I desperately need help in finding the parents of Festus Brown. He married Sarah Louisa Wallace (Wallis) December 12, 1880 in Sevier County, Ark. Festus was born about 1861 as was Louisa. Louisa's parents were Augustus Wallace(Wallis) was died in the 1861 in the Civil War. I found were Festus was living with his cousin Jas. Castle in 1880 before he married. He stated that his parents were born in Tenn. He also stated that he was born in Ark. But some family stories suggest Texas. It is also said that Festus was Choctaw/Irish and Louisa was a full blood Choctaw. There son Charles Augustus Brown was my Great Grandfather. He also used the name Charley Brown. Charley married Hattie Johnson, who family stories suggest her real name was Touster or something simliar. She was said to be full blood Cherokee. Her father was Enoch Monroe Johnson and her mother Lula Cavins. They both died in Oklahoma. My Grandmother told on her death bed that she was registered with a tribe and had a number but did not state what tribe, where or the number. She burned everything she owned. Her birth name was Clara Brown, born Jan 2 1921. She was a twin. After her birth they changed her name to Lula May Brown. I think the other twin died at birth. She married Glen Powell, then Charles Hegele. In the 70's she legally changed her name to Natasha Chucalate. She died May 2002. I really need help finding Festus's parents and if my Grandmother was registered with a tribe. Thanks Rebecca

Thank you for your help, I am already in contact with Nel Hatcher, and am involved with the Hatcher Web site. So I already aware of what they have. But we are unable to find out when and where he died and is buried. But thank you for your help anyway. Judy Jackie Tolbert wrote: > Judy, I looked at ancestry com for your ancestor, Wm Yancey L Hatcher. > There was an entry for him > but you indicated you were most interested in where he died and where > buried. This info was posted by > a Nell Hatcher nelhatch@hills.net She states there is a Hatcher Families > Resource Center. > So you can contact her at the above email address or go to google and > type in hatcher families > resource center.It will bring up that website and it looks very > interesting. The entry at ancestry for > William Yancey l Hatcher by nell Hatcher only shows that Wm died > 1899-1901 Choctaw nation, Ok ? > So apparently they don't know where Wm is buried. I would still contact > Nell if I were you. > > Jackie > > ==== IT-INDIAN Mailing List ==== > To unsubscribe, please send the command "unsubscribe" to IT-INDIAN-L-request@rootsweb.com (if in mail mode) or IT-INDIAN-D-request@rootsweb.com (if in digest mode.) > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237

In a message dated 8/19/03 10:30:55 PM, plantlady25@juno.com writes: << Sandi, thanx, I knew this wasn't going to be easy. Jackie >> Jackie: IF ONLY! LOL Still searching. Sandi

In a message dated 8/19/03 8:26:27 PM, ford56@pacbell.net writes: << my great grandfather WYL Hatcher (William Yancey Lafayette Hatcher) was married to my great grandmother Alabama A. (Williams)Hatcher, anyway they lived in somewhere in Choctow Oklahoma he died somewhere between 1898 >> Hi Judy: Have you checked census records? Have you checked the Choctaw County site in the USGenWeb? You should join their county email list and post your query. Also, you might see if there is a HATCHER-L email list on rootsweb and join that and post a query. What are your other family surnames? Thanks, Sandi

Judy, I looked at ancestry com for your ancestor, Wm Yancey L Hatcher. There was an entry for him but you indicated you were most interested in where he died and where buried. This info was posted by a Nell Hatcher nelhatch@hills.net She states there is a Hatcher Families Resource Center. So you can contact her at the above email address or go to google and type in hatcher families resource center.It will bring up that website and it looks very interesting. The entry at ancestry for William Yancey l Hatcher by nell Hatcher only shows that Wm died 1899-1901 Choctaw nation, Ok ? So apparently they don't know where Wm is buried. I would still contact Nell if I were you. Jackie

Jackie: The only Self I found in my Moncrief FTM is below. There is no other information on the woman. They had no children. Descendants of Joseph Moncrief 1 Joseph Moncrief b: 22 Aug 1857 in Skullyville, Choctaw Nation, I T d: 16 Jun 1945 in Amber, Grady CO, OK . +Lulu Self m: 12 Aug 1888 Bestm Sandi

Sandi, thanx, I knew this wasn't going to be easy. Jackie

I'm sorry, but I'm afraid that I have almost no information on my Jane Self of Texas or of my Daisy Self of Oklahoma. In fact, these are the only two Self names I have in my database because I simply cannot find anything about either of these two women. I have even sent numerous messages to the Self/Selph family list, but I have never received even one response. I don't know for sure if they are even getting my requests for information. I can't get any kind of response. I sure hope you have better luck than I have had with the Self surname, and I am really sorry I couldn't help you. Janet I truly hope you have better luck than I have had with the Self surname. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jackie Tolbert" <plantlady25@juno.com> To: <IT-INDIAN-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, August 19, 2003 12:04 PM Subject: Re: [IT-INDIAN] Researching names Cloud, Moody, Self > Janet, I am trying to help a gentleman who is researching Self and > unknown. His granny's maiden > name unknown. Her first name was Annie, born abt 1886 in Miss. She was > adopted by a Morse and a > Teague. She married James Franklin Self in Choctaw nation, Ok, in 1901, > San Bois was the location. > We can find a listing for her under Morse at ancestry,but we would like > to find her mother's name. > Does this Self ring any bells? > > Jackie > > > ==== IT-INDIAN Mailing List ==== > To unsubscribe, please send the command "unsubscribe" to IT-INDIAN-L-request@rootsweb.com (if in mail mode) or IT-INDIAN-D-request@rootsweb.com (if in digest mode.) > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > >

Hi my name is Judy and I dont know if this is how I reach you to see if you could check on something for me? But my great grandfather WYL Hatcher (William Yancey Lafayette Hatcher) was married to my great grandmother Alabama A. (Williams)Hatcher, anyway they lived in somewhere in Choctow Oklahoma he died somewhere between 1898 and 1901 I suspect in or around Hugo Choctow Ok, because their last child was born in 1898 and Allie(Alabama)remarried in 1901 to a John Hasty in Hugo Choctaw OK. What I am trying to find out is when or where my great grandfather WYL died and might be buried? Could you help me Please! my e-mail is ford56@pacbell.net. Any help would be appreciated, Thank You, Judy SandKatC@aol.com wrote: > Jackie: > > The only Self I found in my Moncrief FTM is below. There is no other > information on the woman. They had no children. > > Descendants of Joseph Moncrief > > 1 Joseph Moncrief b: 22 Aug 1857 in Skullyville, Choctaw Nation, I T > d: 16 Jun 1945 in Amber, Grady CO, OK > . +Lulu Self m: 12 Aug 1888 > > Bestm Sandi > > ==== IT-INDIAN Mailing List ==== > To unsubscribe, please send the command "unsubscribe" to IT-INDIAN-L-request@rootsweb.com (if in mail mode) or IT-INDIAN-D-request@rootsweb.com (if in digest mode.) > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237

Thanx anyway Janet. I did send this gentleman the link for the Self surname list Perhaps he will have better luck. Jackie.

Janet, I am trying to help a gentleman who is researching Self and unknown. His granny's maiden name unknown. Her first name was Annie, born abt 1886 in Miss. She was adopted by a Morse and a Teague. She married James Franklin Self in Choctaw nation, Ok, in 1901, San Bois was the location. We can find a listing for her under Morse at ancestry,but we would like to find her mother's name. Does this Self ring any bells? Jackie

My Thompson's are from the Eastern Cherokee Nation. I'm not aware of anyone from Maryland. Thanks for your interest. Pat Kramer

Newsgroup Announcement: For those of you who are familiar with the USENET binary newsgroups, there is a new one for genealogy researchers. The name of the newsgroup is: alt.binaries.e-book.genealogy Shortly, there will be a corresponding "discussion" group for the new newsgroup: alt.binaries.e-book.genealogy.d NEWSGROUP PURPOSE: The purpose of the new newsgroup (alt.binaries.e-book.genealogy) is to provide a place to share scanned genealogy books, genealogy books from CD and other printed genealogical materials. This is where you may find and share those old, out of print or never published materials and unidentified photos, which people have stuck in their closets. :-) This newsgroup will be of greatest interest to those who are already familiar with USENET and newsgroups, specifically binary newsgroups. If you don't know about newsgroups, and the huge amount of genealogical info that flows freely across USENET each day, then please ask one of your computer literate friends to explain how to access newsgroups (sometimes relanguaged to the term "discussion groups"). List Admin: If I have accidentally sent this to a list where I'm no longer a member, will you please post it to the group for me?? Note: This is NOT spam. I'm making an announcement about a free newsgroup. As anyone familiar w/ USENET knows, there is no profit in this at all. My only interest is -- I want more people to subscribe, because more group members will mean more information is being shared (some might help with my brickwalls). :-)

Pat, where were your Thompson's from? I completely missed your message last month. I have Thomas Thompson born 1705 Frederick co., Md. His daughter Sarah Thompson married my Matthew Sparks Jackie

Just now, many Internet users are experiencing problems with their computers shutting down abruptly. It is the result of a computer vulnerability and is being experienced by computer users around the world. It is due to a computer worm that scans computers checking to see if port 135 is open. If so, the worm takes advantage of the computer and shuts it down. If your computer has not been infected, you should go to one of the web sites shown below to update your anti-virus software or install a patch to prevent infection. Here is a Microsoft bulletin regarding this vulnerability: http://www.microsoft.com/security/security_bulletins/ms03-026.asp Here is an update from Symantec: http://www.sarc.com/avcenter/security/Content/8205.html Here is an update from McAfee: http://us.mcafee.com/virusInfo/default.asp? id=description&virus_k=100547 If your computer becomes infected and gets shut down, you will need to follow these steps (you may want to print them for future reference): Unplug modem. Attention: PC users I felt this was important enough to send to all my lists. I've been hearing about it all day on the TV news. So, please read and beware! Best, Sandi Carter List mom Restart computer. Go to Start / Search / For Files and Folders. Confirm that Look in is set for C: drive. Search for files and folders named: "MSBLAST.exe" When computer finds the msblast file(s), right click on the file names and delete all copies of the file. Shut down the machine. Plug the modem back in. Restart the machine. Go directly to one of the web sites above and install the patch and/or update.

Looking for information on Lydia Langston. She can be found in the 1850 Milam County, TX census at 50 years of age and born in TN. She has three children living with her and no husband listed.

Thank you Gene. My father Ronnie Earl Norwood was also in the Navy over 30 years ago. He was in Texas where he met my mother. I have many John Norwood ancestors, but don't know of any living John Norwoods. As I was not raised with my father's family. I do know of a Norwood family enrolled with the Cherokee of Oklahoma. Per the Dawes; Andrew Henderson Norwood married Alice GOURD daughter of Rattlinggourd. That's about all that I do know of them. Andrew was a cousin of one of my John Norwood's. There are also supose to be Choctaw Norwoods, but I haven't met them. I believe once I find my great grandmother's maiden name, I'll find out which Tribe my grandmother was enrolled into. It's difficult, not many Cushion, Cutchen ect.. researchers out there. My grandmother's family was from FL and AL and I grew up in California. It's difficult, but I am pulling down the wall brick by brick. Thanks. Vonda ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gene Philips" <genephillips@usa.net> To: <IT-INDIAN-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, August 07, 2003 7:14 PM Subject: Re: [IT-INDIAN] Creek/Seminole Territory > I used to be stationed in the US Navy with Johnny Norwood. He was from eastern OK, I think Eufaula but it was about 30 years ago and I can't remember the exact address. > > Gene > > At 03:03 PM 8/7/03 -0400, you wrote: > >I am sending this information, because I met a new cousin who believes that > >our grandmother was enrolled with the Poarch Creek Tribe, from near Atmore, > >AL. > > I have found a little more information on my grandmother's family, but > >it's not much. I hope to find someone who might have heard of them: > >THE PARENTS OF Ronnie Earl NORWOOD (My father) > >Father: Lester Hibard NORWOOD b.June 12,1903 Monroe Co., Al d. March 10,1965 > >Canoe Escambia Co., Al. Burial in Canaan > >Freewill Cemetery Canoe, Escambia Co., Al. Married > >Odie Lee CUSHION b.abt.1908/9 Atmore, Al d.Odie Lee MAUGHON 1984 Atmore, Al. > > > >THE PARENTS OF Odie L. CUSHION: > >Father: Warren CUSHION b.1886 FL - d.1951 AL > >Mother: Maggie UNKNOWN b.1894 AL - d.? > >Warren is buried in Canaan Freewill > >Cemetery Canoe, Escambia Co., Al. > >NOTE: > >Warren and Maggie CUSHION on the 1910 census of Monroe Co., AL: > >Warren CUSHION age 22 W born in FL, Father b. in FL Mother born in FL. > >Maggie CUSHION age 16 W born in AL, Father b. in AL, Mother born in AL > >Odie is 1 and 1/2 years old. > > > >THE PARENTS OF Warren CUSHION: > >Father: Louis CUSHION b. Jan 1843 in FL d.? > >Mother: Mary (UNK. Maiden) CUSHION b.AL 1845/50 ? d.1919. She is buried in > >Cannon > >Freewill Cemetery in Canoe, Escambia Co., Al. > > > >On the 1900 census of Escambia Co. , FL > > Louis CUSHION b. Jan 1843 in FL His father was born in New York and mother > >in AL. > > Warren's mother was Mary A. CUSHION b.Aug 1845 in AL Her father was from > >Ga and mother from AL (note the differences of places of birth for Mary's > >father) > >He had one sister at home Mattie CUSHION b.Feb 1884 in FL. > > > > > >Researching the following surnames: > >Hubby's Tree: > >MILLER, GLAZE, HEMMINGER, > > SMITH, VINES, ROGERS, > >CARMICHEAL, HEAD, CAPPS. > >My Tree: > >NORWOOD, CHANDLER, SMITH, DEAN, ATCHLEY, CUSHON, JOHNSON, PEEBLES, FINDLEY, > >DEES, BRASWELL, PARKER, HUNT, WARREN, CADE, TRUITT, PIPKINS, SAMPSON, IZARD, > >ROBERTS, CARSON, GREEN, HAMLIN, DRAYTON, MACKIE, HALL, DAMPIER, POWELL, > >WILKINS, DUBOSE, WHILDEN, WARREN, COUILLANDEAU, LEE, BOWLES, TRAMBLADE, > >FOUGERAUT, DAWSON, WRIGHT, JOHNSON, TOWNSEND, TOWNSEND, > >JORDAN, LYTE, STUART, LYGON, DENNIS, BERKLEY, GREENVILLE, BOTELER, KNIGHT, > >GIFFORD, ELTON, CLYTON and many more. > > > > > >==== IT-INDIAN Mailing List ==== > >To subscribe to our Chat list please send a message to IT-INDIAN-CHAT-L-request@rootsweb.com that contains the word subscribe or to subscribe to the digest mode, send the command instead to IT-INDIAN-CHAT-D-request@rootsweb.com. > > > >============================== > >To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > >http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > > ==== IT-INDIAN Mailing List ==== > To unsubscribe, please send the command "unsubscribe" to IT-INDIAN-L-request@rootsweb.com (if in mail mode) or IT-INDIAN-D-request@rootsweb.com (if in digest mode.) > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 >

I used to be stationed in the US Navy with Johnny Norwood. He was from eastern OK, I think Eufaula but it was about 30 years ago and I can't remember the exact address. Gene At 03:03 PM 8/7/03 -0400, you wrote: >I am sending this information, because I met a new cousin who believes that >our grandmother was enrolled with the Poarch Creek Tribe, from near Atmore, >AL. > I have found a little more information on my grandmother's family, but >it's not much. I hope to find someone who might have heard of them: >THE PARENTS OF Ronnie Earl NORWOOD (My father) >Father: Lester Hibard NORWOOD b.June 12,1903 Monroe Co., Al d. March 10,1965 >Canoe Escambia Co., Al. Burial in Canaan >Freewill Cemetery Canoe, Escambia Co., Al. Married >Odie Lee CUSHION b.abt.1908/9 Atmore, Al d.Odie Lee MAUGHON 1984 Atmore, Al. > >THE PARENTS OF Odie L. CUSHION: >Father: Warren CUSHION b.1886 FL - d.1951 AL >Mother: Maggie UNKNOWN b.1894 AL - d.? >Warren is buried in Canaan Freewill >Cemetery Canoe, Escambia Co., Al. >NOTE: >Warren and Maggie CUSHION on the 1910 census of Monroe Co., AL: >Warren CUSHION age 22 W born in FL, Father b. in FL Mother born in FL. >Maggie CUSHION age 16 W born in AL, Father b. in AL, Mother born in AL >Odie is 1 and 1/2 years old. > >THE PARENTS OF Warren CUSHION: >Father: Louis CUSHION b. Jan 1843 in FL d.? >Mother: Mary (UNK. Maiden) CUSHION b.AL 1845/50 ? d.1919. She is buried in >Cannon >Freewill Cemetery in Canoe, Escambia Co., Al. > >On the 1900 census of Escambia Co. , FL > Louis CUSHION b. Jan 1843 in FL His father was born in New York and mother >in AL. > Warren's mother was Mary A. CUSHION b.Aug 1845 in AL Her father was from >Ga and mother from AL (note the differences of places of birth for Mary's >father) >He had one sister at home Mattie CUSHION b.Feb 1884 in FL. > > >Researching the following surnames: >Hubby's Tree: >MILLER, GLAZE, HEMMINGER, > SMITH, VINES, ROGERS, >CARMICHEAL, HEAD, CAPPS. >My Tree: >NORWOOD, CHANDLER, SMITH, DEAN, ATCHLEY, CUSHON, JOHNSON, PEEBLES, FINDLEY, >DEES, BRASWELL, PARKER, HUNT, WARREN, CADE, TRUITT, PIPKINS, SAMPSON, IZARD, >ROBERTS, CARSON, GREEN, HAMLIN, DRAYTON, MACKIE, HALL, DAMPIER, POWELL, >WILKINS, DUBOSE, WHILDEN, WARREN, COUILLANDEAU, LEE, BOWLES, TRAMBLADE, >FOUGERAUT, DAWSON, WRIGHT, JOHNSON, TOWNSEND, TOWNSEND, >JORDAN, LYTE, STUART, LYGON, DENNIS, BERKLEY, GREENVILLE, BOTELER, KNIGHT, >GIFFORD, ELTON, CLYTON and many more. > > >==== IT-INDIAN Mailing List ==== >To subscribe to our Chat list please send a message to IT-INDIAN-CHAT-L-request@rootsweb.com that contains the word subscribe or to subscribe to the digest mode, send the command instead to IT-INDIAN-CHAT-D-request@rootsweb.com. > >============================== >To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: >http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237

I found some notes made by General Thomas S. Woodward. A Personal Account of the Creek Nation in Georgia and Alabama. http://www.webroots.org/library/usahist/tcnigal0.html Researching the following surnames: Hubby's Tree: MILLER, GLAZE, HEMMINGER, SMITH, VINES, ROGERS, CARMICHEAL, HEAD, CAPPS. My Tree: NORWOOD, CHANDLER, SMITH, DEAN, ATCHLEY, CUSHON, JOHNSON, PEEBLES, FINDLEY, DEES, BRASWELL, PARKER, HUNT, WARREN, CADE, TRUITT, PIPKINS, SAMPSON, IZARD, ROBERTS, CARSON, GREEN, HAMLIN, DRAYTON, MACKIE, HALL, DAMPIER, POWELL, WILKINS, DUBOSE, WHILDEN, WARREN, COUILLANDEAU, LEE, BOWLES, TRAMBLADE, FOUGERAUT, DAWSON, WRIGHT, JOHNSON, TOWNSEND, TOWNSEND, JORDAN, LYTE, STUART, LYGON, DENNIS, BERKLEY, GREENVILLE, BOTELER, KNIGHT, GIFFORD, ELTON, CLYTON and many more.

That's very kind of you. Thank you. My GIFFORD is from way back in England: THE PARENTS OF Roger NORWOOD: Father: John NORWOOD II b: ABT 1455 in Coventry, Worcester, England Title: 12 Sir Knight Mother: Eleanor GIFFORD b: in ,,,England But thank you very much for asking. My Alabama surnames are NORWOOD, DEES, CUSHION, PEEBLES, FINDLEY, CHANDLER, DEAN, ATCHLEY and PARKER. Vonda > I have information on the Giffords from AL. Gideon, George, William, etc., > Let me know if there is an interest. > > > ==== IT-INDIAN Mailing List ==== > To subscribe to our Chat list please send a message to IT-INDIAN-CHAT-L-request@rootsweb.com that contains the word subscribe or to subscribe to the digest mode, send the command instead to > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 >