Hi Jackie If my sleuthing is correct I think the parents are Edwin WEBSTER (Barristers clerk) and Sarah Ann BILLOWS ( married 1851 Marylebone District), as on the 1861 census. Ref follows - RG9; Piece: 15; Folio: 107; Page: 72 They have a Kate of the same age. Could Emily on the father's occupation actually be Edwin? I'll keep searching to check this family out. Cheers Andy ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jackie Phillips" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, July 21, 2009 2:08 PM Subject: [Isle-of-Thanet] Weird marriage certificate. Can anyone check the original for Holy Trinity Margate for me please? >I applied for and received today from the GRO a very odd marriage > certificate. > 20th August 1887 Holy Trinity Parish Church Margate. After Banns > Thomas Pearson, age 27, bachelor, occupation Traveller, residence 7 > Lion Place, father John Pearson Gentleman - that's all ok so far but > wife's details are > Kate Emily Webster, age 26, spinster, no occupation, residence, 60 > Trinity Square, Fathers name Emily Webster, occupation Barrister!!! > Now I have heard of women's lib but...! I have seen marriage > certificates with the mothers name on instead of the fathers but in this > case coupled with the occupation I am rather confused. > I am wondering if there is a mistranscription somewhere in the records > that the GRO have and wonder if the original PRs have something > different. Can anyone who has the transcripts assist in double checking > the fathers details please > > Many thanks from a confused Jackie > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >

Hi Andy, I'm curious - while the Edwin looks good, I've just looked at the transcript and image of the ref. below and cannot see a Kate. I was also searching the censuses but started with the 1891 looking for a father. I found a Reginald, a solicitor in Margate, but he was too young for Kate's father. However on the 1861 there is a Reginald, son of John who was also a Solicitor. On FreeBMD there is a Kate Emily Webster birth in June quarter 1861 in Kensington who could be Jackie's. Terry, Oakville, Ontario >If my sleuthing is correct I think the parents are Edwin WEBSTER (Barristers clerk) and Sarah Ann BILLOWS ( married 1851 Marylebone District), as on the 1861 census. Ref follows - RG9; Piece: 15; Folio: 107; Page: 72 They have a Kate of the same age.

Yes, sorry, you're quite right. I managed to split my research into 2! Kate is on the 1871 with Ada Mary WEBSTER (b1857 Kensington), and Clara [Edith] WEBSTER (b1863 Kensington). Ada is on the 1861 with Edwin and Sarah Ann WEBSTER. If it was my decision I would get the birth cert of the Kensington Kate Emily WEBSTER as that would then confirm that this is the right lot of WEBSTERs. On RootsChat.com there is a suggestion that Sarah Ann WEBSTER died in 1865. I couldn't find Edwin from a quick search either as a death record or on later census from 1861. Cheers Andy ----- Original Message ----- From: "Terry Taylor" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, July 21, 2009 6:11 PM Subject: Re: [Isle-of-Thanet] Weird marriage certificate. Can anyonecheckthe original for Holy Trinity Margate for me please? > Hi Andy, > I'm curious - while the Edwin looks good, I've just looked at the > transcript > and image of the ref. below and cannot see a Kate. > > I was also searching the censuses but started with the 1891 looking for a > father. I found a Reginald, a solicitor in Margate, but he was too young > for Kate's father. However on the 1861 there is a Reginald, son of John > who > was also a Solicitor. On FreeBMD there is a Kate Emily Webster birth in > June quarter 1861 in Kensington who could be Jackie's. > Terry, Oakville, Ontario > >>If my sleuthing is correct I think the parents are Edwin WEBSTER > (Barristers > clerk) and Sarah Ann BILLOWS ( married 1851 Marylebone District), as on > the > 1861 census. Ref follows - RG9; Piece: 15; Folio: 107; Page: 72 > They have a Kate of the same age. > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >

I'd found the same Kate in 1871 but was considering her with John as the father. Now I think Edwin more likely considering Ada. The Kate Emily birth certificate is probably right and would be the answer if Jackie wants to be sure. A quick check of 1881 on Family Search gives an Edwin born in Lambeth (but in 1836) with Sarah Ann, wife born in Hampshire (but 1847). They had a son called Frederick too but again the date of birth was out. This Edwin's occupation is a Tobacconist but I suppose it could be a retirement job. Terry >Kate is on the 1871 with Ada Mary WEBSTER (b1857 Kensington), and Clara [Edith] WEBSTER (b1863 Kensington). Ada is on the 1861 with Edwin and Sarah Ann WEBSTER.

I popped into the library while on another errand and typically the Holy Trinity Registers only go up to 1886! One year out. I also checked the Keble's gazette but no announcement. I'll try another avenue.  Zion Place is correct   ----- Original Message ---- From: Andy Hedgcock <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Sent: Tuesday, 21 July, 2009 2:58:07 PM Subject: Re: [Isle-of-Thanet] Weird marriage certificate. Can anyone check the original for Holy Trinity Margate for me please? Hi Jackie If my sleuthing is correct I think the parents are Edwin WEBSTER (Barristers clerk) and Sarah Ann BILLOWS ( married 1851 Marylebone District), as on the 1861 census. Ref follows - RG9; Piece: 15; Folio: 107; Page: 72 They have a Kate of the same age. Could Emily on the father's occupation actually be Edwin? I'll keep searching to check this family out. Cheers Andy ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jackie Phillips" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, July 21, 2009 2:08 PM Subject: [Isle-of-Thanet] Weird marriage certificate. Can anyone check the original for Holy Trinity Margate for me please? >I applied for and received today from the GRO a very odd marriage > certificate. > 20th August 1887 Holy Trinity Parish Church Margate. After Banns > Thomas  Pearson, age 27, bachelor, occupation Traveller, residence 7 > Lion Place, father John Pearson Gentleman - that's all ok so far but > wife's details are > Kate Emily Webster, age 26, spinster, no occupation, residence, 60 > Trinity Square, Fathers name Emily Webster, occupation Barrister!!! > Now I have heard of women's lib but...! I have seen marriage > certificates with the mothers name on instead of the fathers but in this > case coupled with the occupation I am rather confused. > I am wondering if there is a mistranscription somewhere in the records > that the GRO have and wonder if the original PRs have something > different. Can anyone  who has the transcripts assist in double checking > the fathers details please > > Many thanks from a confused Jackie > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message