Newport Record Office has a lot of transcriptions of tombstones in various places. I don't know if they did St Mary's. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Angela McMurtry" <angelamciow@talktalk.net> To: <isle-of-wight@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, November 13, 2009 12:11 PM Subject: [IoW] Isle of Wight > >[...] I have also been along to St Mary's > Church in Cowes [....] > the majority of headstones are impossible to read. [...]

Hi Everyone ! Well here I am on the Island, have had a few email / browser issues but think it is now all sorted. I am loving every minute and have met so many friendly and helpful people, its just a shame I'm no good with names ! Jon Matthews has been an absolute gem and makes a wonderful tour guide - his specialty tour would be Cowes pubs ! My husband can't get use to "warm , flat beer" but is trying his best. Jon has introduced me to a lot of people and is a font of knowledge. I have attended an Isle of Wight Family History Society meeting , great to put a lot of faces to names. If you live on the Island and haven't been to one yet do come a long. I have been to Northwood Cemetery on numerous occasions and it is looking lovely at the moment in all it's autumn glory, I'm yet to have a close up encounter with a red squirrel though one did wave as it passed by the window of Northwood House when I called in. At Northwood House I visited the Cowes Heritage Groups display on Cowes Churches which was very informative. I have also been along to St Mary's Church in Cowes and have decided combing the graveyard will be in the too hard basket as the majority of headstones are impossible to read. I also attended a talk which was given on the Floating Bridge, to celebrate it being 150 years old. Other than that numerous trips in to Newport where I keep stumbling upon the PITTIS name whether it be buildings or plaques and MEW crops up all over the place. Newport is very busy but I prefer the more sedate Cowes. We have been to Arreton , Ryde, Calbourne , Shalfleet and Yarmouth but all were brief visits. I was impressed with the Church in Arreton and noticed the tombstones in that particular churchyard are in pretty good condition and not too difficult to read. Yarmouth is lovely and I was amazed at the High St, in census years everyone seemed to live on the High St and yet it's only a small road. I am going back again tomorrow to have a better look around. Also went in to St James Church and went along the pier and had a smile to myself when I noted a toll gate where you can make a voluntary donation , back in 1876 one of my ancestors was a leading protestor against the toll system introduced at the time which restricted access to the pier so I had great pleasure in not donating any money. Trying to keep it brief that's about it in a nutshell. The weather up until today has been pretty mild and dry so not too much of a culture shock . I am only a couple of hundred metres from the High St in Cowes so if anyone wants any photo's of houses, pubs or shops let me know. I haven't been to the Record Office yet as I have been literally run off my feet but hope to pay a visit next week to see what they have etc. I did meet Keir Foss at a book signing in Newport, he has just published a wonderful book on Calbourne . Have also joined a yacht club - that bit of news should please Mark Urry :-) , I was asked if I'd be interested in taking up sailing but the weather would have to improve considerably first ! Angela from Oz now living in Cowes

Hi listers I have a newspaper report of a trial of a convict transported to NSW (1825) which says he was convicted for stealing (amongst other things) "4 Hounsels". I have tried google and old dictionaries/encyclopedia but no result. I think it may be something to do with harness Any thoughts welcome Lorraine

Hi April There may be no relationship at all - it depends if Winifred purchased exclusive right of burial. Exclusive Right of Burial If you purchase an Exclusive Right of Burial you will receive a Deed of Grant. The Exclusive Right of Burial is limited to 100 years. If you own the Exclusive Right of Burial for a grave it does not mean you own the actual land. However, the owner of the Deed has the right to: * be buried in the grave if space is available * authorise further burials in the grave, where space is available, or the interment or scattering of cremated remains in or over the grave * place an inscribed memorial on the grave. The law says that the Exclusive Right of Burial for a grave cannot be sold for more than 100 years and authorities cannot go against that law. However, there is the facility to 'top-up' the lease every ten years. There is a fee payable for this. This way, the grave can stay in the family for as long as they wish, though ownership will never be issued for more than 100 years at any one time. You (or your family) can also renew the right at the end of the current lease. It is very important that you inform the authority if you change address, otherwise you may not receive a notice of renewal at the appropriate time.   If you hold the Deed it does not mean you own the Exclusive Right of Burial. The law on this is complicated and people are strongly advised to consult a solicitor to determine new ownership. Only one person can hold the Exclusive Right of Burial – it cannot be held jointly by family members.You can transfer or assign ownership of a Deed by completing the form titled 'Declaration, Indemnity and Application in respect of the transfer or assignment of an Exclusive Right of Burial'. This form is available at the Cemetery Office.   If you own the Right of Burial for a grave no one else can be buried in it if you don't want them to. Graves cannot be opened without permission in writing of the registered owner of the burial rights. The only exception to this is where the burial is to be that of the registered owner in which case no written authority is required. The law protects your rights as registered owner of the grave.   If or when all the owners have died, the ownership of the exclusive Right of Burial in a grave can be transferred from a deceased owner via that owner's estate. This can be very complicated and while there is a set procedure to follow, each case must be looked at individually. If you need to transfer ownership when all owners are deceased you will need to contact the cemetery office where staff will issue you with the relevant form to take to your solicitor so that he/she can arrange for a transfer to take place with due compliance with law.   If families choose not to purchase the Exclusive Right of Burial the deceased will be buried in an un-purchased grave (previously called a public grave). Other unrelated people will be buried in this grave if the family do not choose to purchase the Exclusive Right of Burial. The grave may have been used for burials previously.   So, do you know if Winifred purchased Exclusive right of burial?   By the way, I have DAISH in my tree. Was that Winifred's maiden name?   Best Wishes   Sally-Ann ________________________________ From: April <adale41@googlemail.com> To: isle-of-wight@rootsweb.com Sent: Sunday, 8 November, 2009 8:40:24 Subject: [IoW] BAKER/MORRIS/DAISH I have a little puzzle which at the moment I do not have the answer for and hoping that someone does know the answer. Wroxall Cemetery. WINIFRED FANNY BAKER  (nee MORRIS and DAISH)  buried  23/1/1951 age 64.  Plot  B.827. The same Plot is shared by GEORGE LAWRENCE HUMBER  buried  22/4/1936 age 71. EMILY HUMBER  buried  31/1/1966 age 59. Of what relationship were they to each other and is it a custom to share the same plot with another family? Kind regards. April    (nee MORRIS)                      New Forrest ************************************** You can contact the Isle of Wight List Administrator by emailing: Isle-of-Wight-Admin@rootsweb.com ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ISLE-OF-WIGHT-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ________________________________ From: April <adale41@googlemail.com> To: isle-of-wight@rootsweb.com Sent: Sunday, 8 November, 2009 8:40:24 Subject: [IoW] BAKER/MORRIS/DAISH I have a little puzzle which at the moment I do not have the answer for and hoping that someone does know the answer. Wroxall Cemetery. WINIFRED FANNY BAKER  (nee MORRIS and DAISH)  buried  23/1/1951 age 64.  Plot  B.827. The same Plot is shared by GEORGE LAWRENCE HUMBER  buried  22/4/1936 age 71. EMILY HUMBER  buried  31/1/1966 age 59. Of what relationship were they to each other and is it a custom to share the same plot with another family? Kind regards. April    (nee MORRIS)                      New Forrest ************************************** You can contact the Isle of Wight List Administrator by emailing: Isle-of-Wight-Admin@rootsweb.com ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ISLE-OF-WIGHT-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I have a little puzzle which at the moment I do not have the answer for and hoping that someone does know the answer. Wroxall Cemetery. WINIFRED FANNY BAKER (nee MORRIS and DAISH) buried 23/1/1951 age 64. Plot B.827. The same Plot is shared by GEORGE LAWRENCE HUMBER buried 22/4/1936 age 71. EMILY HUMBER buried 31/1/1966 age 59. Of what relationship were they to each other and is it a custom to share the same plot with another family? Kind regards. April (nee MORRIS) New Forrest

Thank you Joy, for directing me to the database of medieval soldiers. It is indeed a useful site. As you say, it does not cover my period of interest; however I have contacted the site, and will let you know if I get anywhere. Cheers, George On Sat, Nov 7, 2009 at 8:33 PM, Joy Langdon <joy.langdon@btopenworld.com>wrote: > There is a medieval soldier website www.medievalsoldier.org but it covers > the period 1369 - 1453 so stops too early for you George. Fascinating stuff > though! The website is the result of work by the University of Southampton > and University of Reading. Maybe it is worth contacting Southampton Uni to > see if they can advise on the possible location of any records? >

Thank you Mary for your good suggestion of checking memorial at Carisbrooke Castle. I have contacted Susan Higginbotham, who erected the memorial you mention. It is a memorial to Edward Woodville. However Susan had not looked for a list of the men who fell with Woodville in 1488 and does not know if one exists. If a list exists, it would be extremely useful. A preponderance of local names would indicate that the men were indeed from the island. It is very difficult to trace genealogies in this period, which predates the church registers. Also the Lay subsidies did not name individuals until 1522. There are few surviving wills from back then. We are left dependent on our ancestors being involved in land transfers or as witnesses or being mentioned somewhere else in manorial records or close rolls. If anyone else has any ideas on where a list of 1488 men might be found (perhaps in Brittany?), I would love to hear. Regards, George Legge (Melbourne)

There is a medieval soldier website www.medievalsoldier.org but it covers the period 1369 - 1453 so stops too early for you George.  Fascinating stuff though!  The website is the result of work by the University of Southampton and University of Reading.  Maybe it is worth contacting Southampton Uni to see if they can advise on the possible location of any records? Regards, Joy ________________________________ From: george legge <gandmlegge@gmail.com> To: marysilk <marysilk66@btinternet.com>; ISLE-OF-WIGHT@rootsweb.com Sent: Saturday, 7 November, 2009 1:20:07 Subject: Re: [IoW] Heavy loss of IW men in 1488 Thank you Mary for your good suggestion of checking memorial at Carisbrooke Castle. I have contacted Susan Higginbotham, who erected the memorial you mention. It is a memorial to Edward Woodville. However Susan had not looked for a list of the men who fell with Woodville in 1488 and does not know if one exists. If a list exists, it would be extremely useful. A preponderance of local names would indicate that the men were indeed from the island. It is very difficult to trace genealogies in this period, which predates the church registers. Also the Lay subsidies did not name individuals until 1522. There are few surviving wills from back then. We are left dependent on our ancestors being involved in land transfers or as witnesses or being mentioned somewhere else in manorial records or close rolls. If anyone else has any ideas on where a list of 1488 men might be found (perhaps in Brittany?), I would love to hear. Regards, George Legge (Melbourne) ************************************** You can contact the Isle of Wight List Administrator by emailing: Isle-of-Wight-Admin@rootsweb.com ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ISLE-OF-WIGHT-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hello to all, According to several accounts, Edward Woodville, Captain of the Isle of Wight, in 1488 raised a force of over 400 Isle of Wight men and took them to assist the Duke of Brittany fight the French king. Two months later, it is claimed, a lone survivor (of the entire army) returned to Brading parish. This would have had a catastrophic effect on the island's manpower and on many families and their lineages. Does anyone know if there exists a list of those who died in the battle (or those enlisted = same list)? It is a faint hope, but genealogically it was an important event. Regards, George Legge (Melbourne).

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yes not all text is how it should be but when you have one trying to decipher and a 12year old patiently listening and typing it, so Beggars cant be choosers : ) ttfn Lesley _____ From: SALLY-ANN GARRETT Hi Lesley Well done for the hard work in transcribing this information. The Isle of Wight bit is just lovely, and the names are very familiar. Is the lack of capitalisation of words part of the original text? e.g. and saw little jane the young cottages grand? I look forward to reading more, Sally-Ann

HORNBY Diary part 3 July 18th, went to St John’s Episcopal chapel in the morning the Text was 5th Gal 6th verse. In the afternoon, walked to Carlton then on the top of which there are several buildings, by high school play fairs monuments Duggal Stuarts Burns and the national, one which has never been finished owning to be short of funds there is also an observatory and Nelsons monument which I ascended had a very fine panoramic view of the city, in the evening went to the high church heard an excellent sermon preached, text 4 ch st Natch 41 5th verse. July 19th went by Omnibus to Roslyn Castle 6/7miles from Edinburgh, saw the ruins also of the chapel which are very fine also the apprentice pillar architect of ----- is very beautiful a garland of flowers trained around the pillar there is a legend connected with it which is the master of the apprentice being from home the young man had finished the pillar according to his own designs this encouraged the man that it was sons he murdered him through jealousy? We had a long winding walk from the castle to the river Gok which is a very ma-n stream dashing over some very large stones, almost like a fall. After which returned to the Ford? Dined and went to Edinburgh at 4pm. In the evening took the omnibus to Port-ello 3miles distance, it is a fine bathing place. We returned at 9pm and spent a very delightful day. 20th July, in the morning walked to the castle and saw the regalia which is very beautiful, also Queen Mary’s room where her son James 6th of Scotland the 1st of England was born, and the chapel we were in the windows of stained glass, very handsome sepusentry? Different figures. In the after noon, went to the institution to see statuary and paintings I was very much pleased. July 21st, rode to Leith 2miles distance off, is a very old sea port town. 22nd July, went by rail to Granton 3/4 miles off, returned to tea at 5pm. 23rd July, returned to Lgooal?, left Edinburgh/Party? All arrived at Carlisle and stayed there. Two houses saw through the cathedrals castle, the ceiling of the cathedral is very handsome, painted in scarlet, something gold, the castle is very ancient, we went in one of the cells where the prisoners where formally confined. It is a fearful place, so dark, there being only an aperture in the wall to carry off the foul air. After having dined, we proceeded to the 2 o’clock train, and arrived at 20mins after 8 o’clock(pm). Had a very pleasant journey, having been in Scotland 3 days short of 6 weeks and been to the many places during that time. Went to Bristol on the 16th august 1858, stayed all night. The next morning being wet, we proceeded by rail to Bath a distance of 12miles, this is a very beautiful place, the houses in general are very handsome, particularly those in the presents and terraces, I walked to Lansdowne, thervoier? Which is a very steep assent. We stayed one night, there also saw through the Abby church which is a very old building and remained many years, something unfinished state for want of funds ---- -----. August the 18th, went by rail to Bristol, from Thence to clevedon 16miles distance, had tea there and took a Phoeton. Had a drive around by the houses the old church, this is a very pretty place The houses are very handsome built of stone and pleasantly situated on the hill. We returned, same evening, to Bristol, and went in the omnibus to Chifton 2and ½ miles. It is a delightful place. August 19th, had a drive of 50 miles in a phoeton all through the park to a place called Picepoint? Where there is a very extensive view of the river we walked through the old church yard, which was very pleasant. Returned, so dined after having enjoyed ourselves very much. In the afternoon, we walked to the cliffs and observatory and down the zigzag walk to the baths and situated in the banks of the Severn, the river here is narrow not much wider than a canal, but is sufficiently wide and deep for a steamer to sail upon it. August 28th, returned to Bristol, proceeded by rail to Cheltenham 44 miles distance, where we stayed a night. we had a very good Opportunity of seeing the town, though the time was thats by taking a drive around this prinapell? Streets where all beautifully planted with trees at the edge of the parapal? Which gives the town a very pleasant appearance. We returned next day to Liverpool. Left L’pool for London Ramsgate and the Isle of Wight June 28th 1865 For then on the evening of our arrival went to Madame Tussauds exhibition of wax works and the following morning to the tower for the 3rd time I visited it. For the afternoon took the train to Ramsgate about 60 or 70 miles distance. After taking some refreshment had a walk on the pier after which took ipantoment? On the Plains of Waterloo which I thought is very washlike name. we remained there a week and enjoyed it much. Friday 30 went by waggon? To Margate 3 or 4 miles off but did not like it really - - to Ramsgate. July 1 took the train in the afternoon to Herne Bay 16 miles distance it is a – quaint place for those who like utriment?. The –nce? was high and the air felt very bracing. July 2nd in the morning went to Trinity Church and heard a sermon from this text 10 ch 2 for 4.50 .in the morning went to the Parish Church the text 17 – Math 11 verse. after which took a walk to a village called St Lawrence town by Pegwell bay it was most delightful through shady lanes and the moon just rising appeared most fantastic . Monday july 3rd had a donkey ride to Broadstairs through north foreland, Kingsgate ,St Peter's and returned to Ramsgate and enjoyed it much. July 4th took a drive in the afternoon to Minister? 5/6 miles distance it was delightful, and we enjoyed it extremely. There is a pretty old church there and a little pleasant village. 5th July, left Ramsgate to Dover in the morning at a few minutes past 9 o’clock, on our way we stayed at Lemterbur? For a while and saw through the cathedral which is by Landsone in the interior there it was, the tomb of Thomas Abecket and we saw the -------- where he was murdered, also the place where the thrown had been where the pilgrims went to worship, and the ------ ------- had been removed the part where the thrown had been, we proceeded to Dover in the afternoon and only remained one night because we did not like it, the next day proceeded to the Isle of White by the way of Hastings St. Leamens and Brighton, we had on opurtunity of staying in Hastings 2/3 hours and took the Train for Portsmouth and arrived a little before 8 o’clock (PM) Just in time for the steamer to take us to Ryde. July 8th had a pleasant walk to Springvale, Sunday went to St. Thomas church in the morning and heard a great sermon by the vicker, his first was 6th-St Luke 40 verse. In the evening walked to St. James, heard another excellent sermin by the Rev Mr. Kellit was for the Jews the next being 18 St. John 36-Verus. July 10th Bathed in the morning, had a walk to St. Aug Nash ------- residence about a quarter of an hours walk. The grounds where throwen open to the public on that day they were beautifully land, only such a profession of flowers a great ------ of autumn, we enjoyed it so much. The land of the Folintcus? To ------ beside. July 11th Shower? Morning stayed in the afternoon went to Cowes by the steamer, walked along parade which is very intensive. Crossed over the river Madison to East Cowes on the Teloating? Bridge and had a pleasant walk to Osborne where the queen had only. Returned the night before, we also saw 2 yachts 12th took the train to Shanklin for Ventnor and – there by Omnibus in little more than an hour this is a beautiful place such picturesque scenery of open sea and very good bathing. We returned to Ryde by 6 oclock . I forgot to mention we took a walk to Bonchurch also a delightful place. 13 showery day went on the pier and it rained very heavily before my return . 14 took a delightful walk through Binstead to Quarr? Abbey which is an old ruin that’s very pretty part of it is now a farm house. Returned through Fishbourne and Wooton – 15th in the afternoon had a sail to Stokes Bay, All Angels 16th went to Binstead church and heard a sermon from this text 15 capt on Luke 30 verse. In the evening to st Jameswhere the text was from 37 to mark 35 then after service took a walk where we saw the church called St Michaels all Angels .—was much thanked to see it – just like a Roman Catholic Chapel .there – a high Altar with candles – large bunches burning at each side. The clergyman had his face turned towards it just like a Priest. On our way home we walked through the Cemetery. 17th –day went on the pier for a third time. 18th took the coach to Carisbrooke and saw the Castle which is a beautiful ruin there is a – house there it is 2 to 300 feet deep and the water is drawn by a wheel which is turned? by a Donkey. we returned by 5 oclock but unfortunately it rained all the way back. 19 bathed in the morning .had a walk round through st johns at oakfield church. For the afternoon the band playing upon the pier. 20 bathed in the morning after which took a long walk between 9 and 10 miles to spring vale, st Helens Ryde where we crossed the ferry to Bembridge and returned through Brading and saw little jane the young cottages grand. We took the train to Ryde. 21 morning had a bathe afternoon took a drive to –down where we had an extensive and most magnificent view of the Island. It is about 4 miles distance from Ryde 22nd bathed in the morning and went to hear the band play upon the pier in the afternoon. 23 Sunday in the morning walked to st Johns church and heard a good sermon from 1st – st John 2nd ch 2nd verse. In the evening went to St. Michael All Angels the high church and was much disgusted with the service which was intoned and the sermon was over in 10 minutes after which the – collected for the poor and when the money was taken to the altar which was a high the clergyman or priest I should say offered a prayer turning his back to the people. 24th my Birthday To be continued……Lesley

Hornby Diary pt2 Diary 3rd visit to London June 3rd 1857 4th sailed to Greenwich n Woolwich n saw The Great Eastern. Dined at Greenwich had tea at the latter ?place where the band played. Returned to London n spent a very pleasant day. 5th sailed to Kew dined there after which walked through the park took the omnibus to Richmond where we had tea at The Rose Cottage Hotel on the hill spent a delightful day June 6th at home – 7th (Sunday) a wet day went to st Lukes church Chelsea http://www.chelseaparish.org/ heard mr Hobbs preach he having been formerly curate of St Thomas’s Church Liverpool. His text was 10th ch Romans 10th. Walked in the evening to St Pauls Knightbridge. http://www.stpaulsknightsbridge.org/ 8th went to Sydenham http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sydenham for the second time saw a Chinese junk made of Ivory belonging to the ------, also a handsome leaves? China vase worth £2000. 9th at Home. 10th to the British Museum. 11th At Home 12th went by rail to Tunbridge Wells 47 miles from Londonit is a beautiful place we spent all day there. Returned in the evening having enjoyed it very much. 13th went to hear Albert Smith n was very much pleased, he is an excellent mimic n was very amusing. 14th (Sunday) heard Mr Springer preach a very good sermon from 15th rev? part of 3rd verse. In the afternoon rode through Camden town home, there had been a very extensive --- there at the station in the evening walked to St Peters church near Belgrave square, text God is love. 15th at Home 16th went by rail to Hampton Court n saw the Large Vine n also The duke of Wellingtons Canopy. There is a very old clock I think in the same apartment it only requires to be wound up once a year. 17th heared the Bishop of Ripon preach a sermon(for the Orphans and Widows of the Clergymen) at St Georges Hanover square stgeorgeshanoversquare. His text was 3rd ch 2nd for part of 6th verse the letter killeth but the spirit giveth life. 18th saw panorama of Russia and India in Leister Square ,they where both very good we enjoyed ourselves exceedingly. 19th went to the polytechnic n saw panorama n also a Diving bell was very much pleased. 20th spent nearly the whole day at the Coliseum was highly gratified there is so much to be seen the Swiss Cottage is very pretty you might almost fancy you were in serntge?lunch from its resemblance it is so good. 21st (Sunday) Went to Christ Church Chelsea in the morning ,evening to Trinity Brompton. 22nd rode to St Pauls Cathedral http://www.stpauls.co.uk/ , went to the Whispering Gallery and ascended as far as the Ball where very few dare venture. Saw also the Crypts was very much pleased. 23rd went by rail to Gravesend walked through Roshewille? Gardens which are not large but how very prettily laid out Gravesend is 22 or 24 miles from London. 24th sailed to Sheemess Had tea there n returned the same evening to London. 25th went by rail to Southampton n crossed over to cowes Isle of Wight (where Her Majesty’s Residence is Osborne House) stayed there all night. Took the coach next morning 20th to Newport n went through Carisbrook Castle a very fine ruin we saw the window where Charles the first made his escape also the will drawn by a -o---? 27th by sail to Dover 88 miles from London having but a short time to spend there we took a phoeton through the towns ,saw the castle which is a very steep ascent ,we returned by the way of Folkstone where we stayed a night and the following day left for London. A very delightful trip 2nd returned to Liverpool. Went to Rhyl (July 4th 1854 with my Brothers child) Stayed there a Month dining which time rode several times to Bodelwyddan, St Asaph, caves of cefus? Bodelwyddan. Went by rail to Conway n sailed up the river at Treffen? and took a Phoeton to Capel? Carriage? about 15 miles stayed there all night n next day rode to Beddgelert n passed through Aberglaslyn the most beautiful scenery, stayed all night we also saw -----? The following day drove to Caernarfon returned by rail to Rhyl after a very pleasant excursion returned Aug 1st. First visit to Scotland June 15th 1858 stayed nearly six weeks. June 16th went to Cathedral at Glasgow and also the Necropolis which is very extensive there are a great number of very handsome monuments the most conspicuous being that of john Knox the Reformer it is very hefty? I was very much pleased it is the finest cemetery I have ever seen surpassing that of Pavle Chaise paris. June 17th walked through the citys the streets are very wide the shops Buchanan st are very handsome equal to any in London if not superior. June 18th sailed up the Clyde to Hellensburgh about 23 miles from Glasgow it is a very pretty watering place situated opposite to Greenock. We dined n had tea there and returned by rail after a very pleasant day. June 19th rode to the Botanic Gardens, where we heared a band of the Rifle Brigade we spent a very pleasant afternoon. June 20th walked to St Marys Episcopal chapel Benfield st I heard a very good sermon text 26 Acts evening went to Blythwood Square where we heard preach the Rev W Bus from London sermon from the new College at Malton? June 21st sailed to Greenock then to Lock Goil through Lock Long. Stayed there all night and proceeded next day by coach to St Catharines a distance of 8 miles n took the steamer accross (which is 3 miles) to Inveraray saw through the Castle (the residence of the Duke of Argyle) it is delightfully situated on the margin Of Lock Fyne it was a lovey night the moon being full the reflection on the Lake was Beautiful. returned next morning to Lock Goil by coach .took the steamer to Greenock two hours sail. Remained there all night. June 24th sailed to Arran 28 miles from Greenock stayed half an hour but did not land, dined on board the steamer n returned to Greenock n had tea. Stayed all night n went to the park n cemetery the latter being beautifully situated on the hill where you have a very intensive view. June 25th took the steamer to Rothsay which is a very pretty place about two hours sail from Greenock n returned to Glasgow after enjoying ourselves very much indeed. June 26th walked through the town and saw the different handsome buildings that where to be seen. 27th went to St James church Blythswood again in the morning text 8th ch Romans 23rd verse. Evening heared a sermon in the open air (non of the churches being open?) text 10 ch Hel 22 28th . rode to the west end park and went through the new free college which is a very handsome building Returned to the hotel to tea. 29th went by rail to Balloch 26 miles from there in a steam up Lomond at the head of the lake a place called Ardluie? Stayed there a short time from Thence to Inversnaid (where there is a fine waterfall) dinned there and took the coach to Loch Katrine and sailed up to the lake to the Trossacks a delightful sail and the ride to the hotel through the grove is beyond description the loch is 9 miles long, the scenery is very beautiful we stayed one night, took coach 6 o’clock next morning to Stirling about 4hrs if going it being 26miles from the Trossacks we breakfasted there after which walked to the castle where the was a very fine view of the surrounding country. In the afternoon we rode to bridge of Allen 2 and ½ miles from Stirling it is a very pretty place the air is soft and milled, we returned by Omnibus, had tea and went by rail to Glasgow 2miles, after enjoying the trip exceedingly. July 1st had a drive to Partick 3 miles distance from Glasgow. July 2nd walked through the towns also across the bridge to the other side of the river. July 3rd went by rail to Hamilton 11miles from Glasgow saw the palace, I walked through part of the grounds which are very extensive also was through the Mausolemn which is considered a great privilege it is very seldom strangers are not admitted, so we thought we were highly favoured this is a very handsome building all this former dukes of Hamilton are inturned there, we saw the tomb/sarcophagus of the late Duke who died 5/6 years ago, he is laid in an Egyptian coffin from which he bought from some part of the continent, it was suggested that he was put in after death. The mausoleum is a very lofty building lighted by a dome from the centre at the entrance, the floor is tiled which looks very handsome, the late duke is placed there opposite the door, the others are in vaults, under --- and we saw each separate coffin, I also saw the one that the late Duke was in brought from London, he having died and being embalmed. After dinner we rode to Rothwell 2miles off, there is a castle there, but as it was not the day to be admitted through we had been previously informed, we were disappointed at not seeing through for ------ I believe that the grounds were beautifully laid out. We returned by rail to Glasgow after spending a delightful day Not withstanding? The disappointment for they are good for us sometimes. July 4th wet day, walked to church in Benfield st, heard a very good sermon Morning & Afternoon, Text 22 22nd, 11 ch Heb first verse to the 5th had a very pleasant walk. 6th/7th July went by rail to Balek? lies 20miles from Glasgow sailed up loch Lomond to Ardlui near the head of the loch, took the coach to fort William, 68miles from our Delouse 108 from Glasgow we passed through Symdom where we dined at the vale of Glencoe where there was a dreadful massacre Jorty? Of the clan of the McDonalds being murdered for the reign of William 8th the scenery was magnificent and quite beyond description so wild in grand nothing could surpass it, it was 10’o clock when we arrived at fort William, passed by Block--- the latter at fort William, we stayed there 2 nights, the next morning being fine we had a very pleasant walk to the glen and glen and right next to it Orkney castle, a fine view of the margin of the Loch. Returned to the hotel, had tea, took another walk in the evening. Jully 9th sailed from fort William to Oban? In about 2hrs it is 30 miles distance from fort William, was a very pleasant saying. Saw Dunnall castle, stayed 3 nights there, it is a very pretty place situated on a very fine bay, the next morning at 7’o clock, took the steamer to Staffa and Tonay? We breakfasted and dined on board and had a very favourable day, which others not often occuore even in summertime,so, we thought we were very unfortunate, at Tonay, we saw the ruins of the monastery chapel/cathedrals, Abbuts house they are very fine, they where the tombs of the scottich/norwigian & French kings which were very interesting, we had a very intelligent guide, we remained an hour there, proceeded onto Staffa I saw Tingerlas cave and I walked to the end of it which is rather dangerous, but they are all very strong ropes to take hold off, which prevents you from feeling much afraid, I think it is considered the greatest natural curiosity in the world, this ------ is like our old cathedral several of the gentleman said, there voices were heard to advantage they being 100 sol and god save the queen, we reached Oban? In the evening at 7 o’clock had a very delightful day, I forgot to mention that we ascended to the top of the island and had a very extensive view. July 11th Sunday, went to Episcopal chapel morning and afternoon Text 11 ch 1 24th verse 42nd psalm 1, 2 & 3 versus. July 12th sailed from Ofary? to guinans? Up the canal to Adushoy hay, took the steamer from Vence to Glasgow, the distance from Oban to Glasgow being 120miles having ---- Journey at 8 o’clock all arrived at the latter 7 o’clock pm Dined, we enjoyed ourselves very much indeed . 13th July, had a pleasant walk in the morning and intended going to the collage gardens in the evening, ‘ad it been fine, but it was very wet, so we deferred until the next day when the weather was being favourable, we went and herd the band of the French national guards, I was very much pleased. July 15th went by rail to Edinburgh ---- 50miles distance from Glasgow stayed a week at the Albert Hotel, near purners st. 16th July, wet morning in the evening, walked to the old part of town went in a high church which was once divided into 3 separate churches, now only 2, one had accommodated 1650 persons, another 1600, the last one 900. 17th July, went to holy wood palace abbey park, I saw through queen Mary’s ---- after which took a car to the rail way, dinned there, and I walked to the zoological gardens which are not very extencive, but I was very much pleased there was a skeleton of a whale to be seen there, but very few animals.

Thought some of you might like to read this .This Diary was handed down through the Family. My 12y daughter and I are transcribing it and will put the complete text when finished .its hard to read some words. Some hotels are named and some of them still exist. Hornby Diary pt1 HORNBY Holiday Diary written between 1855 to 187? Second visit to London May19th 1855 expenses for three weeks - few days £ 7-13-8b Sunday 20th A Hundred? Morning service at Trinity Church Brompton walk to the park in the afternoon Evening to St Saviours church. Monday 21st went to the British Museum Tuesday 22nd to Sydenham Wednesday 23rd Shopping - Panther? Thursday 24th to Greenwich Friday 25th to Regents parks zoological gardens Saturday 26th to Chelsea Sunday 27th morning to Westminster Abbey Evening to st Pauls Knightsbridge Monday 28th to National Galleries Vernons ditto? Of British Artists Tuesday 29th to the city by the boat from London bridge Wednesday 30th went shopping by omnibus and lost my purse in Regent st Thursday 31st being a wet day stayed in the house all day Friday 1st June went to Covent Garden market and got an order for Windsor? Called at the confectioners and had Refreshments Saturday 2nd to Oxford st and bought gloves and kerchiefs returned through the park Sunday 3rd morning to st Georges Hanover square Evening to st James’s Piccadilly Monday June 4th to Brighton 51 miles from London two hours n half in going? Arrived by 11ocl Tuesday evening to Kensington Gardens Wednesday to Kew by the steamer One hours sail Thursday to Windsor had tea there I saw Eton college Friday had a glimpse of Her Majesty riding in an open carriage all through Hyde Park Saturday to the Great Western Railway Station to enquire about Oxford? 10th June Sunday to St Pauls Cathedral in the morning. Evening to St Lukes Chelsea where to my surprise a sermon was preached by Rev C P Hobbs test 14 ch prov 34 verse Righteousness exalteth a Nation. Monday 11th June went to Oxford 63 miles from London – 186 from Liverpool by Birkenhead Railway 165 miles. In the Evening walked through the Botanic Gardens Oxford. (Written vertically across the page)-Botanical to Liverpool June 12th after a very pleasant journey staying at Oxford my stay? 4.11 then expenses 13.5/2 Diary Visit to Chester on Thursday 26th July 1855 Daily account Friday 27th to Wrexham a distance of 12 miles from Chester n Ruabon 5 miles from Wrexham. We dined at Wrexham and went through the church it rained heavily there. We had tea at Ruabon n walked through the park n ascended the column of Sir Watkin W Wynn erected in 1789- there are 155 steps up to it. Saturday went to Llangollen, dined then ascended a very high mountain. Rode on a Donkey to Crucis Abbey 2 miles off returned by omnibus to station had tea in Chester. Sunday morning went to Cathedral. Monday went to Abergele 34 miles from Chester, dined there and walked to the Castle in the afternoon had tea n a ride on the shore returned the same evening to Chester spent a very pleasant day. Tuesday rained all day until evening when we went to Curzon park with miss Higgins. Wednesday to Hollywell n Rhyl dined at the formel? Place n had tea at Rhyl n had a ride in a Donkey carriage to Rhuddlan Castle 3 miles off. Thursday to Park Gate dined there n had an hours ride on a Donkey walked 5 miles to Hooton station it rained heavily nearly all the way to the station which was not at all pleasant. Friday shopping n to Museum Saturday to another Museum Beeston 11 miles from Chester n walked to Banbury 2 miles off. Dined there n saw the Castle. Beeston Castle Returned to Chester expenses £5.6.1 Visit to Harrogate Scarbro’ n Buxton May 24th 1856 Saturday Sunday 25th morning to chapel of East High Harrogate. Evening to parish church lower Harrogate Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday walked to different places in the neighbourhood. Thursday to Knaresborough saw the Castle ruin Knaresborough Castle ruin . Returned to Harrogate the same evening Friday to Ripon Studley the former 11 miles from Harrogate the latter 3 miles from Ripon. There is a very fine Cathedral at Ripon e saw through it n was very much pleased after which we had dined at one of the Hotels n a delightful walk to Studley Park through the fields there is a splendid Abbey in ruins is in the park not far from the Abbey there is a very old hill? 140 years old where the monks used to worship before the Abby was built the Annil? Is Hollow and has a singular appearance. Returned to Harrogate the same evening. Saturday 31st Went to York and went through the minster museum and gardens and castle. Dined after which proceeded by rail to Scarborough 40 miles from York. Sunday 1st July morning to Christ church testament to Less? 5 ch 28. Afternoon to St. Marys parish church Text? First Less 15 ch 5-58_59. Evening to Christ church again Test 15 ch 1 for 58-59 versus. Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday, walked to see the different parks of the town there is an old castle in ruins, I bathed 3 days it was rather cold but refreshing. Thursday, Saw a Gay? Wedding at the parish church, they were 8/9 carriages in the afternoon went to Lilly? 7/8 miles off, had tea there returned the same evening to Scarborough, Friday walked. Saturday left Scarborough to York, from there to Buxton by rail to north Hampton ----- to Rowsley - Ambernath by coach from Rowsley to Buxton 25 miles. Sunday morning to Buxton church, afternoon to Fairfield church. Monday walked onto Buxton in the gardens which are very prettily laid out. Tuesday to Chatsworth ---- ---- of the Duke of Devonshire it is 15 miles from Buxton we went in a car and spent a very pleasant day. Wednesday wet day, Thursday walk, Friday, Saturday. Sunday 15th heard a sermon preached at Buxton ---- Sir Francis Gray Text? 18 ch - Match 35 verse. Afternoon the same church sermon by Mr. Hull Text? 71 psalm 3 verse. Stayed the remainder of ------ ------ until Friday 20th went by coach to Manchester 25 miles arrived there had tea returned by rail? To Liverpool after a very pleasant journey expenses £13.11.3 Visit to north Wales Rhyl and Llandudno June 28th 1856 to Rhyl Stayed there a fortnight dining that time, bathed several times, rode in donkey carriage to Dyserth and Bodyddam and Bodelwyddan There is a led mine and castle in ruins at Dyserth at the Bodelwyddan a mansion, the residence of John Hay Williams Both the parks gardens are very extensive beautifully laid out, we went also to Abergele 4and1/2 from Rhyl On the 2nd Sunday that we were at Rhyl went in a Phoeton to St. Asaph Cathedral 8 miles of there is a splendid view of the vail of Clwyd from the top of the cathedral. We went to Llandudno in 1886 on the following Saturday 12th July to the 14th, Lost locket – found, I stayed until Thursday 17th July while there went up to the great Ormes head from the top of which there is a lovely view of the sea the Sunday we were there went to church in the morning in the evening went to the old one on the ---- Returned home on the Thursday for one day – Ferry Friday 18th July Jourey to the lakes by rail to Kendal dined there Rode in a Phoeton To Bowness 9 miles from Kendal Stayed there all night, the following morning, sailed around Windermere lake in 4 hours, Dined at Bowness rode to Grasmere in the afternoon 9 miles off. In the evening there was a very pretty light to see the bush burning? Which is a very old custom since the time of pope Gregory 4th the convents from Pergamum Built them selves houses of linches? n shrewed? Them on the floors n seats in the churches. We stayed at Grassmere. Monday whence we proceeded in the Phaeton at half past 9 oclock to Great Langdale dined there at an old fashioned house .ascended the mountain? To see the waterfall n afterwards drove to Coniston about 11 miles from Langdale stayed at the Watergate Hotel. After tea sailed on the lake which is very beautiful the scenery around? The following day drove to Ambleside 6 miles from Coniston dined there after which drove to Keswick 17 miles from Ambleside n stayed there until Friday. It is a very pretty place the scenery around the Lake is Beautiful .the first morning of our arrival we walked to Castle Head where we had a goo view of the Lake Druidical circle where we viewed the vale of St John ,Skiddaw, Helvellyn n saddleback. In the afternoon drove around the Lakes – 10 miles 3 half in length . in the Evening sailed on the lake trying to catch a fish for 2 half hours but did not succeed . July 24th Birthday drove to Buttermere Crummock 14 miles on the way n 9 miles the other to Keswick it rained all day until evening we had quite an adventure. We met so many different parties at the Inn which made it very pleasant. We returned to Keswick the same evening n had a very pleasant drive. Friday went to Patterdale Ullswater 19 or 20 miles off. Dined at Troutbeck reached Ullswater at 6 oclock stayed there all night in the morning sailed on the lake (which is a very large one next to Windermere 9 miles in length ) to Lyulphs tower incy? Covered little Castle built by the Duke of Norfolk. There is a park which surrounds it n also a waterfall called Aira Force Cumbria /Waterfalls/Aira_Force which is the finest I have seen. It is beautiful particularly when the sun shines on the water there are all the colours of the rainbow to be seen. We then drove to Ambleside 10 miles off n stayed a while at the Highest inhabited house in England on the way there to Ambleside we never arrived until the following afternoon being Sunday on the Saturday evening of our arrival there was the bush -earing again to be seen we went to the New Church where the Children placed the wreathes n crosses the had made of flowers in ashes? Sunday morning went to the Churches heard sermon preached? For the clergy text 10 ch st Luke 21 verse. In the afternoon drove to Kendal 9 miles off. Stayed there all night saw the Old Castle which is in ruins. Catharine Parr was from there the wife of king Henry the 8th. Returned to Liverpool on the 28th July after a very delightful journey expenses on another page Names of Hotels where we stayed Bowness – The Crown Grassmere- Red Lion Grasmere-Red-Lion-Hotel Coniston- Waterhead http://www.waterhead-hotel.co.uk/ Keswick- Derwentwater Derwentwater-hotel-keswick Patterdale- family Hotel Ambleside- White Lion White Lion Hotel Kendal- Kings Arms kings Arms

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Thought this may interest some of you Chris History of the villages of Dorset, Hampshire and Isle of Wight http://southernlife.org.uk ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Clippies take a trip back in time By David Newble - Tuesday, October 20, 2009 http://iwcp.co.uk/news/news/clippies-take-a-trip-back-in-time-29224.aspx IT was all aboard at Newport Quay on Sunday when former Southern Vectis 'clippies' recreated bus travel from 70 years ago. Three historic buses, all dating from the year the Second World War broke out, operated a service between Newport, Cowes and Gurnard, running to a 1939 timetable. The outbreak of war meant that lady 'clippies' were recruited to work on Southern Vectis buses to replace their male counterparts, who had joined the forces. Some worked for just the war years until the demobbed men returned home but many stayed on until retirement or until driver-only operation was introduced. The recruitment of women continued in the post-war years but women drivers only appeared in the late 1970s on the Isle of Wight. Six wartime conductresses had trained as drivers in 1945 but the war ended before they took their test. The clippies' reunion was staged by the Isle of Wight Bus Museum as part of its annual autumn running day. As well as the recreation of the service between Cowes and Newport using historic vehicles, there were more than 20 preserved vehicles on display which visited the Isle of Wight from the mainland, as well as the museum's own vehicles. Reporter: davidn@iwcpmail.co.uk This email was cleaned by emailStripper, available for free from http://www.papercut.biz/emailStripper.htm