Hi Mary Lou of Sun Valley, Thanks for your input. I did check the FHS's bmd site yesterday and found the marriage of John & Eleanor but did not jot the date down. You saved me revisiting the site. From parish records I have birth and christening dates and they are all registered as children of John, butcher of Calbourne and Amelia. Her surname PRITCHETT, I got from the LDS website and it was confirmed on the list by Raymond King (Bridget) who found young John with the PRITCHETT grandparents in the 1851 census. His mom had died in 1850 giving birth to Elizabeth. The 3 girls and father John were all found in the 1851 census by Shirley Mundy. No record of a marriage has come up yet for John and Amelia which should have been c.1840-43 as he seems to have sired another John with Harriet Matthew in 1840 according to parish records. Thanks again and with kind regards, Terence