Thank you very much. I do believe that the EC# has to do with, at one point in time, people were having to prove their Creek heritage in order to be paid for lands that were lost. Not the Guion Miller, but something like it. Thank you. Vonda > I am not familiar with the Eastern Creek, but I would venture to guess that > their roll numbers are the same as other tribes. > The roll number would be a number assigned to a tribal member of the that > specific tribe of Creek Indians. > A person would have a number if they enrolled with that tribe. > > For instance. My Great Grandparents are Cherokee. They are listed on the > Dawes Rolls for the Cherokee Nation. Each was given a roll number. That meant that > they were apart of the Cherokee Nation Tribe. > > I hope this helps.. > Rebecca > > > ==== IT-INDIAN Mailing List ==== > To subscribe to our Chat list please send a message to IT-INDIAN-CHAT-L-request@rootsweb.com that contains the word subscribe or to subscribe to the digest mode, send the command instead to > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > >

In a message dated 10/1/2003 3:02:10 PM Pacific Daylight Time, IT-INDIAN-D-request@rootsweb.com writes: > Can someone please tell me what an Eastern Creek Roll Number is? What is > it > about? Why would someone have one? > Thank you. > Vonda I am not familiar with the Eastern Creek, but I would venture to guess that their roll numbers are the same as other tribes. The roll number would be a number assigned to a tribal member of the that specific tribe of Creek Indians. A person would have a number if they enrolled with that tribe. For instance. My Great Grandparents are Cherokee. They are listed on the Dawes Rolls for the Cherokee Nation. Each was given a roll number. That meant that they were apart of the Cherokee Nation Tribe. I hope this helps.. Rebecca

Can someone please tell me what an Eastern Creek Roll Number is? What is it about? Why would someone have one? Thank you. Vonda

I need help with a PARKER related ancestor's relation to the words in this word: SAPPELOKE Can anyone translate these words or meaning? Does anyone know why a family group would put this on their headstones? SAPPELOKE is also on the 1832 Fish Pond, AL Creek census. A female. Thank you. Vonda

My Creek ancestor Winnie HUNT was born 4 DEC 1797 in Unknown Georgia d.1851 AL. (I assume in Roberts Cummunity) She was said to have been a teacher in around Baldwin, Ga. She and her husband John PARKER migrated to "Roberts Community" Conecuh, AL sometime after 1814. Family rummor is that Winnie HUNT PARKER was the first teacher in Roberts Community, but I can't find any documentation on this. She is believed to have died abt.1851 and might be buried in the Elim Babtist Cemetery, the church that her husband John PARKER is said to have help found. I would think that there would be some documentation on a Creek woman who was the first teacher in of a town and who's husband was a founder of their local church, but I can't find any. Winnie HUNT PARKER's parents are even more of a mystery. I can't find any proof that they ever lived. They are said to be John HUNT who was "AKA - BIGBEE" and her mother, some people say was named Rebecca, but in Ann C. Water's book (An AL Historian) she writes that Winnie's mother was "Wulu". I have no idea what Wulu could mean. Doesn't seem like a complete Creek word, but I do not know the Creek language. I haven't been able to find anyone who knows much about this family. Their decendents, yes, but not the ancestors of Winnie HUNT. Seems as if her parents didn't survive to live in the 1800s. I don't know though. Any information is helpful. Thank you. Vonda

Can someone who access to some census's please do a check for me. I have a Charles A. Brown who married Anna "Elizabeth" Warford in 1844. Charles was born in about 1820 to 1825 in Ark or Alabama. I think Arkansas.. Can someone please check the old census's and see if they can find out who his parents were? Does anyone know if the Warford's were indian?   I was told so.. I have seen it spelled Wafford and there are some Waffords on the rolls. They were in Tenn. and the Carolinas. Rebecca

--part1_84.19592ac1.2ca28f08_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 9/23/03 9:33:04 PM, kn_evaherrara@webtv.net writes: << need help finding a family of myers, 1900 census yell county, ark. could have been in calhoun Oklahoma in the 1900s. Mothers name Tennessee Myers, daughters ursie, urie, Eva, son lesley. >> Please email kn_evaherrara@webtv.net privately since that person isn't a member of this list, if you have any information. Best, Sandi List mom --part1_84.19592ac1.2ca28f08_boundary Content-Type: message/rfc822 Content-Disposition: inline Return-Path: <listadmin-bounces@rootsweb.com> Received: from rly-xh05.mx.aol.com (rly-xh05.mail.aol.com [172.20.115.234]) by air-xh04.mail.aol.com (v96.6) with ESMTP id MAILINXH42-4af3f711e6d21d; Wed, 24 Sep 2003 00:33:04 2000 Received: from lists2.rootsweb.com (lists2.rootsweb.com [207.40.200.39]) by rly-xh05.mx.aol.com (v96.6) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINXH59-4af3f711e6d21d; Wed, 24 Sep 2003 00:32:45 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by lists2.rootsweb.com (8.12.8/8.12.8) id h8O4WUk0030609 for IT-INDIAN-CHAT-admin@lists2.rootsweb.com; Tue, 23 Sep 2003 22:32:30 -0600 Date: Tue, 23 Sep 2003 22:32:30 -0600 X-From_: kn_evaherrara@webtv.net Tue Sep 23 22:32:30 2003 Received: from mail.rootsweb.com (mail.rootsweb.com [192.168.16.34]) by lists2.rootsweb.com (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id h8O4WU3Z030592 for <IT-INDIAN-CHAT-L-request@lists2.rootsweb.com>; Tue, 23 Sep 2003 22:32:30 -0600 Received: from smtpout-3102.bay.webtv.net (smtpout-3102.bay.webtv.net [209.240.204.193]) by mail.rootsweb.com (8.12.8/8.12.4) with ESMTP id h8O4WTWP016029 for <IT-INDIAN-CHAT-L-request@rootsweb.com>; Tue, 23 Sep 2003 22:32:30 -0600 Received: from storefull-2218.public.lawson.webtv.net (storefull-2218.public.lawson.webtv.net [209.240.213.80]) by smtpout-3102.bay.webtv.net (WebTV_Postfix+sws) with ESMTP id 2574ABE45 for <IT-INDIAN-CHAT-L-request@rootsweb.com>; Tue, 23 Sep 2003 21:32:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from production@localhost) by storefull-2218.public.lawson.webtv.net (8.8.8-wtv-f/mt.gso.26Feb98) id VAA02265; Tue, 23 Sep 2003 21:32:38 -0700 (PDT) X-WebTV-Signature: 1 ETAtAhUAlrdUaBtj1vTpiiLJI4jqu7h02I8CFDL6eIrdVvCEIYUg7WKWiTgOE3/Z From: kn_evaherrara@webtv.net (Leona) Old-Date: Tue, 23 Sep 2003 23:32:38 -0500 (CDT) To: IT-INDIAN-CHAT-L-request@rootsweb.com Subject: Myers Message-ID: <11385-3F711E66-8125@storefull-2218.public.lawson.webtv.net> Content-Disposition: Inline Content-Type: Text/Plain; Charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit MIME-Version: 1.0 (WebTV) X-Diagnostic: Unprocessed X-Envelope-To: IT-INDIAN-CHAT-L-request X-AOL-IP: 207.40.200.39 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) need help finding a family of myers, 1900 census yell county, ark. could have been in calhoun Oklahoma in the 1900s. Mothers name Tennessee Myers, daughters ursie, urie, Eva, son lesley. --part1_84.19592ac1.2ca28f08_boundary--

Dawes and Miller applications for Johnsons. Cherokee's. Does anyone have these applications transcribed?  I desperately need them. Or does anyone have any information at all about them... Elony Johnson. 22936 dawes James M. Johnson   15425 Miller Frankie Johnson   753M   Dawes If anyone has them.. Please, Please can you be so kind as to send me them.. I really desperately need them. Rebecca

Please do Jackie. And Thank you very much. Vonda ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jackie Tolbert" <plantlady25@juno.com> To: <IT-INDIAN-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, September 13, 2003 9:41 PM Subject: Re: [IT-INDIAN] Parkers for Vonda > Vonda, there is a lady on another list I am on that has posted regarding > the name you found > on a foot stone at a Parker grave. She also has Parkers. Do you want me > to send your email addy to her? > I can't without your permission. > > Jackie > > > ==== IT-INDIAN Mailing List ==== > To subscribe to our Chat list please send a message to IT-INDIAN-CHAT-L-request@rootsweb.com that contains the word subscribe or to subscribe to the digest mode, send the command instead to > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > >

Vonda, there is a lady on another list I am on that has posted regarding the name you found on a foot stone at a Parker grave. She also has Parkers. Do you want me to send your email addy to her? I can't without your permission. Jackie

I just know that John HUNT aka BigBee and Wulu were lost during the Removal. They were Creek Indian. I don't know how to find any information on them. Anyone else searching for Creek ancestors during the time of Removal? Vonda

Thank you very much Sandy! Hope you are doing well. I figure that someone's gotta know this family. Thanks again. Vonda ----- Original Message ----- From: <SandKatC@aol.com> To: <IT-INDIAN-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, September 12, 2003 10:40 PM Subject: Re: [IT-INDIAN] Family Name SAPPELOKE > Hey Vonda: > > I did a google.com search using "Sappeloke" and came up with the below. > Check it out. > > Best, Sandi > > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/PARKER/2003-07 > > > ==== IT-INDIAN Mailing List ==== > To subscribe to our Chat list please send a message to IT-INDIAN-CHAT-L-request@rootsweb.com that contains the word subscribe or to subscribe to the digest mode, send the command instead to > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > >

Hey Vonda: I did a google.com search using "Sappeloke" and came up with the below. Check it out. Best, Sandi http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/PARKER/2003-07

An ancestor cousin of mine has a family name written on the foot of her headstone. My ancestor is Magdalene (PARKER-maiden) She married many times: Barlow Rice Smith Chapman. At the foot of her headstone is written "Misty Star Sappeloke". Magdalene PARKER was born: October 29, 1926 Grady Co., GA. died: January 13, 1997 Atlanta, Ga. I was told that her brother Clarence FILED CLAIM #50510 USING EASTERN CREEK NUMBER 11245 (MARY SAPP ) I have no idea what claim nor with whom for what...ect... Her father was William Walter PARKER born December 12, 1872 Jackson Co., Fl. died May 21, 1953 Grady Co, Ga. s/o Robert Samuel PARKER and Mary Barrow (SAPP?). I am told that other family members also have the name Sappeloke at the foot of their headstones as well. Does anyone know of this family? Why the name on the headstones? Does anyone know of the town/ territory in Alabama called Fish Pond? Sappeloke is on the 1832 census in Fish Pond. Female. There's no other information. Anyone have any ideas? I need lots of suggestions, any suggestions. Thank you. Vonda

In a message dated 9/6/03 9:06:10 PM, ford56@pacbell.net writes: << Sorry it has taken me so long to get back to you, but no I have not checked the usgenweb, I do live by the National Archives in Calif and have done some checking there but unable to locate much on him. >> Judy: You need to check the Fort Worth National Archives. That's where all the Indian Territory stuff is kept. Click on the below for the archives on the net. <A HREF="http://www.nara.gov/nara/nail.html">NAIL Homepage</A> Best, Sandi Frazier Park, California

Sorry it has taken me so long to get back to you, but no I have not checked the usgenweb, I do live by the National Archives in Calif and have done some checking there but unable to locate much on him. Other family names his wife Allie(Alabama A. Williams)Hatcher and their oldest (Child)daughter Bertha M. Hatcher was my grandmother and married my grandfather Claud D. Hays(sometimes it is spelled wrong as Hayes)in 1901 in Choctaw Ok. Judy SandKatC@aol.com wrote: > In a message dated 8/19/03 8:26:27 PM, ford56@pacbell.net writes: > > << my great grandfather WYL Hatcher (William Yancey > Lafayette Hatcher) was married to my great grandmother Alabama A. > (Williams)Hatcher, anyway they lived in somewhere in Choctow Oklahoma he died somewhere > between 1898 >> > > Hi Judy: > > Have you checked census records? Have you checked the Choctaw County site in > the USGenWeb? You should join their county email list and post your query. > Also, you might see if there is a HATCHER-L email list on rootsweb and join > that and post a query. > > What are your other family surnames? > > Thanks, Sandi > > ==== IT-INDIAN Mailing List ==== > To subscribe to our Chat list please send a message to IT-INDIAN-CHAT-L-request@rootsweb.com that contains the word subscribe or to subscribe to the digest mode, send the command instead to > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237

I just received this copy of a post - I was told (handed down over years ofcourse) that I am part Indian and I am interested in searching out this part of my family history. I was told my Great Grandmother was part Cherokee but have found no evidence. If there is someplace I can get a start on that aspect of my history it would be great. Barb >From: RKi4222422@aol.com >Reply-To: IT-INDIAN-L@rootsweb.com >To: IT-INDIAN-L@rootsweb.com >Subject: Re: [IT-INDIAN] Procedure for Finding Out If I Have Indian Blood >Date: Tue, 2 Sep 2003 16:41:12 EDT > >Try BBBenge@aol.com > > >==== IT-INDIAN Mailing List ==== >To unsubscribe, please send the command "unsubscribe" to >IT-INDIAN-L-request@rootsweb.com (if in mail mode) or >IT-INDIAN-D-request@rootsweb.com (if in digest mode.) > >============================== >To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, >go to: >http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > _________________________________________________________________ Get MSN 8 and help protect your children with advanced parental controls. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/parental

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Please send info available for searching my genealogy as far as American Indian blood. Thank you, Melba King - melba.king@comcast.net

For locating the burial sites of missing ancestors i have had good luck at : <A HREF="www.findagrave.com"> www.findagrave.com</A> this has a lot of information and I have found numerous relatives this way. Good hunting, Steve