sick ever sens I bin out here the water Dont a gree with me it keeps me sik all the time I will haft to leave this plase purty soon (b 2) I Dont no when it will bee we are thinken of goin back to mo as soon I git beter Ike is wanten me to go fi I go I will let you no before I go rite soon and let me no how you all are giten long how all the sick Peple ar who is deade Sens I left Down ther I got letter from home this moring tha Diden say eney thing a bout eney one els but ther selfs ( c 3 ) wel T B this is the Purtes farming county I ever seen but that ant all they is some Disaraigz that I deant like and gess you wood be giss lik me the hot wind bloss so hot that it has cooked the corn till it is as whit in the top as if had ben cut and ........ in the son we had a Rain a saturday Night but I think is most too late yo help the corn very much it Raind and hald and wind bload till I thot I haft to go to the storm has but Dident go a little longer I wood tuck to hole (d 4 ) well Bell I wood be glad you wood send me a glass of buter milk I wood Deather have that than eney thing that I can! thick of now well Bell anser this soon as I mite be gon so I will close Good by. All the balins (lealins) is well as casnely (cannby) D A . I J . Robinson to all te Famely Bell send Ida word how I and Ike have eney more than I was when Roter her i am sill Belle aken ********** This is exactly as the letter was written. David Alexander Robinson, my g-grandfather, wrote the letter and included his brothers name, I.J.(Ike--Isaac J.) along with his D.A. at the end. Ida was his daughter, home was Birta. This letter was sent to his brother Thomas Benton T.B. and wife Belle in Birta, Yell County, AR in 1911 I can't find a picture of the McVey's so I guess my imagination thought so, but perhaps I just have not found it. When next I visit my uncle it may be a good day for him and he will tell me about the McVey's. The only place my family would have known them would have been Birta, Rover and Dardanelle in Yell County or in Murray County, Ok or at Red Oak, in the Choctaw. I will put you in my address book and if ever I find something I will contact you. Good luck. Sorry I could not help. Armenta.....

Thank you very much for the copy of the letter and the other information. I cannot see any connections either but there is a few names and places for me to look. My father's family lived just inside Yell County and my mother's family lived just inside Logan County. In fact dad bought their marriage license in Logan County but got married over in Havana in Yell County. Would appreciate if you do come upon information that might connect me with someone to shout at me. I'll keep this information and maybe some day I"ll be able to tie it into someone. Many thanks. Samuel Weldon 9344 Lait Dr. El Paso, TX. 79925-6639 915-592-6935 [email protected] http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~weldonfamily ----- Original Message ----- From: "armenta" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, April 08, 2001 3:56 PM Subject: [IT-INDIAN] The McVey's > For Samuel and Sandi: > > Thanks for your answers. I have looked the letter over and there were no names to refer to. I am sure there is a connection but I don't know what it is. My mother is 93 her brother is 96 this month. Both are children again and only at certain times will they elaborate about family or friends back in Yell County. They left when Alta was 8 and Ed was 12. > > This is the letter written by my g-grandfather David Alexander Robinson. > > a 1 > Verden ok > June 19, 1911 > > Dear brother and family I rite you a few lines to let you no how I am I am not well I have been sick ever sens I bin out here the water Dont a gree with me it keeps me sik all the time I will haft to leave this plase purty soon (b 2)

I would like very much to hear from the man and exchange information though I have very little on the McVey part of my family. According to the information on their headstone they was married in 1877 in IT, I've not found their marriage license yet but my grand father was born in 1878 in IT. According to that same headstone Grandma Mollie was only eleven years old when her and Grandpa Jerry married but according to census records she was fifteen. When I was growing up in Baldwyn, MS. there was a family Rube and Idera McVey that lived there and we always called them Uncle and Aunt but when I was a youngster all family friends was Uncle and Aunt and others was Mr. and Mrs., that was the way my parents raised us. When I got interested in Genealogy in the early 60's I ask mom about it and she said we was related but she wasn't sure how. The McVey kids left said no until we got down their family bible to look and see who was recorded in it. Grandma Mollie name wasn't in there but a copy of her obit was so then no one was sure of anything. Mom always said grandma Mollie was an orphan and did not have any parents. I know the Sheppard/Shepard family moved from Sevier County, AR. after the 1860 census to IT around Tishomingo. I do not know if they was Native American or not, one of my gUncles applied for citizenship on the Daws Rolls but was turned down. In 1887 Grandpa Jeramiah moved back to Logan County, AR. In 1888 he bought some land there and in the write-up by the lawyer his name was changed from Jeramiah to Jerry Miah and that is what is on his headstone in Yell County, AR. I am going to keep you message with all these names though none mean anything to me yet I'll have a place and some names to look at. Many thanks for all information you have supplied and any other contacts I may make. Samuel Weldon 9344 Lait Dr. El Paso, TX. 79925-6639 915-592-6935 [email protected] http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~weldonfamily ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, April 07, 2001 10:01 PM Subject: Re: [IT-INDIAN] McVEY & SHEPPARD In a message dated 4/7/01 6:50:23 PM, [email protected] writes: << Please answer me so that I know who I am writing to. I don't know any history about the McVeys but I think I have a picture of "The McVey's" stashed some place. I will look.

Hi List, My brick wall(s) is/are------------- #1 - Gg-grandfather Joe (Joseph?) RIDENS (RIDINGS?) - no further info. #2 - Benjamin Franklin "Frank" RIDENS - b. 1851 in TN., d. 1932 in OK, m. Georgia E-STER (ESTER-EASTER?) - children Docia (b. 1872), Joseph (b. 1878), and B. F. "Frank" [Jr.] (b.1880), all in/around Hamilton Co., TX. Fourth child, Arthur Robert b. 1882 in either OK. or TX. #3 - Georgia E-STER (ESTER, EASTER), info above, was possibly a full blood Native American of unk tribe. A new family story that just surfaced, however, is that the RIDENS (RIDINGS) were of Native American blood, and that Georgia E-STER was of German descent. I sure hope this reaches someone who can help, as I have a terrible headache from butting against this barrier. Any/all info and/or leads will be greatly appreciated. All take care, and stay safe and well. Don Hutchins

In a message dated 4/7/01 6:50:23 PM, [email protected] writes: << Please answer me so that I know who I am writing to. I don't know any history about the McVeys but I think I have a picture of "The McVey's" stashed some place. I will look. Armenta................ >> Armenta: These are the McVEY names I have from the Verden Cemetery: McVEY, Evert Clyde, 3 Feb 1884 - 25 Sep 1912 McVEY, George Cleve, 27 AUG 1910 - 24 OCT 1966 (S/O Grover Cleveland “Cleve” & Helen Garwood [ROSE] McVey, B/O Virginia [McVEY] Gooden & Mary Marjorie [McVEY] Pace) McVEY, George Madison [M.D.], 14 Oct 1882 - 2 Feb 1978 (H/O Minnie Bell [JONES] McVey, F/O John A. McVey & Mabel [McVEY] Woodall, S/O John C. & Amelia Jane “Jennie” [VAUGHN] McVey) McVEY, Grover Cleveland “Cleve”, 4 Jun1885 - 5 Feb 1962 (H/O Helen Garwood [ROSE] McVey, M 26 Oct 1909, F/O George McVey, Mary Marjorie [McVEY] Pace & Virginia [McVEY] Gooden, S/O John C. & Amelia Jane “Jennie” [VAUGHN McVey, B/O George Madison (M. D.), Sid, R. C., & John C. McVey) McVEY, Helen Garwood [ROSE], 1 Jan 1887 - 12 Nov 1972 (W/O Grover Cleveland McVey, D/O Lt. George & Hattie [WEIR] Rose Lay) McVEY, Inez J. [NICHOLS], 9 Sep 1913 - 23 Sep 1986 (SS & W/O John Arthur McVey, M 7 Oct 1937, M/O George, John D. & Stephen McVey, Mary [McVEY) Warbuton & Janie [McVEY)] Thomas, D/O Louis Carroll & Hannah [STRICKLAND] Nichols) McVEY, John Arthur, 19 Jul 1908 - 18 Jan 1985 (SS & H/O Inez J. [NICHOLS] McVey, F/O George, John D. & Stephen McVey, Mary [McVEY) Warbuton & Janie [McVEY)] Thomas, S/O George Madison & Minnie Bell [JONES] McVey) McVEY, John C. “Uncle Johnnie”, 16 Nov 1857 - 7 Dec 1941 (H/O Amelia Jane [VAUGHN] McVey, M 1888, F/O George M. (M.D.), Everet C., Grover C., Albert S., Richard C., John B. & Evert C. McVey) McVEY, Minnie Bell [JONES], 17 Apr 1881 - 1 Oct 1953 (W/O George Madison McVey, M. D., M/O John A. McVey & Mabel [McVEY] Woodall) Part of my family settled in the Verden area well before 1900. My GG grandaddy on one side was Black Beaver, chief of the Delaware tribe. His daughter, Lucy, married my G granddaddy, Elihu Burgin Osburn. Elihu changed the spelling of Osburn to Osborn. He was from Ohio and was in the Union Army during that terrible Civil War. He was killed by Native Americans when they were on the war path and his wife, Lucy, 100% Delaware, told him not to try and stop them. He was friends with them and didn't understand that they were hopped up to go out and kill white people. They were sorry, after the fact. Long story. His son, my granddaddy, Jonathan Richard Osborn, changed the spelling from Osborn to Osborne. This obit, and other McVey obits can be viewed on this site. Just put in the McVey name and do a search. http://cgi.rootsweb.com/~genbbs/genbbs.cgi/USA/Ok/GradyObits The Verden News December 12, 1941 John C. McVey was born November 16, 1857 in Knox County, Kentucky and passed away December 7, 1941 at the home of his son, John B. McVey near Anadarko, Oklahoma at the age of 84 years and 21 days. Brother McVey was united in marriage to Amelia Jane Vaughn in 1880 at Jellico, Tennessee. To this union was born six sons: Dr. George M.; Everet C.; Grover C.; Albert S.; Richard C.; and John B. and Everet C. preceded him in death in 1912 and his wife preceded him in death in 1930. Brother McVey moved to Oklahoma with his family in the year 1907 and located in Verden, at which place he has made his home since. He joined the Masonic Lodge in Williamsburg, Ky. and was an honorary member of the Verden Lodge at the time of his death. Brother McVey was a member of the First Baptist church of Verden. He has been a member of the Missionary Baptist church for more than fifty years. He leaves to mourn his departure five sons, ten grandchildren, nine great grandchildren and a host of relatives and friends. I am in email touch with a McVey in Verden and we've shared a lot of information. Actually, this man owns the land where once my GG granduncle, William Garrard WILLIAMS, had the famous Half Moon Ranch. I will be more than happy to email this man to see if he'd like to email with you! So, let us hear from you! This, to me, is amazing! Hope we find more Verden connections. I think I'm related to just about everyone who is still living in that tiny place. Best, Sandi Carter

My brick wall is my maternal grandmother MARY ELISABETH BURTON born ADAIR COUNTY KENTUCKY in 1880. She has Indian blood but finding her family is a HUGH brickwall. I have a hand written note from 1898 , it was to verify her age of eighteen to be married. The note was signed by a JAMES W. BURTON who was living in Russell County Ky , this could be her grandfather or uncle, I am not sure. The note stated that both of her parents died when she was very young and her mothers name was LOUISIA. My aunt by marriage left a note that was found at her death and it stated that my grandmothers father was a LOVELESS. This all the information I have. Bonnie

I just have to answer this message. In 1911 my great-grandfather David Alexander Robinson wrote a letter from Verden, Oklahoma to his brother Isaac J. Robinson who resided at the time in MO. They were from TN then Yell County, AR. My grandmother D.A. Robinson's daughter, Ida Jane, was born in Birta, Yell County, AR in 1882 as was my mother in 1908. Ida married William Noel Hale. I have heard my family speak of the McVey's but I did not connect with this until you used McVey and Verden, OK and Yell County, AR together. I will pull out the letter and see if he used names you mention and write again. Give me a day or two. Please answer me so that I know who I am writing to. I don't know any history about the McVeys but I think I have a picture of "The McVey's" stashed some place. I will look. Armenta................ ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: April 07, 2001 6:47 PM Subject: [IT-INDIAN] McVEY & SHEPPARD > In a message dated 4/7/01 1:38:45 PM, [email protected] writes: > > << Jeramiah or Jerry Miah spelled both ways on > > different documents married on 17 Oct 1877 in IT to Mary (Mollie) McVey b > > 1866 headstone date census date 1861 d 21 Dec 1917 Yell County, AR. >> > > Samuel: > > In your message the name McVEY caught my eye. I don't know if there might be > a family connection, but there have been McVEYs around Verden, Grady CO, OK > for at least 100 years now. > > Also, I looked at the Verden Cemetery list and came up with one SHEPPARD > buried there. There are a number of MCVEYs there. > > SHEPPARD, John Thomas, 4 Mar 1893 - 15 Jan 1968 > (Unmarked grave, H/O Sally Sheppard, S/O Thompson & Sarah Sheppard) > > Its a long shot but maybe there is a connection to your McVEY/SHEPPARD family. > > Best, Sandi Carter > > > ============================== > Visit Ancestry.com for a FREE 14-Day Trial and enjoy access to the #1 > Source for Family History Online. Go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/subscribe/subscribetrial1y.asp?sourcecode=F11HB > >

They Mollie McVey I speak of is my great grand mother. I have no information on the McVeys as the oral history I received was she was an orphan. After her and Jeramiah married in 1886 they moved back to AR. Logan County. There is a place known today as Shepard Hill. Any information or anyplace I can look for information on any of these people would be appreciated. Samuel Weldon 9344 Lait Dr. El Paso, TX. 79925-6639 915-592-6935 [email protected] http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~weldonfamily ----- Original Message ----- From: "armenta" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, April 07, 2001 8:02 PM Subject: Re: [IT-INDIAN] McVEY & SHEPPARD > I just have to answer this message. In 1911 my great-grandfather David > Alexander Robinson wrote a letter from Verden, Oklahoma to his brother Isaac > J. Robinson who resided at the time in MO. They were from TN then Yell > County, AR. My grandmother D.A. Robinson's daughter, Ida Jane, was born in > Birta, Yell County, AR in 1882 as was my mother in 1908. Ida married William > Noel Hale. I have heard my family speak of the McVey's but I did not connect > with this until you used McVey and Verden, OK and Yell County, AR together. > I will pull out the letter and see if he used names you mention and write > again. Give me a day or two. Please answer me so that I know who I am > writing to. I don't know any history about the McVeys but I think I have a > picture of "The McVey's" stashed some place. I will look. > > Armenta................ > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: April 07, 2001 6:47 PM > Subject: [IT-INDIAN] McVEY & SHEPPARD > > > > In a message dated 4/7/01 1:38:45 PM, [email protected] writes: > > > > << Jeramiah or Jerry Miah spelled both ways on > > > > different documents married on 17 Oct 1877 in IT to Mary (Mollie) McVey b > > > > 1866 headstone date census date 1861 d 21 Dec 1917 Yell County, AR. >> > > > > Samuel: > > > > In your message the name McVEY caught my eye. I don't know if there might > be > > a family connection, but there have been McVEYs around Verden, Grady CO, > OK > > for at least 100 years now. > > > > Also, I looked at the Verden Cemetery list and came up with one SHEPPARD > > buried there. There are a number of MCVEYs there. > > > > SHEPPARD, John Thomas, 4 Mar 1893 - 15 Jan 1968 > > (Unmarked grave, H/O Sally Sheppard, S/O Thompson & Sarah Sheppard) > > > > Its a long shot but maybe there is a connection to your McVEY/SHEPPARD > family. > > > > Best, Sandi Carter > > > > > > ============================== > > Visit Ancestry.com for a FREE 14-Day Trial and enjoy access to the #1 > > Source for Family History Online. Go to: > > http://www.ancestry.com/subscribe/subscribetrial1y.asp?sourcecode=F11HB > > > > > > > ============================== > Shop Ancestry - Everything you need to Discover, Preserve & Celebrate > your heritage! > http://shop.myfamily.com/ancestrycatalog > >

In a message dated 4/7/01 1:38:45 PM, [email protected] writes: << Jeramiah or Jerry Miah spelled both ways on different documents married on 17 Oct 1877 in IT to Mary (Mollie) McVey b 1866 headstone date census date 1861 d 21 Dec 1917 Yell County, AR. >> Samuel: In your message the name McVEY caught my eye. I don't know if there might be a family connection, but there have been McVEYs around Verden, Grady CO, OK for at least 100 years now. Also, I looked at the Verden Cemetery list and came up with one SHEPPARD buried there. There are a number of MCVEYs there. SHEPPARD, John Thomas, 4 Mar 1893 - 15 Jan 1968 (Unmarked grave, H/O Sally Sheppard, S/O Thompson & Sarah Sheppard) Its a long shot but maybe there is a connection to your McVEY/SHEPPARD family. Best, Sandi Carter

Am looking for information on the following family: Edward N. SHEPPARD b abt 1815 in AL. married 25 Apr 1848 in Sevier County, AR. to Sara Jane Johnston b abt 1830 in IL. They had the following children: Jeramiah ( Jerry Miah) b 9 Feb 1851 Sevier County, AR. d 21 Mar 1921 Yell County, AR. John Benjamin b 1854 Sevier County, AR. Mary b 1856 Sevier County, AR. Henry (Harry) Edward b 22 Mar 1857 Sevier County, AR. d 17 Jan 1931 Johnston County, OK. James William b 1859 Sevier County, AR. This family left Sevier County, AR. after the 1860 census and moved to IT just south of Tishomingo. Jeramiah or Jerry Miah spelled both ways on different documents married on 17 Oct 1877 in IT to Mary (Mollie) McVey b 1866 headstone date census date 1861 d 21 Dec 1917 Yell County, AR. Benjamin married about 1888 to a lady named Addie b Mar 1869 in TX. Henry or Harry Edward married 7 Oct 1876 in IT to Mary Ann Gardner b 15 Nov 1852 Cuyahoga County, OH. d 28 Apr 1898 Johnston County, IT. Second marriage maybe to an Indian Lady. It is unknown if they was married or just a common law relationship. They Lady bore Henry/Harry a son born May 1905 she died May, Jun, or Jul 1906 in Tishomingo. The son name was Hester B. Sheppard. Harry's third marriage was to Polly Irene Cleveland in 1905 in Yell County, AR. Any information on any of these people would be greatly appreciated or if someone knows where I might locate some information on them my email address is in my signature block. Many thanks. Samuel Weldon 9344 Lait Dr. El Paso, TX. 79925-6639 915-592-6935 [email protected] http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~weldonfamily

My brick wall is Robert O Harmon b 1865 MO he lived in IT from 1892 to 1914, but the only proof I can find is in 1913 when his children attended the Hogan School in Mayes County, after it became OK. His brother also lived in IT his name ws John Wesley Harmon. Their mother was to have been part cherokee and was Martha Waters. Neither of these families was on any census until 1920, when they were in AR. Joseph Meyer

Gail, seems we connect on this one. :) Sandy Miller I'm operating tonight with only half a brain. If anyone on the list connects, please contact me.

I have family oral history stating that my great-grandfather was William Downing, who was a renegade Cherokee in Oklahoma Territory. He married Caldonia McLaughlin (1861 Mississippi to 1904 Oklahoma) on February 15, 1885 in Gainesville, Cooke County, Texas. They had been living in Oklahoma, but went just across the state line to Texas to marry. Perhaps it was frowned upon for a white woman to marry Cherokee, but that is only conjecture. Caldonia had been married to John McLaughlin who died of pneumonia and bore him 4 children - Fannie Alice 1877; Louis Alfred 1879; John Thomas 1880; Williams Jacob 1882. So William Downing took on a ready made family of three children. (Louis Alfred died in 1880) After William Downing and Caldonia were married they had 4 children - Ollie 1885; Albert Franklin 1888; Ida James 1891; and Charlotte 1895 (my grandmother). The last William was seen was being chased out of town by a posse for stealing a horse. Albert Franklin later found that William Downing is buried in White Rock Cemetery in South West City, Missouri. I have no other information on him. I don't even have a birth or death date. (It is unknown if they were divorced. She then married John McClure who gave her a baby that died at 4 months old. ) Interesting family history, but unable to document anything on William. Shirley

Searching for : James Young b. abt. 1837 his sister Mary B. Young b. abt 1845/6 Tawnee Wolf Song Singing

I am a new member and have a brick wall. My g'grand father was known to me as Blackhawk SATTERFIELD. He was also named Andrew Jackson SATTERFIELD It is believed he was Cherokee. born somewhere around 1849. son of Samuel Skelton SATTERFIELD. Blackback died ca 1929 at age 84. Have never found any info about his father. thanks.wanda

Mary Lou, I am interested in your STANTON & KING family in IT. My grandfather was King David STANTON. He married my grandmother on June7, 1907 in Allen, OK. Her name was Addie Pearl DUNNAM STANTON. They went to IT after 1900 from Union County, MS. Both the STANTON & DUNNAM families were in the 1900 Union County, MS Census. Grandmother's family was: Father - Tehofihlous ("Opp or Off" nickames) Greenberry DUNNAM. He married Alice REED. My grandmother was born in the 1890s, if memory serves. Grandfathers family: Father James S. STANTON m. Mary Elizabeth MOTES. Mary Elizabeth's father was King Cyrus MOTES. Hence my interest in the KING line. Is it possible there is some connection to your KING line because of the given names? Grandpa K. D. STANTON was seventh in a list of 8 known siblings. They are: William Lemuel STANTON, Leonard STANTON, Annce STANTON, James F. STANTON, Sarah E. STANTON, Lamar STANTON, my Grandfather, and Viola STANTON. with birthdates ranging from 1872-1886. If any of this is familiar to you let me know. My information from Grandpa was that his grandmother was a Chickasaw. I don't know if it was his maternal or paternal grandmother. The only picture I have of his mother indicates strong Native American features. His paternal grandmother was Eliza Jane WALKER STANTON m. Burrell STANTON in 1854 in Tishomingo Co., MS. I don't have Eliza Jane's parentage yet but there seems to be a possiblity that she is Joel WALKER son of Tandy WALKER's sister. Not proven but I have seen indications that this is a good possiblility. Pardon this confusing post. I'm operating tonight with only half a brain. If anyone on the list connects, please contact me. Thank you, Gail Mary Lou & Lee Rosson wrote: > > researching: ALLMON, PARKER, OVERSTREET, ROSSON, KING, THOMAS, STANTON, > TYSON, BALL, MAY, SHUMATE AND OTHERS > > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] > Sent: Thursday, April 05, 2001 10:31 PM > To: [email protected] > Subject: [IT-INDIAN] NEW PEOPLE ON THE LIST > > Hi All: > > Since we are getting more new people on the IT-INDIAN and IT-WHITE lists, > would you all mind posting your "brick wall" people and family surnames. We > might find a hit! > > Thanks, Sandi > > Researching*ALEXANDER*ALVERSON*ANDERSON*BINGHAM*BOND*BRAWNER*BROOKS* > CAMPBELL*DAVIS*FITZPATRICK*FLETCHER*FORD*GARRARD*HALL*HARRIS*HOLMES* > JOHNSON*MAUPIN*MONCRIEF*ST.ONGE*STURM*TIERY*TIREY*TYRE*TYREE*WALTHALL* > WARD*WILLIAMS*AND*MORE > > ______________________________ > > ============================== > Visit Ancestry's Library - The best collection of family history > learning and how-to articles on the Internet. > http://www.ancestry.com/learn/library

MY NAME IS MINNIE LOU WATSON WHITTINGTON MY BRICKWALL IS ANNA BELL (E) BOGLE AND ALEXANDER DANGERFIELD WILSON. THESE ARE MY GREAT GARNDPARENTS ON MY MATERNAL SIDE.MY GRANDMOTHER WAS BORN SEPT.3,1876 AT MANNSVILLE OR MARSDEN I.T. I HAVE PROVED HER UP FOR THE" FIRST FAMILIES OF THE TWIN TERRITORIES" THRU THE OKLAHOMA GENEALOGICAL SOCIETY.BUT CANNOT PROVE HER PARENTS.BOTH DIED IN 1885. HE WAS SHOT OFF THE ROOF HE WAS REPAIRING. SHE DIED OF CHILDBIRTH SAME YEAR. BOTH BURIED AT BOGGY DEPOT CEMET.NO STONES. I'D APPRECIATE ANY HELP ANYONE CAN GIVE ME. THANKS [email protected] ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, April 06, 2001 12:40 PM Subject: IT-INDIAN-D Digest V01 #18

My "brickwalls" are: DOS(C)IE BEATRICE CHAPPA(E)LL. She was born 19 Jul 1883 in (?)Bon Aqua, Hickman Co., TN. Parents unknown, siblings (?). She married JOHN BENJAMIN REDDEN, born 22 Apr 1882, in Dickson, Dickson Co., TN, son of JOHN WILEY REDDEN and NANCY JANE DUNIGAN. On the 1900 (?) Census, it has her living with her father-in-law, in his house, it also states that she was born in Stewart Co., TN.. Have been "hitting my head on proverbial brickwall" for almost 5 years. Need some help on this lady. She always told us she was "full blood" Cherokee and to see her in pictures, there would be no doubt. Her husband was also reportedly "full blood" Cherokee, but haven't found definite proof of that yet. Only their pictures tell the story, so far. Also need some info on another "brickwall" whose name is: ROBERT GUY MATHIS, born 31 Aug 1907 and married Docie and John's daughter, LAURA MAY REDDEN in 1929 in HUMBOLDT, GIBSON CO., TN.. Have no idea who his parents were and if he had any siblings. Any and all help on these "brickwalls" will be greatly appreciated. Many thanks in advance, Joan from MI My family ancestors so far are:REDDEN+CHAPPALL+MATHIS+SEVIER

My "brick wall" people are named Rosson. I reach a brick wall with Elias Rector Rosson, b 12.29.1836 in MO, d 5.20.1920 in Drumright OK. He was married to Mary Jane Sherman, b Il. I find him first on the 1850 census working as a larborer on a farm in MO, age 16. Family oral history says this Rosson name came from John Ross line, as in son of Ross or Ross's son. I'm totally dead in the water in finding Elias' parents, etc. So far haven't found him listed in census as a child. Does this family story sound off the wall or could there be truth in the name evolution? Thanks, Mary Lou Rosson researching: ALLMON, PARKER, OVERSTREET, ROSSON, KING, THOMAS, STANTON, TYSON, BALL, MAY, SHUMATE AND OTHERS -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Thursday, April 05, 2001 10:31 PM To: [email protected] Subject: [IT-INDIAN] NEW PEOPLE ON THE LIST Hi All: Since we are getting more new people on the IT-INDIAN and IT-WHITE lists, would you all mind posting your "brick wall" people and family surnames. We might find a hit! Thanks, Sandi Researching*ALEXANDER*ALVERSON*ANDERSON*BINGHAM*BOND*BRAWNER*BROOKS* CAMPBELL*DAVIS*FITZPATRICK*FLETCHER*FORD*GARRARD*HALL*HARRIS*HOLMES* JOHNSON*MAUPIN*MONCRIEF*ST.ONGE*STURM*TIERY*TIREY*TYRE*TYREE*WALTHALL* WARD*WILLIAMS*AND*MORE ______________________________