I have put together a snapshot of the Vine Inn and its association with the WILLIAMS & SANDERS families, with help from Ann Ryder, as follows: According to "Ryde Pubs - an Illustrated History" the Vine Inn, Pier St was built around 1801 at the western end of Ryde foreshore - "its familiar twin roofs appear in several seafront engravings of that era". The first reference I have to a family connection is an 1828 directory which shows the innkeeper as E WILLIAMS (my 3xg grandfather). By the time of the IOW directory of 1838 and the census of 1841 his widow Mary WIILIAMS was the innkeeper of the Vine. Edward & Mary had 2 daughters that I know of (I think there are probably more siblings) - Sarah, born in 1810 who married Thomas SANDERS & my g.g. grandmother, Lavinia, who married E K MINTER (a Methodist and, I suspect, a teetotaller!!) Thomas SANDERS was the innkeeper at the Vine, Pier St in 1851 & 1861, he was also a builder and is credited with building the Victoria Arcade in Union St. An 1865 directory shows Thomas SANDERS at both the Vine, Pier St & the Globe, Castle St. The 1866 Burial Board petition lists Thomas SANDERS at Castle St and Henry SAUNDERS at Pier St. Thomas died in 1870. The 1871 census shows the innkeeper of the Vine, Pier St as Henry W Sanders. He is living there with his "wife", Catherine, & family - I have found no marriage for them. The IOW BMD death index shows that Henry Williams SANDERS died in 1880 at Ryde so I think it likely he was the eldest son of Thomas & Sarah. (Henry is shown as a post master at Pier St in 1861.) Catherine is also a SANDERS - her father was Cornelius SANDERS who was probably related to Thomas. The Vine in Pier St was demolished in 1871. Catherine SANDERS was the innkeeper of the Vine, Castle St in 1881 & 1891 and in 1895 the licence was transferred to the official receiver - I guess she'd had enough by then! She died in 1901. I hope this is of some general interest - if anyone has any details of this WILLIAMS family I would appreciate hearing from them. A Happy Christmas to everyone. Best regards ........ Ros.