hi all, still researching the DE SA family and wondered if anyone can help with this new info,manoel DE SA had children with a lady called hester BROWN they never married as manoel had a wife that had gone back to portugal,hester ran a lodging house in melville street ryde after manoel died in 1844,she lived there with their children who it would seem "worked "there too,one of them being paul DE SA a photographer later in life,i have all i need on the kids,manoel thier son being my 3x granfather,i am still stuck at manoel snr and hester.can anyone help. cheryl. _________________________________________________________________ Tired of 56k? Get a FREE BT Broadband connection http://www.msn.co.uk/specials/btbroadband