Hi My brick wall is my great grandfather, Samuel Holland. Born sometime between 1812 and 1820. In the 1851 census he was born at Sway, Hampshire. The 1861 census he was born at Kingston, Surrey. ( He was living at Kingston at the time) The 1871 census he was born on the Isle of Wight, Hampshire. And the 1881 census has him just born in Hampshire.. In the past couple of years I have read #1596208, Hampshire reel for Parish Church of Lymington, 1780- 1874. And #1278724, Bishops Transcripts for Boldre, 1596-1812. At that time I thought he may have been born earlier . Is there anyone who is searching Holland's on the Isle of Wight? Hate to write this could some kind person tell me where to go next in my search? Keeping my fingers crossed. Joan in wet B.C. Canada

Hello Joan, I just looked at the 1881 Br. Census showing Samuel 69, wife Sarah 49 and daughter Clara 13. Without entering Sarah as a spouse, I found a marriage for Samuel HOLLAND on FreeBMD (Kingston District - Jun 1867 quarter - Vol 2a, Page 382). (It was the only Kingston marriage for a Samuel Holland from 1837 to 1885 - my thinking was they were likely married where Sarah was born ?? and you said he was living in Kingston in 1861) Unfortunately, there are two marriages on that page and both brides are "Sarah" (Sarah Jane PITMAN and Sarah RANSFORD). I suggest that you order the marriage certificate for both of them to see if either one is yours, and see what info is shown (age at marriage, parents' names etc) The other route you might take is to go to www.1837online.com (a pay-per-view site) and find the index reference for Clara's birth about 1868, order her birth certificate which will show parents names etc. I just ordered 9 certificates from the GRO in Merseyside by mail and they arrived in 2 weeks. With the index reference, they cost 8.50 GBP; 2.66 exchange to Canadian made it about $23.00 Cdn. A bit pricey, but perhaps not to leap a brick wall. Also if Samuel was born in 1812, and the marriage was in 1867, he was 55. Not impossible, but unlikely it was his first marriage. Was he with a wife at 1851 or 1861 census? You'll see on the certified copy of the marriage register whether he was a bachelor or widower. Contact me off list if you'd like to see a scan of my marriage & birth certificates. Does anyone else have a quicker or cheaper route to suggest? Regards, Janet Bush (in sunny Ontario, Canada) ----- Original Message ----- From: "Joan Burns" <jobud@telus.net> To: <ISLE-OF-WIGHT-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, June 12, 2004 8:32 PM Subject: [IoW] HOLLAND > My brick wall is my great grandfather, Samuel Holland. Born sometime between 1812 and 1820. In the 1851 census he was born at Sway, Hampshire. > The 1861 census he was born at Kingston, Surrey. ( He was living at Kingston at the time) > The 1871 census he was born on the Isle of Wight, Hampshire. > And the 1881 census has him just born in Hampshire.. > > Joan in wet B.C. Canada > > > > >