At 01:02 AM 15/07/2008, Susan Johnstone wrote: Dear Susan, your message was very hard to read with all those blue links. However, I think you want to know about a Barnabas GROVES who was living in Collingwood, Melbourne, VIC, AUS. - The Barnabas GROVES who died in VIC in 1879 was b.c. 1822 in Southampton, and was the son of Benjamin GROVES and Mary. No sign of any marriage or children here. GROVES marriages in VIC from IOW:- - Anna Maria GROVES, b. IOW m. 1870 James George WOOD - can't find Anna's death. However, I did unearth this one which looks like an IOW person - Mary Ann FARR, b.c. 1841, d. 1927 Camberwell, Melbourne, VIC, dau of William GROVES & Charlotte MOORMAN. Mary Ann m. 1862 in VIC to James Thomas FARR - John GROVES, b. IOW m. 1874 Miriam Sarah PHILLIPS [John b.c. 1854, d. 1927 Tatura, VIC, son of William GROVES & Charlotte MOORMAN] - Jennett GROVES, b. IOW m. 1878 George PAGAN [Jennett b.c. 1850, d. 1934 East Malvern, Melbourne, dau of William GROVES & Charlotte MOORMAN - that clinches that] - Arthur Henry GROVES b. 1858 Kyneton, VIC, d. 1934 Ballarat, VIC son of William GROVES & Charlotte MOORMAN. m. 1892 in VIC to Florence Teresa ROBERTSON - possible unmarried sister: Harriet GROVES b.c. 1854 d. 1938 Frankston, VIC dau of William GROVES & Charlotte MANNON (sic) - William GROVES b. 1856 Belfast, VIC, d. 1874 VIC son of William GROVES and Charlotte MOORMAN - Antony GROVES b.c. 1848 d. 1885 Tatura, VIC, son of William GROVES & Charlotte MOORMAN - Charlotte GROVES b.c. 1818, d. 1895 Tatura, VIC, dau of John MOORMAN - William GROVES b.c. 1818 d. 1896 Tatura, VIC, son of John James GROVES & Martha. - Daniel Barton GROVES b. IOW m. 1869 Ellen Augusta STONE [Dan b. c. 1840 d. 1897 Carlton, VIC, son of Henry GROVES & Matilda BLACK] - John Wesley GROVES b.c. 1842, d. 1908 Brighton, Melbourne, VIC son of Henry GROVES & Matilda BLACK - John Wesley GROVES, b. CORNWALL m1. 1867 in VIC to Sarah HALL. - John Wesley GROVES, b. LAUNCESTON, CORNWALL m2. 1876 in VIC to Louisa Matilda NEEDHAM. She b.c. 1848 d. 1933 Sth Yarra, VIC. That's enough for now - hope it helps David in Ballarat