Nothing under Calbourne in Kokeritz's Placenames of the Isle of Wight but he had Coppidthorn or Copperthorn surviving as a field name on the Brighstone tithe map - means lopped or pollarded thorn bush. Brighstone and Calbourne were adjoining parishes and manors and much of both parishes came under the manor of Swainston for which records survive at the Isle of Wight Record Office. Di ----- Original Message ----- From: "LiverpoolLady" <[email protected]> To: "ISLE-OF-WIGHT-" <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, August 12, 2008 8:52 AM Subject: Re: [IoW] Coppid Thorne - Calbourne > So far the internet only comes up with Coppid Hall but that's in Ryde. > Will > keep a look out. > Lesley Ü > > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] > [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Angela > > I recently acquired a will dated February 1736 which refers to Tenements > and > Lands called Coppid Thorne and Sheepwash, Calbourne, Isle of Wight. I > looked on an old ordnance survey map of the island, but could not find > Coppid Thorne. Does anyone know of its existence? > Thank you. > Angela Sherry > > > > > > > > > > > >
Angela Good spot by Dave. I checked the 1851 census as well, and it would seem that Coppy Thorn is between Langbridge Farm and Calbourne Cross, based on the order that the Enumerator recorded the households. I haven't been able to locate Coppy Thorn or similar on the 1861 or 1871 censuses. Hope that helps Jon Baker -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Angela Sent: 13 August 2008 10:23 To: [email protected] Subject: [IoW] Coppid Thorne, Calbourne, Isle of Wight Thank you everyone who took the time and trouble to comment on the possible location of Coppid Thorne. After reading a will dating from 1736 several times, it would seem that there were some houses and outhouses on a piece of land called Coppid Thorne, which were left to an individual called Richard Clarke. Dave Peach had pinpointed a location on the 1891 census called "Coppythorn" which was near Swainston Manor. I'll check it out during my next visit home to the Island as I think this could possibly be the location. Best wishes, Angela Sherry Michigan, U.S.A. ************************************** You can contact the Isle of Wight List Administrator by emailing: [email protected] ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message
Thank you everyone who took the time and trouble to comment on the possible location of Coppid Thorne. After reading a will dating from 1736 several times, it would seem that there were some houses and outhouses on a piece of land called Coppid Thorne, which were left to an individual called Richard Clarke. Dave Peach had pinpointed a location on the 1891 census called "Coppythorn" which was near Swainston Manor. I'll check it out during my next visit home to the Island as I think this could possibly be the location. Best wishes, Angela Sherry Michigan, U.S.A.
Hello Haven't researched Munt's in detail but do have the following who are collateral to our tree: James Munt 1789 -1852 (resident in Northwood 1841) His parents appear?? to have been John Munt and Harriet ? but have no details for them. James married Ann Smith. Their children were Ann 1821, Amelia 1829, Harriet 1831 and George William 1837 (dates may be approximate). All of Northwood. Hope this helps a bit. Steve Harrison (researching Hollises)
Angela, I have Robert MUNT, b. 1656 and his wife Jane HODGKINS b. 1690 as possible parents of Richard MUNT b. Shorewell, 1684. Richard MUNT leased a Salthouse or cottage in 1714 and died in Calbourne in 1734. He married Martha BARNES in 1714. I also have a Sarah MUNT born 1758, Northwood who died on 6 Oct 1788, age 30 years. Sarah was the first wife of John Whillier/Wheeler, b. 1758, Shalfleet. John Whillier/Wheeler and Sarah MUNT were married 28 Sept. 1779 in Northwood. Eleanor/Ellen/Helena MUNT b. 1763, Newtown near Calbourne was the second wife of John WHILLIER/WHEELER and may have been a younger sister to Sarah. Eleanor and Sarah's parents may have been John MUNT, 1717, b. Calbourne and Mary BARNES, b. 1720, Shalfleet but there was also an earlier Eleanor born to the same parents in 1757 in Calbourne, Shalfleet. Sorry this is so indefinite but it's some time since I looked at the MUNT family and there may be some new information around. I'll have another look at it all and try to sort it out as Eleanor MUNT was my GGGG Grandmother.. Joan Myers On 11/08/2008, at 8:12 PM, Peter & Angela McMurtry wrote: > > I have access to the newspaper site for another two week's ( don't > ask , I could tell you but would have to kill you - wink) so if > anyone has SPECIFIC look ups email me off list and I will see what > I can do. I have a few more snippets to post next week when I get > more organised. > > Re Munt . I have been looking at my files and would like to know if > anyone has researched them extensively ? I would like to know if > Robert Munt & Jane Hodgins who had a children born in Niton 1697 + > were related at all to the family of Richard Munt and Martha Barnes > who married in Thorley. Richard being of Shorwell b 1684. I would > like to merge my two files if they are connected. > > Finally does anyone have MUNTS in Northwood ? 1750+. I have a Sarah > with no recorded bap born Northwood 1758. Curious to know how many > other MUNT families were circulating in Cowes area. > Angela in Oz > > Never try to teach a pig to sing; it wastes your time and it annoys > the pig. > > All mail scanned with AVAST 2008 > No trees were killed in the sending of this message, > but a large number of electrons were terribly inconvenienced > > > > ************************************** > You can contact the Isle of Wight List Administrator by emailing: > [email protected] > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ISLE-OF-WIGHT- > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message
There is a Coppid Hall Farm in Havenstreet. It seems that the word might be Middle English and possibly means 'couped in' - another of those place names that might have been very specifically local and which may not have been formally recorded, save for in a few documents such as your will. I've got a copy of the Domesday Book at home (but I'm on holiday at the moment) - I'll see if I can find anything in there. P
So far the internet only comes up with Coppid Hall but thats in Ryde. Will keep a look out. Lesley Ü -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Angela I recently acquired a will dated February 1736 which refers to Tenements and Lands called Coppid Thorne and Sheepwash, Calbourne, Isle of Wight. I looked on an old ordnance survey map of the island, but could not find Coppid Thorne. Does anyone know of its existence? Thank you. Angela Sherry
I recently acquired a will dated February 1736 which refers to Tenements and Lands called Coppid Thorne and Sheepwash, Calbourne, Isle of Wight. I looked on an old ordnance survey map of the island, but could not find Coppid Thorne. Does anyone know of its existence? Thank you. Angela Sherry
I have access to the newspaper site for another two week's ( don't ask , I could tell you but would have to kill you - wink) so if anyone has SPECIFIC look ups email me off list and I will see what I can do. I have a few more snippets to post next week when I get more organised. Re Munt . I have been looking at my files and would like to know if anyone has researched them extensively ? I would like to know if Robert Munt & Jane Hodgins who had a children born in Niton 1697 + were related at all to the family of Richard Munt and Martha Barnes who married in Thorley. Richard being of Shorwell b 1684. I would like to merge my two files if they are connected. Finally does anyone have MUNTS in Northwood ? 1750+. I have a Sarah with no recorded bap born Northwood 1758. Curious to know how many other MUNT families were circulating in Cowes area. Angela in Oz Never try to teach a pig to sing; it wastes your time and it annoys the pig. All mail scanned with AVAST 2008 No trees were killed in the sending of this message, but a large number of electrons were terribly inconvenienced
2nd CHILD OF HENRY CORNEY AND HANNAH YOUNG: SEE FIRST CHILD BELOW NAME: Clara /CORNEY/ BIRTH: 31 Mar 1839 PLACE: Godshill near Newport, Hampshire CHR: 18 Aug 1839 PLACE: Godshill near Newport, Hampshire DEATH: UNKNOWN PLACE: UNKNOWN BURIAL: UNKNOWN PLACE: UNKNOWN FATHER: Henry CORNEY BORN: 1814 Godshill PLACE: GODSHILL, IOW DIED: 1874 PLACE: Ventnor, Isle of Wight BURIAL: 1874 PLACE: Ventnor, Isle of Wight MOTHER: Hannah YOUNG PLACE: Whitwell, Isle of Wight CHR: 25 Jan 1818 DEATH: Apr 1839 PLACE: Newport Isle of Wight BURIAL: Apr 1839 PLACE: Newport Isle of Wight MARRIED: Henry CORNEY Clara Corney appears on 1851 UK Census with her Father Henry, step Mom Christianna Fletcher CORNEY and Henry William CORNEY b. 1848 Ventnor, first son of Henry and Christianna. Henry Corney married Christianna FLETCHER 1847 St. Mary's Portsea, Hamp. I have been unable to find either a Marriage or Death for Clara. I need information only on CLARA CORNEY. - - - - - - - - - - I have Henry and Hannah's first born information. NAME: Fanny CORNEY CHR: 30 Jul 1837 PLACE: Godshill near Newport, Hampshire DEATH: Sep 1892 PLACE: Godshill near Newport Hampshire BURIAL: Sep 1892 PLACE: Godshill near Newport Hampshire MARRIED: 1867 PLACE: Isle of Wight PERSON: Henry // NOTTINGHAM BIRTH: 1831 PLACE: Brinton, Northampton, England DEATH: 1922 PLACE Godshill near Newport Hampshire BURIAL: 1922 PLACE: Godshill near Newport Hampshire CHILDREN: 1. NAME: Lydia Louisa Pamela /NOTTINGHAM/ CHR: 30 Aug 1868 PLACE: Ventnor, Isle of Wight MARRIED: JOHN CLEGG No information on him. 2. NAME: Henry Edward /NOTTINGHAM/ CHRIS: 1871 PLACE: Wroxall, IOW DEATH: 1922 PLACE: Wroxall, IOW MARRIED: NOT KNOWN 3. NAME: Clara /NOTTINGHAM/ CHR: 1874 PLACE: Ventnor, Isle of Wight DEATH: NOT KNOWN PLACE: NOT KNOWN MARRIED: NOT KNOWN
Hello Listers Is anyone interested in the name of YOUNG I am connected through marriage to a James YOUNG born 1805 who married a Mary OATES born 1812 My Grandfather being Walter OATES born on the island children Charles YOUNG born 1836 Frank YOUNG born 1840 John YOUNG 1841 Mary A YOUNG born 1845 Phoebe YOUNG 1847 Sarah YOUNG born 1849 YOUNG is a very common name on the island and I would appreciate any help to take this family forward. Regards Angela
Sorry - sent a response last week, but haven't seen it on the digest, regarding my earlier query about Esther Clarke. I neglected to indicate in my original post that her father was Arthur Clarke (deceased) - that is deceased at the time of the wedding in 1860. Esther would have been born about 1824. Both 1861 and 1871 censuses list her place of birth as Isle of Wight. She died in 1872, and I can't find her on earlier censuses. Her father was a soldier, so I'm not sure if the family was from IOW, or just passing through. Angela and Lesley have kindly checked their Clarke/Clark records. What I'm wondering now is - would a birth that happened on the Isle of Wight have been registered elsewhere? Maybe somewhere in Hampshire? Or maybe the whole IOW mention in the census is just a giant red herring. Ann
Hi again John Just another thought I had! Below are the HILLS still residing in Godshill in the 1851 Census index plus page number (HO/107/1665). Maybe your William is related to some of these people. If not then you can at least rule them out. Beki HILLS in Godshill in 1851........ Alfred aged 26 born Godshill pg 220 Alfred aged 10 born Godshill pg 225 Elizabeth aged 30 born Godshill pg 225 Elizabeth aged 24 born Godshill pg 220 Ellen aged 2 born Godshill pg 225 Frances aged 61 born Newchurch pg 225 Frances aged 21 born godshill pg 225 Frances H aged 12 born Godshill pg 225 George aged 19 born Godshill pg 225 Hannah aged 49 born Godshill pg 228 Harriet aged 11 born Godshill pg 228 Henry aged 65 born Arreton Pg 220 Henry aged 26 born Godshill pg 225 Henry aged 15 born Godshill pg 214 Hezekiah aged 57 born Whippingham pg 225 James aged 55 born Whippingham pg 228 James aged 15 born Godshill pg 225 Jane aged 67 born Godshill pg 220 John aged 22 born Newchurch pg 228 Mary aged 35 born Godshill pg 220 William aged 59 born Whippingham pg 225 -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of John ATTRILL Sent: 03 August 2008 17:04 To: [email protected] Subject: [IoW] Stuck on "HILLS"- Need bump start!! Hi Listers Is anyone doing the HILLS/HILL family on IOW? Have a WILLIAM HILLS B. Godshill IW 1823 who married CAROLINE ATTRILL b 1821 from Rew Farm Godshill (Ventnor)IW Cannot find any baptism or parents for William. HILLS -Found two Williams B 1801 & one Bp 1856 Freshwater which hopefully may connect up. John Attrill _________________________________________________________________ Get Hotmail on your mobile from Vodafone http://clk.atdmt.com/UKM/go/107571435/direct/01/ ************************************** You can contact the Isle of Wight List Administrator by emailing: [email protected] ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message
Hi John In the 1851 Census Index there is a William HILLS aged 25 years born Arreton, Isle of Wight. (HO/107/1663 pg 488) I don't have the census only the index so can't pinpoint where exactly he is living other than Arreton. It appears that the following HILLS people are also on the same census page. Elizabeth aged 56 born Mottistone Fanny aged 16 born Arreton Frederick aged 15 born Arreton Henry aged 23 born Arreton Robert aged 57 born Arreton Walter aged 18 born Arreton Also in Ryde there is another William HILLS this time aged 28 years (HO/107/1664 pg 159). On the same census page there are the following HILLS people. Caroline age 30 born Godshill William aged 2 born Ryde I can't find any other references to a William HILLS around this age in the rest of the index. Hope this helps. Beki -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of John ATTRILL Sent: 03 August 2008 17:04 To: [email protected] Subject: [IoW] Stuck on "HILLS"- Need bump start!! Hi Listers Is anyone doing the HILLS/HILL family on IOW? Have a WILLIAM HILLS B. Godshill IW 1823 who married CAROLINE ATTRILL b 1821 from Rew Farm Godshill (Ventnor)IW Cannot find any baptism or parents for William. HILLS -Found two Williams B 1801 & one Bp 1856 Freshwater which hopefully may connect up. John Attrill _________________________________________________________________ Get Hotmail on your mobile from Vodafone http://clk.atdmt.com/UKM/go/107571435/direct/01/ ************************************** You can contact the Isle of Wight List Administrator by emailing: [email protected] ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message
All sorted, thanks... and know i must prepare to write to many people... lots listed in the IOW. Bobby.
Hello, Ok,. the next stage is to write to the IOW. I dont seem to be able to get any further info (or photos) about ancesters on the island. I couldnt find an online phone book, maybe i'm putting the wrong search words in or something for the white pages. Sunday morning block perhaps. Anyway, i would like to write to WILSONS on the island. Is there an online phone book with addresses? Or how should i go about this? Thanks, Aussie Bobby.
Angela, You can search for BMDs on FreeBMD at: http://freebmd.rootsweb.com/cgi/search.pl the marriage entry for Percy is there: Sep Q 1923 George Percy R May Bethnal G 1c 322 but the other hasn't yet been transcribed but checking on the indexes there is a matching entry for a Dorothy May. As for the children you need to go to the GRO indexes, you have the advantage of knowing the wife's maiden name which is listed on the index after c1915 so identify an appropriate entry is relatively easy vs when the maiden name wasn't listed. Alternatively you can wait until FreeBMD transcribes more births, there are currently no suitable entries post 1923 but it is being updated on a regular basis. Bob
Dear Bob, Gill ,Lesley U, Ann and Anne, Thank you all so much for replying to my request. You all seem to have found my William. He has flown the nest and is living in Surrey. All my family seem to have done this and it makes tracing them so much harder. I wonder if you can solve another mystery. I have a Percy R GEORGE born 1870 son of Alfred and Sophia OATES. I think he married in 1923 Middx a (xxxxx) MAY How can I find out the first name of his Wife and any children they may have had. Regards Angela
Angela, William E Stroud boarder age 23 shop assistant 7 High St Sutton born Isle of Wight RG13; Piece: 580; Folio: 43; Page: 24 Age definitely recorded as 23 but no other William Stroud born IoW 1876-81 from the FHS births on IoW. Bob
Hello Everyone, Since there have been comments about how quiet it has been lately, perhaps someone will be good enough to try and solve a problem I have with one of my ancestors. I have a William Edward STROUD born 1875/6 Ryde, son of Edward G STROUD and Ellen OATES. I have managed to trace him so far 1881 aged 5/6 living with his Uncle William G WRIGHT and Auntie Mary Ann WRIGHT Clare aged 15 Minnie aged 12 & Ada aged 5. They were his cousins. He was living with them because his Mother Ellen had died. In 1891 aged 16 he is back with his Father Edward aged 41 who had remarried a Sarah Jane. I am unable to find him on the 1901 census. I have looked to see if he has died or married but have been unsuccessful. Has anyone got any ideas. Regards Angela