Oh....no...I was just wondering when and if it would be available for the public like it is on-line and in books. I lived in Chickasaw Nation for awhile until my kids got homesick...LOL...being a Citizen doesnt do anything for you unless you live there, then they have nice programs for people. I loved it there I felt like I was home not because of what they do but because of the people, I would go back rather I was a citizen or not. Donna ----- Original Message ----- From: "NAA" <naa@bellsouth.net> To: <IT-INDIAN-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, July 11, 2003 11:31 AM Subject: Re: [IT-INDIAN] Search the Dawes Rolls > If you are enrolled then you shouldn't have a problem getting the nation to help you with the info. > Meli > > > --- > Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. > Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). > Version: 6.0.495 / Virus Database: 294 - Release Date: 6/30/2003 > > > ==== IT-INDIAN Mailing List ==== > To subscribe to our Chat list please send a message to IT-INDIAN-CHAT-L-request@rootsweb.com that contains the word subscribe or to subscribe to the digest mode, send the command instead to IT-INDIAN-CHAT-D-request@rootsweb.com. > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > >

Donna, do you live within the Chickasaw Nation? I miss my people and don't get to go home often. Meli --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.495 / Virus Database: 294 - Release Date: 6/30/2003

If you are enrolled then you shouldn't have a problem getting the nation to help you with the info. Meli --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.495 / Virus Database: 294 - Release Date: 6/30/2003

Meli, I would very much appreciate the information you are talking about you can email me at cartersa@pacbell.net Thank You Kindly Shirley NAA wrote: > Osiyo, if anyone wants the SEARCH THE DAWES ROLLS that we, at the Native American Advocate use to help people find their ancestors, I would be happy to try and send it to the list or in private email to you. > > You just type in the surname to get the most results, and it will give a complete list of everyone with that surname that was enrolled from the 5 civilized tribes. It does not give a genealogy of the person, but if you recognize a name then you can do more research with the info it does provide. > > donadagohvi, > Meli > > --- > Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. > Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). > Version: 6.0.495 / Virus Database: 294 - Release Date: 6/30/2003 > > ==== IT-INDIAN Mailing List ==== > > To unsubscribe, please send the command "unsubscribe" to IT-INDIAN-L-request@rootsweb.com (if in mail mode) or IT-INDIAN-D-request@rootsweb.com (if in digest mode.) > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237

Yes, Thank you......it works fine and allot easier. We are enrolled with the Chickasaw is why I asked that question. Thank you again.....Donna ----- Original Message ----- From: "NAA" <naa@bellsouth.net> To: <IT-INDIAN-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, July 11, 2003 11:20 AM Subject: Re: [IT-INDIAN] Search the Dawes Rolls > The Dawes and Guion-Miller Rolls ended in the very early 1900's. > The Cherokee are the hardest to get enrolled with now days, Chickasaws and Choctaws are easier. > > If I can find it in my files I believe I still have the info and application for the Chickasaw Enrollment. > > I will sent the search in a private email to you, please let me know if it comes through ok. > > Meli > > > > --- > Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. > Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). > Version: 6.0.495 / Virus Database: 294 - Release Date: 6/30/2003 > > > ==== IT-INDIAN Mailing List ==== > To subscribe to our Chat list please send a message to IT-INDIAN-CHAT-L-request@rootsweb.com that contains the word subscribe or to subscribe to the digest mode, send the command instead to > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > >

The Dawes and Guion-Miller Rolls ended in the very early 1900's. The Cherokee are the hardest to get enrolled with now days, Chickasaws and Choctaws are easier. If I can find it in my files I believe I still have the info and application for the Chickasaw Enrollment. I will sent the search in a private email to you, please let me know if it comes through ok. Meli --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.495 / Virus Database: 294 - Release Date: 6/30/2003

Hi Meli, Im interested in that because it sounds allot easier then searching by eye. I wanted to ask if you know the latest date of enrolled Natives..like when would my children's name be on a citizens list for the Chickasaw Nation. My e-mail is donnapich66@hotmail.com Thank you, Donna ----- Original Message ----- From: "NAA" <naa@bellsouth.net> To: <IT-INDIAN-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, July 11, 2003 9:40 AM Subject: [IT-INDIAN] Search the Dawes Rolls > Osiyo, if anyone wants the SEARCH THE DAWES ROLLS that we, at the Native American Advocate use to help people find their ancestors, I would be happy to try and send it to the list or in private email to you. > > You just type in the surname to get the most results, and it will give a complete list of everyone with that surname that was enrolled from the 5 civilized tribes. It does not give a genealogy of the person, but if you recognize a name then you can do more research with the info it does provide. > > donadagohvi, > Meli > > > > > --- > Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. > Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). > Version: 6.0.495 / Virus Database: 294 - Release Date: 6/30/2003 > > > ==== IT-INDIAN Mailing List ==== > > To unsubscribe, please send the command "unsubscribe" to IT-INDIAN-L-request@rootsweb.com (if in mail mode) or IT-INDIAN-D-request@rootsweb.com (if in digest mode.) > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > >

Meli, If you have time please send me the information also oakie@gci.net Thank you so much , Linda ----- Original Message ----- From: "Shirley Carter" <cartersa@pacbell.net> To: <IT-INDIAN-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, July 11, 2003 10:31 AM Subject: Re: [IT-INDIAN] Search the Dawes Rolls > Meli, I would very much appreciate the information you are talking about you can email me at cartersa@pacbell.net Thank You Kindly Shirley > > NAA wrote: > > > Osiyo, if anyone wants the SEARCH THE DAWES ROLLS that we, at the Native American Advocate use to help people find their ancestors, I would be happy to try and send it to the list or in private email to you. > > > > You just type in the surname to get the most results, and it will give a complete list of everyone with that surname that was enrolled from the 5 civilized tribes. It does not give a genealogy of the person, but if you recognize a name then you can do more research with the info it does provide. > > > > donadagohvi, > > Meli > > > > --- > > Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. > > Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). > > Version: 6.0.495 / Virus Database: 294 - Release Date: 6/30/2003 > > > > ==== IT-INDIAN Mailing List ==== > > > > To unsubscribe, please send the command "unsubscribe" to IT-INDIAN-L-request@rootsweb.com (if in mail mode) or IT-INDIAN-D-request@rootsweb.com (if in digest mode.) > > > > ============================== > > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > > ==== IT-INDIAN Mailing List ==== > To subscribe to our Chat list please send a message to IT-INDIAN-CHAT-L-request@rootsweb.com that contains the word subscribe or to subscribe to the digest mode, send the command instead to > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 >

My surnames are Beck Hildebrand Bea/Bee Neel Martin Grant Buffington Emory Towers Ward early Harlands Cousins who descend out of Starr two lines of Thompson Dean Rider ----- Original Message ----- From: <SandKatC@aol.com> To: <IT-INDIAN-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, July 11, 2003 2:19 AM Subject: Re: [IT-INDIAN] *Holt* > > In a message dated 7/10/03 11:09:09 PM, oakie@gci.net writes: > > << Do you know if any of your Holts are related to a George Holt who married > > Emma Nail in Oct. 1926, in Altus, Jacjson county, OK they lived in Johnston > > for several years and later moved to Dension, TX.. George died in 1979 and > > Emma in 1994, both are buried in Condon Grove cemetery, Johnston County, OK >> > > Linda: > > I sure don't know that. I'll forward your email to my cousin if you'd like > and he can give you an answer. He is always looking for more Holt relatives. > > Let me know. > > Sandi > > > ==== IT-INDIAN Mailing List ==== > To subscribe to our Chat list please send a message to IT-INDIAN-CHAT-L-request@rootsweb.com that contains the word subscribe or to subscribe to the digest mode, send the command instead to IT-INDIAN-CHAT-D-request@rootsweb.com. > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 >

Osiyo, if anyone wants the SEARCH THE DAWES ROLLS that we, at the Native American Advocate use to help people find their ancestors, I would be happy to try and send it to the list or in private email to you. You just type in the surname to get the most results, and it will give a complete list of everyone with that surname that was enrolled from the 5 civilized tribes. It does not give a genealogy of the person, but if you recognize a name then you can do more research with the info it does provide. donadagohvi, Meli --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.495 / Virus Database: 294 - Release Date: 6/30/2003

For those that are searching for native american Holmes and Jacksons. I have the listing of 161 Holmes that were enrolled, and I also have 1146 Jacksons that were enrolled. If anyone wants the names, please let me know and I will send them to you. donadagohvi, Meli --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.495 / Virus Database: 294 - Release Date: 6/30/2003

In a message dated 7/10/03 11:09:09 PM, oakie@gci.net writes: << Do you know if any of your Holts are related to a George Holt who married Emma Nail in Oct. 1926, in Altus, Jacjson county, OK they lived in Johnston for several years and later moved to Dension, TX.. George died in 1979 and Emma in 1994, both are buried in Condon Grove cemetery, Johnston County, OK >> Linda: I sure don't know that. I'll forward your email to my cousin if you'd like and he can give you an answer. He is always looking for more Holt relatives. Let me know. Sandi

Yes, Sandy please do, I have nothing on this branch of the family before George, Emma was my grandmothers sister. Linda ----- Original Message ----- From: <SandKatC@aol.com> To: <IT-INDIAN-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, July 10, 2003 10:19 PM Subject: Re: [IT-INDIAN] *Holt* > > In a message dated 7/10/03 11:09:09 PM, oakie@gci.net writes: > > << Do you know if any of your Holts are related to a George Holt who married > > Emma Nail in Oct. 1926, in Altus, Jacjson county, OK they lived in Johnston > > for several years and later moved to Dension, TX.. George died in 1979 and > > Emma in 1994, both are buried in Condon Grove cemetery, Johnston County, OK >> > > Linda: > > I sure don't know that. I'll forward your email to my cousin if you'd like > and he can give you an answer. He is always looking for more Holt relatives. > > Let me know. > > Sandi > > > ==== IT-INDIAN Mailing List ==== > To subscribe to our Chat list please send a message to IT-INDIAN-CHAT-L-request@rootsweb.com that contains the word subscribe or to subscribe to the digest mode, send the command instead to IT-INDIAN-CHAT-D-request@rootsweb.com. > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 >

Seeking information on Sarah Canoe born abt. 1750, Married Alexander Brown . Children ; Alexander born abt. 1763, Ga.? , Saynee born 1765, Va. Alexander Brown Jr. Married Violet Barton Feb. 1797, Va. Alex may have died in Polk co., Mo. Children: Thomas, Annis, Sarah, Dicie, (Isom) Alexander Zachariah, John, Violetta, Susan, Isom or Alexander Brown Born 1810 Bedford Co., Va., died 1864, Ks. Married Matilda Tindell Children: Daniel, Susan, Isaiah, William, Elijah, John, Robert, Isom, Ben, James James Henry Brown Born 1850, MO. died Cherokee Nation I.T. Married Mildred Swadley, Mo. Children: Hattie, John, Lousia, Arthur, Ealy,Cordellia, Fanny, Fanny's twin Arthur (Austin?) Brown born march 12, 1884, Arkansas, died 1972, Ok. Married Dottie Vera Bingham? Children: Bessie, Jewel, Georgia Any information would be helpful. Thank you Barbara

Barbara, Ancestry.com has entries for Sarah Canoe. Most show her father as Chief Dragging Canoe and her mother as Leaf. Sarah listed as Sarah "Naky" Canoe. Donald Panther-Yates was one of the submitters. You can go to www.ancestry.com and see these entries yourself. Ancestry world tree is still a free site. You have to go in through the link that shows quick hit result or official site. Usually they are one and the same. Any other link and they may ask you to sign up for a 14 day free trial Just click on the link I sent you and see what happens. Wow, this is impressive, probably enough to get you admitted into the Cherokee nation. Several of these submitters showed Alexander and Sawney as one and the same person. Jackie Donald Panther-Yates email addy is dpanther@gasou.edu

In a message dated 7/10/03 8:14:01 PM, jeannie1948@hotmail.com writes: << Does anyone have any suggestions as to which "pay" for site like Ancestry.com, is better to work with? I think I've just about run out of "freebie" sites that will have any good info on it. >> Barb: Have you sent away for information in snail mail? I hate to see you sign up for a pay site. I've sent for death certificates, Dawes Roll jacket copies, cemetery records, and on and on for the best results. Also, family Bibles are a great source of information. Sandi

That's what I was thinking this evening - over the weekend I may see if I can follow some of those thru - Does anyone have any suggestions as to which "pay" for site like Ancestry.com, is better to work with? I think I've just about run out of "freebie" sites that will have any good info on it. Will keep you posted if I find anything. Thanks for your help - will feed out info as I locate it Barb ----- Original Message ----- From: SandKatC@aol.com To: IT-INDIAN-L@rootsweb.com Sent: Thursday, July 10, 2003 11:02 PM Subject: Re: [IT-INDIAN] *Holmes* In a message dated 7/10/03 7:54:36 PM, jeannie1948@hotmail.com writes: << There were 12 Holmes' listed under Mary - but only 4 were listed as children - the rest were listed as Boarders >> I'm wondering if the boarders were other Holmes relatives? Sandi ==== IT-INDIAN Mailing List ==== To subscribe to our Chat list please send a message to IT-INDIAN-CHAT-L-request@rootsweb.com that contains the word subscribe or to subscribe to the digest mode, send the command instead to IT-INDIAN-CHAT-D-request@rootsweb.com. ============================== To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237

In a message dated 7/10/03 7:54:36 PM, jeannie1948@hotmail.com writes: << There were 12 Holmes' listed under Mary - but only 4 were listed as children - the rest were listed as Boarders >> I'm wondering if the boarders were other Holmes relatives? Sandi

From what I've found so far - My G.G.Grandmother was born around 1862 - My GGG Grandmother listed a William (?) as 30 yrs old - but on the census she listed him as a boarder - not a son - so I'm confused - There were 12 Holmes' listed under Mary - but only 4 were listed as children - the rest were listed as Boarders - This was on the 1880 census for Waverly,Baltimore County, Maryland We thought perhaps if we did have any Indian Heritage it would be on the Holmes side - we found a pic of GGGrandMa Sarah and she was this tiny dark lady. ----- Original Message ----- From: SandKatC@aol.com To: IT-INDIAN-L@rootsweb.com Sent: Thursday, July 10, 2003 2:16 AM Subject: Re: [IT-INDIAN] *Alexander* In a message dated 7/9/03 10:47:04 PM, donnapich66@hotmail.com writes: << Are your Alexander's enrolled with the Chickasaw Nation? I have my stuff for them but I just havent sorted it out yet. Just to mention a few names...Chili Alexander,Jerome Brown,Mary Brown,Florence Brown,Jennie Alexander, ISA-TA-TUBBY, NUTCH-U-MA-CHEY...ect.... >> Donna: I'd have to ask. But, in the Holmes section of the family, there are some Browns and they are really dark and have a lot of N/A blood. Actually, in the Holmes section, there are those who look like they just got off the boat from Ireland and some of their first cousins look 100% N/A. I do know that there is Choctaw in that section. Judge Anderson Brown married Annie Josephine Holmes. They are both buried at Fairlawn Cemetery in Chickasha, Grady CO, OK. Judge was his first name. He wasn't a judge that I know of. Sandi ==== IT-INDIAN Mailing List ==== To unsubscribe, please send the command "unsubscribe" to IT-INDIAN-L-request@rootsweb.com (if in mail mode) or IT-INDIAN-D-request@rootsweb.com (if in digest mode.) ============================== To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237

Barb send me your e-mail addy and I will send you a link. Donna ----- Original Message ----- From: <SandKatC@aol.com> To: <IT-INDIAN-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, July 10, 2003 10:18 PM Subject: Re: [IT-INDIAN] *Holmes* > > In a message dated 7/10/03 8:14:01 PM, jeannie1948@hotmail.com writes: > > << Does anyone have any suggestions as to which "pay" for site like > Ancestry.com, is better to work with? I think I've just about run out of "freebie" > sites that will have any good info on it. >> > > Barb: > > Have you sent away for information in snail mail? I hate to see you sign up > for a pay site. I've sent for death certificates, Dawes Roll jacket copies, > cemetery records, and on and on for the best results. Also, family Bibles are > a great source of information. > > Sandi > > > ==== IT-INDIAN Mailing List ==== > To subscribe to our Chat list please send a message to IT-INDIAN-CHAT-L-request@rootsweb.com that contains the word subscribe or to subscribe to the digest mode, send the command instead to IT-INDIAN-CHAT-D-request@rootsweb.com. > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > >