Just hoping that someone might see this message and recogonise that this family as part of their descendants. Although I have a lovely lady in Washington who has been helping me, there is nothing like descendants to fill in the gaps. I have Dora Constance May Scovell born 1889 Whitwell/Godshill,who emigrated to live in the New York area. I now have her marriage certificate to a Clifford as they were married in Bedford, Westchester , New York.1916, but it appears from the 1920 census that her husband was a widow by then. Maybe there is someone who knows what happened to her or whether there were any children from that marriage? Her younger brother was Percical Henry John born 1904 Whitwell. Another was Frederick Frank born 1902. Their parents were Daniel Frank Scovell and Clara nee Morris Thank you and kind regards. April nee Morris New Forest.

Hi Angela Have a "Cool Yule" Regards Ann Spiro Perth, Western Australia research@sbse.net.au http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~blacksmiths/ I have the surname BASKETT registered with GOONS http://www.one-name.org/ Rootsweb surname list for NUTTY.

Just a short posting to wish you all A VERY MERRY CHRISTMAS and I hope that 2010 will bring you all that you could wish for including breaking down those brick walls!! Remember Genealogists do it in trees!! Have a great Yuletide Researching: CLAUS Santa!! Chris and Caroline Hayles History of the villages of Dorset, Hampshire and Isle of Wight http://southernlife.org.uk

I have put together a snapshot of the Vine Inn and its association with the WILLIAMS & SANDERS families, with help from Ann Ryder, as follows: According to "Ryde Pubs - an Illustrated History" the Vine Inn, Pier St was built around 1801 at the western end of Ryde foreshore - "its familiar twin roofs appear in several seafront engravings of that era". The first reference I have to a family connection is an 1828 directory which shows the innkeeper as E WILLIAMS (my 3xg grandfather). By the time of the IOW directory of 1838 and the census of 1841 his widow Mary WIILIAMS was the innkeeper of the Vine. Edward & Mary had 2 daughters that I know of (I think there are probably more siblings) - Sarah, born in 1810 who married Thomas SANDERS & my g.g. grandmother, Lavinia, who married E K MINTER (a Methodist and, I suspect, a teetotaller!!) Thomas SANDERS was the innkeeper at the Vine, Pier St in 1851 & 1861, he was also a builder and is credited with building the Victoria Arcade in Union St. An 1865 directory shows Thomas SANDERS at both the Vine, Pier St & the Globe, Castle St. The 1866 Burial Board petition lists Thomas SANDERS at Castle St and Henry SAUNDERS at Pier St. Thomas died in 1870. The 1871 census shows the innkeeper of the Vine, Pier St as Henry W Sanders. He is living there with his "wife", Catherine, & family - I have found no marriage for them. The IOW BMD death index shows that Henry Williams SANDERS died in 1880 at Ryde so I think it likely he was the eldest son of Thomas & Sarah. (Henry is shown as a post master at Pier St in 1861.) Catherine is also a SANDERS - her father was Cornelius SANDERS who was probably related to Thomas. The Vine in Pier St was demolished in 1871. Catherine SANDERS was the innkeeper of the Vine, Castle St in 1881 & 1891 and in 1895 the licence was transferred to the official receiver - I guess she'd had enough by then! She died in 1901. I hope this is of some general interest - if anyone has any details of this WILLIAMS family I would appreciate hearing from them. A Happy Christmas to everyone. Best regards ........ Ros.

Hi Everyone, I'm still here :-) Could Mary Lou please email me, I lost several email addresses when I moved across to the IoW. I have mammoth backlog of email's so if anyone is waiting for a reply I apologise :-) Life is still pretty hectic and at this rate I shall need to employ a secretary and purchase a desk ( I do miss my desk). I love being in Cowes and have met so many wonderful friendly people. It has been great being able to put faces to names - and it has been lovely to meet a few members of the IoW FHS. I am hoping to meet the famous Ann Barrett in January when I attend the Ryde Social Heritage Meeting, if any listers are attending the meeting do give me a wave. I have been all over the Island several times over by now, but still love Cowes more than any other place (even if it is like a ghost town this time of year). Yarmouth comes in second and the amazing Newtown - has any other lister been to Newtown and if yes, what did you think? It has been great to talk to a lot of the older locals , they are quite often a very valuable untapped source of information. Finally - it's not too late to subscribe to the IoW FHS for Xmas and I have to give my favourite cemetery Northwood a plug - become a Friend or purchase a gift subscription for another member of the family :-) Harass Jon Matthews if you feel like a subscription to each , we can't have him twidling his thumbs ! If you are still alive Mr Urry - email me :-) Merry Christmas Everyone Angela McMurtry (17th Dec had a light dusting of snow but nothing since)

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Hi Ann & Cecilia, Thanks for the licence info - it's a bit early for our family I think. I have just discovered an 1828 directory which gives the inn keeper of the Vine as E. Williams! So, I guess Edward must have died between 1828 &1841. I wonder if he had any other occupation? I'm not sure which newspaper report you're referring to - the only one I've seen is the 1871 one reporting the demolition? All the best ........... Ros. On 17/12/2009, at 9:04 PM, Ann Ryder wrote: > Hi Ros > > Did you see "Vine Alehouses Licences Between 1766 - 1819 " > > < http://www.iwight.com/library/record_office/alehouses/ > detailed.aspx?id=1515&n=VINE > > > Licence Ref No: NBC6/1/94 Licence Date: 1802 Victualler: William > Salter Sureties: James Reynolds ...TO.. > > Licence Ref No: NBC6/1/110 Licence Date: 1818 Victualler: William > Salter Sureties: William Tooley & William Allen > > I have a copy of a newspaper report, do you have it? > > Best wishes Ann > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ros Fletcher" > <rosfletcher@iprimus.com.au> > To: "Ann Ryder" <delann@southbourneway.freeserve.co.uk> > Cc: <Isle-of-Wight@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Thursday, December 17, 2009 8:44 AM > Subject: Re: [IoW] Lavinia WILLIAMS > > >> >> Thank you Cecilia & Ann, >> >> I appreciate your help. I think the "godfather" idea is probably >> the right one, >> >> It was also interesting to read about the Vine Inn in those 2 >> sources (luckily I do have the CD of the back copies of the >> journal.) It would seem that the old building was demolished >> before 1870 and Thomas Sa(u)nders transferred the name and >> licence to 16 Castle St. He couldn't have been there long as I >> have his probable death as 1871. Apparently he was also a >> builder and is credited with building the Victoria Arcade in >> Union St. >> >> Thank you, also, Roy - I have tried the IGI for Lavinia in the >> past with no success and have only recently become aware of the >> HUMBER connection. I was able to find the reference to the >> marriage of Edward WILLIAMS to Mary HUMBER but I could not find >> Sarah Humber WILLIAMS' baptism. I'm not sure where I could have >> gone wrong? >> >> Thank you again and a Merry Christmas to all, >> >> Best wishes ........... Ros. >> >> On 16/12/2009, at 12:46 AM, Ann Ryder wrote: >> >>> You will find info on the vine Inn on this link < http:// >>> www.insula.vecta.btinternet.co.uk/RP1.html> >>> >>> And in in back copy iof IOWFH journal Vol 30 pg 32 Vine >>> demolition , I dont have a copy >>> >>> Best wishes Ann >>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ros Fletcher" >>> <rosfletcher@iprimus.com.au> >>> To: "IOW Mailing List" <ISLE-OF-WIGHT@rootsweb.com> >>> Sent: Tuesday, December 15, 2009 12:20 PM >>> Subject: [IoW] Lavinia WILLIAMS >>> >>> >>>> >>>> I wonder if SKS would do a look up for me at the Record Office. I >>>> would like the baptism and parents for Lavinia WILLIAMS born about >>>> 1824 in Newport, I think, and her sister, Sarah (Humber?) WILLIAMS, >>>> born about 1809. There's no rush I know everyone's busy at this >>>> time >>>> of year. >>>> >>>> Lavinia married Edward Kennet MINTER in 1845 and Sarah had a >>>> daughter >>>> that year who she named, surprisingly, Rosina Minter SANDERS. I >>>> wonder why Sarah would want to give her daughter her brother-in- >>>> law's >>>> surname? >>>> >>>> Another item of interest relates to the cover of last month's >>>> journal. In 1841 Lavinia's mother, Mary WILLIAMS, was the innkeeper >>>> of the Vine Inn then in Pier St. By 1851 Sarah's husband, Thomas >>>> SANDERS, had taken over. The 1861 census shows Thomas still the >>>> innkeeper and the Vine Inn between Sivier's Hotel & the Royal >>>> Victoria Yacht Club so I think that means that the Riviera Hotel >>>> was >>>> originally the Vine Inn?! Can anyone confirm? >>>> >>>> Best wishes ............ Ros. >>>> >>>> ************************************** >>>> You can contact the Isle of Wight List Administrator by emailing: >>>> Isle-of-Wight-Admin@rootsweb.com >>>> >>>> ------------------------------- >>>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ISLE-OF- >>>> WIGHT-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without >>>> the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >>>> >>> >>> >> >> > >

Thank you Cecilia & Ann, I appreciate your help. I think the "godfather" idea is probably the right one, It was also interesting to read about the Vine Inn in those 2 sources (luckily I do have the CD of the back copies of the journal.) It would seem that the old building was demolished before 1870 and Thomas Sa(u)nders transferred the name and licence to 16 Castle St. He couldn't have been there long as I have his probable death as 1871. Apparently he was also a builder and is credited with building the Victoria Arcade in Union St. Thank you, also, Roy - I have tried the IGI for Lavinia in the past with no success and have only recently become aware of the HUMBER connection. I was able to find the reference to the marriage of Edward WILLIAMS to Mary HUMBER but I could not find Sarah Humber WILLIAMS' baptism. I'm not sure where I could have gone wrong? Thank you again and a Merry Christmas to all, Best wishes ........... Ros. On 16/12/2009, at 12:46 AM, Ann Ryder wrote: > You will find info on the vine Inn on this link < http:// > www.insula.vecta.btinternet.co.uk/RP1.html> > > And in in back copy iof IOWFH journal Vol 30 pg 32 Vine > demolition , I dont have a copy > > Best wishes Ann > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ros Fletcher" > <rosfletcher@iprimus.com.au> > To: "IOW Mailing List" <ISLE-OF-WIGHT@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Tuesday, December 15, 2009 12:20 PM > Subject: [IoW] Lavinia WILLIAMS > > >> >> I wonder if SKS would do a look up for me at the Record Office. I >> would like the baptism and parents for Lavinia WILLIAMS born about >> 1824 in Newport, I think, and her sister, Sarah (Humber?) WILLIAMS, >> born about 1809. There's no rush I know everyone's busy at this time >> of year. >> >> Lavinia married Edward Kennet MINTER in 1845 and Sarah had a daughter >> that year who she named, surprisingly, Rosina Minter SANDERS. I >> wonder why Sarah would want to give her daughter her brother-in-law's >> surname? >> >> Another item of interest relates to the cover of last month's >> journal. In 1841 Lavinia's mother, Mary WILLIAMS, was the innkeeper >> of the Vine Inn then in Pier St. By 1851 Sarah's husband, Thomas >> SANDERS, had taken over. The 1861 census shows Thomas still the >> innkeeper and the Vine Inn between Sivier's Hotel & the Royal >> Victoria Yacht Club so I think that means that the Riviera Hotel was >> originally the Vine Inn?! Can anyone confirm? >> >> Best wishes ............ Ros. >> >> ************************************** >> You can contact the Isle of Wight List Administrator by emailing: >> Isle-of-Wight-Admin@rootsweb.com >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ISLE-OF- >> WIGHT-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > >

Hi Ros Did you see "Vine Alehouses Licences Between 1766 - 1819 " < http://www.iwight.com/library/record_office/alehouses/detailed.aspx?id=1515&n=VINE > Licence Ref No: NBC6/1/94 Licence Date: 1802 Victualler: William Salter Sureties: James Reynolds ...TO.. Licence Ref No: NBC6/1/110 Licence Date: 1818 Victualler: William Salter Sureties: William Tooley & William Allen I have a copy of a newspaper report, do you have it? Best wishes Ann ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ros Fletcher" <rosfletcher@iprimus.com.au> To: "Ann Ryder" <delann@southbourneway.freeserve.co.uk> Cc: <Isle-of-Wight@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, December 17, 2009 8:44 AM Subject: Re: [IoW] Lavinia WILLIAMS > > Thank you Cecilia & Ann, > > I appreciate your help. I think the "godfather" idea is probably the > right one, > > It was also interesting to read about the Vine Inn in those 2 sources > (luckily I do have the CD of the back copies of the journal.) It would > seem that the old building was demolished before 1870 and Thomas > Sa(u)nders transferred the name and licence to 16 Castle St. He couldn't > have been there long as I have his probable death as 1871. Apparently he > was also a builder and is credited with building the Victoria Arcade in > Union St. > > Thank you, also, Roy - I have tried the IGI for Lavinia in the past with > no success and have only recently become aware of the HUMBER connection. > I was able to find the reference to the marriage of Edward WILLIAMS to > Mary HUMBER but I could not find Sarah Humber WILLIAMS' baptism. I'm not > sure where I could have gone wrong? > > Thank you again and a Merry Christmas to all, > > Best wishes ........... Ros. > > On 16/12/2009, at 12:46 AM, Ann Ryder wrote: > >> You will find info on the vine Inn on this link < http:// >> www.insula.vecta.btinternet.co.uk/RP1.html> >> >> And in in back copy iof IOWFH journal Vol 30 pg 32 Vine demolition , I >> dont have a copy >> >> Best wishes Ann >> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ros Fletcher" >> <rosfletcher@iprimus.com.au> >> To: "IOW Mailing List" <ISLE-OF-WIGHT@rootsweb.com> >> Sent: Tuesday, December 15, 2009 12:20 PM >> Subject: [IoW] Lavinia WILLIAMS >> >> >>> >>> I wonder if SKS would do a look up for me at the Record Office. I >>> would like the baptism and parents for Lavinia WILLIAMS born about >>> 1824 in Newport, I think, and her sister, Sarah (Humber?) WILLIAMS, >>> born about 1809. There's no rush I know everyone's busy at this time >>> of year. >>> >>> Lavinia married Edward Kennet MINTER in 1845 and Sarah had a daughter >>> that year who she named, surprisingly, Rosina Minter SANDERS. I >>> wonder why Sarah would want to give her daughter her brother-in-law's >>> surname? >>> >>> Another item of interest relates to the cover of last month's >>> journal. In 1841 Lavinia's mother, Mary WILLIAMS, was the innkeeper >>> of the Vine Inn then in Pier St. By 1851 Sarah's husband, Thomas >>> SANDERS, had taken over. The 1861 census shows Thomas still the >>> innkeeper and the Vine Inn between Sivier's Hotel & the Royal >>> Victoria Yacht Club so I think that means that the Riviera Hotel was >>> originally the Vine Inn?! Can anyone confirm? >>> >>> Best wishes ............ Ros. >>> >>> ************************************** >>> You can contact the Isle of Wight List Administrator by emailing: >>> Isle-of-Wight-Admin@rootsweb.com >>> >>> ------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ISLE-OF- >>> WIGHT-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >>> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >>> >> >> > > >

I wonder if SKS would do a look up for me at the Record Office. I would like the baptism and parents for Lavinia WILLIAMS born about 1824 in Newport, I think, and her sister, Sarah (Humber?) WILLIAMS, born about 1809. There's no rush I know everyone's busy at this time of year. Lavinia married Edward Kennet MINTER in 1845 and Sarah had a daughter that year who she named, surprisingly, Rosina Minter SANDERS. I wonder why Sarah would want to give her daughter her brother-in-law's surname? Another item of interest relates to the cover of last month's journal. In 1841 Lavinia's mother, Mary WILLIAMS, was the innkeeper of the Vine Inn then in Pier St. By 1851 Sarah's husband, Thomas SANDERS, had taken over. The 1861 census shows Thomas still the innkeeper and the Vine Inn between Sivier's Hotel & the Royal Victoria Yacht Club so I think that means that the Riviera Hotel was originally the Vine Inn?! Can anyone confirm? Best wishes ............ Ros.

You will find info on the vine Inn on this link < http://www.insula.vecta.btinternet.co.uk/RP1.html> And in in back copy iof IOWFH journal Vol 30 pg 32 Vine demolition , I dont have a copy Best wishes Ann ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ros Fletcher" <rosfletcher@iprimus.com.au> To: "IOW Mailing List" <ISLE-OF-WIGHT@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, December 15, 2009 12:20 PM Subject: [IoW] Lavinia WILLIAMS > > I wonder if SKS would do a look up for me at the Record Office. I > would like the baptism and parents for Lavinia WILLIAMS born about > 1824 in Newport, I think, and her sister, Sarah (Humber?) WILLIAMS, > born about 1809. There's no rush I know everyone's busy at this time > of year. > > Lavinia married Edward Kennet MINTER in 1845 and Sarah had a daughter > that year who she named, surprisingly, Rosina Minter SANDERS. I > wonder why Sarah would want to give her daughter her brother-in-law's > surname? > > Another item of interest relates to the cover of last month's > journal. In 1841 Lavinia's mother, Mary WILLIAMS, was the innkeeper > of the Vine Inn then in Pier St. By 1851 Sarah's husband, Thomas > SANDERS, had taken over. The 1861 census shows Thomas still the > innkeeper and the Vine Inn between Sivier's Hotel & the Royal > Victoria Yacht Club so I think that means that the Riviera Hotel was > originally the Vine Inn?! Can anyone confirm? > > Best wishes ............ Ros. > > ************************************** > You can contact the Isle of Wight List Administrator by emailing: > Isle-of-Wight-Admin@rootsweb.com > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ISLE-OF-WIGHT-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >

On 15 Dec 2009 at 23:20, Ros Fletcher wrote: > I wonder if SKS would do a look up for me at the Record Office. I > would like the baptism and parents for Lavinia WILLIAMS born about > 1824 in Newport, I think, and her sister, Sarah (Humber?) WILLIAMS, > born about 1809. There's no rush I know everyone's busy at this time > of year. > Have you not looked at the IGI at FamilySearch? There is nothing shown for Lavinia but there is a baptism of Sarah Humber Williams at Newport on 8 June 1810 (batch no. I039421). No source given but it's one of those relatively new "funny" I batch numbers. The IGI also has the marriage of EDWARD WILLIAMS and MARY HUMBER at Alverstoke (near Gosport on the mainland of Hampshire) on 10 July 1805. Given Sarah's middle name, this seems likely to have been her parents' marriage. The batch no. is M073576, source the Alverstoke parish registers. Gosport is, of course, a major naval base. I wonder if Edward was in the navy? -- Roy Stockdill Professional genealogical researcher, writer & lecturer Newbies' Guide to Genealogy & Family History: www.genuki.org.uk/gs/Newbie.html "There is only one thing in the world worse than being talked about, and that is not being talked about." OSCAR WILDE

Hello to all, Does anyone know what was the local custom for land inheritance on the I.W. before the Statute of Wills in 1540. I believe that before that date, real estate (land and buildings) could not be devised or willed. Before death, as long as it was not entailed, it could be sold or given; but on death it had to be distributed according to local custom. In many counties, this was by primogeniture (all to the eldest son); in Kent it was by ultimogeniture or Borough English (all to the youngest son); in some places it was by gavelkind (distributed equally between sons); if there were no sons, it was distributed equally between daughters. But what was the custom (before 1540) on the Isle of Wight? Many of our ancestors would not have written wills and, if they did, not mentioned real estate, because it would automatically have been distributed according to local custom. Individual cases might be found in manorial records. But the actual local custom was local law and I don't know where that was recorded. Does anyone know what was the local custom? I know that everyone is busy at this time of year; but I hope one of you experts can tackle the problem when you have time. Wishing you all a joyous Christmas Season and a most successful 2010. George Legge (Melbourne, Australia, where tomorrow's forecast is 39 degrees C. (102.2 degrees F.) and a north wind (which won't bring snow).

----- Original Message ----- From: "Ros Fletcher" <rosfletcher@iprimus.com.au> To: "IOW Mailing List" <ISLE-OF-WIGHT@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, December 15, 2009 12:20 PM Subject: [IoW] Lavinia WILLIAMS >[...] I wonder why Sarah would want to > give her daughter her brother-in-law's > surname? > > [...] mother [...] was the innkeeper > of the Vine Inn then in Pier St. By 1851 > Sarah's husband, Thomas > SANDERS, had taken over. [...] In my line, a brother-in-law's name was given to two (out of a pack of) children. I've assumed that it is probably (a) because it is now the sister's name or (b) a godparently relationship occurred.

Hello listers >From the site named "Friends of Dundee City Archives, Wesleyan Register" my cousin found the following: Children of George and Grace COOMBES. (George was possibly the son of George COOMBES and Maria nee MILLMORE of the Isle of Wight) 1. Maria Millmore COOMBES born 30-4-1876, baptised 30-4-1876 address 28 Logie Street, Dundee 2. George born COOMBES 10-5-1878, baptised 7-7-1878 address Lochie Dundee 3. Maria Matheson COOMBES born 25-7-1880, baptised 3-8-1880 address 78 Bell Street, Dundee 4. James Winters COOMBES born 10-12-1882, baptised 10-2-1882 5. Robert COOMBES born 29-11-1886, baptised 31-12-1886 6. Grace COOMBES born 14-10-1887, baptised 13-11-1887 address 29 Hilltown Dundee 7. Ernest Clark COOMBES born 12-11-1894, baptised 3-2-2895 address 29 Hilltown Dundee If there are any descendants of these people searching on the Isle of Wight Rootsweb, I hope that they will contact me. Best wishes Shirley

Hello, This is my first post to this list, and I,m wondering if SKS could do a look up for me at the records office. The birth date for Robert Aplegarth Windsor born around 1783, according to the 1861 census he gives his birth place as Newport, IOW. Many thanks, Charles Windsor

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Thanks to Joy Langdon for help with finding the marriage details. Also thanks to Vanessa for three messages re my mystery lady, Urenia. She has lost some of her mystery with her assistance! Now I am intrigued by the witnesses named. Her father William as a tailor is certainly as we have discovered before. I hope there are some descendants able to add to the story. Thanks again. Best wishes Shirley Date 14 December 2009 03:54 subject Re: [IoW] Urenia JENKINS London Marriages (from the LMA via Ancestry) Name: Urenia Jenkins Age: 30 Estimated birth year: abt 1849 Spouse Name: William Nicholson Spouse Age: 44 Record Type: Marriage Event Date: 27 Nov 1879 Parish: Saint George, Bloomsbury County: Middlesex Borough: Camden Father Name: William Jenkins Spouse Father Name: William Nicholson Regards Vanessa date14 December 2009 04:06 subject Re: [IoW] Urenia JENKINS Hello Shirley, I have looked at the original record of the marriage between Urenia and William. Urenia is 30, a spinster with no occupation listed, she is residing at 69 Great Russell Street and her father's occupation is given as Tailor. She signed her own name - URENIA JENKINS William is 44, a widower residing Ventnor, Isle of Wight with Photographer as his occupation. His father's occupation is given as Brewer and William also signed his own name. They were married by licence and the witnesses were Robert POOTLE? and Eliza FYNN. Regards Vanessa

Dear Shirley, I'm not a family member or researching this family, but FreeBMD has the following listed: Marriages Dec 1879 -------------------------------------------------------------------------- JENKINS Urenia St. Giles 1b 887 NICHOLSON William St Giles 1b 887 So I think this is definitely is her family. Best Regards Vanessa Dorset ----- Original Message ----- From: "shirley mundy" <shirleymundy44@gmail.com> To: <isle-of-wight@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, December 12, 2009 11:09 PM Subject: [IoW] Urenia JENKINS > Hello listers > Is this the family of Urenia JENKINS? She was the daughter of William > JENKINS and Ann JENKINS. > Ann JENKINS was later CAVE, formerly KINGSWELL, nee COOPER. > > > In 1881 Census for Ventnor, living at 20 Mill Street, Ventnor: > > > > William NICHOLSON age 45 years born Bolton, Westmoreland (Occupation > Photographer) > > Eurenia NICHOLSON age 31 years born Godshill, IOW > > Leslie C. NICHOLSON age 10 months born Ventnor, IOW > > > > In 1891 Census for part Shanklin/part Newchurch > > > > William NICHOLSON age 44 years born Bilton (Bolton?), Westmoreland (Age > difference in comparison to 1881) > > Eurinia NICHOLSON age 41 years born Godshill, IOW > > Leslie C. NICHOLSON age 10 years born Ventnor, IOW (Leslie C born > per > FHS circa 1880 GDS) > > Mabel B. NICHOLSON age 9 years born Ventnor, IOW (Mabel Beatrice born per > FHS circa 1881 GDS, died per FHS circa 1925 BRA age 44 Years) > > Walter M. NICHOLSON age 8 years born Ventnor, IOW (Walter Melville born > per > FHS circa 1882 GDS) > > Kate I. NICHOLSON age 7 years born Ventnor, IOW (Kate Isabel born per FHS > circa 1884 GDS) > > Arthur R. NICHOLSON age 5 years born ?, ? (Arthur Romney born per FHS > circa > 1886 GDS) > > > > 1901 UK Census > > > > Leslie C. NICHOLSON age 20 years at St Marys, Hampshire > > Walter B. NICHOLSON 18 years at Parkstone, ? > > No others found > > > > Are any family members able to confirm the above research? > > > > Best wishes > > Shirley

Hello listers Is this the family of Urenia JENKINS? She was the daughter of William JENKINS and Ann JENKINS. Ann JENKINS was later CAVE, formerly KINGSWELL, nee COOPER. In 1881 Census for Ventnor, living at 20 Mill Street, Ventnor: William NICHOLSON age 45 years born Bolton, Westmoreland (Occupation Photographer) Eurenia NICHOLSON age 31 years born Godshill, IOW Leslie C. NICHOLSON age 10 months born Ventnor, IOW In 1891 Census for part Shanklin/part Newchurch William NICHOLSON age 44 years born Bilton (Bolton?), Westmoreland (Age difference in comparison to 1881) Eurinia NICHOLSON age 41 years born Godshill, IOW Leslie C. NICHOLSON age 10 years born Ventnor, IOW (Leslie C born per FHS circa 1880 GDS) Mabel B. NICHOLSON age 9 years born Ventnor, IOW (Mabel Beatrice born per FHS circa 1881 GDS, died per FHS circa 1925 BRA age 44 Years) Walter M. NICHOLSON age 8 years born Ventnor, IOW (Walter Melville born per FHS circa 1882 GDS) Kate I. NICHOLSON age 7 years born Ventnor, IOW (Kate Isabel born per FHS circa 1884 GDS) Arthur R. NICHOLSON age 5 years born ?, ? (Arthur Romney born per FHS circa 1886 GDS) 1901 UK Census Leslie C. NICHOLSON age 20 years at St Marys, Hampshire Walter B. NICHOLSON 18 years at Parkstone, ? No others found Are any family members able to confirm the above research? Best wishes Shirley