I'm enjoying the snippets very much, and have been stirred into writing to find out if inquests were held in 1803, and do records still exist on the IoW? My g-g-g-g-grandfather was buried at Whippingham July 5 1803, and a note added on the records show that he accidentally drowned. Can anyone advise me where I could look for any further details. Margaret

Hi I’m new to the list and I’m researching my Woolmer ancestors who moved to the island following WW2. I am particularly interested in knowing how I can access newspaper archives for the Island that would cover the period 1948-1953 . I would be most grateful if anyone could advise me where these are stored and how they can be accessed. Regards Liz No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.519 / Virus Database: 269.22.13/1375 - Release Date: 12/04/2008 11:32

Please keep them coming and thanks for doing the work. Regards Ann Spiro Australia [email protected] http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~blacksmiths -------------------------------------------------------- The gene pool could use a little chlorine.? -------------------------------------------------------

Please keep them coming - odd surnames crop up I recognise but so far haven't managed to link them to my motley mob. Beki -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Eve Ward Sent: 11 April 2008 12:28 To: Peter & Angela McMurtry; [email protected] Subject: Re: [IoW] more snippets - Aug 1857 Nor me - I miss them on the days you don't post! Thanks from Eve ----- Original Message ----- From: "Peter & Angela McMurtry" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, April 11, 2008 12:11 PM Subject: [IoW] more snippets - Aug 1857 > Anyone sick of these yet ? > ************************************** You can contact the Isle of Wight List Administrator by emailing: [email protected] ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

We love your snippets, Angela. On this side of the world, they usually give us the first laugh of the day. When I first met my husband, he told me about his IoW ancestors who were really concerned about the narrowness of the island's gene pool. They did something about it by taking soldiers posted at the barracks into haysheds and barns, and having their wicked way with them. Nothing about serial monogomy here; the number of certificates over several generations with "unknown father" is rather high. They were either very successful in their quest, or rather unskilled, depending upon how you look at it! Your delightful stories have not changed my mind about the island's gene pool. Now, given that some of my ancestors decided to go live there as well, what does that say about us all? Catriona in NZ On 12/04/2008, at 12:06 AM, Peter & Angela McMurtry wrote: > If you are missing any ancestors in the census I suggest checking > the mainland gaols ! > Angela > > > 1865 > > Very long article - William HAMMOND and Wm WADHAM , theft of a sack > of barley and a sack of barley meal, the property of George KNIGHT. > Both committed to trial at Winchester sessions. HAMMOND to pay a 100/ > surety and WADHAM 200/ surety. WADHAM had another two more charges > to face and HAMMOND three > > Thomas AYRTON for assaulting Frances PAIN , wife of John PAIN. I > live in Brunswick Rd West Cowes, On Wednesday I was home reading , > defendant opened my door and came in, and abused me very much. I > told him I would have no abusive language , then he kicked me in > the back and it happened three more times. Defendant said - I was at > a neighbours house and complainant came out and abused me and > slapped my face and her husband came and sent her upstairs and > locked her door. Case dismissed > > James BUDDEN of Lymington, Labourer charged by William WILLIAMS , > station master of being drunk and disorderly. Locked up for a week > and cautioned > > James PHILLIPS of Newchurch - poaching fined 5s > > Isaac LOWE of Castle St, East Cowes - beer shop keeper , having his > house open after hours fined 5s > > Edward HOBBS of Freshwater , did not appear. Assault on George > TILLER of Wellow ' He knocked my hat off and slapped my face, he > took hold of me and wanted to fight and he pulled my nose' Fined 2s > and 7s costs :-) > > Thomas HOLBROOK of Forelands - poaching , dismissed due to > insufficient evidence > > William FRY - theft of an umbrella property of Eunice BROOKMAN wife > of John BROOKMAN of Sandown, committed to trial > > Lavinia WHITINGTON age 17, an unfortunate, charges with being drunk > and disorderly in the street. Made no defence. Fined 5s and costs or > 7 days in prison. She went below > > > 1867 > Bankrupts - Edwin WINSON, tea dealer of West St, Newport. Protection > given until August > > George CORKE of West Cowes, butcher ( maybe he wouldn't have gone > bankrupt if he had spent more time at work and less time in the > courts -Angela) 286/ Creditors Mr Jacobs, Mr Hallett, Mr Taylor, Mr > Blake, Mr Paul, Mr Selby. Attributed his insolvency to pressure of > creditors, insufficiency of capital and losses in business and > illness in his family. > > Henry and William CORREY - sleeping in a loft at night, at St Johns > without permission. Youngest boy had been charged previously with > stealing apples. From enquiries made the poor lads had been turned > out by their parents to seek the best shelter the could. Cautioned > > James THORNE and Sarah YELF, a prostitute were charged with being > drunk and riotous on Sunday last in the street. THORNE fined 5s and > 7s costs - paid. YELF was fined same or in default to be set in the > stocks at Newport, allowed one week to pay. > > Mr James DENHAM the landlord of the New Inn and Norton Green , was > pitched over his horses head and fell on his face, which is > dreadfully cut > > James CASSFORD , a well known character who has upwards of 50 times > been committed to Winchester for drunkenness again charged and fined > 40s or 6 months in Winchester ' we need hardly say that he was > removed to his old quarters at Winchester' > > Fatal accident - Body of Fred MUNT a 1 year old boy, son of William > MUNT, postman for Shalfleet. Little lad was drowned in the mill dyke > on the previous Saturday. Little fellow drowned when he knocked his > cap in to the water and stooped down to pick it up losing his > balance. Witness was a little girl Harriet White who was playing > with him. > > John HILL of Newport - for abandoning his daughter 11 months ago , > she is now being maintained by Guardians of Poor, 3 months in > Winchester House of Correction > > Mrs A RACKETT & Mrs BRAMBLE - assault on Jane STRONG with a stick. > Mrs Racketts husband was bound over for his wife in the sum of 10/ > to keep the peace for 6m > > Henry HANN or East Cowes for maliciously killing a dog. Fined 2s 5/, > the value of the dog plus 5s in costs > > Richard YOUNG, drunk in the street Friday night , George YOUNG > similar offence > > John MATTHEWS , a carpenter of Carisbrooke assault on John JONES . > Fined 5s and 5s in costs > > James WEARNE, a cab driver, guilty to disorderly conduct on the > Esplanade Ryde ehilstin charge of a cab. > > Robert RAYNER - obscene language on the Esplanade Ryde fined 5s and > 5s costs > > Edwin JAMES- assault on Jane SIVIER.States his name was wrongly > stated and it's Edward CROUCH. The complainant says she lives in > Player St. her children were playing in the garden and one of them > took up a piece of dirt and threw it. It struck defendant on hand. > he attempted to beat the child and she interfered. he used very bad > language and shook his fist in her face and shook her. Bench > commented ' he had 'great provocation' and was dismissed > > > > > > > > > All mail scanned with AVAST 2007 > No trees were killed in the sending of this message, > but a large number of electrons were terribly inconvenienced > > > > ************************************** > You can contact the Isle of Wight List Administrator by emailing: > [email protected] > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] > with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and > the body of the message Catriona and Bruce Williamson [email protected]

If you are missing any ancestors in the census I suggest checking the mainland gaols ! Angela 1865 Very long article - William HAMMOND and Wm WADHAM , theft of a sack of barley and a sack of barley meal, the property of George KNIGHT. Both committed to trial at Winchester sessions. HAMMOND to pay a 100/surety and WADHAM 200/ surety. WADHAM had another two more charges to face and HAMMOND three Thomas AYRTON for assaulting Frances PAIN , wife of John PAIN. I live in Brunswick Rd West Cowes, On Wednesday I was home reading , defendant opened my door and came in, and abused me very much. I told him I would have no abusive language , then he kicked me in the back and it happened three more times. Defendant said - I was at a neighbours house and complainant came out and abused me and slapped my face and her husband came and sent her upstairs and locked her door. Case dismissed James BUDDEN of Lymington, Labourer charged by William WILLIAMS , station master of being drunk and disorderly. Locked up for a week and cautioned James PHILLIPS of Newchurch - poaching fined 5s Isaac LOWE of Castle St, East Cowes - beer shop keeper , having his house open after hours fined 5s Edward HOBBS of Freshwater , did not appear. Assault on George TILLER of Wellow ' He knocked my hat off and slapped my face, he took hold of me and wanted to fight and he pulled my nose' Fined 2s and 7s costs :-) Thomas HOLBROOK of Forelands - poaching , dismissed due to insufficient evidence William FRY - theft of an umbrella property of Eunice BROOKMAN wife of John BROOKMAN of Sandown, committed to trial Lavinia WHITINGTON age 17, an unfortunate, charges with being drunk and disorderly in the street. Made no defence. Fined 5s and costs or 7 days in prison. She went below 1867 Bankrupts - Edwin WINSON, tea dealer of West St, Newport. Protection given until August George CORKE of West Cowes, butcher ( maybe he wouldn't have gone bankrupt if he had spent more time at work and less time in the courts -Angela) 286/ Creditors Mr Jacobs, Mr Hallett, Mr Taylor, Mr Blake, Mr Paul, Mr Selby. Attributed his insolvency to pressure of creditors, insufficiency of capital and losses in business and illness in his family. Henry and William CORREY - sleeping in a loft at night, at St Johns without permission. Youngest boy had been charged previously with stealing apples. From enquiries made the poor lads had been turned out by their parents to seek the best shelter the could. Cautioned James THORNE and Sarah YELF, a prostitute were charged with being drunk and riotous on Sunday last in the street. THORNE fined 5s and 7s costs - paid. YELF was fined same or in default to be set in the stocks at Newport, allowed one week to pay. Mr James DENHAM the landlord of the New Inn and Norton Green , was pitched over his horses head and fell on his face, which is dreadfully cut James CASSFORD , a well known character who has upwards of 50 times been committed to Winchester for drunkenness again charged and fined 40s or 6 months in Winchester ' we need hardly say that he was removed to his old quarters at Winchester' Fatal accident - Body of Fred MUNT a 1 year old boy, son of William MUNT, postman for Shalfleet. Little lad was drowned in the mill dyke on the previous Saturday. Little fellow drowned when he knocked his cap in to the water and stooped down to pick it up losing his balance. Witness was a little girl Harriet White who was playing with him. John HILL of Newport - for abandoning his daughter 11 months ago , she is now being maintained by Guardians of Poor, 3 months in Winchester House of Correction Mrs A RACKETT & Mrs BRAMBLE - assault on Jane STRONG with a stick. Mrs Racketts husband was bound over for his wife in the sum of 10/ to keep the peace for 6m Henry HANN or East Cowes for maliciously killing a dog. Fined 2s 5/, the value of the dog plus 5s in costs Richard YOUNG, drunk in the street Friday night , George YOUNG similar offence John MATTHEWS , a carpenter of Carisbrooke assault on John JONES . Fined 5s and 5s in costs James WEARNE, a cab driver, guilty to disorderly conduct on the Esplanade Ryde ehilstin charge of a cab. Robert RAYNER - obscene language on the Esplanade Ryde fined 5s and 5s costs Edwin JAMES- assault on Jane SIVIER.States his name was wrongly stated and it's Edward CROUCH. The complainant says she lives in Player St. her children were playing in the garden and one of them took up a piece of dirt and threw it. It struck defendant on hand. he attempted to beat the child and she interfered. he used very bad language and shook his fist in her face and shook her. Bench commented ' he had 'great provocation' and was dismissed All mail scanned with AVAST 2007 No trees were killed in the sending of this message, but a large number of electrons were terribly inconvenienced

Glad you are all amused :-) I think so far William Groves taks the cake for being the most interesting character .. One thing I have noticed - there are quite a few people on this List who don't know there are others researching the same surnames. I have put several people in touch with each other. Maybe some of our newer members would like to post some surname interests? Angela All mail scanned with AVAST 2007 No trees were killed in the sending of this message, but a large number of electrons were terribly inconvenienced

My thanks to Ann, Joan, April, Audrey, Eve, Judi and Bob for responding. I think I am back on track now although I am still trying to find out how to access ARCHIVES to see what I missed from 12 March onward. Audrey and Judi, you had a point - a sudden onslaught of Spam filled up all the space allowed by my server. To date I had elected to have the filtered Spam retained for 10 days and then automatically deleted. Till recently this has been quite adequate. I found over 500 spam e-mails had arrived within the preceding 10 days. Unfortunately my server's system does not have a "Select all / delete" capability so I deleted a couple of hundred page by page. I also reduced the number of days for spam retention to 3. Janet I replied to your message dtd. 06/04 but it was returned by my server: "<[email protected]>: Sorry, I couldn't find any host named tiscali. (#5.1.2)" Terence

Anyone sick of these yet ? Aug 1857 Ben JUPE, the cook at Parkhurst Prison was charged with assaulting Charlotte the wife of George ASH of Gunville. The complainant proved that her husband & the defendant were at high words, when the latter ground his teeth, flung the cap in her face and left marks there. All the females in the family corroborated the statement, but one of the male members of the family Henry ASH, who appeared to be one a rather cooler temperament declined to swear it was intentional assault, (long article). Conflict arose out of theft of some money, court dismissed the charge and advised the parties to go home and live more harmoniously . John DENHAM - Nelson Inn , Open after hours Elizabeth RIDINGS - theft of wearing apparel , remanded Cowes - Our hotel and lodgings houses are full and will continue most probably for the short term, but the ' good old times' when beds were a guinea per night will never again return All mail scanned with AVAST 2007 No trees were killed in the sending of this message, but a large number of electrons were terribly inconvenienced

/*Aug 1857 Cowes - Our hotel and lodgings houses are full and will continue most probably for the short term, but the ' good old times' when beds were a guinea per night will never again return*/ I was quite intrigued by the above statement - beds a guinea per night....in 1857?? Surely that was very, very expensive? I remember in the early 70s (1970s, that is, in case anyone wonders!) staying in (admittedly cheap) b&bs in Brighton, which were 10/- to a pound for a night, depending on quality. But in my 1962 Hampstead directory, the Clive Hall Hotel advertised bed and breakfast from 21/-. That's about a 100 years later, and you can still get a bed for a guinea a night even in upmarket Hampstead! Linda >

Sick of them? Most definitely not! They are entertaining as well as giving us an insight into the lives of our forebears. I keep hoping that you will have found some of 'mine' but mine were from an earlier period. The amazing thing is that this information has travelled such a long way. Some time I will post my interests. Then, if anyone has the same names, I will send them the transcripts I have done. Regards to all, Anne Vinnicombe ======================================== Message Received: Apr 11 2008, 12:12 PM From: "Peter & Angela McMurtry" To: [email protected] Cc: Subject: [IoW] more snippets - Aug 1857 Anyone sick of these yet ? Aug 1857 Ben JUPE, the cook at Parkhurst Prison was charged with assaulting Charlotte the wife of George ASH of Gunville. The complainant proved that her husband & the defendant were at high words, when the latter ground his teeth, flung the cap in her face and left marks there. All the females in the family corroborated the statement, but one of the male members of the family Henry ASH, who appeared to be one a rather cooler temperament declined to swear it was intentional assault, (long article). Conflict arose out of theft of some money, court dismissed the charge and advised the parties to go home and live more harmoniously . John DENHAM - Nelson Inn , Open after hours Elizabeth RIDINGS - theft of wearing apparel , remanded Cowes - Our hotel and lodgings houses are full and will continue most probably for the short term, but the ' good old times' when beds were a guinea per night will never again return All mail scanned with AVAST 2007 No trees were killed in the sending of this message, but a large number of electrons were terribly inconvenienced ************************************** You can contact the Isle of Wight List Administrator by emailing: [email protected] ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Yes,please Angela. The snippets are so interesting. I read them to my husband who is virtually blind as he enjoys them just as much. Any day I expect to see my namesake from the Island mentioned. April nee MORRIS

I started out searching for something else and found some names mentioned in recent e-mails and kept finding sites that might interest. http://www.robsfamilyhistory.co.uk/Hayles%20Family%20Tree.pdf http://www.roll-of-honour.com/Hampshire/ArretonIOW.html http://www.isle-of-wight-memorials.org.uk/towns/ventnorwm.htm The London Gazette is the place to advertise Notices recognised by the Courts. http://www.gazettes-online.co.uk/searchresults.aspx?geotype=London&all=Isle+of+Wight&st=basic Just type in names of interest and see what you find. http://www.county-surnames.co.uk/list.php?county=Isle%20of%20Wight http://www.isle-of-wight-fhs.co.uk/jm/onename.htm Janet

Do keep them coming Angela. I read them to my husband every time. He is virtually blind. It helps his day along. I specially look for the Morris name but it looks as though they have behaved themselves---so far. April

What a great story - thank you! William is one of the most common first names in the GROVES family (and in many other families, I know!). From my own limited information of the GROVES family, I can see two "possibles", who were born in the 1840s. The most likely by far would be William Groves, who was born in Freshwater in 1841 and died 1866. In 1861 census he was a "Prisoner in custody" in Newport police station, so no stranger to the law in 1864. No mention of him being a mariner, but many Freshwater GROVES were, including my own ancestors. The other "possible" was born in 1843 in Newport and became a Wesleyan minister - not so likely, perhaps! Susan.

Nor me - I miss them on the days you don't post! Thanks from Eve ----- Original Message ----- From: "Peter & Angela McMurtry" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, April 11, 2008 12:11 PM Subject: [IoW] more snippets - Aug 1857 > Anyone sick of these yet ? >

Hi Susan If you have links with GROVES in Freshwater, do you have any link with a Mary GROVES who married William RAN(N) on 28 Mar 1803 in Arreton. William was born in Freshwater, but they moved on towards Newport over the next few years, so Mary may not be one of yours - thought I'd ask. While mentioning GROVES, I've also got George Albert GROVES born 1875 in Carisbrooke who married Alice Eleanor RANN on 08 Aug 1899 in Carisbrooke. Any link - happy to swap info. (but will be off-line until late tomorrow as have to go 'up North' briefly - and I don't mean North Devon!) Kate in sunny Devon, UK seeking my RANNcestors -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Susan Johnstone Sent: 11 April 2008 12:29 To: 'Peter & Angela McMurtry'; [email protected] Subject: Re: [IoW] William GROVES runs off with married woman What a great story - thank you! William is one of the most common first names in the GROVES family (and in many other families, I know!). From my own limited information of the GROVES family, I can see two "possibles", who were born in the 1840s. The most likely by far would be William Groves, who was born in Freshwater in 1841 and died 1866. In 1861 census he was a "Prisoner in custody" in Newport police station, so no stranger to the law in 1864. No mention of him being a mariner, but many Freshwater GROVES were, including my own ancestors. The other "possible" was born in 1843 in Newport and became a Wesleyan minister - not so likely, perhaps! Susan. ************************************** You can contact the Isle of Wight List Administrator by emailing: [email protected] ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

No, not me! What is more, they'll be on the archive for anyone searching for particular names in the future. Thanks Angela - you're doing a brilliant job :-) Shouldn't you be in bed at this time of day/night? Kate -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Peter & Angela McMurtry Sent: 11 April 2008 12:11 To: [email protected] Subject: [IoW] more snippets - Aug 1857 Anyone sick of these yet ? Aug 1857 Ben JUPE, the cook at Parkhurst Prison was charged with assaulting Charlotte the wife of George ASH of Gunville. The complainant proved that her husband & the defendant were at high words, when the latter ground his teeth, flung the cap in her face and left marks there. All the females in the family corroborated the statement, but one of the male members of the family Henry ASH, who appeared to be one a rather cooler temperament declined to swear it was intentional assault, (long article). Conflict arose out of theft of some money, court dismissed the charge and advised the parties to go home and live more harmoniously . John DENHAM - Nelson Inn , Open after hours Elizabeth RIDINGS - theft of wearing apparel , remanded Cowes - Our hotel and lodgings houses are full and will continue most probably for the short term, but the ' good old times' when beds were a guinea per night will never again return All mail scanned with AVAST 2007 No trees were killed in the sending of this message, but a large number of electrons were terribly inconvenienced ************************************** You can contact the Isle of Wight List Administrator by emailing: [email protected] ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Not related to the IOW but what a laugh ! Angela 1820 a man testified at Warwick Assizes that a ghost of a murdered man had told him the killer' s name. The accused was brought to trial and the judge summoned the ghost , who failed to appear. The accused was acquitted and later the witness confessed to the crime. All mail scanned with AVAST 2007 No trees were killed in the sending of this message, but a large number of electrons were terribly inconvenienced

Thanks Bob, I'll give that a go. Jenny