Hi Ann & Cecilia, Thanks for the licence info - it's a bit early for our family I think. I have just discovered an 1828 directory which gives the inn keeper of the Vine as E. Williams! So, I guess Edward must have died between 1828 &1841. I wonder if he had any other occupation? I'm not sure which newspaper report you're referring to - the only one I've seen is the 1871 one reporting the demolition? All the best ........... Ros. On 17/12/2009, at 9:04 PM, Ann Ryder wrote: > Hi Ros > > Did you see "Vine Alehouses Licences Between 1766 - 1819 " > > < http://www.iwight.com/library/record_office/alehouses/ > detailed.aspx?id=1515&n=VINE > > > Licence Ref No: NBC6/1/94 Licence Date: 1802 Victualler: William > Salter Sureties: James Reynolds ...TO.. > > Licence Ref No: NBC6/1/110 Licence Date: 1818 Victualler: William > Salter Sureties: William Tooley & William Allen > > I have a copy of a newspaper report, do you have it? > > Best wishes Ann > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ros Fletcher" > <rosfletcher@iprimus.com.au> > To: "Ann Ryder" <delann@southbourneway.freeserve.co.uk> > Cc: <Isle-of-Wight@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Thursday, December 17, 2009 8:44 AM > Subject: Re: [IoW] Lavinia WILLIAMS > > >> >> Thank you Cecilia & Ann, >> >> I appreciate your help. I think the "godfather" idea is probably >> the right one, >> >> It was also interesting to read about the Vine Inn in those 2 >> sources (luckily I do have the CD of the back copies of the >> journal.) It would seem that the old building was demolished >> before 1870 and Thomas Sa(u)nders transferred the name and >> licence to 16 Castle St. He couldn't have been there long as I >> have his probable death as 1871. Apparently he was also a >> builder and is credited with building the Victoria Arcade in >> Union St. >> >> Thank you, also, Roy - I have tried the IGI for Lavinia in the >> past with no success and have only recently become aware of the >> HUMBER connection. I was able to find the reference to the >> marriage of Edward WILLIAMS to Mary HUMBER but I could not find >> Sarah Humber WILLIAMS' baptism. I'm not sure where I could have >> gone wrong? >> >> Thank you again and a Merry Christmas to all, >> >> Best wishes ........... Ros. >> >> On 16/12/2009, at 12:46 AM, Ann Ryder wrote: >> >>> You will find info on the vine Inn on this link < http:// >>> www.insula.vecta.btinternet.co.uk/RP1.html> >>> >>> And in in back copy iof IOWFH journal Vol 30 pg 32 Vine >>> demolition , I dont have a copy >>> >>> Best wishes Ann >>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ros Fletcher" >>> <rosfletcher@iprimus.com.au> >>> To: "IOW Mailing List" <ISLE-OF-WIGHT@rootsweb.com> >>> Sent: Tuesday, December 15, 2009 12:20 PM >>> Subject: [IoW] Lavinia WILLIAMS >>> >>> >>>> >>>> I wonder if SKS would do a look up for me at the Record Office. I >>>> would like the baptism and parents for Lavinia WILLIAMS born about >>>> 1824 in Newport, I think, and her sister, Sarah (Humber?) WILLIAMS, >>>> born about 1809. There's no rush I know everyone's busy at this >>>> time >>>> of year. >>>> >>>> Lavinia married Edward Kennet MINTER in 1845 and Sarah had a >>>> daughter >>>> that year who she named, surprisingly, Rosina Minter SANDERS. I >>>> wonder why Sarah would want to give her daughter her brother-in- >>>> law's >>>> surname? >>>> >>>> Another item of interest relates to the cover of last month's >>>> journal. In 1841 Lavinia's mother, Mary WILLIAMS, was the innkeeper >>>> of the Vine Inn then in Pier St. By 1851 Sarah's husband, Thomas >>>> SANDERS, had taken over. The 1861 census shows Thomas still the >>>> innkeeper and the Vine Inn between Sivier's Hotel & the Royal >>>> Victoria Yacht Club so I think that means that the Riviera Hotel >>>> was >>>> originally the Vine Inn?! Can anyone confirm? >>>> >>>> Best wishes ............ Ros. >>>> >>>> ************************************** >>>> You can contact the Isle of Wight List Administrator by emailing: >>>> Isle-of-Wight-Admin@rootsweb.com >>>> >>>> ------------------------------- >>>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ISLE-OF- >>>> WIGHT-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without >>>> the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >>>> >>> >>> >> >> > >