Thanks Ann, I have a Kingswell marrying into my Griffiths family, Augustine Nathaniel Kingswell born 1855 at Appuldurcumbe , I only have Elizabeth as his mother. I would be grateful if anyone who is researching Kingswell, could tell me if this is Augustines parents. Augustine married my Frances Ann Griffiths 22/11/1879. Regards Anne Shilton _________________________________________________________________ Express yourself with cool emoticons - download MSN Messenger today! http://www.msn.co.uk/messenger