Hi Michele.I have a Small bit of Information for you will send it off List. Lesley :) YESTERDAY IS HISTORY, TOMORROW A MYSTERY, TODAY IS A GIFT, THAT'S WHY ITS CALLED THE PRESENT. -----Original Message----- From: angel hello fellow hunters... I'm in need of some help if some kind person could do so. I have a --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.684 / Virus Database: 446 - Release Date: 13/05/2004

Dear Friends and Cousnins, Have found a great website for searching the "Times" newspaper, which has been fully indexed! http://infotrac.galegroup.com/itweb/free4_tda Type "Trial" when asked for a password. Don't forget to tick the box which says "in entire article content" David in Ballarat

hello fellow hunters... I'm in need of some help if some kind person could do so. I have a wedding cert for a family member and now I'm stuck trying to find out anything of her husband. Her name is Amy WARDER and she married Albert Charles BEDOURA in 1899 at Northwood... now i worked out from his age at the marriage that he should have been born about 1871 but can i find him or his father (Adolphus BEDOURA) or any mentin of any Bedoura at the Island RO? no... so i tried the st catherines index at the library and no luck. am i missing something? what am I doing wrong? is there some kind person with more experience than me, who has a cd or other info could they see if they can find him or his father somewhere. the wedding cert has them living at Cowes his father was an agent but what kind i have no idea! Good luck and happy family hunting Many thanks in anticipation of any help! Michele -- Whatever you Wanadoo: http://www.wanadoo.co.uk/time/ This email has been checked for most known viruses - find out more at: http://www.wanadoo.co.uk/help/id/7098.htm

The 2004 exhibition at the Ventnor Heritage Museum, entitled "Focus on Niton", opens on Saturday 15 May until 30 October 2004. The exhibition will be officially opened by the Island MP, Andrew Turner. The district comprises Upper Niton which includes the village, and Lower Niton, a very different place of large country houses and quiet coves set on a dramatic coastline, today delightfully peaceful, but in the past the haunt of smugglers. With old photographs, postcards, personal memories, auction catalogues, and extracts from newspapers and guidebooks we have tried to capture the atmosphere of times past in this unique landscape. A separate display, "Along the High Street", re-kindles memories of a time when dozens of small shops attended to our every need in Ventnor. Old advertisements, artistic bill-heads and photographs of busy shopping streets contribute to the presentation. Another new display is "Then and Now" - 19 aspects of Ventnor have been chosen for you to compare. Everything changes, sometimes almost unnoticed, other times major developments alter a locality considerably. Last year's exhibition, "From Cottage Door to Castle Gate", continues and draws on the Museum's collection of auction catalogues and photographs for various properties in the Ventnor area (which includes Bonchurch, Chale, Godshill, Luccombe, Niton, St Lawrence, Whitwell and Wroxall). Everything from a pair of cottages and a shop which cost £150 in 1919 to the imposing country houses of Bonchurch and the Undercliff. There is a seperate display on Steephill Castle. Ventnor Heritage Museum is a registered Museum (no 1166) and a registered Charity (no 286848) and is run entirely by the Ventnor and District Local History Society and staffed by volunteers. This year's exhibition has been sponsored by Mrs Phyl Chaundy, a recent Niton resident and Museum supporter. The Museum has an archive section with many hundreds of items referring to Ventnor and the surrounding area. We also produce over 30 publications on the history of Ventnor and it's environs and a video "Ventnor - No Finer Place". The Museum building itself was built in 1905 as Sharpe's furniture shop which continued until the 1970s when it became a car showroom. The Ventnor and District Local History Society was founded in 1980 and bought the premises in 1987. If you have any connections to Ventnor and district please come and visit us! Ventnor Heritage Museum 11 Spring Hill Ventnor Isle of Wight PO38 1PE Telephone: 01983 855407 Times of opening until 30th October 2004: Mon 10am-12.30pm Tues 10am-12.30pm, 2pm-4.30 Weds 10am-12.30pm Thurs 10am-12.30pm, 2pm-4.30 Fri 10am-12.30pm, 2pm-4.30 Sat 10am-12.30pm Sun closed During the winter months, when the exhibition itself is closed, we are still open for enquiries on Saturday mornings. We can be contacted by post at the address above, or by e-mail (ventnorheritage@aol.com). Please do not expect an immediate response as there is not someone in the office every day. I look forward to seeing some of your names in our visitors' book! Janet Griffin Trustee

Try Dave Parkers website ISLE OF WIGHT NOSTALGIA http://www.invectis.co.uk/iow/ There is a basic history of the town on our website, see signature below Chris and Caroline SOUTHERN LIFE(UK) The History of the villages of Hampshire and its surrounding counties http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~villages -----Original Message----- From: JohnVHarding@aol.com [mailto:JohnVHarding@aol.com] Sent: 12 May 2004 20:28 To: ISLE-OF-WIGHT-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [IoW] Photo Archive Could someone please tell me where on the Isle of Wight I might go to view an IOW photographic archive? I am looking for "old" photographs of Newport. John of Kent "One must walk a long time behind a wild duck before one picks up an ostrich feather" --- Incoming mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.680 / Virus Database: 442 - Release Date: 09/05/2004 --- All of our outgoing mail is checked and certified Virus Free by regularl updates Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.680 / Virus Database: 442 - Release Date: 09/05/2004

Could someone please tell me where on the Isle of Wight I might go to view an IOW photographic archive? I am looking for "old" photographs of Newport. John of Kent "One must walk a long time behind a wild duck before one picks up an ostrich feather"

Hi Mary Lou, Just sending this reply via the list. I've tried three times to your own email address .....I got a message twice that the original "was not delivered within 1 day, host aol.com is not responding", then "was not delivered within 1 day, host toq12.bellnexxia.net is not responding". Let me know how to contact you off list if we have a connection. Janet ----- Original Message ----- From: Janet Bush To: Mlou1173@aol.com Sent: Thursday, May 06, 2004 2:38 PM Subject: Re: [IoW] Posting surname interests - URRY, BUTLER & others Hello Mary Lou, Thanks for responding to my IOW posting. Yes, Henry and Kate URRY in Hamilton, Ontario were my gr.grandparents and their daughter Maude was my grandmother. I had that Census information but can find no trace of Henry after that. Re: WHITTINGTON, I don't even have a forename. He was listed as the father of Mary FALLICK who was chr. 6 Mar 1757 at Godshill, IOW , "natural daughter of Ann PHALLICK/FALLICK by WHITTINGTON". Natural apparently meant out of wedlock. Re: HOBBS, I have Mary married 14 Dec 1756 at Godshill, IOW to James FALLICK who was chr. 27 Apr 1722 at Godshill. No other info on Mary. Any connections here? Regards, Janet ----- Original Message ----- From: Mlou1173@aol.com To: j.bush@sympatico.ca Sent: Thursday, May 06, 2004 12:45 AM Subject: Re: [IoW] Posting surname interests - URRY, BUTLER & others Hi Janet......the 1881 English and Canadian census is on line as is the 1880 American census. They can be searched at www.familysearch.org I took a look in all of them for your Henry Urry born 1838 +/- five years. There was one in Canada and one on the Isle of Wight....none in the U.S.: Ward 5, Hamilton, Wentworth, Ontario Henry Urry Head English Banker Presbyterian Age 42 Born: England Kate Urry Wife Italian Presbyterian Age 35 Born: Ireland Maud Urry Daughter English Presbyterian Age 13 Going to School Born: Ontario Harry Urry Son English Presbyterian Age 10 Going to School Born: Ontario Can you tell me more about your WHITTINGTON and HOBBS, please. I have a couple of URRYs marrying into my WHITTINGTON line and a JANE HOBBS marrying into my ABBOTT line. Best wishes.....mary lou sun valley, id usa

I can't talk for England but in Scotland I have come across children as early as 1860's listed as Adopted. One family had 4 adopted children they were in the census with their birth surnames , married with their adopted names and died as either . Found another one yesterday : Marriage 1919 ' Ann Stewart adopted the name Bankier since child hood' blah blah blah . In 1891 Census she was aged one year old living with a Bankier family . Maybe her parents were good friends with this particular Bankier family they certainly weren't related . It does make research confusing though , especially the family I found with 4 adopted children in 1861 . You don't say when these adoptions might have taken place but my advice is buy ALL the certificates . Angela Down Under

My gggg gfather John HARBERT chris. St. Helens 1768 and buried St. Helens 7th December 180l. Death by drowning 29th November 1801. Can anyone advise me as to where to look for further information regarding his death.Three other people drowned with him James Stallard, Daniel Woodford and Robert Trebeck. Many thanks Pat Somerfield

Hi Peter, Having decided that my 3 Sarah Whittingtons are one and the same person with 3 different fathers ( Charles DOWNER, James WHITTINGTON and Isaac WHITTINGTON ) perhaps "adoption" was commonplace but it really makes family history research pretty difficult. best wishes Kathryn ----- Original Message ----- From: "Peter John WALLACE" <peter.wallace8@btopenworld.com> To: <ISLE-OF-WIGHT-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, May 11, 2004 7:00 PM Subject: ADOPTION > Hi List > > Has anybody have any idea when Adoption started in England. > I am trying to solve the riddle of some of my female relatives that are > registered at birth with one surname and married with a different surname > and not having the same father. > > Information would be much appreciated. > > Regards > > Peter > > ______________________________

Hello Peter, I believe that adoption proper started in 1927, however i have no more details than that Best wishes -Message: #5 Date: Tue, 11 May 2004 19:00:29 +0100 From: "Peter John WALLACE" <peter.wallace8@btopenworld.com> Has anybody have any idea when  Adoption started in England. I am trying to solve the riddle of some of my female relatives that are registered at birth with one surname and married with a different surname and not having the same father. Charles Flawn in Buckinghamshire, UK. Researching FLAWN and BEATTON in Bethnal Green/Mile End/Hackney, London UK.; PERRIN in London and Australia; and Vine in Isle of Wight,UK. Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.681 Virus file update: 07/05/2004

Legal adoption in England began in 1927. Alan McGowan Hampshire/IOW Family History Site http://website.lineone.net/~hantshistory ----- Original Message ----- From: "Peter John WALLACE" <peter.wallace8@btopenworld.com> To: <ISLE-OF-WIGHT-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, May 11, 2004 7:00 PM Subject: [IoW] ADOPTION Hi List Has anybody have any idea when Adoption started in England. I am trying to solve the riddle of some of my female relatives that are registered at birth with one surname and married with a different surname and not having the same father. Information would be much appreciated. Regards Peter

Hi List Has anybody have any idea when Adoption started in England. I am trying to solve the riddle of some of my female relatives that are registered at birth with one surname and married with a different surname and not having the same father. Information would be much appreciated. Regards Peter

Blimey that's a List first . Where is Patagonia ? Welcome to the List :-) Angela in Australia ( the other side of the planet )

Angela McMurtry < palmtreeqld@optusnet.com.au > wrote: > Blimey that's a List first . Where is Patagonia ? It is not necessarily a first. We currently have at least one other subscriber with an Argentinean e-mail address. > Welcome to the List :-) May I also bid Raine Golab welcome to Isle-of-Wight-L. > Angela in Australia ( the other side of the planet ) The other side from the Isle of Wight, but not from Patagonia :-) Cheers Elmo. -- --Keith Elmo ELDRIDGE Isle-of-Wight-Admin@rootsweb.com --Elmo@aphelia.co.uk --Buxworth, High Peak, Derbyshire, England. --Listowner Isle-of-Wight-L and Co-ordinator Isle of Wight GenWeb --http://www.rootsweb.com/~engiow/

Hi Angela! > Blimey that's a List first . Where is Patagonia ? It is the very south of South América, the "end of the world"... and it is beautiful! > Welcome to the List :-) Thanks a lot.... really! > Angela in Australia ( the other side of the planet ) I should have some lost living relatives in Australia, surnames Melville, Hammond, De Jong, Kirkegard and Johnston, possibly in Qld. and/or Brisbane. I could never find an e-mail of any of them. All descendants of a cousin of my mother, Rita Maxwell, from I.O.W. of course. I have a web site of my family, it is in Spanish meantime, but you will be able to understand the family trees. www.golab-read.com.ar Best wishes for all. Raine, in Patagonia

Hi.....can anyone tell me if there is a graveyard at St. Michael's, Shalfleet and, if so, if anyone has access to the MI's? I believe my 2xgrandparents are buried there: JOHN WHITTINGTON died August of 1887 MARIA WHITTINGTON died July of 1904 Thanks much......mary lou sun valley, id usa

Hi! I am descendant of Thomas Read born 1833 who lived at Cross Street I.O.W. married Mary Norris in 1855, at St, John's Carisbrooke (Banns). Mary was born in 1834. They'r children James, John, Sara Ann, Henry, William Jacob and David. William Jacob Read born in 1873 died maybe 1927. He married Rosina Ellen Winslow in Cowes 1895. Rosina was born 07/03/1874 and died in Cowes 08/02/1950. Their home was at Tintern Cottage, Back Road 182, Cowes. Their children are: William Thomas; Morris Harry; Leslie Nicholas (married to Lilian Riddet); Rita Marie (married to Ernest Arthur Watson 1918 and to Malcom Longbottom); Mabel Rita (married to William H. Maxwell 1926); Horatio David (married Marion E. Morris 1938); Ivan Alfred (married to Beatrice) ; Mathew Frederic (married to Dora); Norman Samuel; and Winified Glayds, the youngest, my mother, who was born 1917 in I.O.W. married to David Thomas 1937 and to my father, Zygmunt Golab. Me search is for living cousins they could be in Canada, South Africa, Australia, U.K. and. who knows. Any clue, raine@ciudad.com.ar. My name is Raine Golab, resident in south Patagonia. Best regards for all.

If anyone out there is researching the MATTHEWS name on the island, please get in touch! Jon Matthews Beaconsfield, Bucks, UK +44 1494 680650 (w) +44 7802 401365 (m)

Hello Janet I have Jane Urry, bapt Jun 1808 Brading, d/o David Urry & his second wife Ruth Holbrook. So Jane would have been Stephens younger sister. I too have the rest of the line as you do. If you'd like further info on Jane's marriage & children, maybe you'd like to e-mail me off list. Best wishes Debbie (Southampton UK) -------Original Message------- From: Janet Bush Date: 05/06/04 04:38:10 To: ISLE-OF-WIGHT-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [IoW] Posting surname interests - URRY, BUTLER & others Hello everyone, I have just subscribed to this list. Before I got the internet, I thought URRY was an uncommon name (just 31 listed on the Canada411 telephone directory website). How wrong I was ! My main interests are URRY and BUTLER and related families. URRY: Henry chr. 1838 Newport, his parents Stephen chr. 1798 Brading and Frances BUTLER chr. 1804 Yaverland Stephen's parents David (I think) b. 1763 Godshill and Jane MORGAN chr. 1764 Carisbrooke David' parents David chr. 1736 Godshill and Mary BARTON b. C1742 Godshill David's parents John b. 1700 Carisbrooke and Ann ?? John's parents William m. 27 Sep 1696 Northwood to Jane PANTRIDGE (dau. of John and Jone KITCH m. 9 Jan 1665) Also BARTON/SMITH/WIGHT, MORGAN/MOVNNTHY?/TOMKINS, MORRIS/KERVILL (KERWELL)/BLOW/COOKE BUTLER: Frances chr. 1804 Yaverland her parents John chr. 1770 Brading and Mary FALLICK chr. 1775 Godshill his parents Thomas chr. 1735 Chale and Mary SALTER buried 1823 Brading his parents Thomas d. 1749 Chale and Sarah buried 1762 Chale Also WHITTINGTON, BAKER, DORE, HOBBS One particular puzzle: my gr.grandfather Henry URRY (chr. 15 Jun 1838 Newport) emigrated to Canada before 1867. He married, had two children and later abandoned his family. He may have stayed in Canada, or gone to USA or returned to England. Any suggestions on how to find his death date and place? Regards, Janet Bush ( Ontario, Canada)