Hi Karen I can see the John Matthias Jones on both FreeBMD and on the Isle of Wight Family History Society site at... http://www.isle-of-wight-fhs.co.uk/ death shown as 1879 on the island. I then did a quick search for John on the 1871 census. There is a Johns Jones shown as lodger living in Wickham, Hampshire, born about 1810, working as a Carpenter and Joiner, married, born Fishguard, Pembroke. I know that John Jones is a very common name, especially in Wales, but could this be your man? What is shown as his job on the earlier census returns? If it is him, then it could well be that he carried on moving around in search of work and ended up on the island. Hopefully the death certificate will throw some light on this. Kate in Devon, UK seeking my RANNcestors -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of John Dunstone Sent: 10 June 2008 23:48 To: [email protected] Subject: [IoW] Jones Hi All I am new to this list having just found a sliver of the brick wall I am trying to crack. Hopefully someone on this list can help me. I am looking for my GGG Grandfather, John Matthias Jones born abt 1809. According to his marriage certificate he was born in Carmarthen Wales but there is no record of this as yet. He married Ann Maria Allchin in London in 1846 and had 2 children - Ann Maria born 1846 and Christopher Thomas born 1847. There is no record of the family in the 1851 census. In the 1861 census Ann and her daughter Ann are listed as living with Ann's father at his pub in London. John & Christopher are boarding in London. After that there are no records of John or Christopher until Christopher shows up in Australia in 1879. I have just located a John Matthias Jones on the FreeBMD and am awaiting the death certificate from the GRO, but am hoping that someone may know of him and if he may have divorced Ann and remarried. I would be grateful for any help. Thanks Karen Ipswich Queensland Australia ************************************** You can contact the Isle of Wight List Administrator by emailing: [email protected] ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi All I am new to this list having just found a sliver of the brick wall I am trying to crack. Hopefully someone on this list can help me. I am looking for my GGG Grandfather, John Matthias Jones born abt 1809. According to his marriage certificate he was born in Carmarthen Wales but there is no record of this as yet. He married Ann Maria Allchin in London in 1846 and had 2 children - Ann Maria born 1846 and Christopher Thomas born 1847. There is no record of the family in the 1851 census. In the 1861 census Ann and her daughter Ann are listed as living with Ann's father at his pub in London. John & Christopher are boarding in London. After that there are no records of John or Christopher until Christopher shows up in Australia in 1879. I have just located a John Matthias Jones on the FreeBMD and am awaiting the death certificate from the GRO, but am hoping that someone may know of him and if he may have divorced Ann and remarried. I would be grateful for any help. Thanks Karen Ipswich Queensland Australia

that's very generous of you, Auntie P. I tried to contact you privately, but the email wasn't able to go thru' to you. I have an aunt and cousin and family living on the IOW, but it's many years since I was there. best wishes, Alandra, British Columbia, Canada http://www.thelensflare.com/artist/alandrapal ----- Original Message ----- From: "Auntie P" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, June 09, 2008 4:16 PM Subject: [IoW] Pyle Street and more ... > Just wanted to say a big thank you to everyone who has contacted me with > information on Pyle Street, Newport. Most helpful. I'm sure I'll be > asking more questions as my research continues. > > I thought that, as I am so often out and about with my camera, maybe I > could offer to take photographs of any buildings relevant to the > research of those of you who are not on or near the Isle of Wight. > Newport is the easiest for me but I would be happy to venture further > (as I often do) - but you might have to wait a little longer for those > photos. > > If you think I can help, just mail me. :-) > > P > > ************************************** > You can contact the Isle of Wight List Administrator by emailing: > [email protected] > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Just wanted to say a big thank you to everyone who has contacted me with information on Pyle Street, Newport. Most helpful. I'm sure I'll be asking more questions as my research continues. I thought that, as I am so often out and about with my camera, maybe I could offer to take photographs of any buildings relevant to the research of those of you who are not on or near the Isle of Wight. Newport is the easiest for me but I would be happy to venture further (as I often do) - but you might have to wait a little longer for those photos. If you think I can help, just mail me. :-) P

This isn't related to the IOW but I am hoping someone can help me. One of my ancestors in Norfolk died in 1630 leaving a will , he left 5 blocks of houses in Great Yarmouth to his children and 7 different people got 40 shillings as did the local hospital , the poor of the parish and the local church. Now a cousin of mine thinks he may have been a shoemaker, I have never come across a shoemaker that wealthy .. so yes or no ? Could it be done then ? Angela in OZ Never try to teach a pig to sing; it wastes your time and it annoys the pig. All mail scanned with AVAST 2008 No trees were killed in the sending of this message, but a large number of electrons were terribly inconvenienced

Parish Clerk was a person designated to assist in various church duties (Church of E) Purely ecclesiastical. Angela in Oz

Hello Everyone Does anyone know if there is a readily accessible transcript of the Northwood Parish Registers. I have been looking at various websites and have seen all sorts of CDs and subscriptions available and wondered if anyone had been down this road before and could save me re-inventing the wheel. I am fairly close to a LDS Family History Center (Cheltenham) so could order in the microfilms I suppose. Just thought there might be a searchable site with this information on which someone may know of. Any advice on subscriptions, which CD to but very gratefully received. Thanks in advance. Steve Harrison (researching Hollises).

John I cannot be sure, especially as your query is related to London which is treated differently, but I would think the occupation of Parish Clerk in 1881 would refer to the ecclesiastical parish. Although ecclesiastical parishes had local government functions, the civil parish that we know today was largely the result of the 1894 Local Government Act. Thus after 1894 there would be a role of Clerk to the Parish Council, which would mean the civil parish as well as the role of the Parish Clerk (related to the Church). A couple of references that might help: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Civil_parish http://steve.pickthall.users.btopenworld.com/pci/index.html Hope this helps Jon Baker John Attrill wrote: Can someone please tell me whether an occupation of "Parish Clerk" on the Family Search site 1881 Census would relate to an occupation in the Church or Local Authority or Parish Council perhaps for someone on my family living in Lambeth London at that time in his 50's. Since some occupations are not clear as to which profession a parish clerk involved in the 1880's I hope somebody would perhaps enlighten me? This man was also formerly a Verger so could be Church - but how would I find this out? Hope somebody out there can help me....?

Hello all Listers Can someone please tell me whether an occupation of "Parish Clerk" on the Family Search site 1881 Census would relate to an occupation in the Church or Local Authority or Parish Council perhaps for someone on my family living in Lambeth London at that time in his 50's. Since some occupations are not clear as to which profession a parish clerk involved in the 1880's I hope somebody would perhaps enlighten me? This man was also formerly a Verger so could be Church - but how would I find this out? Hope somebody out there can help me....? John Attrill IOW _________________________________________________________________ All new Live Search at Live.com http://clk.atdmt.com/UKM/go/msnnkmgl0010000006ukm/direct/01/

I was too quick to send my previous message. I had intended also asking whether there is any site that I could go to which lists graveyards and cemeteries on the Island and the year they were first used? Evelyn

Dear Listers, I have been puzzling as to where family members were buried. I have recently been combing through a film of Newchurch Registers and wondered at what period of time the graveyard there was no longer used. With some family members the helpful Record Office Card Index records for some burials a Section and Grave No. in the 18th & 19th century. Would the graveyard be marked out in this manner or were these people buried in a cemetery? Is there any way that one can say when doing research at such a distance whether the burial was in a cemetery or graveyard? Evelyn >From a cool damp Sydney

Hi Everyone Very many thanks to Janet,Vanessa,Mike,& Sandra,for their help in my research for G W CREETH Niton info. After many days I found that I was chasing up my gtgrandfather's 2nd cousin,of the same name from Yarmouth. Back to the drawingboard. All we have to go on is a small photo circa 1912 of him sitting in army uniform at the door of their home in Niton. Does anyone know if there was a "HOMEGUARD or !!Dads Army!!" ???? in the early 1900s for Isle-of-Wight? Regards Heather FORSTER NZ Send instant messages to your online friends http://au.messenger.yahoo.com

I've only got one LANE on my tree- SARAH LANE b 1814 Cowes. Angela

Angela Do you know who Sarah's parents were? She could have been a sister of Richard b. 1812. I have just been given the information that his parents were John & Sarah Lane. regards Gill -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.524 / Virus Database: 269.24.6/1484 - Release Date: 04/06/2008 16:40

I have a Path but no LANE to my tree . Sorry grin Lesley : ) -----Original Message----- From: Peter & Angela McMurtry I've only got one LANE on my tree- SARAH LANE b 1814 Cowes. Angela

Just to put my bit in I have a small number of LANES that connected into my tree: Descendants of Henry LANE ------------------------- 1-Henry LANE b. Abt 1818, Isle Of Wight, Arreton +Mary ??? b. Abt 1829, Isle Of Wight, Brading |--2-Ann LANE b. Abt 1858, Isle Of Wight, Arreton |--2-Mariah LANE b. Abt 1863, Isle Of Wight, Arreton |--2-Sarah LANE b. Abt 1865, Isle Of Wight, Arreton |--2-William LANE b. Abt 1866, Isle Of Wight, Arreton |--2-Charles LANE b. Abt 1867, Isle Of Wight, Arreton | +Mary Jane CHESSELL b. Bef Mar 1873, Isle Of Wight, Oakfield, m. Bef Jun | 1895, par. James CHESSELL and Frances Jane SYMMONS | |--3-Dorothy May LANE b. Bef Dec 1897, Isle Of Wight, Wootton |--2-Alfred LANE b. Abt 1870, Isle Of Wight, Arreton Descendants of William LANE --------------------------- 1-William LANE +Jane JOLLIFFE |--2-William Rufus LANE b. Bef Jun 1859, Isle Of Wight, Ryde | +Hannah Maria FRY b. Abt 1860, m. 24 Dec 1878, d. 1884 | +Sarah HARVEY b. Bef Jun 1860, Isle Of Wight, St Helens, m. Bef Sep 1885, | Isle Of Wight, St Helens, par. George HARVEY and Ann CHESSELL | |--3-Kate LANE b. 22 Jan 1886 | |--3-William G. LANE b. 17 May 1889, Isle Of Wight, East Cowes | |--3-Emily L. LANE b. 19 Sep 1890, Isle Of Wight, East Cowes | |--3-Tom E. LANE b. 24 Feb 1893, Isle Of Wight, East Cowes | |--3-Hilda E. LANE b. 12 Jan 1895, Isle Of Wight, East Cowes | |--3-Roger Samuel LANE b. 16 Mar 1897, Isle Of Wight, East Cowes | |--3-Rufus LANE b. 14 Jan 1900 | |--3-Ruby LANE b. 1 Feb 1902 | |--3-Daisy Cora LANE b. Abt 1904, Isle Of Wight, Cowes |--2-Fred LANE b. Abt 1855, Isle Of Wight, Ryde |--2-Samuel LANE b. Abt 1857, Isle Of Wight, Ryde |--2-Kate LANE b. Abt 1862, Isle Of Wight, Ryde |--2-George LANE b. Abt 1864, Isle Of Wight, Ryde |--2-Emily LANE b. Abt 1867, Isle Of Wight, Ryde Hope those also belong to someone with a better connection! Becky Hastings,UK

Hi Gill, Your Richard Lane was baptised in Norwood (West Cowes) 28 Jun 1812, the son of John and Sarah LANE. Hope this helps Sandra ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gill Jones" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, June 04, 2008 3:36 PM Subject: [IoW] Lane family line > Deborah > Thanks for responding to my query regarding the Lane family of the IOW. > I have met a brick wall with my gggrandfather Richard Lane. He was born > abt. 1812 supposedly in W.Cowes but I have not found any reference so > far to his parents. > Every census records his birthplace as W.Cowes but I did find on IGI a > Richard Dickenson Lane b. 21/2/1812 of Narcissus Hampshire ... a ship of > that name was in Portsmouth harbour about that time.... but I haven't > been able to find a definte link with this entry to my own family. I > have also found a George Lane bap. Portsea 8/12/1806 - parents Henry & > Harriet but again no definite connection although all three of these > names recur in my family line. > Here's what I do know; > *Richard Lane* mar. Mary Ann Storey in Northwood IOW 1836. Their > children were: > Sarah Ann b.1838; *William* (my ggrandfather) b.1840; Harriet b.1843; > George Henry b.1845; Walter b.1847. all born in Northwood. > *William *mar. Elizabeth Harding Warne in Northwood in 1863. Their > children were:- > Mary Ann Elizabeth b.1864 W.Cowes > *William Richard Henry* (my grandfather) b. 1868 W.Cowes > Ada Harriet b. 1870 W.Cowes > Alice Eugenie b. 1872 W.Cowes > Newton Walter b. 1874 Alverstoke, Gosport > Walter George b.1881 Alverstoke. > I have not come across Martha Lane d/o William & Elizabeth. Where did > they live on the Island? Any help in discovering Richard Lane's origins > would be gratefully received. > regards > Gill > No virus found in this outgoing message. > Checked by AVG. > Version: 7.5.524 / Virus Database: 269.24.6/1482 - Release Date: > 04/06/2008 07:10 > > ************************************** > You can contact the Isle of Wight List Administrator by emailing: > [email protected] > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG. Version: 8.0.100 / Virus Database: 269.24.6/1482 - Release Date: 04/06/2008 07:10

Deborah Thanks for responding to my query regarding the Lane family of the IOW. I have met a brick wall with my gggrandfather Richard Lane. He was born abt. 1812 supposedly in W.Cowes but I have not found any reference so far to his parents. Every census records his birthplace as W.Cowes but I did find on IGI a Richard Dickenson Lane b. 21/2/1812 of Narcissus Hampshire ... a ship of that name was in Portsmouth harbour about that time.... but I haven't been able to find a definte link with this entry to my own family. I have also found a George Lane bap. Portsea 8/12/1806 - parents Henry & Harriet but again no definite connection although all three of these names recur in my family line. Here's what I do know; *Richard Lane* mar. Mary Ann Storey in Northwood IOW 1836. Their children were: Sarah Ann b.1838; *William* (my ggrandfather) b.1840; Harriet b.1843; George Henry b.1845; Walter b.1847. all born in Northwood. *William *mar. Elizabeth Harding Warne in Northwood in 1863. Their children were:- Mary Ann Elizabeth b.1864 W.Cowes *William Richard Henry* (my grandfather) b. 1868 W.Cowes Ada Harriet b. 1870 W.Cowes Alice Eugenie b. 1872 W.Cowes Newton Walter b. 1874 Alverstoke, Gosport Walter George b.1881 Alverstoke. I have not come across Martha Lane d/o William & Elizabeth. Where did they live on the Island? Any help in discovering Richard Lane's origins would be gratefully received. regards Gill No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.524 / Virus Database: 269.24.6/1482 - Release Date: 04/06/2008 07:10

Danny I had to send to the list as it keeps getting returned Lesley -----Original Message----- Lesley Awww its not my surname I'm afraid, I just looked it up for someone. If you need help though just ask .Lesley : ) -----Original Message----- From: Daniel Gannon Dear Lesley, Have you traced the VARCOE Surname from Cornwall to NY..and then on into Canada..and then back to NY State? Myself and two other researchers are working on the HEDDEN Surname of Devon and Cornwall..and the Isle of Wight..and we have HEDDEN's marrying VARCOE's,both in Canada and in NY State. We are trying to find the county in England where these families originated..and when we see the two surnames appearing in a location in the old country..we investigate. I look forward to hearing from you. My kindest regards to you from Charleston,SC, Danny Ginnane-Gannon ----- Original Message ----- From: "LiverpoolLady" <[email protected]> To: "ISLE-OF-WIGHT-" <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, May 26, 2008 5:16 AM Subject: Re: [IoW] VARCOE > Hope this is of some help. Lesley > > Birth. > GREGORY, Alfred, Thomas, Henry 1864 mother VARCOE Ryde R24/P37 > Marriage GREGORY, Alfred 1863 All Saints, Newchurch COE27.3/127 > VARCOE, Annie > > -----Original Message----- > From: Paul Mason > > Hello, > I am tracing an Annie/Ann VARCOE born around 1833 Ryde who married in > 1863 All Saints Newchurch an Alfred GREGORY born 1831 Does anyone have > any information on Annie/Ann. > I have found the name VARCOE in Cornwall but not on the Island in 1841 > or > 1851 Thank You Angela in Gloucestershire No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG. Version: 8.0.100 / Virus Database: 269.24.6/1482 - Release Date: 6/4/2008 7:10 AM