Due to the amount of interest in Emma Elkins I decided to have a look in the 1861 Census COSHAM STREET ( RG09 654) Sarah ELKINS Head Widow Age 70 no occupation b Carisbrooke Emma ELKINS Dau Un Age 32 Dressmaker :-) b " Fanny ELKINS Dau Un Age 31 Dressmaker b " Alfred ELKINS Grand Son Age 17 b Newport Henry ELKINS Grand Son Age 10 b Carisbrooke William ELKINS Grand Son Age 10 b " George ELKINS Grand Son Age 7 b " Caroline ELKINS Grand Dau Age 1 " Frederick ELKINS Grand Son Age 2 b " Now what's the bet none of the grand kids looked alike and they were all illeg ? Well I am pleased to say that Alfred at least appears to have been born above board 1848 birth reg for Newport father HORNE. The others though :-) ..... ALL have no father registered ! There is another possibly daughter a Emma ELKINS b 1852 Newport no father recorded , a son George Molesworth Elkins 1853 Newport also with no father Also found two more recorded with no father - twins Thomas Elkins in 1861 and Charles Henry 1861 Newport A DNA sample from descendant of this line would be very interesting ! Now did they all belong to Emma or was Fanny also in the same line of business :-) Angela Never try to teach a pig to sing; it wastes your time and it annoys the pig. All mail scanned with AVAST 2008 No trees were killed in the sending of this message, but a large number of electrons were terribly inconvenienced