In a message dated 7/31/2004 12:43:39 PM Pacific Standard Time, sandymento@earthlink.net writes: ALL the Dores in IOW as early as 1500-1700's Sandy, I have a mystious Suzanna DORR married to William MATTHEWS as his second wife on 21 Apr 1761 at Brading. I have been attempting to find her family for quite some time without any success. I would love to hear from anyone else who might have a connection to Suzanna DORR. Thank you, Karen Struve Spokane, Spokane County, Washington

Apologies for being off topic but could Patricia Corney please e-mail us off list about a possible connection. Thanks Linda & Tony

Hello all we have an Alice DORE in the 1720's,parents Henry & Mary. Alice married into one of our TAYLOR lines. Linda & Tony

Dear Evelyn, My 2C4R, Jane DORE, for whom I have scant details only, is the daughter of David DORE and Kezia DALLIMORE (her parents, Thomas DALIMER and Hannah ROGERS)and sister of Mary DORE. David and Kezia were married 24.6.1794 and both had died by 1823. There is a possibility that it was this Mary DORE who gave birth to an 'illegitimate' daughter, Eliza. Eliza married John HOBBS in 1836 - Andrea Cox has all the details! My husband and I actually found David Dore's gravestone in the Whippingham Churchyard - the only grave we found that has any connection to my family! With best wishes, Helen Martin (Dallimore) Melbourne, Australia.

Yes Ray, There seems to be, I've not been able to get on to it either. Jeanne >From: "Raymondo Sturgess" <raymondo.sturgess@virgin.net> >>Hi List is there a problem with The Isle of Wight Family History Web Site? >Regards >Ray > _________________________________________________________________ It's fast, it's easy and it's free. Get MSN Messenger today! http://www.msn.co.uk/messenger

Hi List is there a problem with The Isle of Wight Family History Web Site? Regards Ray

Hello Sandy Goodness you have set yourself a task. I have two people named DORE who married into my Isle of Wight families. However, at present they are just names to me and I do not think the information will be of much help to you. They are not in my direct line. George SMITH (12 Feb 1794 - 24 Jul 1837 said to have drowned Sydney, son of Nicholas SMITH and Frances HEARN) married 24 Oct 1824 Jane DORE (said to have died 1834). Source for information the SMITH genealogy prepared by the first archivist at the Record Office. I was unable to trace the drowning of George SMITH in Sydney Australia and wondered whether it could have been Sydney Canada. George CHEEK/CHICK (son of Robert CHEEK and Mabel HARVEY) married 13 Feb 1858 Whitwell Parish Church, Source LDS film 1470893 Regards Evelyn, Sydney, Australia ______________________________

Hi Evelyn: In your second paragraph, cited below, the wording initially suggested to me that George SMITH was said to have drowned (a person named) Sydney, who was the son of Nicholas and Frances. After re-reading the message and this sentence I realized you meant he had drowned _at_ Sydney (whether Australia or somewhere else) and that George was the son of Nicholas and Frances! (As my English teacher once pointed out, "The center-forward should have shot himself." was an example of ambiguity.) I have PHILLIPS and SMITH in my IOW interests. I was interested in your comments about the SMITH genealogy, is this available anywhere? Perhaps you can find other information regarding my SMITH family? 1871 Census, Portsea, Hampshire: RG10 PIECE 1142 FOLIO 46 PAGE 38 SCHEDULE 218 31 Yorke St, Portsea, Portsmouth George SMITH H M 40 Confectioner b. Wimbledon, Surrey Jane " W M 44 b. Gosport, Hants Rosa J " D U 14 Teacher b. Portsmouth Eliza A " D - 13 Scholar b. Portsmouth Emily " D - 11 " b. Portsmouth Sarah A " D - 9 " b. Portsmouth William G " S - 3 b. Portsmouth 1881 Census, Portsea 35 York St, Portsea, Hampshire, England RG11 Piece 1156 Folio 76 page 30 Name Relation Marital Status Gender Age Birthplace Occupation Disability George SMITH Head M Male 50 Wimbledon, Surrey, England Confectioner Jane SMITH Wife M Female 54 Gosport, Hampshire, England Rosa J. SMITH Daur U Female 24 Portsmouth, Hampshire, England Milliner Emily SMITH Daur U Female 21 Portsmouth, Hampshire, England Plain Needlewoman Sarah A. SMITH Daur U Female 18 Portsmouth, Hampshire, England Straw Bonnets William J. SMITH Son Male 13 Portsmouth, Hampshire, England Scholar Rosa E.A. PHILLIPS Grand Daur Female 1 Portsmouth, Hampshire, England 1891 Census, Portsea has Louis S WILLCOCKS and Sarah Ann WILLCOCKS nee SMITH (above) with no children but a niece, Olive M. PHILLIPS, 4, b. Bonchurch, IOW, visitor. Louis was my great-uncle. Olive was probably a daughter of Frederick Phillips and his wife, Eliza A. nee Smith (see 1871 above). 1891 census, IOW: RG12 PIECE 0885 FOLIO 27 PAGE 18 SCHEDULE 83 Horsebridge Hill, Northwood, IOW: Frederick W(M?)PHILLIPS H M 41 Convict Prison Warder b. Harding Heath, Southampton Eliza A " W M 32 b. Southsea, Hants Rose E. L. " D - 11 b. Southsea Kate " D - 10 b. Southsea Frederick G " S - 8 b. Northwood, IOW Arthur " S - 6 b. Northwood, IOW Lillie B " D - 5 b. Northwood, IOW Gladys E " D - 2 b. Northwood, IOW Rosa J SMITH Visitor U 34 b. Landport, Portsmouth Can anyone provide information about Olive M Phillips e.g 1901 census (she would be 14) etc. Any help appreciated, Regards Martin Willcocks Taylorsville, UT, USA Evelyn wrote: > George SMITH (12 Feb 1794 - 24 Jul 1837 said to have drowned Sydney, son of > Nicholas SMITH and Frances HEARN) married 24 Oct 1824 Jane DORE (said to > have died 1834). Source for information the SMITH genealogy prepared by the > first archivist at the Record Office. > I was unable to trace the drowning of George SMITH in Sydney Australia and > wondered whether it could have been Sydney Canada.

Last week I asked if anyone knew of a history of Binstead parish & church. This week I'm doing penance. In reading notes I made some years back I realized that I must have a copy of such a history and after rooting through piles of documents and in poorly-labelled files I found it, namely "The History of Holy Cross Church, Binstead, Isle of Wight", Jack Wheeler, with May 1969 preface by the rector Clifford Targett, printed by Lightbrowns, Ryde, 31 pages. The author speculates on the origins of the church - before the Domesday survey (1086)? It was probably founded to minister to the community working the famous Binstead limestone quarries from which the 12th century Quarr Abbey, "the most important religious foundation in the Isle of Wight", derived its name. The abbots of Quarr "were responsible for organizing the Island's defences against the frequent invasions of those times" (p. 30). The church was largely repaired in 1844 but there is no list of contributors to the cost (p. 10). Some items of interest to family historians are: - The earliest surviving registers date from 1710 (p. 20). - The Rector noted that in the period 1712-1734 baptisms were not entered in their proper place because "Ye Acctt was kept in papers by ye Clerk as he was ordered but neglected to be Enterd from 1712 to 1734. Ye Acctt was returned to ye Minister once in ye year." (p. 20). - "In the previous century [19th-century?] the people of Ryde used Binstead for burials instead of their own parish church at Newchurch, six miles distant. This may well have been due to difficult conditions in winter when the roads were practically impassable" (p. 22). - In February 1777 the curate noted that Thomas Gawne "of the Parish of Arreton, was baptized at Wootton where no Register was kept and at the request of his Parents this entry was made by me" (p. 22). - The hard-to-read 1620 inscription on a tomb in the churchyard states "Heare lyeth the bodyes of James Goodlad Parson and Sarah his wife..." This was in fact James Goodlad, rector (parson) of Binstead 1604-1620 (p. 24). I wonder how many similar inscriptions could be misread by confusing the surname with the profession? Names mentioned in the "History", excluding those of the rectors, are: Thomas LAWRANS, churchman, 1553 (p. 8). Richard KINGE, churchman, 1553 (p. 8). James Wilfrid ATTRILL, member of choir, ca 1948 (p. 12). John Nicholas HATHWAY, churchwarden, ca 1844? (p. 12). John N. HATHWAY, 1902 (p. 14). Arthur J. LENTON and wife Margaret, 1938 (p. 14). Col Archibald CLARKE (d. 1901), his wife Florence Bernard CLARKE (d. 1937) and their daughter Nora KENNEDY (p. 14). William Frederick WOOD (d. 1956) and his wife Mary Lily (d. 1965) (p. 14). Col Stephenson Robert CLARKE of Binstead House, 1932 (p. 16). Delme George MOOTHAM, churchwarden and treasurer, ca 1956 (p. 16). Farmer RAWKINS, churchwarden, 1710 (p. 20). The Widdow BROOKMAN, 1731 (p. 20). Sarah KING, widow from Ryde, 1758 (p. 20). Sarah JACOB, widow, 1758 (p. 20). John BARNS from Ryde, 1758 (p. 20). Richard YOUNG, wife Hannah, daughter Hannah, 1792 (p. 22). Fanny, daughter of Lt Col FOSTER, born in the East Indies, 1801 (p. 22). Lt George Wilson LEROUX of the 48th Regt of Foot, wife Mary Ellen & daughter Ellen Sophie O'Ryley, 1809 (p. 22). Antram BULSTRODE & Grace ADAMS, both of this parish, contested banns 1788 (p. 23). James DALLYMORE of Newport & Anne YOUNG of this parish, contested banns 1813 (p. 23). William LAVERS of Newchurch & Jane WOODMORE of this parish, banns 1820 (p. 23). Thomas SIVELL, mariner shot by Customs Officers, 1785 (p. 24). Samuel LANDON whose "huge figure earned for him the local name of giant", 1844 (p. 26). Of course there was no mention of the LIST family of Fishbourne in which I am interested. Peter Gawn (Canada).

Thank you for the help from several people on the list about the burial of the above. I only wish I had more on the Isle of Wight as your list is so helpful! Bob ___________________________________________________________ALL-NEW Yahoo! Messenger - all new features - even more fun! http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com

Hi Everyone Are there any records of property ownership at all. I have two adjoining cottages mentioned in a 1903 will, they are identified as "PEVERIL" (originally transcribed as PEBBLE) cottages in East Cowes. The two sisters who inherited them were living at I Netley Villas, Atherley Road by 1933 but I have been told that no longer exists. Any help would be appreciated Anita _________________________________________________________________ Find love today with ninemsn personals. Click here: http://ninemsn.match.com?referrer=hotmailtagline

Hi Everyone Has anyone researched the ARNOLD family headed, in the 1881 census by Isaac shipwight aged 41? Three daughters are listed: Agnes A then aged 6 Gertrude M then aged 11 (a marriage listed on the IOW FS site to Harry E BRONWIN in 1903 could be her) Ede Emily then aged 3 (marriage listed on the IOW FS site to Harry E POLLARD 1905 could be her) Many thanks Anita _________________________________________________________________ Find love today with ninemsn personals. Click here: http://ninemsn.match.com?referrer=hotmailtagline

Hello :) I am trying to clarify the different Dore Clans around the IOW. My husbands lineage is out of Norton, Freshwater, Yarmouth areas ...however while I'm focusing on those areas... I am also learning far more than I planned on about ALL the Dores in IOW as early as 1500-1700's. I would invite you to contact me thru this list so that the information can be saved online forever for others to find someday. I'm working with another cousin (living in England) and we've collected quite a collection of names. Please feel free to send us 2-4 generations of names and we would be happy to try and match you into a line we've collected...which may or may not link to our family of Dores. Group A...We are especially interested in Dore's out of Norton, Freshwater & Yarmouth...especially those that married into families such as Comes, Atkins, Boyer, Kent, Keat, Guy, Dibbens, Woodford, Bright, Gunn, Cammel, Toogood, Gould, Williams and Brett... Group B...A different line out of this same area that we are working (currently can't link theirs to ours)...includes names such as Steeven, Harvey, Lacey, Lacy, Johnson, Woodford, Galpen, Day, Gyer, Dickenson, Percey, Jolliffe, Snow, Baldwin, Trickett, possibly Brett, possibly Toogood, Capell, Cassell, Scovell, Waite, Mitchell, Theobald, Passey, Willyar, Wall, Salter, White Group C...Another line that is mostly from a different location (Brook, Shalfleet, Brixton) would be Dores that married into lines such as : Crew, Hollis, Granger, Pleyer, Dyer, Atkey, Dallimore, Holston, Snudden, Ward, Lovett, Jacobs, Manns, Adams, Horlock, Pickerel, Cheverton, Thearll Hope to hear from any or all Dore researchers!! Sandy in Sacramento Homepage http://home.earthlink.net/~sandymento/

Peter Contact Revd. Nick Wallace The Rectory, Pitts Lane Binstead, IOW. PO33 3SU Tel (01983) 562890 There is a good website showing contacts for IOW churches and email addresses at http://www.wightchurches.co.uk/churches.htm#ryde Chris and Caroline -----Original Message----- From: Peter Gawn [mailto:pgawn@dccnet.com] Sent: 30 July 2004 19:23 To: ISLE-OF-WIGHT-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [IoW] Holy Cross, Binstead. Does anyone know whether there is a history, or at least a leaflet, about Holy Cross church and parish, and if so where I could get a copy? I am particularly interested in knowing whether the LIST shipbuilding family of Fishbourne were benefactors of the church. Fishbourne is in Binstead parish. Several family members, including the master shipbuilder Daniel LIST (1781-1868), are buried in Holy Cross churchyard. Daniel List died relatively wealthy and although he made no bequest to Holy Cross in his will it is possible that he might have provided financial help to the parish in the period, say, 1830-1860. Thanks, Peter Gawn (Canada). --- Incoming mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.726 / Virus Database: 481 - Release Date: 22/07/2004 --- All of our outgoing mail is checked and certified Virus Free by regularl updates Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.726 / Virus Database: 481 - Release Date: 22/07/2004

Does anyone know whether there is a history, or at least a leaflet, about Holy Cross church and parish, and if so where I could get a copy? I am particularly interested in knowing whether the LIST shipbuilding family of Fishbourne were benefactors of the church. Fishbourne is in Binstead parish. Several family members, including the master shipbuilder Daniel LIST (1781-1868), are buried in Holy Cross churchyard. Daniel List died relatively wealthy and although he made no bequest to Holy Cross in his will it is possible that he might have provided financial help to the parish in the period, say, 1830-1860. Thanks, Peter Gawn (Canada).

I have a relative who died 5 August 1949. At the time of death Harriet TALBOT lived at 8 St Johns Place, Newport. Can anyone help as to where might she be buried? ___________________________________________________________ALL-NEW Yahoo! Messenger - all new features - even more fun! http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com

In the 1891 census my grandmother Florence Thompson appears as one of about 50 young women working for a ladies tailor. The premises at which they were living (and presumably working?) was 41 - 42 High Street Civil Parish of Northwood. The name of the town looks like `washbourne'. Does anyone know what this establishment might have been. Family history has that she worked for a firm called `Redfern's' who made dresses for Queen Victoria. I hope there is someone out there who can throw some light on this Thanks Jean in New Zealand

Jan You can find out most of the information yourself using the Isle of Wight Family History Searchable Birth & Marriage index at: http://www.isle-of-wight-fhs.co.uk/ Normally to "look up" the information you provided is not really possible without getting the certificate that the GRO ref would provide. However because of the great work of the IOWFHS, and a bit of luck with the dates, entering Cave & 1869 in the searchable birth index lists George and provides the "other surname" as LEWIS (this is usually but not always the Mother's maiden name). Using this you can look up the marriages and hope that the parents married on the Island as well. In this case entering CAVE as surname for marriages from 1837 to 1870 revealed the possible (or perhaps probable) marriage also in 1869 of George Cave and Ellen Lewis at Christ Church Sandown. You should of course confirm this is the correct marriage by applying for a copy of the birth and marriage certificates but I think its a fair bet that this is the information you are looking for. Getting the certificate will of course also give you some extra information including of course date of birth, date of marriage, address, occupation etc. I'm not sure if the IOW Registrar can provide copies overseas, if they can then the reference in the index (which is not the same as the gro ref) can be used to order it, and the IOWFHS even provide an application form partially completed to help. If not I believe you can now apply online for a GRO Certificate. Jon Baker -----Original Message----- From: BazzMc111@aol.com [mailto:BazzMc111@aol.com] Sent: 28 July 2004 05:19 To: ISLE-OF-WIGHT-L@rootsweb.com Subject: GEORGE ALBERT HEMBEST CAVE. Hello Listers, Would be most grateful if someone would look up for me...GEORGE CAVE, born SEPTEMBER Qr 1869/I O W (Isle of Wight) 2b 517. I am looking to find out parents of GEORGE. Many Thanks for any help. Jan McFarland...Australia. ______________________________

I shall be unsubing tomorrow off on holiday ....where am i going ....well to the Isle of wight of course . Back soon jean

Hi IOW List Members A few weeks ago I noticed a member asking for information re URRY surname. I have only the following: a.. William URRY maried Mary Flaskett (I don't have any dates or other details). They had a daughter : b.. Constant Urry, born 1717, Christened 14 April 1717 at Gatcombe 'of Chillerton'. Constant Ury married John Linnington 11 July 1742 at Newport IOW. If this is your URRY please contact me privately and I will send details of their chidlren (8). This information was sent to me some time ago, by a very generous IOW FHS member. Regards Ann Perth, Western Australia explorer@smartchat.net.au Fax: 6 1 8 9361 8920.