It would be interesting to see what date He was given the Freedom of Ramsgate to see if there was a write up in the local paper. Will take a walk up Northdown and take some current pictures of Ivy Cottages. Its quite strange as the cottages used to stand alone and now have an estate built round them. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Anne Peat" <anne.peat@bigwindows.demon.co.uk> To: <Isle-of-Thanet-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, May 24, 2006 5:47 PM Subject: Re: [IoT] Updown Farm > Suzannah, yes, these were the JORDAN family, > John and his wife Eliza nee JOHNSON who had 7 sons - one of whom ( > Edwin) was my great grandfather ( lost at sea on the fishing smack LSD > in 1914) and another of whom, William, who married Eliza Ann CATT, was > the father of Sir William Joseph Jordan, High Commissioner of New > Zealand in London during WW2. > > John was an ag. lab, who worked for Taddy Friend ( according to Sir > William's speech when he was given the Freedom of Ramsgate) > > This is what I know about him: > 28 on 1851 census Northdown ( HO 107/ 1629 502 ) > 40 on 1861 census Cottage Northdown Margate St John RG09 534 9 11 > 48 in 1871 census at 80 Northdown Margate > 58 in April 1881 census ( Margate St John ) resident at 3 Ivy Cottages > Margate St John > 2 Ivy Cotts in 1891 aged 68 0984 7 8 > Resident at 20 Alexandra House Margate in 1901 census aged 79 > Lost one of his legs before 1901 > RG13 821 73 30 189 on 1901 census, > died at home of 'natural decay' possibly Superintendent of > Cavendish Sunday School ?( though that may be Joseph Catt) > Worked for James 'Taddy' Friend, farmer at Northdown all his life > > I understand that the Alexandra Homes where he ended his life were > endowed by Taddy Friend. > I have a photO of William Jordan senior, Sir William's father, standing > outside Ivy Cottages, but I would love to see what they look like now. > Many thanks, > Anne > On 24 May 2006, at 13:31, suzannah.foad wrote: > > > I have been looking for the Taddy Friends Grave at Margate and > > typically > > found it last week when I was cameraless. > > Were these ancestors of yours at Ivy Cottages? Can take some recent > > pictures > > for you if you like. > > Suzannah > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Anne Peat" <anne.peat@bigwindows.demon.co.uk> > > To: <Isle-of-Thanet-L@rootsweb.com> > > Sent: Tuesday, May 23, 2006 10:03 PM > > Subject: Re: [IoT] Updown Farm > > > > > >> My great-great grandfather John Jordan worked for 'Taddy' Friend all > >> his life ( according to Sir William Joseph Jordan) and lived at > >> Northdown. > >> Anne > >> On 23 May 2006, at 19:00, suzannah.foad wrote: > >> > >>> I don't suppose you have any pictures. I have two maps of the farm, > >>> one in > >>> the 1970's and one recently, the size of the Farm has altered > >>> considerably. > >>> Its often been mentioned but I had never seen it before so took a > >>> walk > >>> up to > >>> find it. Beautiful House. > >>> I have in my notes that a John Stokes farmed at Updown from the > >>> 1830-90's > >>> and the Friends were at Northdown and Brooksend. Always willing to > >>> learn > >>> more!! > >>> > >>> Thanks > >>> Suzannah > >>> > >> > >> > >> > >> -- > >> No virus found in this incoming message. > >> Checked by AVG Free Edition. > >> Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.7.0/345 - Release Date: 5/22/06 > >> > >> > > > > > > > > -- > > No virus found in this outgoing message. > > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > > Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.7.0/346 - Release Date: 5/23/06 > > > > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.7.0/346 - Release Date: 5/23/06 > > -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.7.0/346 - Release Date: 5/23/06

Oh there was. He was made a Freeman on 18 March 1937 There was a very helpful lady at Ramsgate Library ( before the fire) who sent me several photocopies of the articles in the Thanet papers. This is a summary of what I know about Sir William: In 1881 living at 13 Adeleide Gardens Ramsgate aged 1 moved to London aged 4and a half. in 1891 at 5 Rohere St St Luke Holborn London RG12 230 143 3 Hse 14 aged left school at 12 living at 14 Brooksby Street, Islington in 1901 Emigrated to NZ from London in 1904 in ship Corinthic. Served in NZ forces WW1. Founder member of NZ Labour Party. Methodist Local preacher NZ High Commissioner in London 1935-1951 made Freeman of Ramsgate 18 March 1937 Freeman of City of London 1948 Hon Doctor of Laws, Cambridge 1951 Knighted Nov 1952 Lived at 26 Riddell Rd. St Heliers, Aukland. Jordan Fruit Panel Bowl left as trophy for cricket matches between England and NZ Anne On 24 May 2006, at 18:07, suzannah.foad wrote: > It would be interesting to see what date He was given the Freedom of > Ramsgate to see if there was a write up in the local paper. > Will take a walk up Northdown and take some current pictures of Ivy > Cottages. > Its quite strange as the cottages used to stand alone and now have an > estate > built round them. > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Anne Peat" <anne.peat@bigwindows.demon.co.uk> > To: <Isle-of-Thanet-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Wednesday, May 24, 2006 5:47 PM > Subject: Re: [IoT] Updown Farm > > >> Suzannah, yes, these were the JORDAN family, >> John and his wife Eliza nee JOHNSON who had 7 sons - one of whom ( >> Edwin) was my great grandfather ( lost at sea on the fishing smack LSD >> in 1914) and another of whom, William, who married Eliza Ann CATT, was >> the father of Sir William Joseph Jordan, High Commissioner of New >> Zealand in London during WW2. >> >> John was an ag. lab, who worked for Taddy Friend ( according to Sir >> William's speech when he was given the Freedom of Ramsgate) >> >> This is what I know about him: >> 28 on 1851 census Northdown ( HO 107/ 1629 502 ) >> 40 on 1861 census Cottage Northdown Margate St John RG09 534 9 11 >> 48 in 1871 census at 80 Northdown Margate >> 58 in April 1881 census ( Margate St John ) resident at 3 Ivy Cottages >> Margate St John >> 2 Ivy Cotts in 1891 aged 68 0984 7 8 >> Resident at 20 Alexandra House Margate in 1901 census aged 79 >> Lost one of his legs before 1901 >> RG13 821 73 30 189 on 1901 census, >> died at home of 'natural decay' possibly Superintendent of >> Cavendish Sunday School ?( though that may be Joseph Catt) >> Worked for James 'Taddy' Friend, farmer at Northdown all his life >> >> I understand that the Alexandra Homes where he ended his life were >> endowed by Taddy Friend. >> I have a photO of William Jordan senior, Sir William's father, >> standing >> outside Ivy Cottages, but I would love to see what they look like now. >> Many thanks, >> Anne >> On 24 May 2006, at 13:31, suzannah.foad wrote: >> >>> I have been looking for the Taddy Friends Grave at Margate and >>> typically >>> found it last week when I was cameraless. >>> Were these ancestors of yours at Ivy Cottages? Can take some recent >>> pictures >>> for you if you like. >>> Suzannah >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> From: "Anne Peat" <anne.peat@bigwindows.demon.co.uk> >>> To: <Isle-of-Thanet-L@rootsweb.com> >>> Sent: Tuesday, May 23, 2006 10:03 PM >>> Subject: Re: [IoT] Updown Farm >>> >>> >>>> My great-great grandfather John Jordan worked for 'Taddy' Friend all >>>> his life ( according to Sir William Joseph Jordan) and lived at >>>> Northdown. >>>> Anne >>>> On 23 May 2006, at 19:00, suzannah.foad wrote: >>>> >>>>> I don't suppose you have any pictures. I have two maps of the farm, >>>>> one in >>>>> the 1970's and one recently, the size of the Farm has altered >>>>> considerably. >>>>> Its often been mentioned but I had never seen it before so took a >>>>> walk >>>>> up to >>>>> find it. Beautiful House. >>>>> I have in my notes that a John Stokes farmed at Updown from the >>>>> 1830-90's >>>>> and the Friends were at Northdown and Brooksend. Always willing to >>>>> learn >>>>> more!! >>>>> >>>>> Thanks >>>>> Suzannah >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> No virus found in this incoming message. >>>> Checked by AVG Free Edition. >>>> Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.7.0/345 - Release Date: >>>> 5/22/06 >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> No virus found in this outgoing message. >>> Checked by AVG Free Edition. >>> Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.7.0/346 - Release Date: >>> 5/23/06 >>> >> >> >> >> -- >> No virus found in this incoming message. >> Checked by AVG Free Edition. >> Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.7.0/346 - Release Date: 5/23/06 >> >> > > > > -- > No virus found in this outgoing message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.7.0/346 - Release Date: 5/23/06 >

Hi Anne, Adelaide Gardens is still standing. Do you want me to take a piccy of it for you ? Pat.xxx :o)) A Maid of Kent Oh there was. He was made a Freeman on 18 March 1937 There was a very helpful lady at Ramsgate Library ( before the fire) who sent me several photocopies of the articles in the Thanet papers. This is a summary of what I know about Sir William: In 1881 living at 13 Adeleide Gardens Ramsgate aged 1 moved to London aged 4and a half. in 1891 at 5 Rohere St St Luke Holborn London RG12 230 143 3 Hse 14 aged left school at 12 living at 14 Brooksby Street, Islington in 1901 Emigrated to NZ from London in 1904 in ship Corinthic. Served in NZ forces WW1. Founder member of NZ Labour Party. Methodist Local preacher NZ High Commissioner in London 1935-1951 made Freeman of Ramsgate 18 March 1937 Freeman of City of London 1948 Hon Doctor of Laws, Cambridge 1951 Knighted Nov 1952 Lived at 26 Riddell Rd. St Heliers, Aukland. Jordan Fruit Panel Bowl left as trophy for cricket matches between England and NZ Anne On 24 May 2006, at 18:07, suzannah.foad wrote: > It would be interesting to see what date He was given the Freedom of > Ramsgate to see if there was a write up in the local paper. > Will take a walk up Northdown and take some current pictures of Ivy > Cottages. > Its quite strange as the cottages used to stand alone and now have an > estate > built round them. > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Anne Peat" <anne.peat@bigwindows.demon.co.uk> > To: <Isle-of-Thanet-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Wednesday, May 24, 2006 5:47 PM > Subject: Re: [IoT] Updown Farm > > >> Suzannah, yes, these were the JORDAN family, >> John and his wife Eliza nee JOHNSON who had 7 sons - one of whom ( >> Edwin) was my great grandfather ( lost at sea on the fishing smack LSD >> in 1914) and another of whom, William, who married Eliza Ann CATT, was >> the father of Sir William Joseph Jordan, High Commissioner of New >> Zealand in London during WW2. >> >> John was an ag. lab, who worked for Taddy Friend ( according to Sir >> William's speech when he was given the Freedom of Ramsgate) >> >> This is what I know about him: >> 28 on 1851 census Northdown ( HO 107/ 1629 502 ) >> 40 on 1861 census Cottage Northdown Margate St John RG09 534 9 11 >> 48 in 1871 census at 80 Northdown Margate >> 58 in April 1881 census ( Margate St John ) resident at 3 Ivy Cottages >> Margate St John >> 2 Ivy Cotts in 1891 aged 68 0984 7 8 >> Resident at 20 Alexandra House Margate in 1901 census aged 79 >> Lost one of his legs before 1901 >> RG13 821 73 30 189 on 1901 census, >> died at home of 'natural decay' possibly Superintendent of >> Cavendish Sunday School ?( though that may be Joseph Catt) >> Worked for James 'Taddy' Friend, farmer at Northdown all his life >> >> I understand that the Alexandra Homes where he ended his life were >> endowed by Taddy Friend. >> I have a photO of William Jordan senior, Sir William's father, >> standing >> outside Ivy Cottages, but I would love to see what they look like now. >> Many thanks, >> Anne >> On 24 May 2006, at 13:31, suzannah.foad wrote: >> >>> I have been looking for the Taddy Friends Grave at Margate and >>> typically >>> found it last week when I was cameraless. >>> Were these ancestors of yours at Ivy Cottages? Can take some recent >>> pictures >>> for you if you like. >>> Suzannah >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> From: "Anne Peat" <anne.peat@bigwindows.demon.co.uk> >>> To: <Isle-of-Thanet-L@rootsweb.com> >>> Sent: Tuesday, May 23, 2006 10:03 PM >>> Subject: Re: [IoT] Updown Farm >>> >>> >>>> My great-great grandfather John Jordan worked for 'Taddy' Friend all >>>> his life ( according to Sir William Joseph Jordan) and lived at >>>> Northdown. >>>> Anne >>>> On 23 May 2006, at 19:00, suzannah.foad wrote: >>>> >>>>> I don't suppose you have any pictures. I have two maps of the farm, >>>>> one in >>>>> the 1970's and one recently, the size of the Farm has altered >>>>> considerably. >>>>> Its often been mentioned but I had never seen it before so took a >>>>> walk >>>>> up to >>>>> find it. Beautiful House. >>>>> I have in my notes that a John Stokes farmed at Updown from the >>>>> 1830-90's >>>>> and the Friends were at Northdown and Brooksend. Always willing to >>>>> learn >>>>> more!! >>>>> >>>>> Thanks >>>>> Suzannah >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> No virus found in this incoming message. >>>> Checked by AVG Free Edition. >>>> Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.7.0/345 - Release Date: >>>> 5/22/06 >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> No virus found in this outgoing message. >>> Checked by AVG Free Edition. >>> Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.7.0/346 - Release Date: >>> 5/23/06 >>> >> >> >> >> -- >> No virus found in this incoming message. >> Checked by AVG Free Edition. >> Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.7.0/346 - Release Date: 5/23/06 >> >> > > > > -- > No virus found in this outgoing message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.7.0/346 - Release Date: 5/23/06 >