Pat do you have a CORNEY who maried a Sarah REED /READ ? Sarah Corney married John PITMAN in 1888 she was a widow at the time of her marriage to John. Angela

Found these . 1861 Census index Lanark Scotland Taken night 7th April By Des Garrity Index to the 1861 Census for ALL of LANARK . As well as Glasgow , Barony, and Govan it also includes the other 37 parishes that make up the County Of Lanark in 1861 . The Marine returns for all of Scotlandcare also included . MARINE RETURNS ALL B IOW Charles BRIGHT Age 37 Haney PAGE Age 46 Ben BRIGHT Age 55 Frank KELLAWAY Age 27 Jedey WARDER Age 24 James CHAMBERS Age 20 Andrew HEATH Age 21 William WHITE Age 29 Silias CUSS Age 29 James BUCKLEY Age 40 LANARK James TENNOCH Age 37 b IOW David MORRIS Age 44 b IOW GLASGOW James CHRISTIE Age 16 IOW Mary Jane ADAMSON Age 35 IOW John PENDERVILLE Age 31 IOW Fanny INAILLY Age 48 IOW Mary WOOD Age 22 IOW Blaney WHITE Age 45 IOW Mary Ann JOHNSTON Age 36 IOW To look up the full entries you would have to go to Mitchell Library in Glasgow however if anyone want's to know who was with any of the entries above I can look them up or if anyone has Scottish ancestors in Lanark around this time I'd be happy to look up any surnames in the Index. Angela

--=======3DDC7B34======= Content-Type: text/plain; x-avg-checked=avg-ok-555966A3; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit I think I'm being very stupid, but can't locate the Southport address to order BMD certificates online. I've done it before (i.e. before crash of computer), but have spent the last 20 minutes failing to find anything but the right thing. Is there anyone out there with time to send me the right address, please. I'd be very grateful (and could let my husband back on the computer - it's his turn!) Thanks, Liz PS on another matter. I had a Great-Uncle who we know served in the Royal Engineers, was in India after the First World War. Is there a site like this one which discusses such things? Have looked at Rootsweb, but again, failed to find what I wanted. The Royal Engineers site is clear that it can't help - he wasn't an Officer...... Thanks again, if anyone can help. Elizabeth Lane liz_lane@ntlworld.com --=======3DDC7B34======= Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; x-avg=cert; x-avg-checked=avg-ok-555966A3 Content-Disposition: inline --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.712 / Virus Database: 468 - Release Date: 6/27/04 --=======3DDC7B34=======--

I wish to thank Dave Peach, Janet Griffin and Sarah Pegg for their continuing help with the CORNEY, BOARD and BUSH Families. Along with Ann and others, these list members go out of their way to help Special thanks to Mary Lou for her help looking for family members. Pat = = = = = = = = = = = = Pat C., BHCD Quakertown, PA US BLUROC1@worldnet.att.net = = = = = = = = = = = = = Incoming/outgoing mail scanned by Norton 2004 = = = = = = = = = = = = = =

Dear Listers, I have seen on another list: In order to add to the service that we already provide to the genealogical community, FreeBMD has today made its scanned images of the GRO index (previously available only to transcribers) available to the general public. Prior to this move, viewing the indexes was only possible at libraries or on pay-per-view internet sites. Whilst FreeBMD doesn't yet have a complete set of images, the nearly 700,000 images that we do have represent a good proportion of the indexes from 1837 to 1910, and we hope that people will find the facility useful. The initial interface is somewhat crude, but further enhancements to this new area of the site are planned, and we will announce them as they happen." http://images.freebmd.org.uk/cgi/choose.pl Best wishes, Carol Lloyd nee SHIRLEY

Hi to you all have been preoccupied with collating all the info I gathered from my trip to the island back in April, from relatives & the records office. May I take this oppurtunity to thank Dave Peach, Jon Baker & Keir Foss for their help & any others that I havent mentioned. A BIG THANK YOU! This is another plea for help- would anyone have any info on the 1841 or 1851 census? Or advice/tips how to search beyond 1837? All suggestions would be gratefully recieved. I'm a bit stuck! In the short time I've been doing this I'm amazed at the time consumed & the amount of facts & figures I've gathered In anticipation Sue S --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.648 / Virus Database: 415 - Release Date: 3/31/04

Hi Everyone, Thanks for the 1000's of replies in my inbox LOL All were appreicated and when I get to the bottom of this little mystery I'll let you know Cheers Angela

Re the "son in law" issue - I've seem mentioned on other lists that this expression was sometimes used to mean a child that was adopted (in the days before the formal legal adoption system that we have now was created). So the child belonged to the parents "in law" rather than "by birth". A bit like illegitimate children being "natural"...even though in those pre-IVF days presumably all children were natural! David Wilkins -----Original Message----- From: DShepp5529@aol.com [mailto:DShepp5529@aol.com] Sent: 26 June 2004 15:33 To: ISLE-OF-WIGHT-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: ISLE-OF-WIGHT-D Digest V04 #130 In a message dated 6/25/2004 9:01:04 PM Pacific Daylight Time, ISLE-OF-WIGHT-D-request@rootsweb.com writes: Thanks to those who replied off list re bap . General opinion favoured son in law as meaning step son . Can't see how myself .. the exact entry reads ' This day James Breton son in law to John Archibald and his spouse Marion Archibald had a son bap named David' I know mothers were sometimes left off bap details this isn't a problem . I am just wondering if perhaps the Minister put down the in laws in lieu of the mother not being documented ? If I am missing something I'd appreciate someone enlightening me Angela

Angela Don and John provide plausible explanations, but I can't help wondering why the minister felt the need to show who the Grandfather of David Breton was. I don't recall seeing too many baptism entries where wither of the Grandparents of the child being baptised were mentioned. Most entries would simply state that David was the son of James Breton and Marion, if Marion were indeed James' spouse. Angela, please put us out of our misery and give us some more clues. When and where is this baptism recorded (it does not seem to be on the IGI)? Are there any other references in the registers, especially burials and marriages to the Bretons or the Archibalds. Perhaps the Archibalds were prominent persons in the parish, hence the reference to the Grandfather. Jon Baker -----Original Message----- From: DShepp5529@aol.com [mailto:DShepp5529@aol.com] Sent: 26 June 2004 15:33 To: ISLE-OF-WIGHT-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: ISLE-OF-WIGHT-D Digest V04 #130 In a message dated 6/25/2004 9:01:04 PM Pacific Daylight Time, ISLE-OF-WIGHT-D-request@rootsweb.com writes: Thanks to those who replied off list re bap . General opinion favoured son in law as meaning step son . Can't see how myself .. the exact entry reads ' This day James Breton son in law to John Archibald and his spouse Marion Archibald had a son bap named David' I know mothers were sometimes left off bap details this isn't a problem . I am just wondering if perhaps the Minister put down the in laws in lieu of the mother not being documented ? If I am missing something I'd appreciate someone enlightening me Angela I read the entry as David being the son of James Breton and Marion Archibald. John Archibald is Marion Archibald's father and therefore James Breton's father-in-law. Am I missing something? Don SHEPPARD, Euclid, Ohio USA ______________________________

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hi everyone, i am trying to find out if any of the following properties are still standing,they are houses once occupied by my ancestors on the island and i was wondering if any islanders on their travels could keep an eye out for them?. no. 1 & 2 Norfolk villas Adelaide grove Whippingham East Cowes,no.3 middle st south stoneham,51 pelham rd East Cowes,Sea grove boat house St Helens,44 St Johns rd Ryde,point coastgaurd buildings Bembridge,Coastgaurd station Shanklin, thanks pete. -- Whatever you Wanadoo: http://www.wanadoo.co.uk/time/ This email has been checked for most known viruses - find out more at: http://www.wanadoo.co.uk/help/id/7098.htm

Hi Angela My initial reaction was that this meant step-son, frequently referred to as son-in-law in census/parish registers. But on re-reading your transcript, I suspect the explanation in this case is that James Breton was indeed the husband of John & Marion Archibald's daughter, who had probably died since the child was born (probably during child birth), hence she was not named in the parish register entry. Possibly James Breton was not local to the parish and so the Vicar/Rector felt the need to explain who he was and why the baptism was taking place in his church. If I wanted to follow this up I would be looking for 2 things: (1) a marriage record for James Breton and "unknown" Archibald (i.e. the daughter of John & Marion) and (2) a burial record for "unknown" Breton, shortly before the baptism. It wouldn't surprise me if you found no further mention of James Breton in the parish, and that David Breton, if he survived infancy, was left with his grandparents and took the name Archibald through his life. Hope this helps. Jon Baker -----Original Message----- From: Angela McMurtry [mailto:palmtreeqld@optusnet.com.au] Sent: 25 June 2004 05:04 To: ISLE-OF-WIGHT-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Bap Question Thanks to those who replied off list re bap . General opinion favoured son in law as meaning step son . Can't see how myself .. the exact entry reads ' This day James Breton son in law to John Archibald and his spouse Marion Archibald had a son bap named David' I know mothers were sometimes left off bap details this isn't a problem . I am just wondering if perhaps the Minister put down the in laws in lieu of the mother not being documented ? If I am missing something I'd appreciate someone enlightening me Angela ______________________________

I have been off line for a couple of months and I now have a new e.mail address hall.tansom@netbreeze.co.uk Researching the following names. Tansom, Tanson, Tansome, Transom. Any. also names connected with Tansom Wilkins ....IOW Welch.... Portsmouth Richards.... IOW Springue.... Hampshire Glasspool..... Hampshire Parker .... Hampshire Monk..... Hampshire. Bambury ... Hampshire Stevinson......Hampshire Livesay.....IOW Longhurst .....Brighton, Portsmouth Yates ..... Eliza born about 1848 Would like to hear from anyone interested in these names. Thanks Cynthia Hall

In a message dated 6/25/2004 9:01:04 PM Pacific Daylight Time, ISLE-OF-WIGHT-D-request@rootsweb.com writes: Thanks to those who replied off list re bap . General opinion favoured son in law as meaning step son . Can't see how myself .. the exact entry reads ' This day James Breton son in law to John Archibald and his spouse Marion Archibald had a son bap named David' I know mothers were sometimes left off bap details this isn't a problem . I am just wondering if perhaps the Minister put down the in laws in lieu of the mother not being documented ? If I am missing something I'd appreciate someone enlightening me Angela I read the entry as David being the son of James Breton and Marion Archibald. John Archibald is Marion Archibald's father and therefore James Breton's father-in-law. Am I missing something? Don SHEPPARD, Euclid, Ohio USA

I thick that we can say that James Breton is the son in law to John Archibald and that James Breton is the Father of David but can we say that Marion Archibald is the spouse of John Archibald or is she his Daughter and the certificate simply reads This day James Breton and his spouse Marion Archibald had a son bap named David. Yours John Chris & Caroline wrote: >Can't see that either Angela as a son-in-law is the husband of your >daughter whereas a step-son is the son of the partner which you have >married. >When I first saw this subject Bap it didn't register and thought of the >soft rolls we have over here!!!! LOL >Chris > > >-----Original Message----- >From: Angela McMurtry [mailto:palmtreeqld@optusnet.com.au] >Sent: 25 June 2004 05:04 >To: ISLE-OF-WIGHT-L@rootsweb.com >Subject: [IoW] Bap Question > > >Thanks to those who replied off list re bap . General opinion favoured >son >in law as meaning step son . >Can't see how myself .. the exact entry reads > >' This day James Breton son in law to John Archibald and his spouse >Marion >Archibald had a son bap named David' > >I know mothers were sometimes left off bap details this isn't a problem >. I >am just wondering if perhaps the Minister put down the in laws in lieu >of >the mother not being documented ? If I am missing something I'd >appreciate >someone enlightening me > >Angela > >--- >All of our outgoing mail is checked and certified Virus Free by regularl >updates >Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). >Version: 6.0.707 / Virus Database: 463 - Release Date: 15/06/2004 > > > > >

Can't see that either Angela as a son-in-law is the husband of your daughter whereas a step-son is the son of the partner which you have married. When I first saw this subject Bap it didn't register and thought of the soft rolls we have over here!!!! LOL Chris -----Original Message----- From: Angela McMurtry [mailto:palmtreeqld@optusnet.com.au] Sent: 25 June 2004 05:04 To: ISLE-OF-WIGHT-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [IoW] Bap Question Thanks to those who replied off list re bap . General opinion favoured son in law as meaning step son . Can't see how myself .. the exact entry reads ' This day James Breton son in law to John Archibald and his spouse Marion Archibald had a son bap named David' I know mothers were sometimes left off bap details this isn't a problem . I am just wondering if perhaps the Minister put down the in laws in lieu of the mother not being documented ? If I am missing something I'd appreciate someone enlightening me Angela --- All of our outgoing mail is checked and certified Virus Free by regularl updates Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.707 / Virus Database: 463 - Release Date: 15/06/2004

Thanks to those who replied off list re bap . General opinion favoured son in law as meaning step son . Can't see how myself .. the exact entry reads ' This day James Breton son in law to John Archibald and his spouse Marion Archibald had a son bap named David' I know mothers were sometimes left off bap details this isn't a problem . I am just wondering if perhaps the Minister put down the in laws in lieu of the mother not being documented ? If I am missing something I'd appreciate someone enlightening me Angela

Hi all, If anyone is responding to Larry's request can I also ask for assistance with the cemetery at Freshwater too please. Lis Warwood, Adelaide, South Australia -----Original Message----- From: raghisco@tusco.net [mailto:raghisco@tusco.net] Sent: Friday, 25 June 2004 4:32 AM To: ISLE-OF-WIGHT-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [IoW] Cemetery at Freshwater Does anyone on the list live close to the cemetery at Freshwater that can check out a tombstone for me? Larry Bosler, Sugarcreek, Ohio

Hi everyone, All this talk about Havenstreet and Ashey are like ancient history to me. You see, tho' I was born in Ryde my parents and siblings were living in the Ashey Station House. I have no idea why as Dad was a farm worker and had no involvement with the railways at all. In 1987 we took him and Mum back there, knowing it would be the last time we would see either of them alive and Dad told us he had his picture in the IoW County Press ploughing up the Ashey Racecourse in Britain's dig for victory campaign. He was in a reserved occupation and never went to war. From Ashey we moved to Havenstreet and it was there that my first memories of very early childhood started. I was even able to drive the rental car right up to the house we lived in more than fifty years earlier. One day, if my ship ever comes in, I would like to return to the Island. Please don't let it change too drastically. Derek, on the Island of Efate. Once an Islander always an Islander.

Hi everyone, i am pete and new to this list, i am looking for any information on the SPILMAN family on the island from 1835ish onwards if you have a link or some info i would be grateful.(am related to all) thanks,pete. -- Whatever you Wanadoo: http://www.wanadoo.co.uk/time/ This email has been checked for most known viruses - find out more at: http://www.wanadoo.co.uk/help/id/7098.htm