Julie May I suggest you join Mariners-D-request@rootsweb.com They have just about everything you ever wanted to know about ships, shipping and those that sailed. Derek in Vanuatu ----- Original Message ----- From: "Julie Robinson" <juliejameson@slevison.demon.co.uk> To: <ISLE-OF-WIGHT-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, February 04, 2004 10:57 AM Subject: [IoW] 40 JUVENILE TRANSPORTEES FROM PARKHURST - 1848
There is a website at http://www.curiousfox.com/villages/hampshirevillages.html which lists all the towns and villages in Hampshire and includes IOW It also lists people researching names and information on family lines in its results You can email the people direct May be useful for a lot of people Chris and Caroline --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.577 / Virus Database: 366 - Release Date: 03/02/2004
Marian I can probably help you quite a lot. I have been researching the PITTIS name for quite a while now and have quite a lot of information. Unfortunately most of what I have is (so far) unconnected to my own PITTIS branch, but I am sure there is a connection as the name is so uncommon. Robert Jewell EDNEY and Mary Isabella PITTIS married 21 Aug 1816 in Newport, Isle of Wight. the marriage was by licence, Mary was a minor. I have her date of birth as 23 Apr 1796. Both these dates can be found on the IGI, so I suspect this may be her christening date rather than her birth. Mary was the eldest of I believe 15 children of John PITTIS and Mary DORE, married 1 Jul 1795 at Carisbrooke, Isle of Wight. There is evidence that they had some further form of marriage ceremony in 1819 after they had emigrated initially to Baltimore and then almost immediately to Brownsville, Harrison County, Ohio. Robert and Mary Isabella had at least 11 children, the eldest two born on the Isle of Wight, the others in Ohio. I have some information on their children but not much. I can also trace John Pittis back several generations. Much of this information is available in a book written by Margaret Birney Pittis, which is available on film from the LDS Library. My own connection is through Edward PITTIS, my 4*Great Grandfather who married Mary NEWBURY in Shorwell, isle of Wight on 21 Oct 1810. Despite all my efforts to date and those of other researchers, the ancestry of Edward cannot be discovered, though I suspect he may be an illegitimate child of the more prosperous Pittis family who were well known on the Isle of Wight (the name is still to be found as Francis Pittis was an auctioneer, surveyor and estate agent, and the business still exists though now under different ownership (Sir Francis Pittis & Son). Francis was mayor of Newport on several occasions. As I said I have lots more information, most of which you are welcome to share. I recommend also that you try to obtain the book by Margaret B Pittis "Pittis Family History" from the LDS which will give you huge amounts of information on the family. For such a well known Island family I am surprised there is not a copy of it available somewhere on the Island but I have not located one yet. By the way John Pittis was the son of Thomas Pittis and Mary Clarke. The ancestry of Mary Clarke can be traced back several generations, most of this information was obtained through Angela McMurtry who is also a subscriber to this list. Originally it was thought that my Edward was descended from this line but this is almost certainly not the case. Jon Baker Calne, UK www.vectis10w.freeserve.co.uk -----Original Message----- From: Marian Sarantha [mailto:marians@trib.com] Sent: 04 February 2004 19:43 To: ISLE-OF-WIGHT-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [IoW] Re: PITTIS, John and daughter PITTIS, Mary Isabella New list member seeking informaton on PITTIS, Mary Isabella, born date unknown, Isle of Wight. Daughter of PITTIS, John, reportedly a hop merchant and brewer, she married Robert Jewell EDNEY who was born 1792, Milton Parrish of Port Sea, Hampshire County, England. Mary Isabella died in Deersville, Ohio, USA, in 1861. She was my gr-gr-grandmother. I have no information regarding her date of marriage to Robert Jewell Edney or when they emigrated to U. S. Any information, no matter how small, would be welcome. This is my first attempt at finding family on Isle of Wight; any guidance would be deeply appreciated. Marian - USA ______________________________
Hi all, Having recently joined on behalf of a friend who until recently ahd no idea of her origins (she lives, as I do, in South Africa) I wondered if anyone could help me find out more on the SQUIRE family. Are there any mentioned in the book below or in censuses not yet on the Net. What I have established so far is that John Clempson SQUIRE married Mary MERCEL (?), their son Robert Arthur Wellington SQUIRE, b abt 1813 in Newport, came out to South Africa as a builder. His wife was Mary BROMLEY, but I don't know whether he married her there or here. His son, Arthur Robert SQUIRE, the ancestor of my friend, seems to have had siblings Robert, Mary and John (these people I have picked up in various internet censuses in Hampshire and Isle of Wight) who did not come over. If anyone can add any info whatsoever on this family, I would be most grateful, Sincerely Sharon Marshall Cape Town, South Africa ----- Original Message ----- From: "Diana Harding" <di.harding@virgin.net> To: <ISLE-OF-WIGHT-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, February 02, 2004 8:31 PM Subject: Re: [IoW] IOW Book > Yes it does include Dashwood references. > > The Isle of Wight County Press shop (contactable through the newspaper > e-mail / phone) is selling the books (there is a later on East Cowes and one > on West as well) at half price at the moment. > > Etta died last year and I imagine her children have made available the ones > she had at home. > > Di > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Martin Brown" <Martin@netherlea90.freeserve.co.uk> > To: <ISLE-OF-WIGHT-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Sunday, February 01, 2004 3:03 PM > Subject: [IoW] IOW Book > > > > Hi, > > > > Recently someone on the list mentioned a book called "East Cowes and > Whippingham IOW 1303 - 1914" by Rosetta Brading. It apparantly has > references to a number of local families. Does anyone have a copy and, if > so, does it have any references to any DASHWOODS? If so I will try and get > hold of a copy. > > > > Thanks, > > > > Martin Brown. > > > > ______________________________ > > > >
Hello Julie Information re the Parkhurst Boys transported in 1850 can be found at the National Archives at Kew, under reference HO.24/15. I have started indexing some of these each time I go to Kew, but only have 10 names so far for 1850, which are listed on my website. If any of these are of interest, contact me off-list and I will give you full details. > > I am researching the convicts who travelled to van Diemen's Land aboard a vessel named "Rodney" in 1850. > best wishes, Ann Barrett. Isle of Wight http://members.lycos.co.uk/s0uthbury/
Dear Listers, I must apologise for my email re finding copy of a Will written in 1865. Both dates I gave were incorrect (obviously I was having a very bad day ). My WILLIAM TYLER died in 1854, not 1865 nor 1845. Nevertheless, thank you all for your replies, both on and off List they have been most helpful. Sorry once again and thanks Regards Sally Malyon
New list member seeking informaton on PITTIS, Mary Isabella, born date unknown, Isle of Wight. Daughter of PITTIS, John, reportedly a hop merchant and brewer, she married Robert Jewell EDNEY who was born 1792, Milton Parrish of Port Sea, Hampshire County, England. Mary Isabella died in Deersville, Ohio, USA, in 1861. She was my gr-gr-grandmother. I have no information regarding her date of marriage to Robert Jewell Edney or when they emigrated to U. S. Any information, no matter how small, would be welcome. This is my first attempt at finding family on Isle of Wight; any guidance would be deeply appreciated. Marian - USA
Dear List, Mea culpa. The year 1848 was the year in which most convicts were tried; the year of travel was 1850. Regards, Julie
Hello List, I am researching the convicts who travelled to van Diemen's Land aboard a vessel named "Rodney" in 1848. Several pick up points were detailed in the Surgeon's Log, the only record of this journey, the Captain's Log not having survived. In August, 1848 "40 juvenile convicts" were received aboard from Parkhurst. I have the document which lists all the convicts who were to travel on this journey - in all, 312 names. There is no way, however, that I can think of, by which I might determine who were the Parkhurst Boys because no ages are given, and, although the youths were to be embarked from IoW, their places of trial could have been anywhere in the country. Except for one lad who fell ill and whose treatment is detailed by the ship's surgeon, all others are just part of the remaining 311 names. Can anybody please suggest a course of research/exploration/enquiry I might pursue? Yours, Julie
Just thought I'd tell you about a site The Genealogist http://thegenealogist.sandn.net/ Uk Census Names Index. If you have ever thought it would be nice to put something back in to genealogy I'd suggest getting involved with one of the many census indexing projects currently in operation. The one above has 1,200 volunteers currently indexing Surnames from Indexes . There are quite a few years and districts you can choose from . I chose IOW Cowes 1891 ( gee wonder why ) . I will be sent the census piece on CD and all I have to do is index the surnames in to an excel spreadsheet ( if you don't know how to use excel they even supply the spreadsheet) . Data recorded is name, surname . age , reg area , folio and piece. I think eventually they are putting all the indexes online . You can keep going and do as many pieces as you like . It doesn't matter where you live all you need is a computer . Check it out if your interested. Enter the site through the menu on the left of the margin ' the Census Name Index Project' Angela Check it out if you're interested.
Angela I wonder if there is co-operation between this organisation and the FreeCen project. It would be a shame if people are indexing the same censuses. Also was wondering if anyone has already chosen Newport 1871 as I could save someone a fair amount of work as I have already indexed the surnames/street addresses/folios etc in Excel. "All" that would need to be added would be forename and ages. Jon Baker Calne, UK www.vectis10w.freeserve.co.uk -----Original Message----- From: Angela McMurtry [mailto:palmtreeqld@optusnet.com.au] Sent: 03 February 2004 11:51 To: ISLE-OF-WIGHT-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [IoW] UK CENSUS NAMES INDEX PROJECT Just thought I'd tell you about a site The Genealogist http://thegenealogist.sandn.net/ Uk Census Names Index. If you have ever thought it would be nice to put something back in to genealogy I'd suggest getting involved with one of the many census indexing projects currently in operation. The one above has 1,200 volunteers currently indexing Surnames from Indexes . There are quite a few years and districts you can choose from . I chose IOW Cowes 1891 ( gee wonder why ) . I will be sent the census piece on CD and all I have to do is index the surnames in to an excel spreadsheet ( if you don't know how to use excel they even supply the spreadsheet) . Data recorded is name, surname . age , reg area , folio and piece. I think eventually they are putting all the indexes online . You can keep going and do as many pieces as you like . It doesn't matter where you live all you need is a computer . Check it out if your interested. Enter the site through the menu on the left of the margin ' the Census Name Index Project' Angela Check it out if you're interested. ______________________________
Could anyone advise how I can obtain copy of a Will made in 1845 in Newport Isle of Wight. Thanks Sally Malyon Researching TYLER, KEARLEY, PEACH, TEE, STEPHENS
As I am still getting requests for the scan of this I thought it best to post it to the list. Hope thats okay Elmo? There are some photos and a graphic showing the family tree, unfortunately I had deleted the lot as nobody else asked but tonight we had two more requests!! If anyone wants the graphic of the family tree please contact Elmo the List administrator as I am pretty sure he will pass it on to you. If not Angela McMurty. Chris and Caroline ISLAND LIFE:The remarkable story of a farming family ANDREW WILSON meets an Isle of Wight Farmer who, thanks to the internet and our Genealogist ROBERT BARRETT, can trace his famil back 500 years. Farmer David James, 63, lives in Merstone, on the Isle of Wight, with his wife, Loiraine, 59. They have two sons, Roland, 38, a farmer, and Nicholas, 36, a horticulturist He says: I've always been too busy farming to find out much about my family's history, but now I know how rewarding it is, I'm interested in discovering more. Journeying back into the past really helps anchor you in the present The most surprising discovery is the fact that my family has lived on the Isle of Wight — with only one or two exceptions - for the past 500 years. The family story is packed with some truly fascinating characters, men and women who really do come alive when youstart 'digging around'. We started the research in the graveyard at Binstead, near Newport, where many of my ancestors were buried. From here, we managed to establish the names and dates of many family members. but information about their lives was extremely sparse. What we needed were the little details that would bring them to life. To find out where the local record office was situated, we logged onto the National Archives website (www.nationalarchives.gov.uk), which told us that a good source was the Isle of Wight Record Office (www.iwightcom/library/record_office/defaultasp). In addition, the parish registers and details of land holdings on the island, documented by local archivist Clifford Webster, proved invaluable, as did the Society of Genealogists' website (www.sog.org.uk) and the Family Records Office (www.familyrecords.gov.uk). I knew that I came from a long line of staunch Methodists and it was fascinating to discover more about my great-grandfather, Edwin, who lived between 1849 and 1933, and my grandfather. Henry, born in 1879. who was a builder and funeral director. Edwin was a local preacher who built the Methodist chapels at Binstead and in Ryde, a county alderman and councillor, and it is thanks to his lineof the family that the Jameses came into some money. His father. William, had a cousin. Charlotte Rosa Raine. born in London, in 1819. who had quite a modest background -- her mother. Ann Joblin, was a shoemaker's daughter. In 1818, Ann married Richard Raine. who was Winston Churchill's grandfather's land agent. Richard wisely advised the James family to invest money In Lambeth Water Works shares — the shares shot up in value and made them a small fortune. A great deal of this information came about by dilligent research over the The London Metropolitan Archives (www.cityoflondon.gov.uk) gave us details of the water works, while the Hampshire Record Office helped us track down willsof the family. The internet also showed that one of my ancestors — Robert James, my great-great- great-great-great-great-grandfather - went to Portsmouth. He set himself up as an innkeeper on The Point, which was then a scurrilous place, full of criminals and prostitutes. We typed his name into the Public Records Office internet site (now www.nationalarchives.gov.uk) and it threw up listings regarding a legal case. Robert. who was born in 1655. had had an argument with his landlord, who accused him of neglecting his property. Other documents at Portsmouth City Records (www.portsmouth recordsoffice.co.uk), showed that his mother- in-law, Susanna Earles, was sent to Jail for keeping a bawdy house. Finding out things like that can be a little surprising at first, but I think it Just adds to the richness of the family's history. I've always felt intimately connected with the Isle of Wight - and. thanks to the net, now I know why. --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.572 / Virus Database: 362 - Release Date: 27/01/2004
Yes it does include Dashwood references. The Isle of Wight County Press shop (contactable through the newspaper e-mail / phone) is selling the books (there is a later on East Cowes and one on West as well) at half price at the moment. Etta died last year and I imagine her children have made available the ones she had at home. Di ----- Original Message ----- From: "Martin Brown" <Martin@netherlea90.freeserve.co.uk> To: <ISLE-OF-WIGHT-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, February 01, 2004 3:03 PM Subject: [IoW] IOW Book > Hi, > > Recently someone on the list mentioned a book called "East Cowes and Whippingham IOW 1303 - 1914" by Rosetta Brading. It apparantly has references to a number of local families. Does anyone have a copy and, if so, does it have any references to any DASHWOODS? If so I will try and get hold of a copy. > > Thanks, > > Martin Brown. > > ______________________________
Thank you for your reply but I was hoping someone in the I.o.W. might have connections with Epsom and have the Disc. Trying any thing at the moment Regards Martin Brace owner of CHIVINGTON surname board @rootsweb.com other names: BRACE-BRISTOL, HEREFORD & LONDON. CHIVINGTON-EWELL, SURREY, LONDON, ANY WHERE FOX-LONDON MCNAMARA-I.O.W, LONDON
Hi LISTERS, I wondered if sks would Please lookup 1871 census for the Family Name of CHIVINGTON who lived in West St, Ewell, Epsom Thank you for help and time in advance. Regards Martin Brace owner of CHIVINGTON surname board @rootsweb.com other names: BRACE-BRISTOL , HEREFORD & LONDON. CHIVINGTON-EWELL , SURREY, LONDON, ANY WHERE FOX-LONDON MCNAMARA-LONDON
Hi, Recently someone on the list mentioned a book called "East Cowes and Whippingham IOW 1303 - 1914" by Rosetta Brading. It apparantly has references to a number of local families. Does anyone have a copy and, if so, does it have any references to any DASHWOODS? If so I will try and get hold of a copy. Thanks, Martin Brown.
Will be unsubbing, and coming back with familysearch@verizon.net See you soon. Patricia Corney, BHCD Quakertown, PA USA bluroc@worldnet.att.net EMail scanned in and out Norton 2003
I must thank Chris & Caroline for responding to my request for a scan of the Daily Mail story, they came out great, and as I suspected there was a connection as part of the James Line connects to the descendants of Ann Fleming and John Joblin of Godshill. My mother was a Fleming, her father Frederick having been born at Sheepwash Farm south of Godshill, a fine old stone farmhouse to this day. Phil White in New Hampshire USA Roots in Sussex and IOW
I will scan it for you a b it later Phil and email it on to you Chris -----Original Message----- From: Phil White [mailto:wgrandmapa@cyberportal.net] Sent: 31 January 2004 14:31 To: ISLE-OF-WIGHT-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [IoW] Robert BARRETT Robert Barrett contacted me several years ago regarding my FLEMING family on the IOW, actually traced a neice of mine and phoned her, and he was very helpful and knowledgeable but unfortunately was not computerised and all correspondence was by email. I asked Anne if he was related but she said no, I would like to see a copy of that article in the Daily Mail if someone could scan it though I have had poor results from scanning newspaper articles Phil White in New Hampshire Roots in Sussex & IOW --- Incoming mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.572 / Virus Database: 362 - Release Date: 27/01/2004 --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.572 / Virus Database: 362 - Release Date: 27/01/2004