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    1. [IoW] DAW, Rosina married 1802 at Alverstoke
    2. Stephen Shafer
    3. Hello, I am trying to find the parents and perhaps grandparents of my ancestor Rosina DAW who married Richard Shackle in 1802 at Alverstoke. The couple's children, at least some of them, were baptized at St Thomas, Portsmouth circa 1809-1813. Their grandson, John Alexander CREAL, b. 1850 kept the Eagle Tavern in the Isle of Wight. For that reason, and because of the many DAWs found in the IOW, I think Rosina may have been born on IOW or had ancestors from there before moving to the mainland. Any advice will be appreciated. This is ccd to my cousin in the UK who is working on the same family, CREAL. Stephen Shafer New York

    10/01/2009 06:13:25
    1. [IoW] Northwood cemetery
    2. April
    3. Thank you Jon for sending the Northwood cemetery to us all. Excellent information for the burials. If there are anymore like this one for other places in the I-of-W, I for one would very much appreciate it. I have had such a tremendous lot of help in the past to discover about my grt grandparents and even my grandfathers childhood over there, that we never knew about. All that they did for me, I appreciated so much. Was rather odd to know that family had lived just across the water from me and my siblings and we never knew. How fortunate we are. Not so in South Africa where it is virtually impossible, as the Natal Records Office seem to hang on to BMD like grim death. Only through the kindness of people over there, have I been able to get as far as I have about a relative( who emigrated there) These kind people had to travel a good distance to get there and to photograph copies for me. Even harder to get information after 1960. In the UK we are so fortunate. Kind regards. April

    09/30/2009 09:05:27
    1. Re: [IoW] Double barrel name
    2. Kate Burhouse
    3. Hi Angela Sorry for the late reply to this one - I've been having problems with my emails. Both my mother and my mother-in-law had double barrelled maiden names, so I've had plenty of practice at finding them ;-) They are rarely shown correctly in census returns. In most cases they are recorded by the latter name, with the first part shown as a middle name or initial. For example, my great grandfather, William Charles WEBBER-TAYLOR, appears in every census from 1881 to 1901 with the surname TAYLOR and sometimes with a middle initial of W. From this you might conclude that they simply used the Webber as a middle name and were known as Mr and Mrs Taylor. However, if you look for his birth in 1st quarter of 1874, you'll find him listed under the surname of 'Webber-Taylor'. Interestingly, his grandparents' deaths also show the full surname in 1891/2 so even those married into the family were adopting the Webber part too. Perhaps the difference between the census and BMDs are because the census enumerator assumed the Webber part was a middle name. If you enter a hyphenated surname into the 1911 census search page, you may already have found that the hyphen is removed when you click on 'search'. This was a real nuisance when the surname field was mandatory in the first few weeks, as it made it impossible to find some surnames. I had quite a drawn out correspondence with their help desk about this, and they finally admitted that this was a fault and they'd look into sorting it out - looks like they're still looking ;-) Now that they've added the wild card option, and the surname is no longer mandatory, there are ways around it, otherwise I'd be getting a bit fed up by now. Needless to say, I've been intrigued to find out why/how my lines came to have a double barrelled surname, especially as the Webber-Taylors come from ordinary Somerset labouring stock. I kept expecting to find the Webber appear as a maiden name as I progressed back, but no such luck. The only possible link is that my 4g grandmother (who was illegitimate) named her son Abraham Webber Taylor a year after her mother married an Abraham WEBBER. Of course by mentioning this link, I'm playing right into the hands of those who think that these surnames arose through snobbery - I can only say that my grandfather was the humblest and kindest person I have ever met. If you haven't yet found your ancestor Angela, let me know their details off list, and I'll have a go looking for them too. Best wishes Kate over the Exe from you :-) -----Original Message----- From: isle-of-wight-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:isle-of-wight-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Paul Mason Sent: 22 September 2009 18:58 To: FHS, massages Subject: [IoW] Double barrel name Hello, Is there a special method to find double barrelled names on a census. I have so far been unable to find a family I know to have been on that census. I have tried many combinations and wonder if anyone has a tip to help Regards Angela ************************************** You can contact the Isle of Wight List Administrator by emailing: Isle-of-Wight-Admin@rootsweb.com ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ISLE-OF-WIGHT-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

    09/30/2009 08:23:11
    1. [IoW] Burial Place on the IOW
    2. SBS Engineers Genealogy
    3. Hi list Many thanks for posting this link http://www.rydecemetery.org.uk/ Regards Ann Spiro Perth, Western Australia research@sbse.net.au http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~blacksmiths/ I have the surname BASKETT registered with GOONS http://www.one-name.org/ The gene pool could use a little chlorine.?

    09/30/2009 07:08:45
    1. [IoW] Northwood Cemetery, Cowes
    2. Jon Matthews
    3. Since Ryde Cemetery records on the Internet may have come as news to some recently, please let me add that the burial records of Northwood Cemetery, Cowes (not to be confused with Northwood St John CHURCHYARD) are also on-line at www.friendsofnorthwoodcemetery.org.uk. All details held in the Burial Registers have now been transcribed (1856-2008) and we are beginning to populate the records with: Obituaries (usually from the Isle of Wight County Press); Pictures of the deceased in their lifetime; Photographs of Headstones; and Family Notes A peek at my great uncle (MATTHEWS 1928) will give you a glimpse of this extra material. Bear in mind that the quantity of these is very sparse at the moment - and any contributions would be most welcome. If anyone would like to become a Friend of Northwood Cemetery, please contact me off-list. Regards to all, Jon Matthews Friends of Northwood Cemetery

    09/30/2009 03:34:04
    1. Re: [IoW] Burial Place on the IOW
    2. Jon Baker
    3. Don't forget also that there is an ever expanding database on the IWFHS web site of burial information, including a search for CofE burials. Ryde Cemetery is included as a link from this page but is not included in the searchable database as this does not cover municipal cemeteries. http://www.isle-of-wight-fhs.co.uk/mis_bis.htm http://www.isle-of-wight-fhs.co.uk/church_b.htm Regards Jon Baker -----Original Message----- Subject: [IoW] Burial Place on the IOW Hi list Many thanks for posting this link http://www.rydecemetery.org.uk/ Regards Ann Spiro

    09/30/2009 03:25:41
    1. [IoW] Record Office
    2. John T Scott
    3. Hi Denise You'll probably do well to contact the The Isle of Wight Record Office 26 Hillside, Newport, Isle of Wight, PO30 2EB Tel. (0)1983 823820/1 Fax. (0)1983 823820 Email:- record.office@iow.gov.uk For full information about the holdings of The Record Office go to their website direct at www.iwight.com/library/record_office/default.asp John ----- Original Message ----- From: "Denise Brown" <denise@lighthouseelectrical.com> To: <ISLE-OF-WIGHT@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, September 29, 2009 2:05 AM Subject: [IoW] Milford on Sea > I have suspicion that my 3 times g grandfather (Henry PAGE) was born > at Milford-on-Sea in approximately 1788 then possibly moved to IOW > (just across the way) and married there etc etc. How can I get > access to any BDM's to this parish? Can anyone help on this inquiry?

    09/29/2009 03:49:02
    1. [IoW] Milford on Sea
    2. Denise Brown
    3. Hello Francis This is further to your email to the Digest on 22/9/09 with your subject FUQUET and part of the message was re your 6 g-gf's brother married at Milford -on-Sea - well now over to my question. I have suspicion that my 3 times g grandfather (Henry PAGE) was born at Milford-on-Sea in approximately 1788 then possibly moved to IOW (just across the way) and married there etc etc. How can I get access to any BDM's to this parish? Can anyone help on this inquiry? Kind regards, Denise B Gold Coast, Queensland, Australia - denise@lighthouseelectrical.com

    09/29/2009 12:05:47
    1. [IoW] Burial Place on the IOW
    2. Evelyn Smith
    3. Thank you to Roy, Chris and John for your suggestions and assistance. I now know where my 3 x great grandmother, Ann LOCK was buried. Roy commented on the lack of place of burial on an English death certificate. So many of our Australian laws appear to have been set according to English records. With death certificates it always depends on the knowledge of the informant. However in New South Wales our death certificates appear to have been based on Scottish records for 1855. Very helpful for genealogists. Thank you again to Roy, Chris and John, Evelyn

    09/28/2009 09:51:42
    1. Re: [IoW] Burial Place on the IOW
    2. Roy Stockdill
    3. On 28 Sep 2009 at 11:00, Mike in Droitwich wrote: > The remains (ashes) of my father, mother & aunt are in the wardrobe in > my bedroom and my late father has moved twice since his death, they > also tried to move Cardinal Newman's remains!!! > > Mike in Droitwich > > p.s my mother's remains where in the boot of the car for some time so > I could say she was with me if I used here disabled parking permit.(I > never did) > > Roy Stockdill wrote: > > The Society of Genealogists, on > > whose Board of Trustees I have the privilege of serving, has long > > argued that death certificates could list the place of burial. Will > > it ever happen? Watch this space, but I doubt it! > > Interesting point, Mike. And what about this French female saint whoses relics are being carted around Britain at the moment by the Catholic Church? I've heard of people who have granny and grandad's ashes buried in the back garden, but keeping them in a wardrobe does seem a little macabre! I was looking yesterday at a Mormon website which had an advert from a funeral firm (in America, naturally) who were offering to turn a loved one's ashes into glass objects. Presumably you could have them turned into an ornament or something, so you could say "That's mother on the mantelpiece", or perhaps a chain to be worn round the neck. Good job you didn't use your late mother's disabled parking permit when her ashes were in the car boot - though it would have made for an interesting court case !!! -- Roy Stockdill Professional genealogical researcher, writer & lecturer Newbies' Guide to Genealogy & Family History: www.genuki.org.uk/gs/Newbie.html "There is only one thing in the world worse than being talked about, and that is not being talked about." OSCAR WILDE

    09/28/2009 05:26:15
    1. Re: [IoW] Burial Place on the IOW
    2. Mike in Droitwich
    3. The remains (ashes) of my father, mother & aunt are in the wardrobe in my bedroom and my late father has moved twice since his death, they also tried to move Cardinal Newman's remains!!! Mike in Droitwich p.s my mother's remains where in the boot of the car for some time so I could say she was with me if I used here disabled parking permit.(I never did) Roy Stockdill wrote: > The Society of Genealogists, on > whose Board of Trustees I have the privilege of serving, has long argued that death > certificates could list the place of burial. Will it ever happen? Watch this space, but I > doubt it! > > >

    09/28/2009 05:00:41
    1. [IoW] Burial Place on the IOW
    2. Evelyn Smith
    3. Dear Listers, Could someone suggest to me the cemetery an ancestor would have been buried in whose death was registered in 1879 in Ryde. This is, I hope, the death of my 3 x great grandmother, Ann LOCK. A record which I have searched for for many years and only now found with the assistance of a helpful person on this list. An English death certificate will not give me this information. Can anyone suggest any further information at the Record Office or elsewhere which could be helpful in adding to my knowledge of this woman. Other than the births of her many children, I have only found her (as with so many women of her time) on census records. I would be grateful for any assistance. Evelyn Smith >From a cool, dusty and very windy Sydney

    09/28/2009 03:27:59
    1. Re: [IoW] Burial Place on the IOW
    2. SALLY-ANN GARRETT
    3. Dear Evelyn, and others who may be interested in the social history of Ryde, The best place to start looking for people who died and were buried in Ryde, on the Isle of Wight is the Ryde Social Heritage Group website, where volunteers have mapped and recorded the inscriptions of many of the graves: http://www.rshg.org.uk , and have added census and stories for many of the individuas. The work is ongoing, so it is worthwhile checking back from time to time. A search facility on this website failed to show your ancestor, so the next port of call is the Isle of Wight Crematorium, where all the cemetery registers are held. They would be able to locate the burial place for Ann. Their details are: Bereavement Services   Re: Burial/Grave Details, Buying a Grave, Cemeteries, Exhuming a Deceased Body, Funeral Expenses, Municipal Funerals   Address Bereavement Services Section Isle of Wight Crematorium Station Lane Whippingham East Cowes Isle of Wight PO32 6NJ   Phone 01983 883010   Contact Name Doreen INNES, Bereavement Services Assistant   Opening Times Monday - Friday 9.00am - 5.00pm Saturday 9.00am - 12.00pmand 2.00pm - 4.00pm Sunday 12.00pm - 4.00pm     ATB   Sally-Ann ________________________________ From: Evelyn Smith <kesmith1@tpg.com.au> To: isle-of-wight@rootsweb.com Sent: Monday, 28 September, 2009 12:27:59 AM Subject: [IoW] Burial Place on the IOW Dear Listers, Could someone suggest to me the cemetery an ancestor would have been buried in whose death was registered in 1879 in Ryde. This is, I hope, the death of my 3 x great grandmother, Ann LOCK.  A record which I have searched for for many years and only now found with the assistance of a helpful person on this list. An English death certificate will not give me this information. Can anyone suggest any further information at the Record Office or elsewhere which could be helpful in adding to my knowledge of this woman. Other than the births of her many children, I have only found her (as with so many women of her time) on census records. I would be grateful for any assistance. Evelyn Smith >From a cool, dusty and very windy Sydney ************************************** You can contact the Isle of Wight List Administrator by emailing: Isle-of-Wight-Admin@rootsweb.com ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ISLE-OF-WIGHT-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

    09/28/2009 01:27:19
    1. Re: [IoW] Burial Place on the IOW
    2. Lynne Charles
    3. Hi I have Locke in my family tree, he was born in London I traced his ancestors back to Cornwall. Rg Lynne > Date: Sun, 27 Sep 2009 22:44:50 -0600 > From: john.ships@sasktel.net > To: kesmith1@tpg.com.au; isle-of-wight@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [IoW] Burial Place on the IOW > > Hi Evelyn > > This appears to be your ancestor > > LOCKE Ann / age. 81y / 22.10.1879 / in the Ryde Cemetery Registers > > You can make inquiries through > > Bereavement Services Section > Isle of Wight Crematorium > Station Lane > Whippingham > East Cowes > Isle of Wight > PO32 6NJ > > There are several Lock with a (e) listed at this website > http://www.rshg.org.uk/ under graves. Unfortunately your Ann doesn't appear > here yet > > All the best > John > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Evelyn Smith" <kesmith1@tpg.com.au> > To: <isle-of-wight@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Sunday, September 27, 2009 5:27 PM > Subject: [IoW] Burial Place on the IOW > > > > Dear Listers, > > > > Could someone suggest to me the cemetery an ancestor would have been > > buried > > in whose death was registered in 1879 in Ryde. This is, I hope, the death > > of > > my 3 x great grandmother, Ann LOCK. A record which I have searched for > > for > > many years and only now found with the assistance of a helpful person on > > this list. > > > ************************************** > You can contact the Isle of Wight List Administrator by emailing: > Isle-of-Wight-Admin@rootsweb.com > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ISLE-OF-WIGHT-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message _________________________________________________________________ Get the best of MSN on your mobile http://clk.atdmt.com/UKM/go/147991039/direct/01/

    09/28/2009 12:59:54
    1. Re: [IoW] Burial Place on the IOW
    2. Chris & Caroline
    3. Try a name serch at http://www.rydecemetery.org.uk/ Chris History of the villages of Dorset, Hampshire and Isle of Wight http://southernlife.org.uk ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ~"People have to talk about something just to keep their voice boxes in working order so they'll have good voice boxes in case there's ever anything really meaningful to say."~ ----- Original Message ----- From: "Roy Stockdill" <roy.stockdill@btinternet.com> To: <isle-of-wight@rootsweb.com>; "Evelyn Smith" <kesmith1@tpg.com.au> Sent: Monday, September 28, 2009 12:38 AM Subject: Re: [IoW] Burial Place on the IOW > On 28 Sep 2009 at 9:27, Evelyn Smith wrote: > >> Dear Listers, > >> Could someone suggest to me the cemetery an ancestor would have been >> buried in whose death was registered in 1879 in Ryde. This is, I hope, >> the death of my 3 x great grandmother, Ann LOCK. A record which I >> have searched for for many years and only now found with the >> assistance of a helpful person on this list. > >> An English death certificate will not give me this information. Can >> anyone suggest any further information at the Record Office or >> elsewhere which could be helpful in adding to my knowledge of this >> woman. Other than the births of her many children, I have only found >> her (as with so many women of her time) on census records. > > > Try entering "Cemeteries in Ryde Isle of Wight" into Google. I doubt there > are that > many. > > You are right in that our death certificates are notoriously unhelpful. > Indeed, they are > the least useful of all English genealogical records. The Society of > Genealogists, on > whose Board of Trustees I have the privilege of serving, has long argued > that death > certificates could list the place of burial. Will it ever happen? Watch > this space, but I > doubt it! > > > -- > Roy Stockdill > Professional genealogical researcher, writer & lecturer > Newbies' Guide to Genealogy & Family History: > www.genuki.org.uk/gs/Newbie.html > > "There is only one thing in the world worse than being talked about, > and that is not being talked about." > OSCAR WILDE > > > > ************************************** > You can contact the Isle of Wight List Administrator by emailing: > Isle-of-Wight-Admin@rootsweb.com > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ISLE-OF-WIGHT-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

    09/27/2009 07:50:15
    1. Re: [IoW] Burial Place on the IOW
    2. Roy Stockdill
    3. On 28 Sep 2009 at 9:27, Evelyn Smith wrote: > Dear Listers, > Could someone suggest to me the cemetery an ancestor would have been > buried in whose death was registered in 1879 in Ryde. This is, I hope, > the death of my 3 x great grandmother, Ann LOCK. A record which I > have searched for for many years and only now found with the > assistance of a helpful person on this list. > An English death certificate will not give me this information. Can > anyone suggest any further information at the Record Office or > elsewhere which could be helpful in adding to my knowledge of this > woman. Other than the births of her many children, I have only found > her (as with so many women of her time) on census records. > Try entering "Cemeteries in Ryde Isle of Wight" into Google. I doubt there are that many. You are right in that our death certificates are notoriously unhelpful. Indeed, they are the least useful of all English genealogical records. The Society of Genealogists, on whose Board of Trustees I have the privilege of serving, has long argued that death certificates could list the place of burial. Will it ever happen? Watch this space, but I doubt it! -- Roy Stockdill Professional genealogical researcher, writer & lecturer Newbies' Guide to Genealogy & Family History: www.genuki.org.uk/gs/Newbie.html "There is only one thing in the world worse than being talked about, and that is not being talked about." OSCAR WILDE

    09/27/2009 06:38:45
    1. Re: [IoW] Impossible Place Name
    2. Roy Stockdill
    3. On 27 Sep 2009 at 23:11, Chris & Caroline wrote: > Could it be "not absolute" as in not absolutely sure? > Chris > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Roy Stockdill" <roy.stockdill@btinternet.com> > To: <Isle-of-Wight-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Sunday, September 27, 2009 3:16 PM > Subject: Re: [IoW] Impossible Place Name > > > > On 26 Sep 2009 at 23:06, Ian Dunbar wrote: > > > >> Hello All, > > > >> I have no idea if this is related to the Isle of Wight as I can't > >> read it! > > > >> Emily COUGHLAN is listed in the 1891 census as being born in (and > >> this is what it looks like) B(e)ightminan not city > > > >> I have spent hours trying to work this out, and failed utterly. > > > >> It is here in the 1891 census. > > > >> Class: RG12; Piece: 219; Folio 62; Page 72; GSU roll: 6095329 > > .....Snip rest..... > > > > The transcriber for Findmypast obviously thought it was supposed to > > be Birmingham, since that is what appears in the index. However, > > looking at the image the two words written in a different > > handwriting after the place name appear to me to be "not abs" (not > > city). Offhand, I've no idea what this means, but I would be > > surprised if an enumerator in 1891 didn't know how to spell > > Birmingham, even a London enumerator. > > Good thought - yes it could be. However, Ian the OP, still believes the second word is "city". Personally, I am very doubtful. The appendage/addition has been added by a clerk in London and is in a totally different handwriting to the enumerator's. The thought that it could mean "Not absolute" did occur to me. -- Roy Stockdill Professional genealogical researcher, writer & lecturer Newbies' Guide to Genealogy & Family History: www.genuki.org.uk/gs/Newbie.html "There is only one thing in the world worse than being talked about, and that is not being talked about." OSCAR WILDE

    09/27/2009 06:19:31
    1. Re: [IoW] Re : A mischief maker in our midst
    2. Roy Stockdill
    3. On 27 Sep 2009 at 18:32, Gill Smith wrote: > Ladies and Gentlemen, > > This salutation does not include Roy Stockdale because he does > not fall into either category. > > This professional genealogist is an old hand at this game - drop > into a mailing list, join in a few discussions and wait for an > oppurtunity to set the cat among the pigeons (or sitting ducks). > A simple question sets him up nicely for his patented barrage of > insults which are both cruel and unwarranted. He claims to be > "frankly astonished" when he knows full well it is just the type > of question that a "Newbie" would ask. > > Why this list is his target has not yet emerged, but a few months > ago he was unsubscribed from a list for exactly the same > behavior. There he subscribed to the list as Robin Lane-Pudsey > apparently primarily to draw the list administrator into a > battle. The name, he later informed us with glee, was actually > "his dear old mum's address - Robin Lane, Pudsey, Yorkshire. He > retired from the list after handing out some extremely rude > comments. Why this admittedly well-informed man has to play > these tiresome and childish games when he has so much more he > could offer is a puzzle. > > But now people here have risen to his bait and are getting hot > under the collar and most conveniently fufilling his ambition to > stir things up. It has made the list lively for a few days but > now it is uncomfortable and should end. I have hopes that he > will now retire from this one. > > Gill Smith It's a pity - and perhaps an illustration of your own research skills - that in your otherwise very amusing and entertaining message you can't manage to spell my name correctly! My name is NOT Roy STOCKDALE. It's STOCKDILL, a variant of the Stockdale name from Yorkshire - and I can be extremely boring on the subject, being probably the world's foremost authority on it and the Guild of One-Name Studies- registered member for the surname, but I won't bother to give you the definitive history today. I also edited the Guild's Journal, the Journal of One-Name Studies, for 10 years and twice won the FFHS's Elizabeth Simpson Award for the best family history journal because I've been a media professional for over 50 years Actually, I never targeted the list, nor do I any others. I joined originally because I was researching the ancestry of a very famous person in the media who had a somewhat dubious ancestor from the IoW. This for my series on celebrity ancestries in Practical Family History magazine, a sort of Who Do You Think You Are? in print, one of my numerous projects. The archives of the list will reveal the full story if you or anyone else bothers to look at them. I did not get any help or responses but simply stayed because I thought I might be able to help one or two people with their own researches. You make it out to be some kind of conspiracy, which is utter nonsense. I hang around and help people when I can. And, BTW, Robin Lane-Pudsey was my grandparents' address, not my mother's, so that is something else you got wrong. I am still a member of the Yorksgen list and my messages still appear there now and then. The Administrator of the Yorksgen list, Janice, I should add, is actually a good friend of mine and we speak regularly and meet now and then at fairs, etc, as Janice runs a very commendable commercial company supplying Yorkshire data and I, amongst wearing numerous other "hats", am chairman of the London Group of Yorkshire Family History Societies. The formal world of UK genealogy, to which we both belong, is sometimes incestuous and mysterious to outsiders and maybe that's our fault! However, as I have repeatedly said, my expertise as one of the UK's best-known and leading genealogists is at the disposal of anyone who cares to ask me a sensible question. -- Roy Stockdill Professional genealogical researcher, writer & lecturer Newbies' Guide to Genealogy & Family History: www.genuki.org.uk/gs/Newbie.html "There is only one thing in the world worse than being talked about, and that is not being talked about." OSCAR WILDE

    09/27/2009 06:09:09
    1. Re: [IoW] Re : A mischief maker in our midst
    2. Chris & Caroline
    3. Enough Enough! I can't take no more! First we had Homer (not sure if it was that yellow faced chap on TV) Now we have Pudsey! Will it be Pooh Bear nnext? Seriously though how about getting back to what we are here for? If Gill is correct then so be it, maybe the guilty party will let us all research our Family History/Genealogy in peace! ~Genealogist do it in trees!~ What do you mean, my birth certificate expired? Chris History of the villages of Dorset, Hampshire and Isle of Wight http://southernlife.org.uk ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gill Smith" <geneagill@i-zoom.net> To: "Isle of Wight List" <ISLE-OF-WIGHT@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, September 27, 2009 11:32 PM Subject: [IoW] Re : A mischief maker in our midst > Ladies and Gentlemen, > > This salutation does not include Roy Stockdale because he does not > fall into either category. > > This professional genealogist is an old hand at this game - drop into > a mailing list, join in a few discussions and wait for an oppurtunity to > set the cat among the pigeons (or sitting ducks). A simple question sets > him up nicely for his patented barrage of insults which are both cruel and > unwarranted. He claims to be "frankly astonished" when he knows full well > it is just the type of question that a "Newbie" would ask. > > Why this list is his target has not yet emerged, but a few months ago > he was unsubscribed from a list for exactly the same behavior. There he > subscribed to the list as Robin Lane-Pudsey apparently primarily to draw > the list administrator into a battle. The name, he later informed us with > glee, was actually "his dear old mum's address - Robin Lane, Pudsey, > Yorkshire. He retired from the list after handing out some extremely > rude comments. Why this admittedly well-informed man has to play these > tiresome and childish games when he has so much more he could offer is a > puzzle. > > But now people here have risen to his bait and are getting hot under > the collar and most conveniently fufilling his ambition to stir things up. > It has made the list lively for a few days but now it is uncomfortable and > should end. I have hopes that he will now retire from this one. > > Gill Smith > > ************************************** > You can contact the Isle of Wight List Administrator by emailing: > Isle-of-Wight-Admin@rootsweb.com > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ISLE-OF-WIGHT-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

    09/27/2009 05:52:56
    1. Re: [IoW] Impossible Place Name
    2. Chris & Caroline
    3. Could it be "not absolute" as in not absolutely sure? Chris ----- Original Message ----- From: "Roy Stockdill" <roy.stockdill@btinternet.com> To: <Isle-of-Wight-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, September 27, 2009 3:16 PM Subject: Re: [IoW] Impossible Place Name > On 26 Sep 2009 at 23:06, Ian Dunbar wrote: > >> Hello All, > >> I have no idea if this is related to the Isle of Wight as I can't read >> it! > >> Emily COUGHLAN is listed in the 1891 census as being born in (and this >> is what it looks like) B(e)ightminan not city > >> I have spent hours trying to work this out, and failed utterly. > >> It is here in the 1891 census. > >> Class: RG12; Piece: 219; Folio 62; Page 72; GSU roll: 6095329 > .....Snip rest..... > > The transcriber for Findmypast obviously thought it was supposed to be > Birmingham, > since that is what appears in the index. However, looking at the image the > two words > written in a different handwriting after the place name appear to me to be > "not abs" > (not city). Offhand, I've no idea what this means, but I would be > surprised if an > enumerator in 1891 didn't know how to spell Birmingham, even a London > enumerator. > > Have you tried finding her or any of the family in an earlier or later > census, or perhaps > in her maiden name (if you know it) before she was married? > > -- > Roy Stockdill > Professional genealogical researcher, writer & lecturer > Newbies' Guide to Genealogy & Family History: > www.genuki.org.uk/gs/Newbie.html > > "There is only one thing in the world worse than being talked about, > and that is not being talked about." > OSCAR WILDE > > > > ************************************** > You can contact the Isle of Wight List Administrator by emailing: > Isle-of-Wight-Admin@rootsweb.com > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ISLE-OF-WIGHT-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

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