Thanks so much Jon! Hopefully, someone has a copy gathering dust on a bookshelf and would be prepared to do a quick lookup to see what's what on Crocker Street. Many thanks for the tip. Julie ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jon Baker" <jon@vectis10w.freeserve.co.uk> To: "Julie" <julie.blissett1@ntlworld.com>; <ISLE-OF-WIGHT-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, September 09, 2004 7:54 PM Subject: RE: LAMBRETT in Newport > Julie > I can't help much but I recall there is a book on Newport pubs (of which > there were once many). Its possible that this may have a snippet of > information that may help. Someone on the list may have a copy they could > refer to. > > Jon Baker > > -----Original Message----- > From: Julie [mailto:julie.blissett1@ntlworld.com] > Sent: 09 September 2004 00:03 > To: ISLE-OF-WIGHT-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: LAMBRETT in Newport > > > I have a conundrum that I'd like to throw at the list as I've been pondering > this situation for a couple of weeks and don't seem to be able to get my > head around it. Maybe someone with local knowledge will be able to see a > connection and help me make sense of what I have gleaned so far. Everyone > has been so helpful in the past and even the smallest hints and pointers > have enabled me to get so far down this rather addictive road! > > I received recently the (elusive) 1849 marriage certificate for William > TUCKER (no dob) and Rhoda LAMBRETT (born c 1830 from later census), both > born in Newport IOW although the marriage took place in Waterloo, Lambeth. > > On it, Rhoda states that her father was James LAMBRETT and that he was a > Brewer. The marriage was witnessed by a Martha LAMBRETT. I can find no > record of James, but find in Pigots Hampshire directory for 1841and 1842, > Martha is listed at the Wag(g)on & Horses, Crocker Street, Newport. > > There is also a Ben MEW listed on Crocker Street, as a Brewer and Maltster > in the same publication for the same years. > > A search on A2A turned up the following reference from the MEW family of > Newport, Brewers, dated May 16, 1837: > > 'Deed for securing £300 and interest [from scope and content] Secured on > four messuages, two on the north side of Crocker Street and two on the west > side of Holyrood Street, Newport, all lying together in the several > occupations of William Cook, James LAMBRETT, Henry Brown and Charles Fowler > as tenants.' > > My thinking is perhaps that James and Martha are Rhoda's parents and they > were in occupation at the Wagon & Horses as Tenants of the Mew Brewery, but > I would dearly love to find some confirmation as I'd hate to go off at a > tangent and end up barking up someone else's family tree! > > Just to add a little spice to the story, Rhoda and William had a son, > William Alfred, in 1845 - when Rhoda was only 15 years old if later census > entries are to be believed, and four years before they were married! On his > birth certificate, both William and Rhoda TUCKER (the latter was referred to > as 'formerly LAMBRETT' although they were definitely not wed at the time of > his birth) gave Crocker Street, Newport, as their address. Perhaps William > was already married at the time of their son's conception, or perhaps they > waited four years for Rhoda to be less a child herself but her age was > listed as 'full' on the wedding certificate? Pre civil registration, how > easy was it to lie about your age when you wed? > > I have found no trace of Martha or James on Family Search, Ancestry, Free > BMD, 1871, '81 '91 or 1901 censuses nor have I found a death for either of > them. A soundex search returned over 137,000 possibilities with more common > names like Lambert, Lambeth etc., included in the result which is a little > daunting to say the least. > > I have found several other LAMBRETTs on the island through the IOW FHS BMDs > but most of these seem to have come from a marriage in 1845 between a > William LAMBRETT and Jane Marshall. > (Children William and John b. 1847, > Emma Jane b. 1848, > Jessy b.1850, > another William b. 1852 - so presume the first William died in infancy - > and James b. 1854.) > > In addition to the above and from the same source, there was a George > LAMBRETT b Newport in 1843 with the mother's name listed as ADAMS. George > seems to have moved to the mainland in later census (Gravesend in Kent) > married and had three daughters - one of whom he called Rhoda! > > Angela McMurtry was kind enough to find my Rhoda living in Southampton as a > stray in the 1851 census. Apparantly now widowed by William's death, she > listed herself as a 'retired publican' although I can't find her anywhere as > a publican in the first place! (The Pubs Index site is having some > difficulty lately) and Ancestry has yet to transcribe the 1871 for > Hampshire. > > For those of you who have stuck with my tome and read down this far, I thank > you for your tenacity! I'm open to all theories, conjecture, wild guesses > and stabs in the dark - as I'm beginning to think I can't see the wood for > the trees! If anyone local knows of any records of the Mew Brewery, or has > any information on the Wagon and Horses on Crocker Street, or just wants to > have a go at stringing the above together, I would really welcome your > views. > > Many thanks in advance - just for being there and sharing the same passion > for this stuff (because no-one else in my household understands it at all!) > Julie > > ______________________________ > > >

Just thought I would mention "Wightwash". This is a quaterly magazine devoted to all the hotels on the Island. I have had a lot of contact with the editor -lives in the same village I used to: Rookley- and I'm sure he would be able to assist with pub names both past and pressent. I have not asked him, But I doubt he would mind me giving you his adress:- Tim Marshal editor@wightwash.org.uk Good Luck Derek in Vanuatu. > Thanks so much Jon! Hopefully, someone has a copy gathering dust on a > bookshelf and would be prepared to do a quick lookup to see what's what on > Crocker Street. Many thanks for the tip. > Julie