Hi I'm looking for information on Oliver Jolliffe and family. The 1881 census shows he was born in Whitwell abt. 1832. Any information on Oliver or his ancestors would be much appreciated. Thanks, Keith Scott Australia.

Graham Just realised that Hordhill is probably "Hordle" which is half-way between Christchurch and Lymington on the mainland. Victoria County History refers to "Hordle Trenchard" in Christchurch Hundred. John Trenchard was lord of Hordle in 1428. Paul Cutmore

Hello Listers Dave Peach very kindly emailed me this information from the 1891 Census. Does anyone know any more about this 'Home'? RG12 PIECE 0892 FOLIO 14 PAGE 22 Schedule 136 'The Home', Pellhurst Road, Ryde, IOW Kate SULLIVAN, Inmate, U, 14, Inmate Refuge Home, b. Marylebone, London Mary SULLIVAN, Inmate, U, 10, Inmate Refuge Home, b. Marylebone, London Best Wishes Suzanne (Maitland-Wood)

Hi Jeanne Thanks for the information and yes, we are know of these people, although currently not aware of any connection to Joseph's line in the 1880's. Regards - Audrey -----Original Message----- From: Jeanne Mayer [mailto:jemmayer@hotmail.com] Sent: 29 August 2004 12:46 To: ISLE-OF-WIGHT-L@rootsweb.com Subject: RE: [IoW] WELSFORD Hi Audrey, Have you looked at BT.com? http://www2.bt.com/edq_resnamesearch I just entered the name Welsford and the town Bonchurch and it came up with two. Of course you might already be in touch with these, but if not it might be worth contacting them in case they can help with the research. If not there are lots of helpful and knowledgeable people on this list. best wishes, Jeanne _________________________________________________________________ It's fast, it's easy and it's free. Get MSN Messenger today! http://www.msn.co.uk/messenger ______________________________

Hi Sue I did realise that the website you gave me had an incorrect letter but I haven't had any luck using this site for this particular search. I have no idea at present where my ggrandmother Elizabeth Harding WARNE was born apart from somewhere on the Isle of Wight. In 1863 she married William LANE (a carpenter) from West Cowes. At the time of the marriage (which took place in The IOW Register Office) she was also living in West Cowes. Her father Leonard WARNE (a mariner) was deceased by the time she got married. I don't know where he was born or who he married. I'm sorry I'm not able to give you any more information than this. Gill

Sorry about all the gibberish that appeared when I forwarded the article from the Cork Examiner earlier. All I did was highlight the pertinent bit and hit forward.....didn't know it was going to have all the rest. Sorry.....mary lou

I'm overwhelmed! Thank you, Ann, Jeanne and Cynthia! If this is the right Mary SULLIVAN (nee HURLEY) . . . in 1881 she was living at . . . 15 Harrow Street, St Marylebone, London, Middlesex Denis SULLIVAN, Head, marr, 26, Tailor, born St Anns, Mddx Mary SULLIVAN, Wife, marr, 24, Milk Woman, born St Anns, Mddx Catherine SULLIVAN, Dau, 3, born St Marylebone, Mddx Mary SULLIVAN, Dau, 1, born St Marylebone, Mddx . . . and in 1901 she had married again . . . Old Toll Gate, Newport Road, Upper Ventnor James FOSS, Head, 42, Carter on Farm, born Beaulieu, Hants Mary FOSS, Wife, 42, Charwoman, born St Marylebone, Mddx James G M FOSS, Son, 2, born Ventnor Sharron in Australia possibly found her daughters working as waitresses at a Dining Room in Brushfield Street, Spitalfields in 1901, but where is Annie, and what happened to Dennis? Catherine SULLIVAN m. Arthur James ARNOLD on 12 Sep 1903 Godshill Mary SULLIVAN m. Thomas William BULL on 11 Jul 1906 Ryde Annie SULLIVAN m. George Henry BULL on 8 Aug 1916 Ventnor Thanks again everyone! Cheers Suzanne

Hi Audrey, Have you looked at BT.com? http://www2.bt.com/edq_resnamesearch I just entered the name Welsford and the town Bonchurch and it came up with two. Of course you might already be in touch with these, but if not it might be worth contacting them in case they can help with the research. If not there are lots of helpful and knowledgeable people on this list. best wishes, Jeanne _________________________________________________________________ It's fast, it's easy and it's free. Get MSN Messenger today! http://www.msn.co.uk/messenger

Hello Listers I am currently reassessing an old, big, problem. Is some kind soul able to fill in the rest of the occupants and details for 103 Shanklin Road in the 1891 Census (below)? Most pressing, is Mary a widow? 1891 Census 103 Shanklin Road, . . . . . . . . ANDREWS, Head, . . . Mary SULLIVAN, Boarder, 33, born London . . . Anne SULLIVAN, Boarder, 4, born London . . . I will be eternally grateful!!!! Best Wishes Suzanne

Good day I'm new to the list, but not to genealogy or mailing lists. My main family name interest is WELSFORD and I work on the various branches with a cousin. We have gathered so much information in our hunt for direct line family that we are now are forming them into 'sagas', as a way of documenting details. Currently my cousin is working on a Joseph WELSFORD. We know that he was born in London 1812, but left the country, as he married Mary Frances LINTON in 1836 in Barbados, where they had one child in 1840. It is assumed that Mary died, as Joseph has been located with an Ann Thomson Elder (marriage place & date unknown), because their children's births have been located in the United States. He applied to become US citizen - applying in 1849 and becoming a citizen in 1854. At some point the family came back from the US, as several of the children are on the UK 1881 census in one location. However, neither Joseph, wife Ann nor their daughter Margaret appears on that census and yet Joseph died in Bonchurch in 1885, having lived /owned Winterbourne House. His wife was still living at Winterbourne House in 1886 and his daughter Margaret Elder also died at Bonchurch, Isle of Wight. Another daughter Alice Martha married a William Proctor on the Isle of Wight. I appreciate we are making assumptions that the three of them came back from the US at the same time as the other children, but I wonder if there is anyone with access to local directories or even local census transcriptions for the area, who would be willing to look-up the name WELSFORD. We are currently not aware of any other branch of the family that lived on the Isle of Wight in the time-frame, although if any were found we gratefully accept them, as they are all cousins! Thank you for any help you can offer. Regards Audrey Du'Mont Just north of Bristol - England

Hi Mary Lou A piece of trivia about Queen Victoria . . . ". . . The names of 'Alexandrina Victoria' were bestowed upon her, the former in honour of the Empress of Russia, and the latter because it was borne by her mother, Princess Victoria of Saxe-Coburg Saalfeld. During her babyhood, the Royal child was known as 'Princess Drina' . . ." From 'Life of Queen Victoria' by a Lady of the Court, 1901 Anyone any ideas about the 'Henry' part? Cheers Suzanne

In a message dated 08/28/2004 2:11:12 AM Mountain Daylight Time, raymondo.sturgess@virgin.net writes: VICTOR ALEXANDER > HENRY. Very interesting, indeed.....wonder what those names meant to Queen Victoria (other than the obvious for Victor)? Thanks for posting......mary lou sun valley, id usa

Dear Maryanne Whilst researching my HARBERT family I came across the following burial Daniel WOODFORD b. 3rd December 1801. St. Helens. Drowned 29th November 1801 with my gggg gfather John HARBERT, and Robert TORBECK and James STALLARD all buried on the 7th December 1801. Hope it helps Pat Somerfield

Hi List I thought the kind people on the Island list might be interested in this email that was posted to the Kent list. regards ray. -------------------------- > Hi Listers, > > This is for those of you who were interested in my story of Henry William > Denne Denne who was killed in the Boer War and left behind a pregnant wife. > My sincere thanks goes to Jean and Bryce from this List who gave me a lot > of help and advice. They also put me in touch with a David Stevens who > must be a historian as he gave me the whole of Henry William's army career. > > It started when I found out that one of my DENNEs from Littlebourne [who > had enlisted with the Gordon Highlanders] had been killed in the Boer War > leaving behind a pregnant wife, and that the child then became the godson > of Queen Victoria. I tried to find out why and if there was any > connection between the Dennes and Q. Victoria, but with no luck. > > Melanie Carruthers from the KFHS until recently was the Curator of the > Gordon Highlander' Museum in Aberdeen, and she very kindly went back to do > some research for me. Now the new born son of Henry [now deceased] and > Mabel Denne was christened VICTOR ALEXANDER HENRY DENNE DENNE, but it > appears from the records that Q. Victoria stood as godmother to all sons of > officers killed in the Boer war. However, there was one proviso and that > was that they would all be given the Christian names of VICTOR ALEXANDER > HENRY. So if you ever come across someone born circa 1900 with the > initials of VAH, chances are they are the godsons of Queen Victoria. > > To end this tale young Victor also joined the Gordon Highlanders and in > 1941 was in Singapore when later he became prisoner of war of the Japs. > > Isn't genealogy interesting. > > Regards > > Dorothy > > > > ==== KENT-ENG Mailing List ==== > There is a Kent / Sussex History Timeline at : > http://snow.prohosting.com/astrostu/index20.html >

Thanks to everyone who replied, with offers to transcribe the obit for HH Ryall. Evelyn Smith contacted the NSW Library directly for me and requested a copy, which hopefully she will get in the next 10 days or so and will then send on to me. As always, the Island list proves to be as helpful as ever. Jon Baker -----Original Message----- From: Jon Baker [mailto:jon@vectis10w.freeserve.co.uk] Sent: 25 August 2004 22:40 To: ISLE-OF-WIGHT-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Looking for help with IW RYALL in Oz Thanks to Ann Barrett (again, where would my RYALL research be without her and Les) I have found why another of "my" IW RYALLs appeared to have gone walkabout, in this case almost literally. On Ann's site she had a reference to an H H RYALL in the County Press in 1926. Ann sent me a copy of the photograph and it showed Herbert Henry Ryall, JP of Ryde, son of T Ryall who had been appointed as private secretary to the former Australian PM William Morris Hughes. Having found this out, I then discovered with a little googling that HH died in 1975, and the Ryerson Index http://www.rootsweb.com/~nswsdps/dpsindex.htm indicates that there is an obituary in the Sydney Morning Herald of 4 Jan 1975. Here's the point - do any of our Australian subscribers know how I might obtain a copy/transcript of this obituary? It would hopefully give some more useful information about what happened to him and any further family connections. I think I have found that he married Janet Burton Chapman but would like to confirm if possible. It still amazes me how one little snippet can translate so quickly into lots more useful information. Thanks again Ann. Since then I found in the latest IOWFHS journal received yesterday that Herbert's sister Elsie Margaret who I knew married Henry W O Weeks became mayoress of Ryde during WW2. Henry was mayor of course, and his son was Colin Weeks, whose diary has been serialised in the last few IOWFHS journals - I had not previously taken much interest in them but now will have to go and re-read them with a new insight. Its interesting to see that this branch of the RYALLs who were (like most others) ordinary labourers/ag labs, suddenly gave rise to the mayoress of Ryde, and the private secretary to a former Oz PM. Jon Baker Calne, UK www.vectis10w.freeserve.co.uk ______________________________

Hi All. http://www.lightage.demon.co.uk/ The Black Sheep index is extracted from press reports, 1850-1910 about murder, assault, suicide, accidents, divorce, neglect, etc. Haven't had time to search it much, at a glance it looks like a Lancashire site but there are entries from all over. You will have to pay for any detailed info but worth a look if you haven't seen it already Angela

Give them a hug from us Sharon. I know that this is off topic, but the point of my original message was not only to thank Anne and Les but all the other regulars on the list who help us all out. This list is one of the best as over the past four years I have been on it I have noticed that most people do thank those that have helped in their research. A little thank you for even the tiniest piece of info passed on through the lists goes a long way. And often strikes up a good friendship. The IOW has always been one of my favourite places so this list is a fitting tribute. Chris Hayles (proud to have an Island name) -----Original Message----- From: Sharon Austin [mailto:mamagull@yahoo.com] Sent: 27 August 2004 05:17 To: ISLE-OF-WIGHT-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [IoW] Ann & Les.... I too am another of those that is indebted to Ann and Les; she was researching for me, and at the same time for my Dad's first cousin in Australia. Didn't take long before Ann put the two of us in touch with each other, and my father was absolutely thrilled to know that there were other cousins still floating about this good earth. He had NO idea that his uncle had emigrated to Australia - and so knew nothing of the family living 'down under'. Fortunately, when my husband came up with the idea last spring of me making the trip to the UK this fall, Dad immediately declared that HE would cover the airfare. One small way to thank me for all the cousins I have been digging up. But it is Ann who really deserves the accolades, and I do plan to get together with the Barretts for dinner while I am there. Will take photos, and post them so that not only will we all know of these incredible people, but we'll all be able to put faces to the names! I'm also looking forward to meeting others from this list while I am on the Isle; there are cousins from 2 of the four immediate lines I am researching (SAVAGE and MURSELL - my grandfather's family) still there, and on the mainland grandmother's SHAW and REED family as well. I am looking forward SO MUCH to meeting Ann and Les - will give them hugs from all of you! Sharon in the final countdown stage to departure on Sept 21..... --- All of our outgoing mail is checked and certified Virus Free by regularl updates Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.735 / Virus Database: 489 - Release Date: 06/08/2004

Dear Maryanne In answer to your enquiry on the Woodford/Dyer connection - I only have Woodfords but it may be of help. My Great Great Grandmother Eliza TURNER (nee SMITH - this was her second marriage) married Horatio WOODFORD IN 1867 on the Isle of Wight and they had two children 1. Laura WOODFORD born 30/8/1868 at Ventnor, IoW 2. Mabel WOODFORD born 26/6/1870 at Ventnor, IoW Horatio WOODFORD's parents were Edward born 1804 and Harriet born 1808 and they had two other children that I know of 1.Edward P. WOODFORD born 1841, Newport, IoW 2. Laura WOODFORD born 1843 Newchurch, IoW Horatio was born 1834 at Newport, IoW. As there is such a gap between Horatio and the next child I assume there were other siblings. Eliza SMITH married her first husband, James TURNER, in 1848 at Chorley and they had at least three children 1. James SMITH TURNER born 1852 2. Ellen Mary TURNER born 1854 2. Alice TURNER born 1856 Hoping that this may help you Regards from Toowoomba ( up the hill from you) Christine Mackay christinemackay@optusnet.com.au 27/8/2004

Hello Raine That was a shock, being mentioned on the list . . . bleary eyed and listening to Cbeebies. I simply got carried away and neglected the children . . . . ! Cheers Suzanne

I too am another of those that is indebted to Ann and Les; she was researching for me, and at the same time for my Dad's first cousin in Australia. Didn't take long before Ann put the two of us in touch with each other, and my father was absolutely thrilled to know that there were other cousins still floating about this good earth. He had NO idea that his uncle had emigrated to Australia - and so knew nothing of the family living 'down under'. Fortunately, when my husband came up with the idea last spring of me making the trip to the UK this fall, Dad immediately declared that HE would cover the airfare. One small way to thank me for all the cousins I have been digging up. But it is Ann who really deserves the accolades, and I do plan to get together with the Barretts for dinner while I am there. Will take photos, and post them so that not only will we all know of these incredible people, but we'll all be able to put faces to the names! I'm also looking forward to meeting others from this list while I am on the Isle; there are cousins from 2 of the four immediate lines I am researching (SAVAGE and MURSELL - my grandfather's family) still there, and on the mainland grandmother's SHAW and REED family as well. I am looking forward SO MUCH to meeting Ann and Les - will give them hugs from all of you! Sharon in the final countdown stage to departure on Sept 21..... --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? New and Improved Yahoo! Mail - 100MB free storage!