On 22 Feb 2010 at 11:21, SBS Engineers Genealogy wrote: > Good morning list > > For new researchers finding their way:- I have to agree with Roy's > warning to be careful about those <<snip>>"shop genealogy" outfits who > try and sell you a so-called "family coat of arms" and the alleged > history of your surname<<unsnip>>. I walked into one many, many years > ago in a shopping centre just to see what they had. The information > they had for me was nowhere near the mark. One should stick to the > FHS centres/libraries etc. where the people (fair dinkum volunteers :) > ) are interested only in helping us find the correct information. > Thank you for that. I found one very large website - no names, no pack drill but it's based in Canada - that purported to have my Stockdill coat of arms. I checked with the College of Arms and, though there are several arms for StockDALE, the much more common version of my name, there has never been one for anyone called Stockdill (and I wouldn't qualify by claiming my name is a variant of the main root surname). I also found they had linked my name with others beginning with "Stock" etc, and claimed it was the same name as Stokesley. I pointed out to them via e-mail that while the first element of the names was the same, i.e. "stoc" deriving from the Old Norse for a tree stump, the second elements "lea" and "dale" (or dael) are clearly quite different, lea meaning a clearing or meadow and dale meaning a valley. To be fair, they changed their surname meaning after several exchanges and accepted my word. For the benefit of newcomers here who may be tempted to fall for the whiles of these people and think they are buying their "family coat of arms", perhaps I could spell out the pitfalls? There is NO such thing as a family coat of arms, nor is there a coat of arms for a particular surname. With a few exceptions, a coat of arms is issued only to an individual and his heirs in the direct male line and they have to make what are called "differences". Sometimes females can also use it. This is a very brief, potted explanation and I do not claim to be an expert on heraldry, so no doubt someone who is an expert will be able to expand on this. However, just because there is in existence a genuine coat of arms for someone of your surname it doesn't mean you are allowed to use it! Indeed, if you used it illegally for the purposes of what is known to the law as "obtaining a pecuniary advantage", i.e. getting a loan or mortgage, you could be committing a criminal offence. So let's be careful out there ! -- Roy Stockdill Genealogical researcher, writer & lecturer Newbies' Guide to Genealogy & Family History: www.genuki.org.uk/gs/Newbie.html "There is only one thing in the world worse than being talked about, and that is not being talked about." OSCAR WILDE

Good morning list For new researchers finding their way:- I have to agree with Roy's warning to be careful about those <<snip>>"shop genealogy" outfits who try and sell you a so-called "family coat of arms" and the alleged history of your surname<<unsnip>>. I walked into one many, many years ago in a shopping centre just to see what they had. The information they had for me was nowhere near the mark. One should stick to the FHS centres/libraries etc. where the people (fair dinkum volunteers :) ) are interested only in helping us find the correct information. Kind regards Ann Spiro Perth, Western Australia research@sbse.net.au http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~blacksmiths/ Surname BASKETT is registered with GOONS http://www.one-name.org/ Rootsweb surname list for NUTTY.

Do we have to bring this up again Had enough of it last time. And the other complaint about the list not being what it used to be, one of the reasons is that at this time of year a lot of lists go quiet but the humour and information is still trickling through Elmo may not make his prescense know but he is still there on the sidelines. I used to run hampshire Life for nearly five years and used to let the list run itself and only step in if need be. Stop knocking it, what more can a list master do? Put pretty lights on the emails or occassionally do a little dance to entertain you! This is a great list and the members are extremely helpful and still retain a bit of humour Chris History of the villages of Dorset, Hampshire and Isle of Wight http://southernlife.org.uk ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ From: Roy Stockdill <roy.stockdill@btinternet.com> To: ISLE-OF-WIGHT- <Isle-of-Wight-L@rootsweb.com>; LiverpoolLady <lesley.culshaw@blueyonder.co.uk> Sent: Saturday, 20 February, 2010 10:36:34 Subject: Re: [IoW] Surname On 20 Feb 2010 at 9:04, LiverpoolLady wrote: > Bear with me : ) can anyone give me the site to the map that is shaded > to show the surname and the coverage of where the name originated. > Sorry not very good at explainin,clear as mud : ) > > Lesley Ü > Well, I'm glad you said it and not me! I agree that your articulation of facts and questions could bear some improvement. However, I think I know what you mean. There are at least two major reputable sources for surname research and their origins. However, before I continue, here's a HEALTH WARNING! Do NOT pay any attention whatsoever to those commercial outfits that infest shopping malls and the Internet and purport to flog you your "family coal of arms" and a nicely framed scroll allegedly with the history of your surname. These people are charlatans and I call them "bucket shop genealogists". If all you want is something pretty to hang on the living room wall, then OK, but don't take them seriously! For one thing, there is no such thing as a family coat of arms or coat of arms for a surname, moreover I have looked at some of their surname definitions and they are frequently wrong, sometimes hilariously so! Now, I think the website you want is called "spatial literacy" and it can be found at..... http://www.spatial-literacy.org/?page_id=40 It was taken over not long ago by the National Trust. There is also a brilliant CD-ROM called "Surname Atlas" which is produced by a friend of mine, Stephen Archer. This takes all the unique names (surnames AND forenames) from the 1881 census of Britain and produces instant coloured distribution maps of any surname and where it is most strongly resident in the UK. You can have hours of fun with this CD and at 12 quid it's one of the best bargains in genealogy (and, no, I am NOT getting a cut!). Look with Google for Archer Software and you'll find it. -- Roy Stockdill Genealogical researcher, writer & lecturer Newbies' Guide to Genealogy & Family History: www.genuki.org.uk/gs/Newbie.html "There is only one thing in the world worse than being talked about, and that is not being talked about." OSCAR WILDE ************************************** You can contact the Isle of Wight List Administrator by emailing: Isle-of-Wight-Admin@rootsweb.com ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ISLE-OF-WIGHT-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ************************************** You can contact the Isle of Wight List Administrator by emailing: Isle-of-Wight-Admin@rootsweb.com ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ISLE-OF-WIGHT-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hello Angela (I am reading) It was good to meet you at the RO, perhaps we will meet again.   The business of the card index has been an ongoing problem for many years and each time I use it I am always earning my "Brownie Points" by sorting out a few for them. I should like to add my request to Angela's, for people who use the RO to keep the cards in order and put them back in the place you removed them from.   Ann in Ryde --- On Sun, 21/2/10, Angela McMurtry <angelamciow@talktalk.net> wrote: From: Angela McMurtry <angelamciow@talktalk.net> Subject: [IoW] RO NEWPORT To: isle-of-wight@rootsweb.com Date: Sunday, 21 February, 2010, 17:42 Hi Everyone, As you know I did a few look-ups at the RO last week. I got to meet Ann Barrett for the first time quite by chance so that was a nice little bonus (hello Ann , if you are reading this). I'd like to thank all those people behind the scenes who do a marvellous job week in and week out trawling indexes and other resources. On the subject of the RO, I was rather dismayed to discover that a lot of the index cards are out of numerical sequence, so I'd like to suggest that if you plan a trip to the RO and you can't find a bap - check the burials, if you can't find a marriage - check the births. It is becoming a common problem for whatever reason.. and it serves as a timely reminder to put cards back in order ! I was horrified to discover that my entire MUNDY family has disappeared altogether ! Someone has made off with the cards. Luckily the RO has a copy on microfilm but it still means someone having to write them out again. Thankfully it was not a large family , I am now looking for the culprit :-( Angela in Cowes

Hi Everyone, As you know I did a few look-ups at the RO last week. I got to meet Ann Barrett for the first time quite by chance so that was a nice little bonus (hello Ann , if you are reading this). I'd like to thank all those people behind the scenes who do a marvellous job week in and week out trawling indexes and other resources. On the subject of the RO, I was rather dismayed to discover that a lot of the index cards are out of numerical sequence, so I'd like to suggest that if you plan a trip to the RO and you can't find a bap - check the burials, if you can't find a marriage - check the births. It is becoming a common problem for whatever reason.. and it serves as a timely reminder to put cards back in order ! I was horrified to discover that my entire MUNDY family has disappeared altogether ! Someone has made off with the cards. Luckily the RO has a copy on microfilm but it still means someone having to write them out again. Thankfully it was not a large family , I am now looking for the culprit :-( Angela in Cowes

Last week I met a couple who were researching the THOMAS family on the Island. If you have connections to the THOMAS family please contact me and I will pass on their email address. Angela

On Feb 21, 2010, at 12:35 PM, Angela McMurtry wrote: > Last week I met a couple who were researching the THOMAS family on the > Island. If you have connections to the THOMAS family please contact me and I > will pass on their email address. > Angela Angela, I have Thomas antecedents on the Island. That most recent in my family is John Thomas (born c. 1812; dued c, 1895). The British Census of 1881 lists him as having been born at Apse Heath, Newchurch and from some source, I have that he died at Godshill. The census also describes him as a common carter/carrier. That census also lists his and his families address in 1881 as Poplar Cottage, Church Street, Ventnor. Somewhere, but I'm not sure where, I turned up his father as being a William Thomas (1773-1852) but no other information, other than that he was also a carter. The census and church records (on-line courtesy of the IOWFHS) also provided me with John Thomas' 11 children, one of whom, Ellen Phillips (named after her mother) Thomas was one of my great grandmother. That's all I've been able to dig up on the web. Given the commonness of John and William as given names and Thomas as a surname, and the suspicion that many Thomases can be found on the Isle of Wight, I've all but given up hope of turning up anything further, short of a trip to the IOW devoted to just chasing Thomases. Maybe, you know something I don't know. Cheers, Kelvin Kean Elverson PA (now seeing the sun 10 to 14 days after being buried in four feet of snow)

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On 21 Feb 2010 at 12:58, SALLY-ANN GARRETT wrote: > Hi Lesley et Al > > I think we need to ignore the rudeness in Roy's email - he may be a > professional, but he seems to be sadly lacking in emotional > intelligence. His advice is possibly helpful if you can get past the > opening remarks. > > In addition, I have looked up several sites in the past that can > provide the distribution of a surname, for example: > > http://www.rootsmap.com/ > > http://www.ukgenealogy.co.uk/resources/surname-maps.htm > > http://www.rootsuk.com/help/bmd_map.php > > http://www.britishsurnames.co.uk/help.php > When a questioner confesses herself that she hadn't explained her question very well, I tend to think she is inviting a jokey riposte, which is all that my comment was meant to be. Still, some people seem determined to find offence wherever they can, being somewhat thin-skinned and hypersensitive. However, that said, I do believe that too much concern is expressed about surname meanings and their distribution. Let's all remember that so many surnames have changed, sometimes almost beyond recognition, since they came into existence in medieval times. Also, most names have a number of variants - some of them numbered in scores - and it is often hard to know what the original name was. For instance, one of my own ancestral families called variously YELLOW, YELLOWLEY or YALLOW/YALLOWLEY appear in no fewer than 15 variants in the registers of just a couple of Yorkshire parishes. Widespread illiteracy before the 20th century meant that people rarely had to give or write their names and many hadn't the remotest idea how their surname was spelt, so left it to the vicar, parish clerk or registrar. Consequently, a change of official could lead to different variants appearing. I have even seen a surname spelt more than one way in the SAME document! There are other reasons why a name got changed, sometimes stemming from a desire to hide from the law and the authorities or to inherit a title or property, a surname change being part of a condition of a will. I tend to take even the reputable surname dictionaries with a pinch of salt sometimes. Some of their definitions are, at best, guesses based on the etymology of a name and NOT on original research in records. As a classic example, Reaney & Wilson in A Dictionary of English Surnames claim that the common northern surname SHACKLETON derives from a place in North Yorkshire called Scackleton. I am quite certain this is nonsense, since surname distribution maps and parish records show it to be overwhelmingly a name of the West Riding - there are very few Shackletons in North Yorkshire - and it derives from a hamlet or single farmstead at a place called Shackletonstall in the Calder Valley, near Hebden Bridge. I am a devotee of the theories of Dr George Redmonds, possibly the world's leading surname expert and certainly on Yorkshire surnames. I advise everyone to read at least one of his books if you are really interested in the history of surnames. Redmonds believes that each and EVERY surname of an individual is unique in itself, i.e. one Smith had a different origin to every other Smith, putting the theory at its simplest. He also believes you can only truly trace the true origins if you can trace an individual right back in the records to the original holder - and very few of us can do that! Thus, I find all talk about surnames and their origins to be, at best, speculative and a matter of interpretation. Surname maps certainly can give a clue to the origins of a name - especially those locative names derived from places - but we shouldn't get too carried away by them. -- Roy Stockdill Genealogical researcher, writer & lecturer Newbies' Guide to Genealogy & Family History: www.genuki.org.uk/gs/Newbie.html "There is only one thing in the world worse than being talked about, and that is not being talked about." OSCAR WILDE

Dear all Has anyone had any contact with our list administrator within the last year? I have tried contacting him several times and had no reply. Unless someone tells me otherwise, I intend to contact the Rootsweb admin and ask if one of us can 'adopt' the list in the previous administrator's absence. It is really sad to see the list suffering from a lack of care - this used to be a thriving and friendly resource. Best wishes Kate seeking my RANNcestors

Thanks Sally-Ann : ) I could not get passed the remarks and as nothing was done about it the other times This is a complaint! I am sending to the list. Roy Stockdill you are a very arrogant, bullying individual indeed. Go get a Life. Lesley Lesley Ü From: SALLY-ANN Hi Lesley et Al I think we need to ignore the rudeness in Roy's email - he may be a professional, but he seems to be sadly lacking in emotional intelligence. His advice is possibly helpful if you can get past the opening remarks. In addition, I have looked up several sites in the past that can provide the distribution of a surname, for example: http://www.rootsmap.com/ http://www.ukgenealogy.co.uk/resources/surname-maps.htm http://www.rootsuk.com/help/bmd_map.php http://www.britishsurnames.co.uk/help.php I hope this is helpful Sally-Ann _____ From: Roy Stockdill <roy.stockdill@btinternet.com> To: ISLE-OF-WIGHT- <Isle-of-Wight-L@rootsweb.com>; LiverpoolLady <lesley.culshaw@blueyonder.co.uk> Sent: Saturday, 20 February, 2010 10:36:34 Subject: Re: [IoW] Surname On 20 Feb 2010 at 9:04, LiverpoolLady wrote: > Bear with me : ) can anyone give me the site to the map that is shaded > to show the surname and the coverage of where the name originated. > Sorry not very good at explainin,clear as mud : ) > > Lesley Ü > Well, I'm glad you said it and not me! I agree that your articulation of facts and questions could bear some improvement. However, I think I know what you mean. There are at least two major reputable sources for surname research and their origins. However, before I continue, here's a HEALTH WARNING! Do NOT pay any attention whatsoever to those commercial outfits that infest shopping malls and the Internet and purport to flog you your "family coal of arms" and a nicely framed scroll allegedly with the history of your surname. These people are charlatans and I call them "bucket shop genealogists". If all you want is something pretty to hang on the living room wall, then OK, but don't take them seriously! For one thing, there is no such thing as a family coat of arms or coat of arms for a surname, moreover I have looked at some of their surname definitions and they are frequently wrong, sometimes hilariously so! Now, I think the website you want is called "spatial literacy" and it can be found at..... http://www.spatial-literacy.org/?page_id=40 It was taken over not long ago by the National Trust. There is also a brilliant CD-ROM called "Surname Atlas" which is produced by a friend of mine, Stephen Archer. This takes all the unique names (surnames AND forenames) from the 1881 census of Britain and produces instant coloured distribution maps of any surname and where it is most strongly resident in the UK. You can have hours of fun with this CD and at 12 quid it's one of the best bargains in genealogy (and, no, I am NOT getting a cut!). Look with Google for Archer Software and you'll find it. -- Roy Stockdill Genealogical researcher, writer & lecturer Newbies' Guide to Genealogy & Family History: www.genuki.org.uk/gs/Newbie.html "There is only one thing in the world worse than being talked about, and that is not being talked about." OSCAR WILDE ************************************** You can contact the Isle of Wight List Administrator by emailing: Isle-of-Wight-Admin@rootsweb.com ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ISLE-OF-WIGHT-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 9.0.733 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/2700 - Release Date: 02/20/10 19:34:00

This is a complaint! and as nothing was done about it the other times I am sending to the list. Roy Stockdill you are a very arrogant, bullying individual indeed. Lesley On 20 Feb 2010 at 9:04, LiverpoolLady wrote: > Bear with me : ) can anyone give me the site to the map that is shaded > to show the surname and the coverage of where the name originated. > Sorry not very good at explainin,clear as mud : )Lesley Ü > -----Original Message----- From: Roy Stockdill roy.stockdill@btinternet.com Sent: 20 February 2010 10:37 To: ISLE-OF-WIGHT-; LiverpoolLady Subject: Re: [IoW] Surname Well, I'm glad you said it and not me! I agree that your articulation of facts and questions could bear some improvement.

How very civilized. Thank you for bringing a degree of normality to an otherwise controversial day in the life of the list. :) -----Original Message----- From: isle-of-wight-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:isle-of-wight-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Angela McMurtry Sent: Sunday, February 21, 2010 12:35 PM To: isle-of-wight@rootsweb.com Subject: [IoW] THOMAS FAMILY Last week I met a couple who were researching the THOMAS family on the Island. If you have connections to the THOMAS family please contact me and I will pass on their email address. Angela ************************************** You can contact the Isle of Wight List Administrator by emailing: Isle-of-Wight-Admin@rootsweb.com ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ISLE-OF-WIGHT-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Lesley et Al I think we need to ignore the rudeness in Roy's email - he may be a professional, but he seems to be sadly lacking in emotional intelligence. His advice is possibly helpful if you can get past the opening remarks. In addition, I have looked up several sites in the past that can provide the distribution of a surname, for example: http://www.rootsmap.com/ http://www.ukgenealogy.co.uk/resources/surname-maps.htm http://www.rootsuk.com/help/bmd_map.php http://www.britishsurnames.co.uk/help.php I hope this is helpful Sally-Ann ________________________________ From: Roy Stockdill <roy.stockdill@btinternet.com> To: ISLE-OF-WIGHT- <Isle-of-Wight-L@rootsweb.com>; LiverpoolLady <lesley.culshaw@blueyonder.co.uk> Sent: Saturday, 20 February, 2010 10:36:34 Subject: Re: [IoW] Surname On 20 Feb 2010 at 9:04, LiverpoolLady wrote: > Bear with me : ) can anyone give me the site to the map that is shaded > to show the surname and the coverage of where the name originated. > Sorry not very good at explainin,clear as mud : ) > > Lesley Ü  > Well, I'm glad you said it and not me! I agree that your articulation of facts and questions could bear some improvement. However, I think I know what you mean. There are at least two major reputable sources for surname research and their origins. However, before I continue, here's a HEALTH WARNING! Do NOT pay any attention whatsoever to those commercial outfits that infest shopping malls and the Internet and purport to flog you your "family coal of arms" and a nicely framed scroll allegedly with the history of your surname. These people are charlatans and I call them "bucket shop genealogists". If all you want is something pretty to hang on the living room wall, then OK, but don't take them seriously! For one thing, there is no such thing as a family coat of arms or coat of arms for a surname, moreover I have looked at some of their surname definitions and they are frequently wrong, sometimes hilariously so! Now, I think the website you want is called "spatial literacy" and it can be found at..... http://www.spatial-literacy.org/?page_id=40 It was taken over not long ago by the National Trust. There is also a brilliant CD-ROM called "Surname Atlas" which is produced by a friend of mine, Stephen Archer. This takes all the unique names (surnames AND forenames) from the 1881 census of Britain and produces instant coloured distribution maps of any surname and where it is most strongly resident in the UK. You can have hours of fun with this CD and at 12 quid it's one of the best bargains in genealogy (and, no, I am NOT getting a cut!). Look with Google for Archer Software and you'll find it. -- Roy Stockdill Genealogical researcher, writer & lecturer Newbies' Guide to Genealogy & Family History: www.genuki.org.uk/gs/Newbie.html "There is only one thing in the world worse than being talked about, and that is not being talked about." OSCAR WILDE ************************************** You can contact the Isle of Wight List Administrator by emailing: Isle-of-Wight-Admin@rootsweb.com ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ISLE-OF-WIGHT-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

On 21 Feb 2010 at 12:04, LiverpoolLady wrote: > This is a complaint! and as nothing was done about it the other times > I am sending to the list. Roy Stockdill you are a very arrogant, > bullying individual indeed. Lesley > Oh dear - some people are rather over-touchy and seem unable to take a joke! As I pointed out, you yourself confessed that your question was somewhat badly phrased in your initial message. You also seem to have ignored the very good advice I gave you about where to find information about the origins of surnames, i.e. at the spatial literacy website and the Surnames Atlas CD. I also gave a general warning to listers not to have anything to do with those "bucket shop genealogy" outfits who try and sell you a so-called "family coat of arms" and the alleged history of your surname. I suspect others will see you as being a little over sensitive, dear, especially if you are unable to accept advice from a professional. -- Roy Stockdill Genealogical researcher, writer & lecturer Newbies' Guide to Genealogy & Family History: www.genuki.org.uk/gs/Newbie.html "There is only one thing in the world worse than being talked about, and that is not being talked about." OSCAR WILDE

This is a complaint! and as nothing was done about it the other times I am sending to the list. Roy Stockdill you are a very arrogant, bullying individual indeed. Lesley On 20 Feb 2010 at 9:04, LiverpoolLady wrote: > Bear with me : ) can anyone give me the site to the map that is shaded > to show the surname and the coverage of where the name originated. > Sorry not very good at explainin,clear as mud : )Lesley Ü > -----Original Message----- From: Roy Stockdill roy.stockdill@btinternet.com Sent: 20 February 2010 10:37 To: ISLE-OF-WIGHT-; LiverpoolLady Subject: Re: [IoW] Surname Well, I'm glad you said it and not me! I agree that your articulation of facts and questions could bear some improvement.

Dear Mr. Weaver, I have no HACKLEY or CLAYDEN connections but thought that you might find the following helpful. Go to the Hampshire Record Office's website. Click on Online catalogue'. Then click on 'Start your search' or 'Start your advanced search'. (Both search 'forms' are very limited.) Put 'Hackley' in the search box and press search. You will only find 6 items but they are of your period. Regards, Anne in Wales ======================================== Message Received: Feb 21 2010, 01:31 AM From: "Charlie Weaver" To: "IoWlist" Cc: Subject: [IoW] HACKLEY Surname I would like to correspond with anyone researching the HACKLEY family of Isle of Wight.. I have confirmed information on my immigrant ancestor, John HACKLEY, after he came to Virginia where he died, testate, in 1698. What is less certain is the information I received years ago that he was Christened at Calbourne Parish, I of W, 14 March 1655. John was supposedly the son of Richard HACKLEY who was, also supposedly, of Newport Parish. John's mother was reported as Joane CLAYDEN of Calbourne Parish. No other information available on Richard and Joane. Siblings for my John were reported to be Peter (b.c1660), and Richard (no dates). Any correspondence, on forum or privately, would be greatly appreciated. Charlie Weaver (of the Shropshire WEAVERs) Winston-Salem, North Carolina, USA ************************************** You can contact the Isle of Wight List Administrator by emailing: Isle-of-Wight-Admin@rootsweb.com ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ISLE-OF-WIGHT-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

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Thanx to Bob Chris and Jacqui for their help Lesley Ü Pretty Please can anyone help me get further back with this family, thank you for reading. Lesley 1841 Census Middleton Titchfield Fareham John ISAACS 40 Ag Lab Ann Isaacs 40 John Isaacs 14 William Isaacs 12 Harriet Isaacs 10 Mary Isaacs 8 Betsey Isaacs 5 Jane Isaacs 3 Charles Isaacs 10 Mo ************************************** You can contact the Isle of Wight List Administrator by emailing: Isle-of-Wight-Admin@rootsweb.com ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ISLE-OF-WIGHT-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 9.0.733 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/2695 - Release Date: 02/19/10 07:34:00

I would like to correspond with anyone researching the HACKLEY family of Isle of Wight.. I have confirmed information on my immigrant ancestor, John HACKLEY, after he came to Virginia where he died, testate, in 1698. What is less certain is the information I received years ago that he was Christened at Calbourne Parish, I of W, 14 March 1655. John was supposedly the son of Richard HACKLEY who was, also supposedly, of Newport Parish. John's mother was reported as Joane CLAYDEN of Calbourne Parish. No other information available on Richard and Joane. Siblings for my John were reported to be Peter (b.c1660), and Richard (no dates). Any correspondence, on forum or privately, would be greatly appreciated. Charlie Weaver (of the Shropshire WEAVERs) Winston-Salem, North Carolina, USA