Thank you for the various responses Views were unanimous that Schaldflint is very probably Shalfleet with Paul Cutmore offering some evidence in support Hordhill might be Godshill Regards Graham Buckell Nottingham, England

There was an Ephraim Taylor who was born 1742 and died in Afton in 1825. He was married to an Elizabeth..She was born in 1746 and died 9 Jun 1833..(Her surname could have been Groves..but am not positive about it) Their children were..Henry,Anne,Thomas,Elizabeth,Ephraim,Anthony,and Jane.. Henry married Christian ..their children were Henry,Ann,George,Eliza,Emma,William,Leonard,Benjamin,Elizabeth.. Ephraim married a Sarah...their children were William,Hannah,James,Mary,Ann,Jane,John,Charles,Edward,Elizabeth.. ..Henry Taylor..lived with Elizabeth Groves at Hook Hill,Freshwater. George Taylor married Hannah Lish..their children were.. Kate,Edward,Fanny,Elizabeth,Lucy,Keziah,Eliza,Edith,George,Agnes.. Elizabeth married Thomas Knightall and when she died he married her sister Kate..in Freshwater..8 children in all .. Maybe some of these Taylors are related to yours.?

--=======5E7986E======= Content-Type: text/plain; x-avg-checked=avg-ok-3E0C6851; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Dear IOW Cousins, The IOW FHS BDMs are marvellous, but I still have a few queries about this family: Frank Charles TAYLOR, born Colwell May 1844, married Mary Ann CHIVERTON (bn Dec 1846, Wilmingham) in Freshwater in 1867. Their son Albert Edward, born School Green 1876 is my husband's Great-Grandfather. I have found 2 sisters for him: Alice, born 1869 Augusta Caroline 1873. Family sources have a brother Frank - which I am beginning to doubt! - and a sister Emily. I have been told that Emily lived at High Street, Freshwater, and I have nothing about Frank. (Albert's youngest daughter is 91 tomorrow, living in Gosport, and I'd love to be able to give her the full story - soon!) I suspect that these 2 may have been other relations, especially since the family moved to Bridgemary, Gosport between 1881 and 1891 - apparently because Albert 'killed' someone in a fight. Have found no trace of this - though I can't have exhausted all the sources! I have extensive trees back for Frank Charles and for Mary Ann, but would love to discover whether there were other children who I haven't found. Hopefully, Liz Elizabeth Lane Worthing West Sussex liz_lane@ntlworld.com --=======5E7986E======= Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; x-avg=cert; x-avg-checked=avg-ok-3E0C6851 Content-Disposition: inline --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.737 / Virus Database: 491 - Release Date: 8/11/04 --=======5E7986E=======--

Was wondering if anyone was researching Alfred WARREN b 1857 (reg Cowes) of Fanny Anne JOLLIFFE b 1853 (reg Ryde). They married 1879. In 1881 census Lizzie JOLLIFFE age 14 is staying with them. Would love to hear from anyone. Andy Trim Australia

Hi Everyone, On the subject of on-line resources, I've found the Mormon's site to be really helpful. One of the main things it has is the 1881 British census. As a little tip that might be helpful to others, I confirmed a relationship link by going into an individual record then clicking on the "household" link on the right-hand side of the screen to see all the members of the household. From here you can then navigate to "previous household" or "next household" (again, using the links on the right hand-side of the screen) to go to neighbouring properties. As related family groups quite often live near each other (probably more so in past times), I found a parents-son group living next door to each other (worth a try!!!???) Here's the link to the site: http://www.familysearch.org/Eng/Search/frameset_search.asp Regards, Dean. Southampton. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Angela McMurtry" <palmtreeqld@optusnet.com.au> To: <ISLE-OF-WIGHT-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, August 19, 2004 3:31 AM Subject: [IoW] Documents Online > http://www.documentsonline.nationalarchives.gov.uk/ > > For those who haven't been to the site above it is well worth a look > They are in the process of digitising the WW1 Campaign Medals for the > British Army and Royal Flying Corp. I typed Isle of Wight in to the search > engine and found quite a number . > > Also some Wills you'll need to search the Indexes > > Angela > > > > > >

http://www.documentsonline.nationalarchives.gov.uk/ For those who haven't been to the site above it is well worth a look They are in the process of digitising the WW1 Campaign Medals for the British Army and Royal Flying Corp. I typed Isle of Wight in to the search engine and found quite a number . Also some Wills you'll need to search the Indexes Angela

Good Morning to fellow Genealogists worldwide :). this is for my friend and totally new to me. Can anyone tell me how to start looking for the birth parents of someone who was adopted, hopefully! both parents may still be alive. Any help would be gratefully received. Many thanks in Advance. Lesley --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.740 / Virus Database: 494 - Release Date: 16/08/2004

Graham > A Google search for both Hordhill and Schaldflint gives nothing > although I > have found references to both in connection with the Trenchard name in a > Trenchard family tree on the net. > > Does anyone know anything of these names? "Schaldflint" is almost certainly Shalfleet. Although later than Hen I, Henry Trenchard was parson of Shalfleet. Also, the dower of Isabella Trenchard, drawn up in 1356 as widow of John Trenchard, shows "one-third of the watermill at Shalfleet" and property in Watchingwell. John had also held property in Chessel. Not sure about "Hordhill". Regards Paul Cutmore

Hi List, Whilst searching the IOW FHS site for the Family RANN for a friend, I came across some of my family names and the following names. If anyone has interest in any of these names, Births, Deaths & Marriages - I'm happy to share. Contact me off list and I can provide my info as either an Excel spreadsheet or Word file ABLETT, BABY, CARTER, DAVEY, HALL, MACCARTNEY, SADLER, TAYLOR, ALLAN, BAKER, CARTWRIGHT, DAVIS, HALLAM, MARINO, SALTER, THATCHER, ASH, BARKHAM, CASSON, DOVE, HARDING, MARRIOTT, SAUNDERS, THOMPSON, EGGLETON, BARNES, CHAPPELL, DOWNER, HARLEY, MARSHALL, SEAGER, VENTRESS, ELDRIDGE, BARNETT, CHEEK, DRAPER, HARRIS, MARSHFIELD, SHARON, WAY, FLUX, BARTON, CHESSELL, DREDGE, HARVEY, MCLEAN, SHIRLEY, WEEKS, FRIEND, BENNETT, CHEVERTON, DUDLEY, HAYDEN, MEGUYER, SIBBICK, WESCOMB, FULLER, BIFFIN, COLSON, DYER, HAYES, MERWOOD, SMITH, WEST, GALE, BLOW, COOK, KINGSWELL, HEARN, MEW, SNOW, WESTMORE, GAPES, BRENCHLEY, COOPER, KISSICK, HEENAN, MILES, SPANNER, WHITE, GAUNT, BROMLEY, CORNEY, LEAL, HENDY, MILLER, SQUIBB, WHITTINGTON, GAWLER, BUCKET, COTTON, LEPPARD, HILLS, MILLMORE, SQUIRE, WILLIAMS, GAWN, BULL, COTTRELL, LESLIE, HINKS, MITCHELL, STEPHENS, WITHERS, GIDDENS, BURT, CROAD, LEWIS, HORNE, MOORMAN, STROUD, WOODCOCK, GILLIAM, BUSH, CROUCH, LEY, HOWELL, MORRIS, SULLIVAN, WOODWARD, GODWIN, BUTT, CUNNINGTON, LITTLE, HUNT, MURSELL, SWEATMAN, WRIGHT, GRAY, JOLLIFFE, PARR, LUKE, JERRAM, REES, PRICE, YOUNG, GREGORY, JUPE, PAYNE, RANN, PLUMLEY, RUFFELL, PRINCE, PRAGNELL, GRIMES, NEWBERY, PERKINS, RASHLEY, POINTER, GUY, NOTON, PERRETT, GROVES, NIENDORFF, PRESTON, RAYNOR, PORTER, ORCHARD, NUNN, PERRY, READ, REALEY, Regards, Ron Cooper Land of Oz

Graham I haven't seen any reply to your query yet. Is it possible Schaldflint is SHALFLEET? Hordhill has me beaten unless it could conceivably be Godshill. I hope someone can help with a more authoritative explanation. Brian ----- Original Message ----- From: "Graham Buckell" <g.buckell@ntlworld.com> To: <ISLE-OF-WIGHT-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, August 16, 2004 6:18 PM Subject: [IoW] Trenchard in Hordhill & Schaldflint > In researching the TRENCHARD line, I have come across the following > > Baldwin de Riparjis, Earl of Devon, granted Hordhill in the Isle of Wight to > Paganus Trenchard and his heirs ... This Baldwin lived in the time of King > Henry I. > > This appeared in the book Burke's Commoners of Great Britain and Ireland > printed in 1837 and 1838 (part of Ancestry's collection) > > There is also reference to land at Schaldflint > > A Google search for both Hordhill and Schaldflint gives nothing although I > have found references to both in connection with the Trenchard name in a > Trenchard family tree on the net. > > Does anyone know anything of these names? > > Regards > > Graham Buckell > Nottingham, England > > >

Hi Sue Thanks for the message about your gggrandfather Leonard WARNE. He got married in 1860 and was born 1834. My ggrandmother Elizabeth Harding WARNE got married in 1863 and was born about 1842. I wonder if Leonard could have been Elizabeth's older brother? Just a thought. Gill J.

do an internet search on historicaldirectories - should find the Leicester University site of online directories don't think there are any electoral registers for the period online - contact IW Record Office for search of theirs. Contact IW Reference Library at Lord Louis Library, Newport for directory search ----- Original Message ----- From: "T Woodford" <derence@telkomsa.net> To: <ISLE-OF-WIGHT-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, August 17, 2004 9:00 PM Subject: re:A MOSS at Cowes > Hello Diana, > I apologise! I am at fault through recording what I think I read. > (a) In the case of "Heilbron", the news cutting stated "------Mr. Stanley Moss of "Heilbron", Cowes." > > (b) My mother placed a bereavement notice in a newspaper which read " MOSS--- On 25th October, 1924 at > Belmont, Cowes, I.O.W., Bridget Bertha -------" > > Probably then both names refer to a house names. > Any advice on getting directories and / or electoral lists dated in the period 1910 - 1924, online? > regards, > Terence > > ______________________________

Hi Keith, I don't have any Taylors going that far back I'm afraid (it would be good to make the link though). However, I do have a connection with Harriet Taylor (b.1792, d.1863 - married John Spanner (b.1796, d.1871). She was the daughter of John Taylor (no dates) and Hannah Earwaker (b.1786) (Hannah's parents were: John Earwaker (b.1753, bu.1831) & Ann Norgate (b.1765, bu.18060)). Ann's father was John Norgate (no dates). Dean, Southampton. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Keith Taylor" <keith.taylor1@ntlworld.com> To: <ISLE-OF-WIGHT-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, August 15, 2004 5:23 PM Subject: [IoW] TAYLOR Isle of Wight 1600's > I am wondering if somebody would be able to help me with the following? > > Henery TAYLOR married Ellenor probably in the late 1500's early 1600's. Ellenor was the daughter of Sir John de KINGSTON and Matilda. It appears that they had either two or three sons Henery, John and maybe Richard. Richard may have been a son of John's the "tree" that I have is unclear. However it explains that Ellenor's husband Henery must have died because she had a second husband William DREW. > > I am wondering if anybody has researched the TAYLOR's on the Island around that time and also if there could be any connection with John TAYLOR of Ropley or Thomas TAYLOR of Bradley in Hampshire both were farmers in the 1600's. I have traced my Taylor's back through Whitchurch from 1670 onwards and this would be the breakthrough of what would seem to be a massive brickwall. > > I would be grateful for any suggestions, help etc that anybody could offer. > > Keith Taylor, > St. Albans. > >

Hello Diana, I apologise! I am at fault through recording what I think I read. (a) In the case of "Heilbron", the news cutting stated "------Mr. Stanley Moss of "Heilbron", Cowes." (b) My mother placed a bereavement notice in a newspaper which read " MOSS--- On 25th October, 1924 at Belmont, Cowes, I.O.W., Bridget Bertha -------" Probably then both names refer to a house names. Any advice on getting directories and / or electoral lists dated in the period 1910 - 1924, online? regards, Terence

DEAR SHERWILL IN REPLY TO YOUR ENQUIRY REGARDING THE SURNAME CALLAWAY,I THOUGHT I MAY BE ABLE TO HELP,I AM MARRIED TO MARGARET CALLAWAY WHOS FAMILY ORIGINATE FROM ST HELENS AND BEMBRIDGE AND ALSO BRADING.BACK IN THE 1700 TO 1800s THEY WERE A SEA FARING FAMILY PROBERLY GAINING A FAIR LIVING FROM THE SMUGGLING TRADE,THEY WERE ALSO KNOWN AS WADE-CALLAWAY FROM A MARRIAGE IN THE ST HELENS AREA WHERE WADE IS A LOCAL NAME,ALSO THEY MARRIED INTO THE SNOW FAMILY,SNOW BEING A BEMBRIDGE LOCAL NAME,WE HAVE RECORDS OF A JOHN SNOW WHICH GO BACK TO THE EARLY 1800s WHICH SHOW HIM TO BE THE LOCAL CARPENTER,UNDERTAKER,AND DENTIST. THE CALLAWAYS THEN WENT INTO FARMING IN THE LATE 1800s FARMING AT WHITEFIELD FARM NR RYDE,THEN HARDINGSHUTE FARM NR BRADING. BOTH FARMS WERE ON THE OGLANDER NUNWELL MANOR ESTATE. RECORDS OF BIRTHS,MARRIAGES,DEATHS CAN BE FOUND AT BRADING PARISH CHURCH AND ST HELENS AND BEMBRIDGE PARISH CHURCH RECORDS. HOPE THIS HELPS,PLEASE GET BACK TO ME IF I CAN HELP FURTHER. ALSO IF ANY OF YOU LISTERS CAN HELP IT WOULD BE NICE ,THANKYOU KIND REGARDS, KEN MARRIOTT,RYDE .IOW

Following the help I received from Janet Bush and Jon Baker I am now in possession of a copy of the birth certificate (1840) and marriage certificate (1863) of my great grandfather William LANE. I have discovered that his parents were: Richard LANE and Mary Ann LANE (nee STOREY) and my great grandmother's father was Leonard WARNE mariner (deceased) Does anyone have easy access to census records? If so I would be grateful if a search could be made either in 1851 or 1861 for each family. It is likely that they were all living in Cowes. I am particularly interested in other siblings and the birthplaces of the parents :- Richard LANE age abt 31 (1851) Mary Ann LANE age abt 40 William LANE son age abt 11 Leonard WARNE age abt 30 wife ? Elizabeth Harding WARNE dau. age abt 10 Thanks again to Janet and Jon for the original help. Gill. Jones

Hi Sally, Many thanks for this suggestion and the additional information. Sadly I have been working past few days and unable to respond before this. Herbert Antrobus was born in 1875 and so would have been 38 years old in 1914. Would this have made him too old to join the army in 1914 or would they have taken anyone regardless of age? I have contacted the Verger at All Saints (who had kindly found the MI) and maybe she will take another look at the inscription to see if the C is actually a G. She had also thought it could have been Royal Canadian Artillery, but I cannot find any enlistment for Antrobus on the Canadian sites. I really do appreciate your help, and that of others who have tried to help me solve this puzzle. Best wishes to all. Lis Warwood Adelaide South Australia -----Original Message----- From: sally [mailto:daisykin@msn.com] Sent: Monday, 16 August 2004 3:41 AM To: ISLE-OF-WIGHT-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [IoW] Re; meaning of RAC Hello lis, Could RCA be a misinterpretation of RGA? I ask because while taking a break from searching for a record of one of my "where did you disappear to!" ancestors at the following website, http://www.documentsonline.nationalarchives.gov.uk Family History, WWI medals. I found someone who could be who could be your Herbert Antrobus. 1914-1920 ANTROBUS Herbert Royal Garrison Artillery Regiment no; 284573 Rank; Gunner Because I thought this may be a bit of a longshot, I looked up the Royal Garrison Artillery (RGA) at, http://www.regiments.org and found that the RGA was part of the Royal Field Artillery (RFA).The Wessex (Hampshire) Brigade, RGA was part of the 2nd Wessex Artillery Brigade RFA and they had the 5th Hampshire Battery at Freshwater IOW. (there were also other RGA units in IOW and Hampshire). I hope this helps, Sally.

Have you tried http://www.archives.ca and checked the Canadian Expeditionary Forces papers. Quite a few IOW Canadians joined WWI. You can request copies of same from a form right on the site. Hope this helps. = = = = = = = = = = = = Pat C., BHCD Quakertown, PA US BLUROC1@worldnet.att.net = = = = = = = = = = = = = Incoming/outgoing mail scanned by Norton 2004 = = = = = = = = = = = = = = ----- Original Message ----- From: Lis Warwood To: ISLE-OF-WIGHT-L@rootsweb.com Sent: Monday, August 16, 2004 8:18 PM Subject: RE: [IoW] Re; meaning of RAC Hi Sally, Many thanks for this suggestion and the additional information. Sadly I have been working past few days and unable to respond before this. Herbert Antrobus was born in 1875 and so would have been 38 years old in 1914. Would this have made him too old to join the army in 1914 or would they have taken anyone regardless of age? I have contacted the Verger at All Saints (who had kindly found the MI) and maybe she will take another look at the inscription to see if the C is actually a G. She had also thought it could have been Royal Canadian Artillery, but I cannot find any enlistment for Antrobus on the Canadian sites. I really do appreciate your help, and that of others who have tried to help me solve this puzzle. Best wishes to all. Lis Warwood Adelaide South Australia -----Original Message----- From: sally [mailto:daisykin@msn.com] Sent: Monday, 16 August 2004 3:41 AM To: ISLE-OF-WIGHT-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [IoW] Re; meaning of RAC Hello lis, Could RCA be a misinterpretation of RGA? I ask because while taking a break from searching for a record of one of my "where did you disappear to!" ancestors at the following website, http://www.documentsonline.nationalarchives.gov.uk Family History, WWI medals. I found someone who could be who could be your Herbert Antrobus. 1914-1920 ANTROBUS Herbert Royal Garrison Artillery Regiment no; 284573 Rank; Gunner Because I thought this may be a bit of a longshot, I looked up the Royal Garrison Artillery (RGA) at, http://www.regiments.org and found that the RGA was part of the Royal Field Artillery (RFA).The Wessex (Hampshire) Brigade, RGA was part of the 2nd Wessex Artillery Brigade RFA and they had the 5th Hampshire Battery at Freshwater IOW. (there were also other RGA units in IOW and Hampshire). I hope this helps, Sally.

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In researching the TRENCHARD line, I have come across the following Baldwin de Riparjis, Earl of Devon, granted Hordhill in the Isle of Wight to Paganus Trenchard and his heirs ... This Baldwin lived in the time of King Henry I. This appeared in the book Burke's Commoners of Great Britain and Ireland printed in 1837 and 1838 (part of Ancestry's collection) There is also reference to land at Schaldflint A Google search for both Hordhill and Schaldflint gives nothing although I have found references to both in connection with the Trenchard name in a Trenchard family tree on the net. Does anyone know anything of these names? Regards Graham Buckell Nottingham, England