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    1. Unidentified subject!
    2. Just a note to remind you about the HGS Open Day on 26 September 2004 at Horndean Community School from 10am to 4pm. The HGS AGM will follow at 4.30pm. As well as the usual stands and other Family History Societies, there will be teams from the National Archives and the Family Record Centre in attendance and of course the always popular HGS Research Aids Of interest will be three free lectures :- 11.00 Jeanne Bunting What happens when I die? 13.00 John Hanson Whistle down the Internet - a whistle-stop tour of some sites that you may find of interest 14.30 Audrey Collins Tracing Your Ancestors at the FRC Full details available on the HGS website at www.hgs-online.org.uk but make a note in your diaries now if you are in driving distance of Horndean. Directions: Leave the A3M at Junction 2 and follow the signs for Catherington - cross over 2 roundabouts the main entrance is via Merchinstoun Road. The event is signposted from the road. Look forward to seeing you there Please email if you have any queries - Publicity@hgs-online.org.uk Take care Tony Knight HGS Publicity Officer __________________________________________________________________ Get Tiscali Broadband From £15:99 http://www.tiscali.co.uk/products/broadbandhome/

    09/14/2004 06:13:28
    1. RE: [IoW] GROWING UP IN AUSTRALIA
    2. Ron Cooper
    3. Jean, My Mum grew up in Birmingham and moved to the IOW after her home was bombed in WWII, killing her Dad and two brothers. They were moved to safety to Blackpool, where my grandma was offered work on IOW managing a Guest House in 29 Albert Street, Ventnor. There me Mum met me Dad and the rest is history, so she wrote.... Regards, Ron -----Original Message----- From: Jean Lees [mailto:jean.lees@blueyonder.co.uk] Sent: Monday, September 13, 2004 4:29 AM To: Ron Cooper Subject: RE: [IoW] GROWING UP IN AUSTRALIA Ron what some great memories makes me think back to my childhood. i grew up on the Isle of wight but now live in birmingham ..very different for my kids ,gran kids . Jean -----Original Message----- From: Ron Cooper [mailto:racmcoop@bigpond.net.au] Sent: 12 September 2004 09:19 To: ISLE-OF-WIGHT-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [IoW] GROWING UP IN AUSTRALIA Hi List, This is not quite IOW stuff, but just wanted to share some local memories that were recently shared with me, of which many are probably similar to your own: I'm talking about hide and seek in the park. The corner milk bar, hopscotch, Billy carts, cricket in front of the garbage bin, skipping, handstands, footy on the best lawn in the street, "British bulldog", "1-2-3", "go home stay home", "slip 'n slide", the trampoline with water on it, hula hoops, pogo sticks, stepping in enormous puddles, mud pies and building dams in the gutter. The smell of the sun and fresh cut grass. 'Big bubbles no troubles' with Hubba Bubba(tm) bubble gum. A choc-top Mr Whippy ice cream cone on a warm summers night after, you've chased the truck round the block. When 20 cents worth of mixed lollies was a meal and smoking fags was really cool. Wait: Watching Saturday morning cartoons...short commercials, the Thunderbirds (if you got up reeeally early), the Smurfs, Astro Boy, He-Man, Captain Caveman, Archie, Jem (truly outrageous!!) and heey heey heey it's Fat Albert, or staying up late to sneak a look at the "AO" Movie on the second telly. When around the corner seemed far away and going into town seemed like going somewhere. A million mozzie bites, wasp and bee stings. Sticky fingers. Cops and robbers, cowboys and Indians; riding bikes and catching tadpoles. Marco Polo in the neighbours' pool, drawing all over the road with chalk. Climbing trees and building cubbies out of every sheet your mum had in the cupboard. Walking to school, no matter what the weather. Running till you were out of breath. Laughing so hard that your stomach hurt. Jumping on the bed. Pillow fights. Spinning around, getting dizzy and falling down was cause for the giggles. Being tired from playing... Remember that?????? The worst embarrassment was being picked last for a team. Water balloons were the ultimate weapons. Cricket cards in the spokes transformed any bike into a motorcycle...eating raw jelly, making homemade lemonade and sucking on a Funny Face or red Freeza(tm) icy poles. Remember when... There were only two types of sneakers - girls and boys. Dunlop Volleys with the green 'n' gold or blue and the only time you wore them at school was for "Sports Day." You knew everyone in your street and so did your parents! It wasn't odd to have two or three "best" friends. You didn't sleep a wink on Christmas Eve. When nobody owned a purebred dog. When 50c was decent pocket money. When you'd reach into a muddy gutter for a 10c coin. When nearly everyone's mum was at home when the kids got there from school. When it was considered a great privilege to be taken out to dinner at the local Chinese restaurant with your parents. When any parent could discipline any kid, or feed her or use him to carry groceries and nobody, not even the kid, thought a thing of it. When being sent to the Principal's Office was nothing compared to the fate that awaited a misbehaving student, when he got home. Basically, we were in fear for our lives, but it wasn't because of drive-by shootings, drugs, gangs, etc. Our parents and grandparents were a much bigger threat! Some of us are still afraid of them!!! Didn't that feel good? Just to go back and say, yeah, I remember that! Remember when... Decisions were made by saying, "Eeny-meeny-miney-mo" or scissors-paper-rock. "Race issues" meant arguing about who ran the fastest. Money issues were handled by whoever was the banker in "Monopoly". The worst thing you could catch from the opposite sex was boy-girl, germs, and the worst thing in your day was having to sit next to one. Having a weapon in school meant being caught with a slingshot. Nobody was prettier than your Mum. Scrapes and bruises were kissed and made better. Taking drugs meant orange-flavoured chewable Vitamin C's. Ice cream was considered a basic food group. Going to the beach and catching a wave was a dream come true. Abilities were discovered because of a "double-dare". Older siblings were the worst tormentors, but also the fiercest protectors. If you can remember most of these, then you have LIVED!!! _______________________________

    09/13/2004 06:24:33
    1. New Member - HARRIS
    2. Shirley Camfield
    3. Hi everyone, I am new to this, although not completely new, I have had a break for a while. I am particularly interested in a particular area in Binstead where my great uncle Arthur HARRIS lived in the 40's and 50's (maybe before). He lived in a house called The Bolders, Quarr Road. I dont know what year, but he had it divided into 3 properties. I think one of them is still called The Bolders, and the others are Bolders Leigh and Tower House (I think). After he split them he moved to a house called The Red House and then Seagarth. He was an estate agent in Ryde around that time, he had an office a little way up Union Street (I dont know what it was called). Does any of this mean anything to anyone out there. Any links would be appreciated. I believe he moved to Australia, but I believe he had children, but dont know of them and if they were left behind. Also, does anyone know of an insurance brokers in the High Street in Ryde on the right hand side around the Home Estate Agents area? Best wishes Shirley Camfield Researching : HARRIS; DORE; WHITTINGSTALL; SALTER; CHEFFINS

    09/13/2004 03:37:45
    1. Re: The Computer's Swallowed Grandma!!!
    2. pic
    3. Thanks David Enjoyed it. = = = = = = = = = = = = Pat C., BHCD Quakertown, PA US BLUROC1@worldnet.att.net = = = = = = = = = = = = = Incoming/outgoing mail scanned by Norton 2004 = = = = = = = = = = = = = = ----- Original Message ----- From: David Collyer To: ISLE-OF-WIGHT-L@rootsweb.com Sent: Saturday, September 11, 2004 11:15 AM Subject: The Computer's Swallowed Grandma!!! THE COMPUTER'S SWALLOWED GRANDMA!! The computer's swallowed grandma Yes' honestly' its true She pressed 'control' and 'enter' And disappeared from view. Its devoured her completely The thought just makes me squirm Maybe she's caught a virus Or been eaten by a worm. I've searched through the recycle bin And files of every kind I've even used the internet But nothing did I find. In desperation I asked Jeeves My searches to refine The reply from him was negative Not a thing was found 'online'. So, if inside your 'In Box' My Grandma you should see Please 'Scan', 'Copy' and 'Paste' her In an e-mail back to me David ______________________________

    09/13/2004 01:41:40
    1. 1851 census
    2. gene.rycroft
    3. Hi, Could SKS please lookup the 1851 census for Newchurch, IOW for Kitty Wheeler aged 11. Thanks Gene

    09/12/2004 07:08:27
    1. Re Growing up in Australia
    2. Shaun & Lyn
    3. We also enjoyed Ron Cooper’s article. It’s so strange that we grew up on opposite sides of the world and yet have so many similar happy childhood memories. How old that makes us feel now! Shaun & Lyn Andover Hampshire --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.760 / Virus Database: 509 - Release Date: 9/10/2004

    09/12/2004 03:31:29
    1. GROWING UP IN AUSTRALIA
    2. Ron Cooper
    3. Hi List, This is not quite IOW stuff, but just wanted to share some local memories that were recently shared with me, of which many are probably similar to your own: I'm talking about hide and seek in the park. The corner milk bar, hopscotch, Billy carts, cricket in front of the garbage bin, skipping, handstands, footy on the best lawn in the street, "British bulldog", "1-2-3", "go home stay home", "slip 'n slide", the trampoline with water on it, hula hoops, pogo sticks, stepping in enormous puddles, mud pies and building dams in the gutter. The smell of the sun and fresh cut grass. 'Big bubbles no troubles' with Hubba Bubba(tm) bubble gum. A choc-top Mr Whippy ice cream cone on a warm summers night after, you've chased the truck round the block. When 20 cents worth of mixed lollies was a meal and smoking fags was really cool. Wait: Watching Saturday morning cartoons...short commercials, the Thunderbirds (if you got up reeeally early), the Smurfs, Astro Boy, He-Man, Captain Caveman, Archie, Jem (truly outrageous!!) and heey heey heey it's Fat Albert, or staying up late to sneak a look at the "AO" Movie on the second telly. When around the corner seemed far away and going into town seemed like going somewhere. A million mozzie bites, wasp and bee stings. Sticky fingers. Cops and robbers, cowboys and Indians; riding bikes and catching tadpoles. Marco Polo in the neighbours' pool, drawing all over the road with chalk. Climbing trees and building cubbies out of every sheet your mum had in the cupboard. Walking to school, no matter what the weather. Running till you were out of breath. Laughing so hard that your stomach hurt. Jumping on the bed. Pillow fights. Spinning around, getting dizzy and falling down was cause for the giggles. Being tired from playing... Remember that?????? The worst embarrassment was being picked last for a team. Water balloons were the ultimate weapons. Cricket cards in the spokes transformed any bike into a motorcycle...eating raw jelly, making homemade lemonade and sucking on a Funny Face or red Freeza(tm) icy poles. Remember when... There were only two types of sneakers - girls and boys. Dunlop Volleys with the green 'n' gold or blue and the only time you wore them at school was for "Sports Day." You knew everyone in your street and so did your parents! It wasn't odd to have two or three "best" friends. You didn't sleep a wink on Christmas Eve. When nobody owned a purebred dog. When 50c was decent pocket money. When you'd reach into a muddy gutter for a 10c coin. When nearly everyone's mum was at home when the kids got there from school. When it was considered a great privilege to be taken out to dinner at the local Chinese restaurant with your parents. When any parent could discipline any kid, or feed her or use him to carry groceries and nobody, not even the kid, thought a thing of it. When being sent to the Principal's Office was nothing compared to the fate that awaited a misbehaving student, when he got home. Basically, we were in fear for our lives, but it wasn't because of drive-by shootings, drugs, gangs, etc. Our parents and grandparents were a much bigger threat! Some of us are still afraid of them!!! Didn't that feel good? Just to go back and say, yeah, I remember that! Remember when... Decisions were made by saying, "Eeny-meeny-miney-mo" or scissors-paper-rock. "Race issues" meant arguing about who ran the fastest. Money issues were handled by whoever was the banker in "Monopoly". The worst thing you could catch from the opposite sex was boy-girl, germs, and the worst thing in your day was having to sit next to one. Having a weapon in school meant being caught with a slingshot. Nobody was prettier than your Mum. Scrapes and bruises were kissed and made better. Taking drugs meant orange-flavoured chewable Vitamin C's. Ice cream was considered a basic food group. Going to the beach and catching a wave was a dream come true. Abilities were discovered because of a "double-dare". Older siblings were the worst tormentors, but also the fiercest protectors. If you can remember most of these, then you have LIVED!!! _______________________________

    09/12/2004 12:18:37
    1. Re: [IoW] Article
    2. Hi There, East Texas You might enjoy looking at the archives of the BANBURY list where there have been many such reminiscences recently. One of the listers now runs a website largely devoted to such stories and another is in the process of publishing three volumes of contributed stories in printed form. You will find the Banbury list on _ENG-BANBURY-AREA-L@rootsweb.com_ (mailto:ENG-BANBURY-AREA-L@rootsweb.com) Len

    09/12/2004 10:29:49
    1. Article
    2. Margaret Seehafer
    3. Hi from East Texas, USA... Just wanted to say I thoroughly enjoyed the article by Ron Cooper about growing up in Australia. Although I am unfamiliar with some of the games he mentioned, a number of them sounded familiar from my childhood in Texas, and I suppose ice cream has the same appeal to children all over the world. I would enjoy reading more articles from him.

    09/12/2004 07:55:27
    1. COOPER - KNIGHT - ATTRILL - GOODBODY
    2. Ron Cooper
    3. Dear Valerie, Thank you – you’ve made my day – my year in fact! I’ve been researching the family since 1983 and you are the first person I’ ve ever come across who’s had any knowledge of my COOPER family! Yes, my parents, Fred & Beryl Cooper, lived at Coombe Lodge in Bonchurch. The family migrated from the IOW in 1955, on February 1, 1956 to island #2, Tasmania Australia. Big brother David (by 2 yrs) moved again after Uni to island #3, Kodiak Alaska. Yes, my Dad was a plumber by trade and worked for the Ventnor Council, also helped Tom, (Desmond Thomas W.), HARDING with his building too. Tom HARDING also migrated to Tasmania and sponsored my family. My Dad, Fred, and his older brother Reg in Canada, felt great loss (of the IOW) in later years and along with their elder brother, Harold, they contributed to a newsletter called the MAPLE Society Newsletter, edited by a man called Peter H. GOODBODY, from Southend-on-Sea, Essex back in the late 1980’s. This was filled with snippets of memories of daily IOW life and times. Do you know if it still exists – changed its name or is being run by anyone else? Yes, Ken Knight was the son of William John KNIGHT who owned the library. William John KNIGHT died after 1951 m. 1924 at Newport, Lillian E. O. ATTRILL died bef 1951. After his father’s death, he took over the library and married his wife, Gladys COOPER in 1951. Out of curiosity, what made you remember Fred Cooper and his baby David after all these years? Was it just that he was a dashing young man full of beans about his first bairn – or did something else bring him to mind? Regards, Ron -----Original Message----- From: VALERIEAVRIL@aol.com [mailto:VALERIEAVRIL@aol.com] Sent: Saturday, September 11, 2004 2:36 AM To: racmcoop@bigpond.net.au Subject: Re: [IoW] Accommodation on Isle of Wight & COOPER - FACER - DYER Hello Ron Thank you for your reply,your family names make interesting reading.Did your parents ever live in Bonchurch near the side entrance to the new church.I can remember a Fred Cooper who lived there with a baby son called David,Fred also worked sometimes with my father Fred Beavis who was a builder,we lived in Undermount Lodge opposite. Also was Ken Knight a son of the man who owned Knight's Library the newsagents and book shop? Valerie

    09/11/2004 07:58:45
    1. The Computer's Swallowed Grandma!!!
    2. David Collyer
    3. THE COMPUTER'S SWALLOWED GRANDMA!! The computer's swallowed grandma Yes' honestly' its true She pressed 'control' and 'enter' And disappeared from view. Its devoured her completely The thought just makes me squirm Maybe she's caught a virus Or been eaten by a worm. I've searched through the recycle bin And files of every kind I've even used the internet But nothing did I find. In desperation I asked Jeeves My searches to refine The reply from him was negative Not a thing was found 'online'. So, if inside your 'In Box' My Grandma you should see Please 'Scan', 'Copy' and 'Paste' her In an e-mail back to me David

    09/11/2004 07:15:33
    1. COLLYER-SEMMENS
    2. David Collyer
    3. Dear Friends and Cousins, Further to my earlier email regarding my new gt nephew, I've just had a very apologetic email from my BIL to say it was indeed a typo and the baby's name is:- Isaac Marcel MORONI Regards David in Ballarat

    09/11/2004 06:54:00
    1. [IoW] RE: LAMBRETT in Newport
    2. Julie
    3. From: "Julie" <julie.blissett1@ntlworld.com> To: "Dave Peach" <davepeach@dlpeach.fsnet.co.uk> Sent: Saturday, September 11, 2004 9:23 PM Subject: Re: [IoW] RE: LAMBRETT in Newport Dave, THANK YOU SOOOOO MUCH for this snippet! I really, really appreciate it as it gives me a timeline to work with. I now know she went back to the island after living in Southampton and before she eventually moved up to London. I wonder if there's a lister out there with access to the index for the 1861 census who would be kind enough to check who was living with her at the Crown and Sceptre on Quay Street if she was there in '61? I'd be eternally grateful to know...... Many thanks again, Dave, Julie > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Dave Peach" <davepeach@dlpeach.fsnet.co.uk> > To: "Julie" <julie.blissett1@ntlworld.com> > Sent: Saturday, September 11, 2004 3:49 PM > Subject: Re: [IoW] RE: LAMBRETT in Newport > > > > Hi Julie > > > > 1859 White's Directory shows: > > > > William WHITE, "Wagon and Horses",Crocker St,Newport > > > > Rhoda TUCKER, "Crown and Sceptre" ,Quay St,Newport > > > > No mention of James or Martha LAMBRETT > > > > Regards Dave > > > > > > >

    09/11/2004 06:50:36
    1. TAYLOR in Freshwater/Gosport
    2. Liz Lane
    3. --=======2152688======= Content-Type: text/plain; x-avg-checked=avg-ok-3CBF7553; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Dear List, It's wild and windy here in Sussex - I imagine the same in IOW. Though we can't complain, at least we only get the end of American hurricanes.... In pursuit of my husband's TAYLOR family, from Freshwater - until the 1880s, when they went to Gosport - I have talked again with Chris Great-Aunt Gladys - 91 and in Gosport. I have found Albert Edward TAYLOR (born 1876 in School Green), son of Frank Charles and Mary Ann (Chiverton), his sister Augusta, and their sister Alice Ann. Alice was born in 1869 and died, in Clarendon Terrace of TB in 1881. It seems as if Augusta Caroline (born 1873) later on lived alone in Foxbury, Bridgemary, Gosport, near her family, except when 'Uncle Buff' stayed with her on leave from the Navy. I haven't found any Taylor of this generation born to this couple, apart from the 3 above. And Gladys has no idea what Uncle Buff's proper name was. Is there anyone out there who could throw any light on this? Albert Edward (Gladys's father and Chris's Great-Grandfather) is said to have been in a fight with a man who was paying too much attention to his wife - or maybe girlfriend then - Sarah FRAMPTON, from Christchurch. They married in 1899 in Elson - apparently without the approval of Sarah's family, who thought she was marrying beneath her....... The fight went wrong when the man fell and hit his head, fatally. I have had a few attempts to find any record of this, but not so far. I'd originally been told that it was the reason that the family moved away from Freshwater, but Gladys isn't sure, and I imagine he met Sarah after he moved to Gosport. Anyone else like a mystery? And ......Gladys remembers an Aunty Em(ily) who lived in High St., Freshwater - she kept in touch with Gladys after Sarah died in 1929. She was a Taylor too. If anyone is still listening.......any help/suggestions/ideas/advice much appreciated. Best wishes, Liz Elizabeth Lane liz_lane@ntlworld.com --=======2152688======= Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; x-avg=cert; x-avg-checked=avg-ok-3CBF7553 Content-Disposition: inline --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.744 / Virus Database: 496 - Release Date: 8/24/04 --=======2152688=======--

    09/11/2004 02:12:18
    1. Re: McMullin
    2. Ann Barrett
    3. Hello Max Your MCMULLIN family were all living in the St Marys district of Portsmouth in 1901, perhaps they never returned to the Isle of Wight. You can purchase a copy of the census from the National Archives on line. John MCMULLIN. 55. Naval Pensioner. b. Ireland. Marion MCMULLIN. 50. b.Hampshire. Ernest MCMULLIN. 13. Grocers Asst. b. IOW. ------------------------------------- With regards coastguard cottages at Binstead (Fishbourne), there are a couple of pictures on my website that you are welcome to download if you wish, I am in the midst of this research and will inform you of any relevent information about this particular CG Station. I can also scan and send you a copy of the old map showing their location, if you would contact me off-list. Mac C <maxc30@ceinternet.com.au> wrote: Hullo Listers. I have hit the proverbial wall. John McMullin/McMullen and Mary Ann (Marion). lived in the Coastguard cottage at Binstead in 1881 but when I visited the IOW last year nobody knew of the cottage. best wishes, Ann Barrett. Isle of Wight http://members.lycos.co.uk/s0uthbury/

    09/11/2004 02:10:34
    1. St Thomas' Church Newton
    2. E Macklin
    3. Good morning: Thanks everyone for the great references for pictures of St Thomas' Newton [C of E]. Last question in order to wrap things up:- Q: Any idea as to where I can get a picture of the inside of this church ?? Eric Macklin

    09/11/2004 06:53:30
    1. McMullin/McMullen John and Mary Ann
    2. Mac C
    3. Hullo Listers. I have hit the proverbial wall. John McMullin/McMullen and Mary Ann (Marion) lived in Westbourne,Wooton IOW in 1891 and in 1903 they may have lived in 7 Culver Villas, Victoria Road, Sandown IOW. John was a Coastguardsman born in Ireland. Their children were: Katherine B b c1875 Lymington John Richard b 1876 Lymington William A.T. born Ryde IOW 1888 Ernest born about 1888. In 1901 Ernest was a grocers apprentice in St Marys Parish,Hampshire. In 1891 John was recorded as being the captain of the yacht 'Leas' which he sailed near Fishbourne Creek. John and Mary also lived in the Coastguard cottage at Binstead in 1881 but when I visited the IOW last year nobody knew of the cottage. I can't imagine that they would all leave the IOW. They seem to have disappeared. Hoping SKS can help. Regards, Max Coughlan, Newcastle, Australia

    09/11/2004 06:46:33
    1. COWARD
    2. sally
    3. Hello list, I am hoping someone can help me, I am looking for a marriage of, John COWARD and Sarah ??? abt 1820. In the 1851 census John COWARD (age 52) comes from Dorsetshire but Sarah (age 54) comes from Shorwell, the 7 children I have found for them are all christened in Brixton, starting 1822. Thanks, Sally.

    09/11/2004 03:45:44
    1. Our Latest Addition COLLYER-COOPER-BARTON-MERWOOD etc.
    2. David Collyer
    3. Dear Friends and Cousins, For all those of you who are my cousins, we have a new addition to add to our trees. Yes, I became a Great Uncle for the 2nd time yesterday. Here are the details:- Elspeth Jean SEMMENS (dau of Trevor D. SEMMENS & Raie J. COLLYER) and Edward Simon MORONI had their 1st child:- - Issac Marcel MORONI, b. 10 Sep 2004 Launceston, Tasmania Unfortunately that is NOT a typo, but is the way they are spelling what most of us would write as Isaac. Love David in Ballarat COLLYER-COOPER-BARTON-MERWOOD-MILLMORE-WHILLIER-CONWAY-YOUNG-DORE-WHITTINGTON-BARKHAM-WESTMORE-BAKER-JOLLIFFE-LEIGH-WAY to name a few :)

    09/10/2004 08:04:09
    1. Why we do our family history
    2. David Collyer
    3. Dear Friends, Thought many of you would like this poem Love David in Ballarat My Link in Time By Ann Glasgow >From lands and seas that I shall never know, complex roads have merged their path to me. Translucent threads of ancient lives before interwove this web which is my pedigree. Cultures of many nations formed the loom, and laced the strands of fiber to evolve a potpourri of souls who braved the path of destiny with passion and resolve. And now this fertile ribbon which I weave a plait to braid and join the next in line; people and histories which I may only dream may know about this link in time that's mine.

    09/10/2004 07:42:32