Does someone know if there is any connection at the end of 17th century between the Guyer-family of IoW (or mainland Hampshire) and members of a Leigh-family? Rob Schouten, Amsterdam

Angela McMurtry wrote: > David you want to swap Collyer for MCMURTRY? . People usually say ' Mc Who > ?' > > One letter arrived last week addressed to Angela McDonald . I rest my case. > > Actually best letter was from the Tax Office Angela Mc ............. no > surname . > > Off for a Guiness to celebrate that part of me which is Irish .......hic > > Angela Don't you mean "Guinness"? Shame on your Irish part! :-) Alan - looking for ATTRILLs (to get back on-topic). -- Alan Summerfield Heidelberg Germany http://alan.uni-hd.de/gen/ATTRILL/tree.html

Speaking of surnames gone crazy, I can't find any info on my relative, Elizabeth SO(U)THCOTT. I know that she was born in 1833 and married James ADAMS in 1852. Together they had three children (that I know of), James ADAMS, William Southcott ADAMS and Bertha ADAMS. After James Sr. passed away, she married a John W. MEDLEY in 1866. She passed away in 1908 and was buried in Ryde Cemetery. If someone could please find some information on her or her family (parents? siblings?) . . . In the 1881, I found her and her family living in Ryde. Their next door neighbor just happened to be a Henry SOUTHCOTT . . . I don't know if this is a brother, a cousin, an uncle or what. Frustrating! Thanks! Happy St. Patty's Day! Kelly

Dear Friends and Cousins, I came across the following in an old email I'd saved when searching newspapers. I know it will be of interest to someone here:- Newspaper (30/1/1837), in the Newport report dated 28 January, I saw: "At the Town Hall last before Lord Yarborough and a full bench of Magistrates, James MIDLANE and Richard DAWSON, butcher, St. Helens, for offering bribes to the preventive men in order that they might run some contraband goods, were convicted in the penalty of 200 pounds, which was mitigated to 100 pounds, in default of which they were committed to Winchester gaol, until paid." Regards David in Ballarat

Dear Listers, Herb Clark of Florida spotted the problem. He suggested I reduced my browser's security settings, I dropped my security settings from 'Low' to 'Lower' and all was fine. I was able to check out my ancestors while big brother checked out me !!! Mark Urry Marans, France. URRY Family History at http://www.marcireau.fr/urry/ BASTIANI Family History at http://www.marcireau.fr/bastiani/

Hi David in Ballarat and fellow searchers, This a real gem of a site you have pointed out to us. I had no luck myself but noted many of the other family names that are being researched by folks on this list. Thanks for sharing it with us. As you say, it would be great to have the Winchester wills on line. I know that there would be a lot of goodies there for me. regards, Terence in S. Africa

Hi Valerie You don't happen to know where Albert is buried do you? Please let me know if you do. Thanks. Sally-Ann ----- Original Message ----- From: <VALERIEAVRIL@aol.com> To: <ISLE-OF-WIGHT-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, March 16, 2004 4:52 PM Subject: Re: [IoW] More on MIDLANE & DAWSON Hello ALL, I am sure that is of no help with your MIDLANE's but a Thomas J.MIDLANE was a witness at my GGrandparent's wedding Frank and Edith BEAVIS 28/11/1881 at Newport Register Office.Thomas MIDLANE was 32 and a Outfitter and clothier,living as a lodger at 31,High Street,Newport in the 1891 census. There is also Albert MIDLANE an Ironmonger living at Forest View,St.Johns Road,Carisbrooke,he was born 23/01/1825 and died 27/02/1909.Albert also wrote many hymns including"There's a friend for little children" Regards Valerie.

I have a news cuttiing reporting my uncle Harold (Robert) MOSS' wedding to Margaret Florey of Sudbury at St. Joseph's Church, Wembley Hill on 11 Nov.1916. (He was born in S. Africa on 15 July 1894) The report stated that he was from "Heilbron", Cowes and his brother Albert Stanley MOSS R.E. was his best man. This is all I know of Harold to date. Any ideas? Was "Heilbron" perhaps a farm? The Newport Roman Catholic church recorded the marriage of my youngest uncle Albert Stanley MOSS to Constance Gertrude WEBB on 18 Aug.1919. This the last record I have of him. Albert was also born in S.Africa on 15 March 1897. My aunt, Annabel May MOSS ( b. 25 June 1891 at Freshwater, IOW) also married in the Newport R.C. church on 5th September 1910 to Percy Winser Joseph Etherington of Portmsouth, son of Thomas Etherington. My grandfather, Sgt. Maj. Moss was killed at Kimberley during the Anglo-Boer War (Dec.1899) The family returned home and in 1906 grandmother Bridget MOSS (nee Brennan) was at The Avenue, Totland. In 1911 she was living at "Penrhyn", The Avenue, Totland Bay. She died at age 67 on 25 Oct. 1924 at Belmont, Cowes. I might add that my mother, Florence Annie MOSS returned to S. Africa to marry my father Harry Harcourt who had come here at age 17 in 1902. Harry was born 19 August 1884. Bapt. 7 Dec. 1884 Parish of Totland. All these island connections and I seem to have hit the wall. Any and all contributions will be greatly appreciated. Terence in S. Africa

Hello Sally-Ann, Albert is buried at Carisbrooke Cemetery,which I think is called Mount Joy.There is some articles about him if you go into Google. Kind regards Valere

A conveyance document dated June 1871 names my g/grandfather Benjamin (b.1809 probably at Calbourne) and two of his brothers. I would be obliged if someone can check the 1871 census for the address and households for the latter as well as my g/great-uncle George. 1] Joseph WOODFORD of Cowes, Gent. (b.c.1813 probably Calbourne) 2] John WOODFORD of Calbourne, Butcher (b.c.1813-15) 3] George WOODFORD b.Calbourne c.1849-50. May have resided at Shalfleet in 1871. regards, Terence in S. Africa

Thanks David...wonder if this is James 1803, younger brother to my Thomas b 1796, comvicted smuggler????? Sounds familiar! Regards Debbie -------Original Message------- From: David Collyer Date: Tuesday, March 16, 2004 15:10:55 To: ISLE-OF-WIGHT-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [IoW] More on MIDLANE & DAWSON Dear Friends and Cousins, I came across the following in an old email I'd saved when searching newspapers. I know it will be of interest to someone here:- Newspaper (30/1/1837), in the Newport report dated 28 January, I saw: "At the Town Hall last before Lord Yarborough and a full bench of Magistrates, James MIDLANE and Richard DAWSON, butcher, St. Helens, for offering bribes to the preventive men in order that they might run some contraband goods, were convicted in the penalty of 200 pounds, which was mitigated to 100 pounds, in default of which they were committed to Winchester gaol, until paid." Regards David in Ballarat .

Rob, Try Peter Walker at the Hollier/Hollyer One Name Study site http://homepage.ntlworld.com/peter.walker6/hollhome.htm Martin Hagger Goodmayes, Ilford, Essex ----- Original Message ----- From: <alkan@euronet.nl> To: <ISLE-OF-WIGHT-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, March 15, 2004 12:11 PM Subject: [IoW] Hollier family ca. 1700 Who knows more about a Hollier (Hollyer)-Family of the Isle of Wight. I am looking for a Roger Hollier of Wroxall (his son Roger, of Newport, married 1716 Rebecca Till). Where did he come from, who was his wife. He is mentioned in the will (1706) of the dissenting minister of Newport, William Leigh, what could be the connection? All information will be helpful, Regards, Rob Schouten, Amsterdam ______________________________

HELP! I've visited the Documents Online site and have tried to do a search for my ancestors. Everything seems to work according to plan and I'm redirected to a "Please Wait..." page with little arrows printing themselves steadily across and down the screen, and that is all! I have a fast broadband connection and left the page running over lunch. I live in France, so after lunch some 2.5 hours later I expected to see lots of ancestors. Nothing! Just more little arrows, not even an Indian! I decided to refine my research to someone more specific who should be there. Still more arrows! ...and more, and more, and more... Perhaps I'm in too much of a hurry...? :) Mark Urry Marans, France. URRY Family History at http://www.marcireau.fr/urry/ BASTIANI Family History at http://www.marcireau.fr/bastiani/

Hello ALL, I am sure that is of no help with your MIDLANE's but a Thomas J.MIDLANE was a witness at my GGrandparent's wedding Frank and Edith BEAVIS 28/11/1881 at Newport Register Office.Thomas MIDLANE was 32 and a Outfitter and clothier,living as a lodger at 31,High Street,Newport in the 1891 census. There is also Albert MIDLANE an Ironmonger living at Forest View,St.Johns Road,Carisbrooke,he was born 23/01/1825 and died 27/02/1909.Albert also wrote many hymns including"There's a friend for little children" Regards Valerie.

Hi Listers, I have put a picture of my Ancestor on my group on MSN. www. RootTracing@groups.msn.com. Could someone Please tell me what the year it was taken and if the people in it were boxers. Your help will be appreciated Regards Martin Brace Owner of CHIVINGTON surname board @rootsweb.com other names: BERTRAND--BETHNAL GREEN, LONDON & FRANCE. BRACE--BRISTOL, HEREFORD & LONDON. COLLINS--BETHNAL GREEN. CHANNELL--EWELL, EPSOM, ANYWHERE. CHIVINGTON--EWELL, SURREY, LONDON, ANY WHERE. FOX--LONDON. MCNAMARA--LONDON, I.O.W. READING--OTFORD SEVENOAKS. SUMMERS--BERMONDSEY, BELLINGHAM, LONDON. STRANGEWAY--LONDON. Owner of RootTracing@uk.msnusers.com

Dear Friends & Cousins, Last night I caught myself buying 3 more Wills online!!! (didn't catch myself in time I'm afraid). They are those of:- - Benjamin BARKHAM d. 1666 - Benjamin BARKHAM, d. 1815 - John NEWLAND, d. 1519 When I searched I put NO names at all and simply Wight in the place section. The site then listed the 1425 Wills which come from the IOW. I have now skimmed through the last 500 to check for those of my family - will do a few more tonight and every night until they're done. It doesn't take that long actually. It would seem that these are Wills which were lodged at Canterbury and as such there are many more from the IOW which were of course lodged at Winchester. I do hope the PRO get around to putting Winchester Wills online :) David in Ballarat

Thanks to all who responded to my call for help. Lessons learnt? Never assume that an unlikely looking path can be overlooked! I have to watch for finger fault when all the time I thought it may be due to some bug/worm/virus. Hi Alandra! You are the first person with a S.African connection on this list. One of my uncles Reginald or Percival Woodford died in Canada(Montreal or Vancouver) somewhere in the period 1950-70. Thanks again to you all, Terence

PART TWO Joseph THOMPSON Age 46 Labourer b Brading ( plus wife ) George VINCENT Age 24 or 44 ( line going through entry ) Boarder Un Joiner b Newport George MILLAR Age 50 Cabinet Maker b West Cowes Martha MILLAR Wife Age 50 b West Cowes Henry Thomas DERRICKE Lodger Age 40 Furniture Salesman b West Cowes Jane JACKMAN Lodger Age 55 Charwoman b Newport William DAVIS Age 67 Carpenter b Dorset Mary Ann DAVIS Wife Age 59 b Ryde Emma DAVID Dau Un Age 23 Piano Forte Teacher b Ryde Ann JACKMAN Age 61 b Whippingham Martha JACKMAN Dau Age 35 Dressmaker b Newport Edwin ORMOND AGe 49 Mariner b Portsea Mary ORMOND Wife Age 51 b Cowes Mary ORMOND Dau Age 19 b Cowes Kate ORMOND Dau Age 16 b Cowes William ORMOND Widow Father Age 89 ? Retired Mariner b Bembridge Edith MARCHAM Dau Married Age 27 b Cowes Rose MARCHAM GDau Age 11 b Cowes Henry BRETT Age 54 Labourer in Iron Works b SHanklin Hattie BRETT Wife Age 41 b Ventnor William BRETT Son Age 17 Lab in Iron Works b Ventnor James BRETT Son Age 16 Boy in Iron Works b Ventnor Ann BRETT Dau Age 14 b Ventnor Thomas DAVIS lodger Age 50 SHipwright b Cowes William BALLARD Lodger Age 28 Unmarried Carpenter b Cowes Henry HOLBROOK Age 59 Lab b IOW Sarah HOLBROOK Wife Age 64 b IOW John PAVIST (?) Age 24 Ships Carpenter b West Cowes Herbert COOMBES Lodger Age 18 Labourer b Ryde Rhoda TUCKER Head Widow Age 40 Retired Publican b Newport William DEAR......... Nephew Age 18 Un App Carpenter b Newport John JOLLIFFE AGe 44 SHipwright b West Cowes Jane "" Wife Age 56 b Winchester E Alps Jolliffe Son Age 15 b West Cowes E Benjamin Jolliffe Son Age 13 b West Cowes Henry Jolliffe Son Age 12 b West Cowes Jane Jolliffe Dau Age 10 b West Cowes Louisa Jolliffe Dau Age 9 West Cowes

Strays in Southampton 1871 PART ONE John SCORE Age 40 Widow . Biscuit and Bread Maker b IOW George MASTER (?) Age 54 Lodger Stone Mason b Godshill Alfred LOCKE H Age 36 Coppersmith b Freshwater Maria LOCKE Wife Age 29 b London Wm LOCKE Son Age 10 b Southampton Emily LOCKE Dau Age 7 b " Fred LOCKE Son Age 10 m b " George SIBLEY Age 58 Engine Fitter b Newport Ann SIBLEY Wife Age 50 b Newport William CHAMBERS Age 48 Wood Sawyer b Godshill ( wife and 3 kids ) Emily GORE Age 12 Servant b Newport Elvia KENT Age 38 Dau Confectioner b Bembridge William STEEL Un Age 25 Ships Carpenter b Cowes Sarah PEAKHAM Un Age 22 Plate Polisher b Yarmouth Elizabeth Mary BARNES Niece Age 15 b Cowes Lancelot Coulthard Age 25 Brother ( head of home Emma Slade not b IOW ) Labourer b Cowes Louisa BARNES Age 14 b Cowes James TAYLOR Age 51 Shipwright b West Cowes Jane TAYLOR Wife Age 51 b Portsmouth Henry BRICKETT Widow Age 36 Labourer b Newport ( 4 kids ) Jane WARREN Widow Mother Age 48 East Cowes Fred BARTON Lodger Age 24 Un Labourer b Arreton George DORE Age 36 Hammersmith b Newport ( wife Mary and 5 kids not b IOW ) Emily OSMOND Neice Age 23 Bonnet Maker b Cowes

PART TWO Sarah MEW Servant Un Age 18 Nurse b Newport Arthur G LEAL Lodger Un Age 28 Labourer b Newport James TAYLOR H Age 30 Brewere Lab b Newport Sarah TAYLOR Wife Age 37 b Chillerton James TAYLOR Son Age 16 Shipping Office Clerk b Sandown Fred TAYLOR Son Age 14 b Newport George TAYLOR Son Age 12 b Portsmouth James DYER Head Age 38 Brewers Lab b Newport Kate DYER Wife Age 37 b West Indies Jane CH... Sister Widow age 63 Cook b Newport Ann OWEN H Widow Age 38 Annuitant b Brixton Clara OWN Dau AGe 10 b SOuthsea Mary ann OWEN Dau Age 7 b SHorwell Agnes OWEN Dau Age 5 b SHorwell John OWEN Son Age 2 b Hants William KNAPP Head Age 54 Baker b East Cowes ( and family b Portsmouth ) Joseph George WHITECOMB Age 49 Pawnbroker b Newport Jane WHITECOMB Wife Age 50 b Newport William EDMONTS Boarder Age 43 Army Pensioner b Shorwell James BUNCE Age 61 Fisherman b Cowes Hattie BUNCE Wife Age 53 b Cowes Ann ROBINSON Age 50 / 80 ( can't read ) Lodger Widow b Ryde William ELLIOT Age 51 Marine Pensioner b Newport Henry HOLMES Age 42 Chelsea Pensioner b IOW George DAISH or BASH AGe 42 Beer Retailer b Newport Isabella DAISH or BASH Age 33 Wife b Newport James WEBB Age 31 Mariner b ST Helens Clara WEBB Age 26 wife b Portsmouth