Hi Angela, That's what it sounds like to me. But New England, USA, we also have a tool called a 'grub hoe.' It is useful for starting to dig in rocky ground and/or where there are a lot of roots that you want out of the way. It is not a 'finish' tool, but sure comes in handy in the rocky, rooty soil we tend to have here. Nancy Angela McMurtry wrote: > Todays Brain Teaser > > 'GRUBBING UNDERWOOD' > > Was the head of the home on his hands and knees looking for grubs :-) > > Angela

Hi Listers, I wondered if any one on this board is related to the McNamara`s who live on the isle. Regards Martin Brace Owner of CHIVINGTON surname board @rootsweb.com other names: BERTRAND--BETHNAL GREEN, LONDON & FRANCE. BRACE--BRISTOL, HEREFORD & LONDON. COLLINS--BETHNAL GREEN. CHANNELL--EWELL, EPSOM, ANYWHERE. CHIVINGTON--EWELL, SURREY, LONDON, STOW, ANYWHERE. FOX--LONDON. MCNAMARA--LONDON, I.O.W. READING--OTFORD SEVENOAKS. SUMMERS--BERMONDSEY, BELLINGHAM, LONDON. STRANGEWAY--LONDON. http://groups.msn.com/RootTracing

Hi Listers, A big thank you to all who replied to my call of help with occupation house breaker. There are 2 outcomes. 1. could be a misspelling for horse breaker. 2. or a demolition man Thank you again and Happy Hunting all Regards Martin Brace Owner of CHIVINGTON surname board @rootsweb.com other names: BERTRAND--BETHNAL GREEN, LONDON & FRANCE. BRACE--BRISTOL, HEREFORD & LONDON. COLLINS--BETHNAL GREEN. CHANNELL--EWELL, EPSOM, ANYWHERE. CHIVINGTON--EWELL, SURREY, LONDON, STOW, ANYWHERE. FOX--LONDON. MCNAMARA--LONDON, I.O.W. READING--OTFORD SEVENOAKS. SUMMERS--BERMONDSEY, BELLINGHAM, LONDON. STRANGEWAY--LONDON. http://groups.msn.com/RootTracing

Don't forget the clocks go FORWARD one hour tonight folks!! Means we lose an hours sleep but who cares!!! Chris and Caroline --- All of our outgoing mail is checked and certified Virus Free by regularl updates Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.627 / Virus Database: 402 - Release Date: 16/03/2004

This was for getting rid of weeds and brambles Angela. The worker would use a tool called a grubber and this would dig into the ground and pull the plant and the root up. Chris -----Original Message----- From: Angela McMurtry [mailto:palmtreeqld@optusnet.com.au] Sent: 27 March 2004 02:33 To: ISLE-OF-WIGHT-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [IoW] Another Occupation Question Todays Brain Teaser 'GRUBBING UNDERWOOD' Was the head of the home on his hands and knees looking for grubs :-) Angela --- Incoming mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.627 / Virus Database: 402 - Release Date: 16/03/2004 --- All of our outgoing mail is checked and certified Virus Free by regularl updates Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.627 / Virus Database: 402 - Release Date: 16/03/2004

Hi Listers, I have just got some copies of Baptism`s in Ewell Surrey from 1846-1855 Here are the surnames: EDWARDS,MARTIN,GOODWRIGHT,SANDERS,COOK,OLIVER,HILLS,REEVES,JEFFERY,MARTIN,STAN NING, RHODES & CARTER. If interested go to _http://groups.msn.com/RootTracing_ (http://groups.msn.com/RootTracing) and see pictures. Regards Martin Brace Owner of CHIVINGTON surname board @rootsweb.com other names: BERTRAND--BETHNAL GREEN, LONDON & FRANCE. BRACE--BRISTOL, HEREFORD & LONDON. COLLINS--BETHNAL GREEN. CHANNELL--EWELL, EPSOM, ANYWHERE. CHIVINGTON--EWELL, SURREY, LONDON, STOW, ANYWHERE. FOX--LONDON. MCNAMARA--LONDON, I.O.W. READING--OTFORD SEVENOAKS. SUMMERS--BERMONDSEY, BELLINGHAM, LONDON. STRANGEWAY--LONDON. http://groups.msn.com/RootTracing

Martin Could it possibly be a horse breaker, rather than house breaker? Its often easy to confuse r for u, I too had what looked initially like a house breaker in my family until I realised that he worked with horses. Jon Baker -----Original Message----- From: Tinbra1@aol.com [mailto:Tinbra1@aol.com] Sent: 26 March 2004 00:40 To: ISLE-OF-WIGHT-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [IoW] Occupation - House breaker Hi Listers, I wondered if anyone could help me with this occupation. One a birth certificate father was a house breaker. I know that in this age this is a burglar but what was it in 1881. Any help will be appreciated Regards Martin Brace Owner of CHIVINGTON surname board @rootsweb.com other names: BERTRAND--BETHNAL GREEN, LONDON & FRANCE. BRACE--BRISTOL, HEREFORD & LONDON. COLLINS--BETHNAL GREEN. CHANNELL--EWELL, EPSOM, ANYWHERE. CHIVINGTON--EWELL, SURREY, LONDON, STOW, ANYWHERE. FOX--LONDON. MCNAMARA--LONDON, I.O.W. READING--OTFORD SEVENOAKS. SUMMERS--BERMONDSEY, BELLINGHAM, LONDON. STRANGEWAY--LONDON. Owner of RootTracing@uk.msnusers.com ______________________________

Todays Brain Teaser 'GRUBBING UNDERWOOD' Was the head of the home on his hands and knees looking for grubs :-) Angela

Hi this site although not on old occupation names may go some way to explain the job title. http://www.hardwick-cambs.org.uk/history/hdwkwood.htm Lynne B ----- Original Message ----- From: "John" <john.ships@sasktel.net> To: <ISLE-OF-WIGHT-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, March 27, 2004 8:57 AM Subject: [IoW] Re: grub-bing under-wood > Hi Angeia > > grub-bing // grubbed // to dig or poke in the ground, > to grub for roots // to search or work laboriously, > // to dig up or out // to discover by laborious search. > > under-wood // under-growth // shrubs saplings > etc growing on the forest floor. > > John > > > Angela McMurtry wrote: > > >Todays Brain Teaser > > > >'GRUBBING UNDERWOOD' > > > >Was the head of the home on his hands and knees looking for grubs :-) > > > >Angela > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

Thanks to the several dozen who sent me emails re my question . I have trawled through numerous census over the years and never come across an UNCHART MARINER . I came across it at least 8 times in a couple of different districts in Hampshire ... I think it was probably someone without a ticket. Thanks for the debate ! Angela

Hi Angeia grub-bing // grubbed // to dig or poke in the ground, to grub for roots // to search or work laboriously, // to dig up or out // to discover by laborious search. under-wood // under-growth // shrubs saplings etc growing on the forest floor. John Angela McMurtry wrote: >Todays Brain Teaser > >'GRUBBING UNDERWOOD' > >Was the head of the home on his hands and knees looking for grubs :-) > >Angela > > > > > >

My Great Great Grandfather JOHN PHILBRICK (Fillbrook and other variations way back) was shown on his childrens birth records as "Porter". Is it possible for anyone to tell me what sort of Porters worked in the Ryde area in 1830/45 period. Would it be in the docks, railways, hotel, homes or business areas ? I am still trying to establish if he was born in the Isle-of-Wight or Essex or ??? Also could anyone be able to check the 1841 census again for me in St. Helens please, and is there one for 1831. Many thanks in advance, Daphne Forder, Adelaide, Australia.

The correct definition for house breaker is one who pulls down houses between sunrise and sunset! So your man must have been a fast worker!! Chris and Caroline -----Original Message----- From: Tinbra1@aol.com [mailto:Tinbra1@aol.com] Sent: 26 March 2004 00:40 To: ISLE-OF-WIGHT-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [IoW] Occupation - House breaker Hi Listers, I wondered if anyone could help me with this occupation. One a birth certificate father was a house breaker. I know that in this age this is a burglar but what was it in 1881. Any help will be appreciated Regards Martin Brace Owner of CHIVINGTON surname board @rootsweb.com other names: BERTRAND--BETHNAL GREEN, LONDON & FRANCE. BRACE--BRISTOL, HEREFORD & LONDON. COLLINS--BETHNAL GREEN. CHANNELL--EWELL, EPSOM, ANYWHERE. CHIVINGTON--EWELL, SURREY, LONDON, STOW, ANYWHERE. FOX--LONDON. MCNAMARA--LONDON, I.O.W. READING--OTFORD SEVENOAKS. SUMMERS--BERMONDSEY, BELLINGHAM, LONDON. STRANGEWAY--LONDON. Owner of RootTracing@uk.msnusers.com --- Incoming mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.627 / Virus Database: 402 - Release Date: 16/03/2004 --- All of our outgoing mail is checked and certified Virus Free by regularl updates Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.627 / Virus Database: 402 - Release Date: 16/03/2004

Hi everyone Is there AKS who has access to the 1871 census for the I O W I am looking for Ellen HANSFORD and any other members of her family. In the 1881 census she was a 17 year Domestic Servant born in Ryde I O W May thank you in advance. Regards Peter Wallace

Angela I have to agree with Di Harding's suggestion. This is I am sure going to be Merchant Mariner. It is often difficult to distinguish between the capital letters M, N and U. Lower case n and r are frequently badly formed and can easily be confused too. Even without the Un at the beginning (which I think is just a poorly written Mer), I think you have a word that definitely ends 'chant'. In all my years of maritime records and running the Mariners mailing list, I haven't ever seen another word that I think that might be, but I have seen an awful lot of shocking handwriting <g>. If it would help, you could either email me a scan of the document off list obviously, or send me a photocopy by snailmail and I'll have a look? Debbie Beavis (currently in Australia) > -----Original Message----- > From: Angela McMurtry [mailto:palmtreeqld@optusnet.com.au] > Sent: Friday, March 26, 2004 6:28 AM > To: ISLE-OF-WIGHT-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: [IoW] Unchart Mariner > > > > Mariner - yes . > > Unchart ??? > > Any ideas? > > Angela > > > >

Hi list members Received two emails from Beth of the British Home Children Mail List regarding the above. I checked the Canadian Archives for Canadian Expeditionary Forces and a Samuel George Corney was. there. His nex of kin was Charles Corney, father-address in 1917 was Ryde, 27 Alfred St. England. He is also a British Home Child, being originally sent to Canada through the Barnardo Homes. A relative could check at Barnardos by emailing Karen Fletcher, AfterCare Officer at karen.fletcher@barnardos.org.uk Home Children -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- CORNEY , Samuel G Age: 12 Sex: M Year of arrival: 1910 Microfilm reel: T-4767 Ship: SS Sicilian Port of departure: Liverpool Departure Date: 28 May 1910 Port of arrival: Quebec Arrival Date: 10 Jun 1910 Party: Dr Barnardo's Destination: Toronto, Ont Comments: See also T-5531 & C-4716 Other CORNEY British Home Children shown at the British Home Children records at the National Archives of Canada. Home Children Search terms : " : 2=1 : 1=CORNEY.SUR. : " References: 1 - 3 of 3 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Surname Given name Age Sex Ship Year of arrival ------------------------------------------------------------------------ 1 CORNEY Doris M 15 F SS Carthaginian 1914 2 CORNEY Ed 20 M SS Polynesian 1888 = = = = = = = = = = = "Hi list, particularly Patricia Corney - While searching e-bay Canada I have come across Barnardo Good Conduct medals and various WW1/WW11 medals assigned to Samuel G Corney. A check on BHC database did not find him but I found him on the NAC Home Children database arriving at Quebec from Liverpool on the SS Sicilian 1910 aged 12. Have sent his details to the database. The medals are in a large lot, mostly assigned to Samuel Corney. They are on sale for over $300 Canadian. Hope this is of interest, Beth," Hiscobeth@aol.com = = = = = = = = = = = = Pat Corney, BHCD Quakertown, PA US BLUROC1@worldnet.att.net = = = = = = = = = = = = = Incoming/outgoing mail scanned by Norton 2004 = = = = = = = = = = = = = =

Hi everyone Maybe UNCHART means he does not yet have his ticket/ certificate or whatever it is that's needed to be a full Chartered mariner. He may have completed only some levels of his profession which allows him to work in certaina reas. Just a thought. Regards Ann Spiro explorer@smartchat.net.au Perth, Western Australia All outgoing and incoming mail is checked by Norton Anti-Virus updated daily ----- Original Message ----- From: " Angela McMurtry" <palmtreeqld@optusnet.com.au> To: <ISLE-OF-WIGHT-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, March 26, 2004 3:57 AM Subject: [IoW] Unchart Mariner > > Mariner - yes . > > Unchart ??? > > Any ideas? > > Angela > > >

Hello, I have just returned from the Island armed with some certs purchased from the CRO. These show that my GG grandmother was Elizabeth Ann CHESSELL born Cowes 1846 and that her parents were Joseph and Jane CHESSELL nee MOREY. Elizabeth married Daniel FRENCH from Sussex. If anyone has any info on these families I would love to hear from you. Best wishes Terri

Mariner - yes . Unchart ??? Any ideas? Angela

Hi Listers, I wondered if anyone could help me with this occupation. One a birth certificate father was a house breaker. I know that in this age this is a burglar but what was it in 1881. Any help will be appreciated Regards Martin Brace Owner of CHIVINGTON surname board @rootsweb.com other names: BERTRAND--BETHNAL GREEN, LONDON & FRANCE. BRACE--BRISTOL, HEREFORD & LONDON. COLLINS--BETHNAL GREEN. CHANNELL--EWELL, EPSOM, ANYWHERE. CHIVINGTON--EWELL, SURREY, LONDON, STOW, ANYWHERE. FOX--LONDON. MCNAMARA--LONDON, I.O.W. READING--OTFORD SEVENOAKS. SUMMERS--BERMONDSEY, BELLINGHAM, LONDON. STRANGEWAY--LONDON. Owner of RootTracing@uk.msnusers.com