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    1. Re: [IoW] INNS
    2. Ros Fletcher
    3. Hi Everyone, It has been pointed out to me that the book "The Pubs of Ryde" is by Kevin Mitchell and is, of course, subject to copyright. I should not therefore "share" my copies. They were obtained from a friend of Kevin's who did some of the research and who only allowed me to photograph pages from the book as it was out of print at the time. I think they were hoping to reprint it and I would definitely purchase a copy if it is available again. I do so apologise to anyone who has been offended by my thoughtless offer. The website is great! Regards .............. Ros. On 17/07/2008, at 2:14 AM, Ann Ryder wrote: > Web page "The Pubs of Ryde" < > http://www.insula.vecta.btinternet.co.uk/RP1.html > > Ann > > > > ************************************** > You can contact the Isle of Wight List Administrator by emailing: > [email protected] > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ISLE-OF-WIGHT- > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message

    07/17/2008 04:07:08
    1. Re: [IoW] Hampshire Telegraph Aug 27 1864
    2. D & E
    3. Good Morning everyone. On the subject of pubs on the Island, have many of you heard of 'Wightwash'? This is a Camra publication for the Isle of Wight and is a pretty good read -quarterly. A friend of mine, Tim Marshall, is the editor and I have to say it is very informative. Their archives, I'm sure, could supply those of you who are interested, with a wealth of material. Check them out; www.wightwash.org.uk Derek on the Island of Efate ... which is a very long way from Rookley... once an Islander, always an Islander!! -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]]On Behalf Of Ros Fletcher Sent: Wednesday, 16 July 2008 7:10 p.m. To: IOW list Subject: Re: [IoW] Hampshire Telegraph Aug 27 1864 There is a terrific book called (I think) "The Pubs of Ryde" - unfortunately out of print. At the back there is an appendix headed: "The Report of the Annual General Meeting for the borough of Ryde in February 1905 lists 95 licensed premises". There follows a comparative table showing the number of convictions for drunkenness for a number of towns (mostly in the South). Ryde has the 2nd smallest overall population and the highest ratio of people to pubs but they point out that their rate of drunkenness is only average!! I have only rather poor, although mostly readable, photographed copies of several pages from the book which has photos of many of the pubs in Ryde. I am quite happy to share them if anyone is interested. Regards ............ Ros. On 16/07/2008, at 9:29 AM, Keith Elmo Eldridge wrote: > Bruce Callaway <[email protected]> wrote: > >> The ANNUAL LICENSING DAY for the county of the Isle of Wight >> was held at the Town Hall on Wenesday last >> ... >> There were 221 applications for renewal, and 14 applications >> for new licenses to retail spirits >> ... >> I had no idea that Isle remained such an alcohol sodden place >> with so many outlets until relatively modern days! Some of >> YOUR rels may also have been involved. > > According to the 1871 census, my GGG Grandmother Louisa MORRIS (nee > BEAVIS, > GRIBESBY and HARDLEY) ran the Whitehorse Inn, Whitwell. This was > after her > (third) husband, Charles MORRIS, died in 1870. He was listed as the > Innkeeper in 1861 census so would have been one of the 221. > > I checked the most recent figures at < http://www.culture.gov.uk/ > 4865.aspx > > and the number of licensed premises on the Isle of Wight is now (as > of 31st > March 2007) 709, of which only 3 were for entertainment only. What I > couldn't tell was how many of the remaining 703 were shops or > supermarkets > selling alcohol or providers of late night refreshment. Still, > there are a > lot of places to buy a drink on the island. There is a higher > density of > licensed premises at tourist locations, which include the Isle of > Wight. > > Regards > Elmo > ************************************** You can contact the Isle of Wight List Administrator by emailing: [email protected] ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.524 / Virus Database: 270.4.11/1554 - Release Date: 15/07/2008 6:03 p.m. No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.524 / Virus Database: 270.4.11/1554 - Release Date: 15/07/2008 6:03 p.m.

    07/17/2008 03:25:00
    1. Re: [IoW] INNS
    2. Ann Ryder
    3. More Pubs, Richard Heaton's Hotels, Public Houses, Inns and Beer Houses Angel Inn,, Bell, Bugle Inn, Dolphin Inn, Fountain, Green Dragon Inn,, Plough, Red Lion, Inn, Sandrock Spring Hotel, Sun Inn, Tontine Inn, Vine, White Hart, White Lion, < http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~dutillieul/ZOtherPapers/Index/PubsInnsBeer.html > ISLE OF WIGHT RECORD OFFICE, Alehouses Licences Between 1766 - 1819, Displaying record 2241. < http://www.iwight.com/library/record_office/alehouses/ Ann

    07/16/2008 09:21:12
    1. Re: [IoW] INNS
    2. Like I said a few week's ago - the Island seemed to be divided in to 2 distinct groups ... beer swilling rabble or those who were tea totallers :-) (said tongue in cheek !). My grandmother (b. 1887) always told the story that her mother would only allow her husband "one pail of beer" a week on Saturday evening and that had to be drunk at home. The children used to wait at the gate to watch for him coming down the lane with his pail of beer. Guess my lot were in the middle! Welcome back Chris Hayles Ditto!! mary lou **************Get the scoop on last night's hottest shows and the live music scene in your area - Check out TourTracker.com! (http://www.tourtracker.com?NCID=aolmus00050000000112)

    07/16/2008 01:35:20
    1. Re: [IoW] Hampshire Telegraph Aug 27 1864
    2. Ros Fletcher
    3. There is a terrific book called (I think) "The Pubs of Ryde" - unfortunately out of print. At the back there is an appendix headed: "The Report of the Annual General Meeting for the borough of Ryde in February 1905 lists 95 licensed premises". There follows a comparative table showing the number of convictions for drunkenness for a number of towns (mostly in the South). Ryde has the 2nd smallest overall population and the highest ratio of people to pubs but they point out that their rate of drunkenness is only average!! I have only rather poor, although mostly readable, photographed copies of several pages from the book which has photos of many of the pubs in Ryde. I am quite happy to share them if anyone is interested. Regards ............ Ros. On 16/07/2008, at 9:29 AM, Keith Elmo Eldridge wrote: > Bruce Callaway <[email protected]> wrote: > >> The ANNUAL LICENSING DAY for the county of the Isle of Wight >> was held at the Town Hall on Wenesday last >> ... >> There were 221 applications for renewal, and 14 applications >> for new licenses to retail spirits >> ... >> I had no idea that Isle remained such an alcohol sodden place >> with so many outlets until relatively modern days! Some of >> YOUR rels may also have been involved. > > According to the 1871 census, my GGG Grandmother Louisa MORRIS (nee > BEAVIS, > GRIBESBY and HARDLEY) ran the Whitehorse Inn, Whitwell. This was > after her > (third) husband, Charles MORRIS, died in 1870. He was listed as the > Innkeeper in 1861 census so would have been one of the 221. > > I checked the most recent figures at < http://www.culture.gov.uk/ > 4865.aspx > > and the number of licensed premises on the Isle of Wight is now (as > of 31st > March 2007) 709, of which only 3 were for entertainment only. What I > couldn't tell was how many of the remaining 703 were shops or > supermarkets > selling alcohol or providers of late night refreshment. Still, > there are a > lot of places to buy a drink on the island. There is a higher > density of > licensed premises at tourist locations, which include the Isle of > Wight. > > Regards > Elmo >

    07/16/2008 12:09:32
    1. [IoW] INNS
    2. Peter & Angela McMurtry
    3. Like I said a few week's ago - the Island seemed to be divided in to 2 distinct groups ... beer swilling rabble or those who were tea totallers :-) (said tongue in cheek !). Another thing which I find amazing - the large numbers of various christian groups on the IoW, must have been ripe pickings for the Non Conformists. Seems to be a lot of them about given the population. Must look in to it further one of these days. Welcome back Chris Hayles Angela in Oz ( still have a a heap of newspaper snippets to go through )

    07/16/2008 11:21:25
    1. Re: [IoW] INNS
    2. Ann Ryder
    3. Web page "The Pubs of Ryde" < http://www.insula.vecta.btinternet.co.uk/RP1.html > Ann

    07/16/2008 11:14:45
    1. [IoW] BARNES
    2. Peter & Angela McMurtry
    3. Back in 2007 I posted the following Anyone with an interest in the Barnes family might like to look at http://www.homepages.ihug.com.au/~rbarnes/info.html William Austin Barnes illeg son of 'Mary Barnes and William Austin ( the turnpike keeper) details of family and subsequent arrival in Australia Mary also had another illeg son Isaac Barnes - father was Thomas Morey Eventually she married James Wearne 1798 Well it seems someone has been searching the IOW Archives and has emailed me about this family. Apparently the link no longer works. If anyone is related to the above I can put you in touch with the gentleman who contacted me as he ha compiled a huge family tree Angela in Qld Australia Never try to teach a pig to sing; it wastes your time and it annoys the pig. All mail scanned with AVAST 2008 No trees were killed in the sending of this message, but a large number of electrons were terribly inconvenienced

    07/16/2008 10:15:54
    1. Re: [IoW] INNS
    2. MSU
    3. Well what else can one do on those long winter evenings when the family is already too big, candles are too feeble to read by and Marconi has yet to start his Isle of Wight experiments with the radio? So, there remain two obvious choices, off to the pub whilst the wife suckles the babies or along to the temperance hall if the children are independent and the wife wants to come too! Hence the propensity of those two types of establishment. It's also probable that all those big open hills on the Island inspired many a budding preacher! Mark La Rochelle, France. Peter & Angela McMurtry wrote: > Like I said a few week's ago - the Island seemed to be divided in to 2 > distinct groups ... beer swilling rabble or those who were tea totallers :-) > (said tongue in cheek !). > > Another thing which I find amazing - the large numbers of various christian > groups on the IoW, must have been ripe pickings for the Non Conformists. > Seems to be a lot of them about given the population. Must look in to it > further one of these days. > > Welcome back Chris Hayles > > Angela in Oz ( still have a a heap of newspaper snippets to go through ) > > > > > ************************************** > You can contact the Isle of Wight List Administrator by emailing: > [email protected] > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >

    07/16/2008 06:53:48
    1. Re: [IoW] Hampshire Telegraph Aug 27 1864
    2. Keith Elmo Eldridge
    3. Bruce Callaway <[email protected]> wrote: > The ANNUAL LICENSING DAY for the county of the Isle of Wight > was held at the Town Hall on Wenesday last >... > There were 221 applications for renewal, and 14 applications > for new licenses to retail spirits >... > I had no idea that Isle remained such an alcohol sodden place > with so many outlets until relatively modern days! Some of > YOUR rels may also have been involved. According to the 1871 census, my GGG Grandmother Louisa MORRIS (nee BEAVIS, GRIBESBY and HARDLEY) ran the Whitehorse Inn, Whitwell. This was after her (third) husband, Charles MORRIS, died in 1870. He was listed as the Innkeeper in 1861 census so would have been one of the 221. I checked the most recent figures at < http://www.culture.gov.uk/4865.aspx > and the number of licensed premises on the Isle of Wight is now (as of 31st March 2007) 709, of which only 3 were for entertainment only. What I couldn't tell was how many of the remaining 703 were shops or supermarkets selling alcohol or providers of late night refreshment. Still, there are a lot of places to buy a drink on the island. There is a higher density of licensed premises at tourist locations, which include the Isle of Wight. Regards Elmo -- --Keith Elmo ELDRIDGE --Buxworth, High Peak, Derbyshire, England [email protected] --Looking on the Isle of Wight for --E.L.D.R.I.D.G.E, H.A.R.D.L.E.Y, P.R.A.N.G.N.E.L.L, --B.E.A.V.I.S, H.E.R.V.E.Y and P.A.I.N

    07/15/2008 06:29:16
    1. [IoW] Hampshire Telegraph Aug 27 1864
    2. Bruce Callaway
    3. The ANNUAL LICENSING DAY for the county of the Isle of Wight was held at the Town Hall on Wenesday last, before Sir John Simeon, Bart., chairman, Sir A.S. Hamond Bart., W.G. Shedden, W.M. Lenncocke, Esqrs. RThere were 221 applications for renewal, and 14 applications for new licenses to retail spirits, most of which were succesful, with the exception of the following.......................... New licences to deal in spirits were granted to James Warne, Junior, for the "GARIBALD HOTEL". at Sandown; to George Perkins, for the "NOTTINGHAM CASTLE HOTEL" at Sandown; to Joseph Knapp, for the "PLOUGH AND BARLEY CORN INN" at Gatton Village, near Shanklin; to John Isaacs, for the "ECLIPSE" Hotel, at Haylands, near Ryde; to George Kellaway, for the "VICTORIA INN" Freshwater; to Alfred Kellaway, for the "ROYAL STANDARD INN", in the same Parish; to John Wearne, for the "ALMA INN". Moneton street, Ryde; to Edmond Kendall, for the "RAILWAY TAVERN", in the same street; to James Knight, for an hotel and boarding house in Ventnor. >From at least the 16th century, my ancestors on the Isle of Wight were engaged in Piracy and the smuggling of liquor. I had no idea that Isle remained such an alcohol sodden place with so many outlets until relatively modern days! Some of YOUR rels may also have been involved. Dr. Bruce C. Callaway Sydney Australia E-mail [email protected]

    07/15/2008 02:14:48
    1. [IoW] Treemendous family 10,000 ancestors researched!!
    2. Chris & Caroline
    3. THE MIRROR 14/07/2008 OAP traces 10,000 ancestors...including the odd king By Tom Pettifor A pensioner believes he has produced the world's biggest family tree tracing 9,390 relatives including three kings. Relentless Roy Blackmore, 76, has spent 28 years and £20,000 piecing together his complex family history for 1,500 years. Roy, orphaned as a child, started the project in 1980 so he did most of his research without access to the internet. The ancestors he uncovered include Alfred the Great, William the Conqueror and Hugh Capet, a 10th century French king. Advertisement His tree stretches back to the Cerdick family in 500AD and 45 generations. The former perfume buyer also found among his relatives a cowboy, US Civil War soldiers, farmers, and the odd monk. Roy, of Taunton, Somerset, who spent up to five hours a day on his hobby, said: "One of the most shocking discoveries was that I'm a descendant of Alfred the Great. My interest started after I was orphaned as a child. I have been searching high and low for information on my family. There have been some very frustrating times when I seemingly hit a brick wall. But there is always a way around or over an obstacle and you just have to persevere." He added: "I could go back further into my French descendants but I think I'll leave it as it is." Dad-of-two Roy said wife Sigrid, 77, remained patient while he sifted through documents and travelled the country collecting clues. He said: "My grandchildren aren't too interested but I'm sure they will want to know more about their family as they grow older. "I was never really all that interested in history at school but as you get older you take an interest in where you come from." Geneaologist Nick Barratt, of BBC show Who Do You Think You Are? thinks it could be a record. He said: "To research 10,000 family members is a unique and amazing achievement. Many claim to have traced their family back to the Domesday Book but have actually used short cuts on the internet. "But to actually follow the paper trail is an incredible feat and I cannot praise it enough. Most struggle when at the 18th century." Roy is exhibiting certificates from his research at Taunton library today. Chris .

    07/15/2008 12:25:29
    1. Re: [IoW] TAYLER, GROVES and Australia
    2. David in Ballarat
    3. At 01:02 AM 15/07/2008, Susan Johnstone wrote: Dear Susan, your message was very hard to read with all those blue links. However, I think you want to know about a Barnabas GROVES who was living in Collingwood, Melbourne, VIC, AUS. - The Barnabas GROVES who died in VIC in 1879 was b.c. 1822 in Southampton, and was the son of Benjamin GROVES and Mary. No sign of any marriage or children here. GROVES marriages in VIC from IOW:- - Anna Maria GROVES, b. IOW m. 1870 James George WOOD - can't find Anna's death. However, I did unearth this one which looks like an IOW person - Mary Ann FARR, b.c. 1841, d. 1927 Camberwell, Melbourne, VIC, dau of William GROVES & Charlotte MOORMAN. Mary Ann m. 1862 in VIC to James Thomas FARR - John GROVES, b. IOW m. 1874 Miriam Sarah PHILLIPS [John b.c. 1854, d. 1927 Tatura, VIC, son of William GROVES & Charlotte MOORMAN] - Jennett GROVES, b. IOW m. 1878 George PAGAN [Jennett b.c. 1850, d. 1934 East Malvern, Melbourne, dau of William GROVES & Charlotte MOORMAN - that clinches that] - Arthur Henry GROVES b. 1858 Kyneton, VIC, d. 1934 Ballarat, VIC son of William GROVES & Charlotte MOORMAN. m. 1892 in VIC to Florence Teresa ROBERTSON - possible unmarried sister: Harriet GROVES b.c. 1854 d. 1938 Frankston, VIC dau of William GROVES & Charlotte MANNON (sic) - William GROVES b. 1856 Belfast, VIC, d. 1874 VIC son of William GROVES and Charlotte MOORMAN - Antony GROVES b.c. 1848 d. 1885 Tatura, VIC, son of William GROVES & Charlotte MOORMAN - Charlotte GROVES b.c. 1818, d. 1895 Tatura, VIC, dau of John MOORMAN - William GROVES b.c. 1818 d. 1896 Tatura, VIC, son of John James GROVES & Martha. - Daniel Barton GROVES b. IOW m. 1869 Ellen Augusta STONE [Dan b. c. 1840 d. 1897 Carlton, VIC, son of Henry GROVES & Matilda BLACK] - John Wesley GROVES b.c. 1842, d. 1908 Brighton, Melbourne, VIC son of Henry GROVES & Matilda BLACK - John Wesley GROVES, b. CORNWALL m1. 1867 in VIC to Sarah HALL. - John Wesley GROVES, b. LAUNCESTON, CORNWALL m2. 1876 in VIC to Louisa Matilda NEEDHAM. She b.c. 1848 d. 1933 Sth Yarra, VIC. That's enough for now - hope it helps David in Ballarat

    07/14/2008 07:55:35
    1. Re: [IoW] NAME CHANGES
    2. David in Ballarat
    3. >I might also add, > >Helen / Nell, Nelly - Ellen, Eleanor, Ellie >Isabella / Bella, Isa, Isobel - Elizabeth in medieval times >Alexander / Sandy, Sandie or Eck Eck in our family was always from Hector >James / Jim, Jimmy, Jas - Jamie >Euphemia / Effy - my dear Gt Gt Gt Grandmother who emigrated from >Kintyre in her late 60s - also known as Eufen; Phemie; Phoebe; David in Ballarat

    07/14/2008 06:27:26
    1. Re: [IoW] NAME CHANGES
    2. LiverpoolLady
    3. Thank you for sharing this site Debbie its very interesting.....passing it on. Lesley -----Original Message----- From: Debbie Cook I've found this site very helpful in the past: http://www.whatsinaname.net/

    07/14/2008 05:01:17
    1. Re: [IoW] TAYLER, GROVES and Australia
    2. Jon Baker
    3. Susan This could be your Miss H Tayler. 1881 census: Harriett Taylor, Colman Wood, Ashey aged 29, born Ashey Class: RG11; Piece: 1180; Folio: 94; Page: 14 (image sent off list) The following entry, which I think is Kemphill Farm is the home of Jane Ridett (Wid) and her father William GROVES, and her niece and nephew Lucy & William. >From this and the previous entry, which is for Coppidhall Farm, I think Colman Wood must have been along the road that nowadays is called Stroud Wood Lane, between Havenstreet and Upton Cross. Harriett's mother Priscilla's occupation is listed as "Keeps a Brick Yard" and, guess what, there is a brick field along the small track between Stroud Wood Farm and Kemphill Farm :-) As the address was "Nr Ryde", rather than Ryde itself, it had to be somewhere on the outskirts of the town (though even my home village of Wootton still referenced Nr Ryde as a postal address when I was a nipper so "Nr Ryde" could be 3 or 4 miles away at least). I tried to find a reference to Colmans Wood on Old Maps (www.old-maps.co.uk) but failed, but it does show Coppidhall Farm, Strod Wood Farm and Kemphill Farm quite clearly. Enter coordinates 457300, 90500 and search and then click on the ENLARGE MAP icon. Hope that helps Regards Jon Baker -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Susan Johnstone Sent: 14 July 2008 16:02 To: [email protected] Subject: [IoW] TAYLER, GROVES and Australia I have recently found an old family Bible. Inside, it had an ancient small envelope (addressed to Miss H TAYLER, Colemans Road, Nr Ryde, Isle of Wight) containing a slip of paper with the name and address of "Barnabus GROVES, Carpenter, Brook Cottage, Stanley Street, East Collingwood, Melbourn, South Australia". I have transcribed the original spellings and errors. The writing is very old-fashioned, with some "s" appearing as "f". Barnabas and Barnaby were quite frequent names in the GROVES family of the Isle of Wight, and several of them were carpenters, but I suspect this piece of paper refers to the brother of my x2 great-grandmother Elizabeth WHEELER nee GROVES (the Bible comes from that line of my family). That Barnabas, bc 1817 was son of Benjamin & Mary GROVES, and we "loose" him after the 1851 census of England. I see from Ancestry.com that a Barnabas GROVES died in 1879 in Victoria, Australia, and that another Barnabas GROVES was on the electoral roll in Collingwood, Melbourne in the first half of C20, which sounds exceptionally promising! I am aware that there is a (related) family of GROVES, including a Barnabas, who emigrated to Tasmania, but does anyone have any further information on the line of the Isle of Wight GROVES family who lived in Collingwood, Melbourne, in the second half of C19 and early C19, please? And can anyone tell me where Colemans Road near Ryde was - as opposed to the one between Newport and Yarmouth? I cannot find it on Google maps nor on the OS, so assume it must have been renamed or built over or . Susan <http://www.ancestry.com/facts/johnstone-family-history.ashx> Johnstone ************************************** You can contact the Isle of Wight List Administrator by emailing: [email protected] ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

    07/14/2008 03:12:00
    1. Re: [IoW] NAME CHANGES
    2. Debbie Cook
    3. I've found this site very helpful in the past: http://www.whatsinaname.net/ Debbie Vic., Aust. Some others Sarah / Sally Ann / Nancy / Hannah Jane / Jean/ Jessie / Jenny / Jeanie / Janet Mary / Maria Don't forget those who liked to alternate between their christian name and middle name ! Then we have those who invent knew names ! Angela in Oz ************************************** You can contact the Isle of Wight List Administrator by emailing: [email protected] ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

    07/14/2008 01:59:53
    1. [IoW] NAME CHANGES
    2. Claire Bennett-Claypole
    3. Also John / Jack, Jock, Johnny Robert / Rob, Rab, Bob, Bertie, Bert or Rabbie Helen / Nell, Nelly George / Tod, Dod Ellen / Nell, Ellie Isabella / Bella, Isa, Isobel Margaret / Maggie, Rita, Madge, Meg, Marge, Greta, Peggy, even Daisy (from Margurite) Mary / Polly, Minnie, Polette, Mollie, Molly, May Alexander / Sandy, Sandie or Eck Minerva / Minnie James / Jim, Jimmy, Jas Alice / Lisa Nicholas / Nic, Nick, Col Amelia / Milly Sarah / Sadie Louise / Alison, Eloise, Lois Thomas / Tom, Tam Euphemia / Effy Elizabeth / Bet, Bettie, Liz, Lizzie, Betty, Beth, Elsa, Bess, Bessie, Elise, Ella Miriam / Molly Helena / Ena, Lena, Ellen If you search for the term Hypocoristic (meaning endearing or a pet names)in Wikipedia it will give you many other variations. Claire

    07/14/2008 01:54:29
    1. [IoW] NAME CHANGES
    2. Peter & Angela McMurtry
    3. Some others Sarah / Sally Ann / Nancy / Hannah Jane / Jean/ Jessie / Jenny / Jeanie / Janet Mary / Maria Don't forget those who liked to alternate between their christian name and middle name ! Then we have those who invent knew names ! Angela in Oz

    07/14/2008 12:47:44
    1. Re: [IoW] TAYLER, GROVES and Australia
    2. Susan Johnstone
    3. Garry, First of all, apologies for the hypertext and gobbledegook which is inserted into my original text - probably by a gremlin somewhere. I certainly wouldn't have sent if I'd known that was going to happen. As I said in that email, I did transcribe the address as it had been written which was definitely "Colemans Road". I must now look at the census returns for Colenutt's Road for the mid-1800s and see if any likely Taylers (or Taylors even) lived there. Many thanks for this new line of enquiry. Susan -----Original Message----- From: Garry & Doreen Cooper [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: 14 July 2008 16:32 To: Susan Johnstone; [email protected] Subject: Re: [IoW] TAYLER, GROVES and Australia Susan, Speaking as an ex resident of Ryde I have never heard of Coleman's Road. Are you sure of the spelling because there is a Colenutt's Road, which you will find, whatever the search facility you use. Garry. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Susan Johnstone" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, July 14, 2008 4:02 PM Subject: [IoW] TAYLER, GROVES and Australia >I have recently found an old family > <http://www.ancestry.com/facts/bible-family-history.ashx> Bible. Inside, > it > had an ancient small envelope (addressed to Miss H > <http://www.ancestry.com/facts/tayler-family-history.ashx> TAYLER, > Colemans > Road, Nr <http://www.ancestry.com/facts/ryde-family-history.ashx> Ryde, > Isle of <http://www.ancestry.com/facts/wight-family-history.ashx> Wight) > containing a slip of paper with the name and address of "Barnabus > <http://www.ancestry.com/facts/groves-family-history.ashx> GROVES, > <http://www.ancestry.com/facts/carpenter-family-history.ashx> Carpenter, > <http://www.ancestry.com/facts/brook-family-history.ashx> Brook > <http://www.ancestry.com/facts/cottage-family-history.ashx> Cottage, > Stanley > Street, East > <http://www.ancestry.com/facts/collingwood-family-history.ashx> > Collingwood, > <http://www.ancestry.com/facts/melbourn-family-history.ashx> Melbourn, > South > Australia". I have transcribed the original spellings and errors. The > writing is very old-fashioned, with some "s" appearing as "f". > > Barnabas and <http://www.ancestry.com/facts/barnaby-family-history.ashx> > Barnaby were quite frequent names in the > <http://www.ancestry.com/facts/groves-family-history.ashx> GROVES family > of > the Isle of <http://www.ancestry.com/facts/wight-family-history.ashx> > Wight, and several of them were carpenters, but I suspect this piece of > paper refers to the brother of my x2 great-grandmother Elizabeth > <http://www.ancestry.com/facts/wheeler-family-history.ashx> WHEELER nee > <http://www.ancestry.com/facts/groves-family-history.ashx> GROVES (the > <http://www.ancestry.com/facts/bible-family-history.ashx> Bible comes from > that line of my family). That Barnabas, bc 1817 was son of Benjamin & Mary > <http://www.ancestry.com/facts/groves-family-history.ashx> GROVES, and we > "loose" him after the 1851 census of > <http://www.ancestry.com/facts/england-family-history.ashx> England. > > I see from Ancestry.com that a Barnabas > <http://www.ancestry.com/facts/groves-family-history.ashx> GROVES died in > 1879 in Victoria, Australia, and that another Barnabas > <http://www.ancestry.com/facts/groves-family-history.ashx> GROVES was on > the > electoral roll in > <http://www.ancestry.com/facts/collingwood-family-history.ashx> > Collingwood, > <http://www.ancestry.com/facts/melbourne-family-history.ashx> Melbourne in > the first half of C20, which sounds exceptionally promising! > > I am aware that there is a (related) family of > <http://www.ancestry.com/facts/groves-family-history.ashx> GROVES, > including > a Barnabas, who emigrated to Tasmania, but does anyone have any further > information on the line of the Isle of > <http://www.ancestry.com/facts/wight-family-history.ashx> Wight > <http://www.ancestry.com/facts/groves-family-history.ashx> GROVES family > who > lived in <http://www.ancestry.com/facts/collingwood-family-history.ashx> > Collingwood, > <http://www.ancestry.com/facts/melbourne-family-history.ashx> > Melbourne, in the second half of C19 and early C19, please? > > > > And can anyone tell me where Colemans Road near Ryde was - as opposed to > the > one between Newport and Yarmouth? I cannot find it on Google maps nor on > the > OS, so assume it must have been renamed or built over or . > > Susan <http://www.ancestry.com/facts/johnstone-family-history.ashx> > Johnstone > > > > > ************************************** > You can contact the Isle of Wight List Administrator by emailing: > [email protected] > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

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