Found some strays in Portsmouth in 1871 Census PART ONE Maude CUTHBERT Un Age 19 Milliner b Newport Mary CLAYTON Un Servant Age 30 b Newport Emily SRPINGER Un Servant Age 22 b Ryde Samuel YOUNG Age 63 Naval Pensioner b West Cowes ( wife Jane age 57 b Devon) Norah SMITH Un Servant Age 13 (?) b Newport Alfred SHEATH Age 26 Seaman b Ventnor ( wife Elizabeth age 27 b Durham) Oscar MEDGETT Un Age 28 Boarder RN Seaman b Seaview Thomas BRINECOME (?) Father In Law Widow Age 65 Seaman b St Helens Henry BENDER (?) Age 45 Shipwright b St Helens Abram ABRAHAM Widow Age 60 Labourer b IOW Anne C BURDEN Head Un Age 33 Grocer b St Helens John ABRAHAM H Age 35 Unchart Seaman b Newport Ann WOODOFORD Age 34 Un Servant b Calbourne Frederick WIMBELDON Boarder Un Age 20 Groom b Carrisbrooke John SYMONDS Head Age 45 Photographer b Cowes Eliza SYMONDS Wife Age 44 b Lincoln Kate SYMONDS Dau Un Age 21 Photographers Assistant b Cowes Frank PAUL Un Servant Age 18 Waiter b Cowes

I can understand reasons for mispelling CLARKE/ CLARK for example but complete surname changes in LALLOW to LAWRENCE ( don't even sound the same ) would be more than a clerical error . Maybe that branch had something to hide :-) Something else I come across from time to time are those born before their parents are married and registered in mothers maiden name . They seem to keep the mothers maiden name all their life , even after their parents have married . That mucks up the family tree progame as well ( particulary males ) Angela

On the IGI there is a William Corney, b. 12 Feb 1765 Arreton;c. 12 Feb 1765 Godshill,died Oct 1868 Godshill and married Mary BRENTON about 1741. Did they have children? Is this the William Corney who married a Ann HATCHER on 10 Jul 1788 at Godshill? I show the following children for William and Ann Hatcher: William COrney, b/c 1790 John Corney, b/c 1794 Ruth Corney, b/c 1794 - m. John Cooper 1816 Mary COrney, b/c 1798 - m. Charles Cooper Ann Corney, b/c 1800 - m. Thomas Cooper Any information greatly appreciated to keep tree correct. = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = Pat C., BHCD Quakertown, PA US BLUROC1@worldnet.att.net All mail scanned by Norton 2004 = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = =

OLIVER, Sarah b. 1793 PARKER, Catherine b. 1824 PARKER, Sarah b. 1848 POTTER, Mary b. 1822 PRAYNELL, Mark b. 1782 REAL, William Broad b. 1846 REALL, Conrad b. 1846 REDDING, Amelia b. 1831 Freshwater ROBINSON, Catherine b. 1829 Freshwater RUSSELL, Mary b. 1800 SMALL, Elizabeth b. 1836 SMALL, Henry b. 1834 SMALL, William b. 1801 W. Cowes SMITH, Catharine b. 1814 Ryde SPURWAY, Louisa b. 1831 Newport TEMPLE, Eliza b. 1808 THOMAS, Ann b. 1808 TUCK, Elizabeth b. 1842 Newport TUCK, Henry b. 1813 Newport WALKLEY, Elizabeth b. 1801 WARE, Ed b. 1808 WATTS, Mary Ann b. 1813 WEBB, Ann b. 1847 WEBSTER, William b. 1810 Yarmouth WHEELER, James b. 1815 Cowes WHITE, John b. 1819 Niton WHITNEY, Eliza b. 1806 WILD, Mary Ann b. 1801 WILLIAMS, Thomas b. 1805 WOOLNER, Jemima b. 1805 WOOLNER, Sophia b. 1829 That's the lot. Regards Sally Malyon

A few more: LYONS, Jane b. 1819 MC ARTHUR, Ann b 1801 MCKENNA, Mary b. 1849 MCKNIGHT, Patrick b. 1810 MEHEUSE, Thomas C. b. 1801 MENNIE, Rice b. 1808 MEW, Helen b. 1833 Newport MEW, James b. 1826 Newport MOORMAN, Jacob b. 1815 MUNDY, Ann b. 1789 Cowes MUNDY, Thomas b. 1788 Cowes NEAVE, Henry b. 1844 NEWBY, Emma J. b. 1845 NEWMAN, Sarah b. 1829 Newport NORTH, William b. 1804 NORTHCOTE, Frances H b. 1838 Regards Sally Malyon

A few people born IOW found on the above census HEARN, Fanny b. 1816 HEMSWORTH, Jane Maria b. 1784 Arreton HEWETT, Mary b. 1804 HODGES, Elizabeth b. 1838 HODGES, Henrietta b. 1838 HODGES, Jennet Kate b. 1843 HODGES, Joseph Francis b. 1836 HODGES, Martha Jessie b. 1833 HODGES, William Burnet b. 1841 HOOK, Frederick b. 1849 HOOK, Richard b. 1845 HOOK, Robert b. 1847 HUNTINGDON, Isabel b. 1787 Arreton JACOBS, William b. 1786 Cowes JOHNSON, Matthew b. 1815 LAWTON, Elizabeth b. 1848 LEROUX, Mary E. b. 1790 Newport LOUGHRIN, Mary Jane b. 1848 Hope these are of use to someone. A few more to follow. Regards Sally Malyon

Here are a few IOW Strays found on the 1851 Census for Devon, Norfolk and Warwick. ANDREW, Mary Ann b. 1826 BARTER, Edward b. 1801 BIRNER, Sarah b. 1790 BOND, Christopher b. 1805 BRIGHT, Jane b. 1809 CALLIPHRONAS, Demetrius b. 1845 CHAPLIN, Charles b. 1801 COLLINS, Caroline b. 1827 COOPER, Jessy A. b. 1818 EYRES, Frances b. 1826 GALPIN, James b. 1806 GERRARD, Mary b. 1849 GERRARD, Samuel b. 1848 GERRARD, Robert b. 1845 GOODWIN, John b. 1814 HAUSE, Mary b. 18256 HAWTREY, H b. 1823 Ryde HAYDEN, William b. 1785 HAYNES, Mary Ann b. 1835 Niton If anyone wants the entry, let me know. Will it be of interest if I continue and complete the list? Regards Sally Malyon

A bad mouse can cause 2 or 3 emails to be sent to the deleted items folder, it almost becomes overactive ! Seldon Parker, Oakwood, ON ----- Original Message ----- From: T Woodford To: ISLE-OF-WIGHT-L@rootsweb.com Sent: Sunday, March 14, 2004 1:34 PM Subject: [IoW] Blocked Senders List Dear Listors, This query is off base, I know but as it concerns answers recieved from some of you I put my problem to you all. I have been finding unread messages in my Deleted Items box. This even includes statements from my Medical Aid fund. I use Outlook Express - how do I access the list of people that I have placed on the Blocked Senders list? I suspect that this is where the problem lies although I only use this facility for Spam and suspect mail. Any advice would be appreciated Terence in sunny South Africa. ______________________________ --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.596 / Virus Database: 379 - Release Date: 2/26/2004

Hi Pat, This is a long shot! I have SIMMONDS from Shinfield, Berks. William John married Elizabeth? 1823- there were five children:- Mary 1827 my g-gram, Elizabeth 1832, Henry 1835, William 1836, Sarah 1838. Mary and her husband William WILLIS moved at some point after their marriage to IOW where fours sons and a daughter were born. The daughter died on IOW and the rest of the family came to Canada in 1875. Not sure if other SIMMONDS were living on IOW when Mary and William went there. Just thought I'd throw this out to you and the others. Dawn (Smyth) Hicks Family Research: SMYTH, SPENCER, SPARKHALL, CUBITT, BOWER, WORTS, DEARING, GLEESON, LANDRY/LONDRY, WILLIS, HUMPHREY, HENLEY/HENERBY - married in: Brown & Browne, Barnham, Shepherd, More, Randle, Wright, McArthur, Bloomer, Tustian, Doan, Burnette, Stillwell, Luck, Huckle, Nelson, Foreman, Sherk, Near, Clark, Fligg, Gould, Sparling and many more!! -----Original Message----- From: Pat Wolfe [mailto:patw49@tampabay.rr.com] Sent: March 14, 2004 3:47 PM To: ISLE-OF-WIGHT-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [IoW] Simons Henry Hi Listers, With all this talk of names changing and being spelled differently, thought maybe I could ask a favor. My GGgrandfather Henry Simons shows on the 1901 and 1891 census ones says born in Cowes(1901 Leicester) and other Newport. I'm guessing his DOB to be about 1827. Most of the Simons I find in all my searches for IOW are spelled Symonds, Simmons, etc. Could someone maybe do a lookup for 1841 Census. He later must of moved to Corby Nhants area as that is where his daughter was born, in 1861. Any help would be appreciated. Pat in Sunny Florida/USA ______________________________

Who knows more about a Hollier (Hollyer)-Family of the Isle of Wight. I am looking for a Roger Hollier of Wroxall (his son Roger, of Newport, married 1716 Rebecca Till). Where did he come from, who was his wife. He is mentioned in the will (1706) of the dissenting minister of Newport, William Leigh, what could be the connection? All information will be helpful, Regards, Rob Schouten, Amsterdam

For Outlook Express click on Tools then click on Message Rules then click on Blocked Senders List there you can add and delete emails addresses Hope this helps. = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = Pat C., BHCD Quakertown, PA US BLUROC1@worldnet.att.net All mail scanned by Norton 2004 = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = ----- Original Message ----- From: T Woodford To: ISLE-OF-WIGHT-L@rootsweb.com Sent: Sunday, March 14, 2004 1:34 PM Subject: [IoW] Blocked Senders List Dear Listors, This query is off base, I know but as it concerns answers recieved from some of you I put my problem to you all. I have been finding unread messages in my Deleted Items box. This even includes statements from my Medical Aid fund. I use Outlook Express - how do I access the list of people that I have placed on the Blocked Senders list? I suspect that this is where the problem lies although I only use this facility for Spam and suspect mail. Any advice would be appreciated Terence in sunny South Africa. ______________________________

>Mark et al, Loved reading about the variations on the name URRY. >One of my more illustrious >ancestors of the 17th century, signed his name differently on several >very official documents. I guess he just couldn't spell! In the Will I have just finished transcribing for John DINGLEY, his surname is spelled variously as DINGLEY, DYNGLEY and DINGLIE - all written by the one scribe in the one Will!!!!! What hope have we got????? And here I've been insisting on the "Y" in COLLYER all my life :) David in Ballarat

>Dear Jon, I did notice that there are a couple of PITTIS Wills at documentsonline. If yours is there it might help clear things up. THere are 1425 Ilse of Wight Wills there, and so far I've scanned the titles of 500 of them - 1000 to go David in Ballarat >I don't often post with requests for lookups, but I wonder if anyone can >help me out. In an effort to make progress with identifying the origins of >my 4*Great Grandfather Edward Pittis, I sent away for a Death Certificate in >the hope that it might contain details which might show that it was the >correct certificate for him. Sadly it posed more questions than answers >because the Informant was given as Catherine SALTER, and not, as hoped, >Edward's wife (Mary PITTIS nee NEWBURY) or even one of his children (Edward >and Mary had 14 children but none known called Catherine). Mary is known to >have died in 1868. > >The Certificate gives Edward's age as 63, and the date 26 October 1842. So, >my question, does anyone have access to the 1841 census, or at least an >index, for Gatcombe. Although the 41 does not give relationships, I would >like to know who else (if anyone) was in the same household. I'm reasonably >certain that this Death Cert is for the right Edward PITTIS but could do >with some corroborating evidence. > >As a separate question does anyone have Catherine Salter in their family >tree, and might be able to explain why she was the informant? > >Thanks > >Jon Baker >Calne, UK >www.vectis10w.freeserve.co.uk

Dear Listors, This query is off base, I know but as it concerns answers recieved from some of you I put my problem to you all. I have been finding unread messages in my Deleted Items box. This even includes statements from my Medical Aid fund. I use Outlook Express - how do I access the list of people that I have placed on the Blocked Senders list? I suspect that this is where the problem lies although I only use this facility for Spam and suspect mail. Any advice would be appreciated Terence in sunny South Africa.

I'd like to recommend the following URL . Go to the Archive Section ( particularly good if it's not a common surname ) found some wonderful war references , bankruptcy details and probate . Angela http://www.gazette-online.co.uk/

This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. --=_NextPart_Lycos_0275571079286473_ID Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi I am hoping someone would be kind enough to look up the marriage of Charles Orchard and Sarah. They lived in the Wootton Bridge area and were married between 1830 - 1837. I am trying to find out Sarah's maiden name. Many thanks for your help. Caroline Lycos EMail has 10 MB of storage space. http://mail.lycos.co.uk --=_NextPart_Lycos_0275571079286473_ID--

Hi! A very familiar problem indeed. When growing up on the Island, our family surname, FOUNTAINE, was said to be a separate entity from another family, FOUNTAIN. There was no relationship at all, we were told. As I have delved deeper into the tree, I find that not only are we related, both families are from the the same ancestor: Frederic FOUNTAIN who arrived on the Island sometime between the 1851 and 1861 census. Why was the 'E' added? Possibly because of the standard of literacy of the clerk who recorded the name sometime, or as a way perhaps of distancing one half of the family from the other due to a feud, or more likely a scandal. (My grandfather was born in the Carrisbrooke House of industry to a solo mother -Oh shock, horror!!) Also, regarding spelling, we had a friend, family name was GARDNER, who totally disregarded any other spelling; i.e. GARDINER, GARDENER etc, No matter how often we told him that spelling was at the whim of the enumerators in 19th Century censuses, he would not have it. I understand he gave up in the end being unable to trace his lineage back any further than three generations. Derek in Vanuatu (31C partly cloudy and showers) ----- Original Message ----- From: " Angela McMurtry" <palmtreeqld@optusnet.com.au> To: <ISLE-OF-WIGHT-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, March 13, 2004 1:54 PM Subject: [IoW] Name Changes > Martin > > The million dollar question Brown or Browne / Clarke or Clark / Cowan or > McCowan or Coan. > I have this problem all the time. > > For myself , I use the most common form in the family but always make a note > in the file somwhere to tell me another spelling has been used . > > > What I do get frustrated with are some people who contact me re Clarke and I > have their family in my database but they reject the details because ' mine > were CLARK without the E ' .. lost count of the number of times Ive been > frustrated with people ! Any name I research I always check for spelling > variations particulary in Census. > > More puzzling are those families who decide to have a complete name change > . One of my IOW LALLOW families decided to adopt the surname LAWRENCE and > use LALLOW as a middle name . > I have kept them as Lallow but made a note they opted for Lawrence . All > gets a bit confusing > > Angela > > > >

David , Thanks for posting that URL . I found my great grandfather had served in WWW1 and there are medal papers ! I am so excited . I had heard the family story that he served in WWW1 but given my aunts vague recollections I was rather skeptical .. I'm eating humble pie now ! Thanks to this site I also know which regiment he served with . THANKS A MILLION Angela

Name Changes... There are three fundamental reasons why spellings of surnames vary enormously: 1) Most of our ancestors until the middle of the 19th century were illiterate, or barely so, 2) Only in the 18th century, with the publication of the first English language dictionary, Samuel Johnson's, did society begin to adopt standardized spelling. Before then the rule was as often as not spell a word any way you like, so long as its pronunciation seemed normal (I've read many documents from 17th century New England in which the same word----I'm speaking of normal words, not proper names----might be spelled as many as three or four different ways), and 3) Only in the 19th century did society begin to keep formal records, a very strong impetus for standardizing spellings. The moral is don't read a lot into a particular spelling. For given or surnames there may have been a dozen variations extant in the same document, among siblings or cousins, or in the next town. Use spelling variations for clues to possible relationships, but don't look at any one as the "right" one. For names there are no "right" spellings, other than the one a person chooses for their own name. Kelvin Kean Elverson PA USA

Hi Listers, With all this talk of names changing and being spelled differently, thought maybe I could ask a favor. My GGgrandfather Henry Simons shows on the 1901 and 1891 census ones says born in Cowes(1901 Leicester) and other Newport. I'm guessing his DOB to be about 1827. Most of the Simons I find in all my searches for IOW are spelled Symonds, Simmons, etc. Could someone maybe do a lookup for 1841 Census. He later must of moved to Corby Nhants area as that is where his daughter was born, in 1861. Any help would be appreciated. Pat in Sunny Florida/USA