Hi, I am no relation but I made a quick call to the golf club to-day, they have a website with a contact on it, and the secretary said if you email them direct they will try to help you. Regards Joan. -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Arlene Halme Sent: 13 October 2009 03:46 To: [email protected] Subject: [Isle-of-Thanet] new to list looking for Ivy FALCONER married to Herbert KEENE Mar 1940 died 1975 Looking for assistance in tracing Ivy Mary Kirby FALCONER born Perth, Scotland 1912 , died in Thanet 1975. Married Herbert C KEENE 1940 Thanet. Have just ordered their marriage cert in hopes of determining which of 2 Herbert C KEENE's she married in 1940. Ivy was born to parents Margaret LEONARD born Panbride, Angus, Scotland and William FALCONER born Dundee, Angus, Scotland. They also had a son Alexander born in Edinburgh. William was a Lance Serjeant with the 2nd Royal Scots when he was killed in action in August 1914 in France. Margaret later married John HAY and had 2 more children. When Ivy was about 12 she went to live with Margaret's sister, Helen LEONARD in Margate (Glenthorne Private Hotel in Sea Road, Westgate), Kent. Helen had been in the employ of Lord and Lady Cayzer of Kilperinie, Angus, Scotland and somehow ended up running a guesthouse. She had the guesthouse until the Royal Navy appropriated it during WW2. The family tale was that Ivy married a much older man against the advice of Helen and Margaret and had a falling out with the family. When I started into genealogy in 1970 no one had heard of Ivy since the marriage. Each Leonard I found had the same response, that no one had heard from Ivy after her marriage. With the recent addition of the GRO indexes online and the assistance of some kind listers from the Angus Rootsweb list I have been able to determine Ivy's marriage in 1940. I have ordered the cert online in hopes of obtaining a bit more information such as address in Thanet and the age of Herbert. I found 2 Herbert C's one born in 1885 and the other born in 1909. If the tale has some truth then the 1885 Herbert is the husband but it could easily be the 1909 Herbert. Wondering if anyone on the list might have access to an obituary in mid 1975 for Ivy (Died A M J 1975 Dist Thanet Vol 16 Page 1901) as I understand an English death cert does not contain very much information. The younger Herbert C. died in May 1990 in Barnet, London (died A M J 1990 Vol 11, page 180, Reg 590) but could not find an appropriate death for the older Herbert C. I believe Ivy and Helen could have been members of the Westgate and Birchington Golf Club is it possible this Herbert C. Keene was also a member. I was able to obtain some information from British Phone books and it appears H.C. Keene lived at West Wing, Royal Esplanade Margate Thanet for the 1951, 1952, 1953, 1961 issues then the 1963, 64,70, 71,, 73, 73 and 75 show I. M. Keene at 4 Park Clo, Queen Elizabeth Ave, Cliftonville, Thanet. Might there be someone on the list familiar with these two people. OR where I might search next to confirm I have the right people. From a quick search of the birth indexes it does not appear this couple had children. Thank you for any assistance or leads in this mystery. Arlene Canada ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message