Hi Ann Looking at the 1851 census Henry and Jane Lacey, husband and wife, were recorded at "Oldhouse Farm", in the parish of St Helens (Class: HO107; Piece: 1664; Folio: 326; Page: 18). Their ages are 42 and 46, which of course do not match up with the newspaper reports. Henry was born Carisbrooke, Jane in Tamworth, Staffs. Obviously neither are expected to appear at home in the 1861 census, but I looked for Oldhouse Farm to try to locate it more accurately. Eventually I found "Old House" occupied by George & Matilda Brook (RG9; Piece: 658; Folio: 147; Page: 12), and the next record is Old House Cottages occupied by Thomas & Charlotte Lacey. This is somewhere around Westridge House (the following record is Magpie Lane if anyone knows where that is/was). I would guess therefore that it is around what is nowadays Westridge Cross (Ryde Airport/Tesco Superstore) area. I can't find a reference to it on an 1866 OS Map so maybe it was by then not a farm but had been swallowed up by the southward expansion of Ryde. It would seem that Dr Oillard was not very good at aging the deceased, since she appears to have been actually between 56 and 63 (and not over 70). Its also not clear whether it was her husband that murdered her or perhaps it was her son. Of course it could be that the newspaper reporting in the 1860s was not very accurate (no different to nowadays). I can only find one recorded Susan Wilday nationally and Wilhay does not appear as a name in any census). She was born in Birmingham about 1820 according to the 1851 census, or Wolverhampton in 1818 according to the 1861 and appears to have married in 1866. Believe it or not one of the 2 possible spouses in the 1866 marriage is Henry Lacy!!! You don't mention any verdicts in the newspaper reports, perhaps they were not convicted. By 1871 Henry (58) and Susan (46 from Birmingham) were back on the Island at Brading Road, St Helens (Westridge), his occupation given as farmer out of business (Class: RG10; Piece: 1167; Folio: 60; Page: 5). Looks like some follow up to find the verdict at Winchester would be interesting to find out why Henry (or James) and Susan were not convicted, assuming that to be the case). Hope this helps. Have fun. Jon Baker Ann wrote: Does anyone know where Old Farm is or was?