Dear Louise and List, I will be talking to an elderly PANTHER tomorrow that is in her late 80's but her mind is sharp as a tack. She comes from a PANTHER / MACKINDER marriage. With Best Regards Victoria Brittain Allen First On Line Directory 1917-1918 Online Directory http://brittainsbookbarn.homestead.com ----- Original Message ----- From: louise leo <lleo@webworkz.com> To: <IT-INDIAN-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, March 29, 2001 11:25 PM Subject: [IT-INDIAN] Panther RElatives > Looking for information on John S. Panther born1814 in N.C,full Cherokee and > son Samuel > born 1845 in N.C. thanks ,Louise Second email: lleo51@hotmail.com > > > ============================== > Shop Ancestry - Everything you need to Discover, Preserve & Celebrate > your heritage! > http://shop.myfamily.com/ancestrycatalog > >

Looking for information on John S. Panther born1814 in N.C,full Cherokee and son Samuel born 1845 in N.C. thanks ,Louise Second email: lleo51@hotmail.com

In a message dated 3/29/01 3:08:04 PM, fourbinc@home.com writes: << Nancy Parrish rings a bell, but I'll have to cull back through my files to find it. I'll be in touch if I find a match. >> That family has many links. Some are Fitzpatrick, Ireton, Snell, Moncrief, Jones, etc. Hope that rings a bell for you. You could give me a time period and I can send names from that era. Wado, Sandi

I have Parrishs out of Canada. Anyone intersted in knowing about them? They came into the states in the early 1800's. I even have photos. They married into my Newberry line after marrying into the Benedict line. Sue

Nancy Parrish rings a bell, but I'll have to cull back through my files to find it. I'll be in touch if I find a match. Take care. Teresa ----- Original Message ----- From: <SandKatC@aol.com> To: <IT-INDIAN-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, March 29, 2001 5:45 PM Subject: [IT-INDIAN] JOHNSONS IN I. T. > > In a message dated 3/29/01 1:39:49 PM, fourbinc@home.com writes: > > << Hi Sandi. I'm looking in the same place for my Johnsons. Could you please > > send me whatever Johnson info you have? I'll share what I have as well. Wa > > do >> > > Hi Teresa: > > I have two Johnson families. > > Chickasaw: > > 1. CHARLES N. "BOGIE" JOHNSON - B. ? in England; d. ?, M. Abt 1836 REBEKAH > COURTNEY in MS. She was b. ? and d. 1845 near Tishomingo, I. T. Her parents > were ? COURTNEY and SALLIE TARNTUBBY. > > Choctaw: > > 1. JAMES BURR JOHNSON - B.Abt. 1795 in GA ?; d. 1851/1899 in Clark Co., MS. > M. Abt. 1824 NANCY PARRISH in Jones Co. MS ? She was born Abt. 1807 in the > Choctaw Nation, MS, and died Abt. 1849 in Clark Co., MS. Her parents were > ANTHONY PARRISH and POLLY. > > Please let me know if you need more information to see if your Johnson family > links with either one above. > > Wado, Sandi > > > ============================== > Search over 1 Billion names at Ancestry.com! > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/rwlist1.asp >

In a message dated 3/29/01 1:39:49 PM, fourbinc@home.com writes: << Hi Sandi. I'm looking in the same place for my Johnsons. Could you please send me whatever Johnson info you have? I'll share what I have as well. Wa do >> Hi Teresa: I have two Johnson families. Chickasaw: 1. CHARLES N. "BOGIE" JOHNSON - B. ? in England; d. ?, M. Abt 1836 REBEKAH COURTNEY in MS. She was b. ? and d. 1845 near Tishomingo, I. T. Her parents were ? COURTNEY and SALLIE TARNTUBBY. Choctaw: 1. JAMES BURR JOHNSON - B.Abt. 1795 in GA ?; d. 1851/1899 in Clark Co., MS. M. Abt. 1824 NANCY PARRISH in Jones Co. MS ? She was born Abt. 1807 in the Choctaw Nation, MS, and died Abt. 1849 in Clark Co., MS. Her parents were ANTHONY PARRISH and POLLY. Please let me know if you need more information to see if your Johnson family links with either one above. Wado, Sandi

In a message dated 3/29/01 1:10:15 PM, karen_riley@monterey.edu writes: << My family believes that there is Indian blood in our heritage, be we are unable to trace it. Please send any info to Karen_riley@monterey.edu Thank you >> Hi Karen: Welcome to the list. Please give us some names and dates for your old people so anyone with the same names or surnames will be able to check their information to see if there is a match. Thanks, Sandi Carter

Thanks for the advice!! I've never done this before, so... Here is what I know: 1) Jim R. Crow born approx. 1870-1875 m. unknown children: 2)John Irving Crow born approx 1890-1895 m. Martha Mary White born 1895 (MO) [parents: Dan White and Sara (Saria) Raleigh (Riley)] children: 3) Stonie Nida Crow (Herpich) (OK) born 1914 m. Mary Maxine Christensen (CA) born 1919 children: 4) Tansy Herpich (CA) born 1936 4) Leilani R. Herpich (CA) born 1938 4) Karen L. Herpich (CA) born 1940(?) Note: at 2) it is told that John Irving Crow was killed or died, but we don't know when. (I have a letter that was sent to John Irving Crow in Colorado dated 1924, however!) Martha Mary (White) Crow was then married to Frederick Herpick but they had no children. There may have been other children between John I. Crow and Martha M. Crow, but we don't know for sure. Likewise for Jim R. Crow. I know that there is a Joseph M. Crow, but I am unsure as to whether he was Stonie's brother or possibly an uncle...? Did all of that make any sense!!!??? I hope so, because I'm a novice at this whole geneology thing, and I've been getting nowhere. Any help is appreciated! Karen "Real isn't how you are made, it's a thing that happens to you...It doesn't happen all at once. It takes a long time. That's why it doesn't often happen to people who break easily, or have sharp edges, or who have to be carefully kept." -Margery Williams, The Velveteen Rabbit

Hi Sandi. I'm looking in the same place for my Johnsons. Could you please send me whatever Johnson info you have? I'll share what I have as well. Wa do Teresa Angle ----- Original Message ----- From: <SandKatC@aol.com> To: <IT-INDIAN-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, March 29, 2001 3:15 PM Subject: [IT-INDIAN] KIRKPATRICK & MAUPIN RESEARCH BRICK WALL > Hi all: > > I'm looking for any information on the below people: > > Emma Maupin, B CA 1853 Clay CO, KY (part Cherokee) > M ? Kirkpatrick, Chickasha, Chickasaw Nation, Indian Territory, now Grady CO, > OK. > > My Indian Territory research basically dwells in what is now Grady CO, Garvin > CO and part of what is now Caddo CO, all in Oklahoma. > > The surnames I am researching are listed below. > > Best, Sandi :) > > Researching*ALEXANDER*ALVERSON*ANDERSON*BINGHAM*BOND*BRAWNER*BROOKS* > CAMPBELL*DAVIS*FITZPATRICK*FLETCHER*FORD*GARRARD*HALL*HARRIS*HOLMES* > JOHNSON*MAUPIN*MONCRIEF*ST.ONGE*STURM*TIERY*TIREY*TYRE*TYREE*WALTHALL* > WARD*WILLIAMS*AND*MORE > > > ============================== > Visit Ancestry.com for a FREE 14-Day Trial and enjoy access to the #1 > Source for Family History Online. Go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/subscribe/subscribetrial1y.asp?sourcecode=F11HB >

Hi all: I'm looking for any information on the below people: Emma Maupin, B CA 1853 Clay CO, KY (part Cherokee) M ? Kirkpatrick, Chickasha, Chickasaw Nation, Indian Territory, now Grady CO, OK. My Indian Territory research basically dwells in what is now Grady CO, Garvin CO and part of what is now Caddo CO, all in Oklahoma. The surnames I am researching are listed below. Best, Sandi :) Researching*ALEXANDER*ALVERSON*ANDERSON*BINGHAM*BOND*BRAWNER*BROOKS* CAMPBELL*DAVIS*FITZPATRICK*FLETCHER*FORD*GARRARD*HALL*HARRIS*HOLMES* JOHNSON*MAUPIN*MONCRIEF*ST.ONGE*STURM*TIERY*TIREY*TYRE*TYREE*WALTHALL* WARD*WILLIAMS*AND*MORE

Dear Sandra and List, Have you checked my site ? The time frame might be just about right and it does list the wifes name too. Just a thought. I am so pleased that so many people have written me with success stories as far as finding family in Ottawa county. Gives me "happy tears." With Best Regards Victoria Brittain Allen First On Line Directory 1917-1918 Online Directory http://brittainsbookbarn.homestead.com ----- Original Message ----- From: <SandKatC@aol.com> To: <IT-INDIAN-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, March 27, 2001 6:52 PM Subject: [IT-INDIAN] DAVID FLETCHER > Hi all: > > I'm looking for information on David Fletcher. His line is: > > Descendants of Oren Gilbert Maupin > > 1 Oren Gilbert Maupin b: 1844 Clay CO, KY > ........ 2 Hattie Maupin b: 25 February 1889 Chickasaw Nation, I. T. > ............ +Husband Fletcher > ................... 3 David Fletcher > > Sandi Carter > > > > ============================== > Visit Ancestry.com for a FREE 14-Day Trial and enjoy access to the #1 > Source for Family History Online. Go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/subscribe/subscribetrial1y.asp?sourcecode=F11HB > >

Hi all: I'm looking for information on David Fletcher. His line is: Descendants of Oren Gilbert Maupin 1 Oren Gilbert Maupin b: 1844 Clay CO, KY ........ 2 Hattie Maupin b: 25 February 1889 Chickasaw Nation, I. T. ............ +Husband Fletcher ................... 3 David Fletcher Sandi Carter

I am searching for my great great grandmother. She was Indian and died in child birth, her parents were supposed to have taken the baby (my ggrandfather) to raise. Henry Mc Cracken. When he was 16 I understand he ran away from the Indians. Samantha was married to Eli Mc Cracken. Henry was born in abt.1850 in Oklahoma somewhere. Can anyone help? Claudia

I felt the below artice from Rootsweb Review would be of interest to all. Best, Sandi BARKING UP THE WRONG TREE. Many readers have expressed concern and outrage about a company known as FamilyDiscovery.com. If you have conflicts with this outfit, file complaints directly with the Federal Trade Commission's (FTC) Bureau of Consumer Protection: http://www.ftc.gov/ftc/complaint.htm . The FTC has the power to investigate your concerns and to take appropriate action. MyFamily.com, RootsWeb, and Ancestry are currently investigating these concerns, and will respond as appropriate under current Fair Use Copyright and Truth in Advertising laws. As a public service to the genealogy community, the GENEALOGICAL WEB SITE WATCHDOG lists some Web sites that provide misleading or inaccurate genealogical information. It also provides links for submitting Internet fraud complaints. See http://www.ancestordetective.com/watchdog.htm Previously published by RootsWeb.com, Inc., RootsWeb Review: RootsWeb's Genealogy News, Vol. 4, No. 11, 14 March 2001. RootsWeb: http://www.rootsweb.com/

I wanted to pass this on to you all. If you have any doubts about a website, especially one that requires payment for the usage, please go to the following URL. Best, Sandi http://blacksheep.rootsweb.com/shame.html This is the Hall of Shame website.

In a message dated 3/13/01 7:57:38 PM, Goldsage@aol.com writes: << Can you tell me if this Verden Cemetery in Grady Co., OK. is only a Native American Cemetery? The reason I ask is because I believe that one of my descendents is there and I wouldn't have thought to even look in OK. >> Hi Sue: There are Native Americans and those of European blood and mixtures of American/European blood buried at the Verden Cemetery. If you noted, some of the people were born in Europe. I have information on some as to where they were born and died and haven't added that to the list. Also, I have the locations in the cemetery where a lot are buried. Guess those things might need to be added. Whadda ya think? Also, I've added a lot of obits on people buried at Verden to the: http://cgi.rootsweb.com/~genbbs/genbbs.cgi/USA/Ok/GradyObits Still have a lot more to add. Best, Sandi

Hi Sandy and List Folks Can you tell me if this Verden Cemetery in Grady Co., OK. is only a Native American Cemetery? The reason I ask is because I believe that one of my descendents is there and I wouldn't have thought to even look in OK. Thanks Sue Simonich

Hi: The Verden Cemetery update is now online at the below URL for anyone researching family in the Verden area. Best, Sandi Carter ftp://ftp.rootsweb.com/pub/usgenweb/ok/grady/cemeteries/verden.txt

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