I too had a look and no luck. I cannot think what else to look up as he may not have been Page at birth. Could the letters have belonged to someone else in the family. Do you have any other Buddington's marrying Page's? Margate Local & Family History --- On Wed, 8/12/10, Suzanne Hearn <suzanne.hearn@ntlworld.com> wrote: > From: Suzanne Hearn <suzanne.hearn@ntlworld.com> > Subject: Re: [Isle-of-Thanet] Buddington Page Spain > To: isle-of-thanet@rootsweb.com > Date: Wednesday, 8 December, 2010, 8:52 > Thanks Suzannah, I'll try that if I > can find his birth - I can't see it in > freeBMD - any idea how else I could get it? > > Suzy > > > > From: isle-of-thanet-bounces@rootsweb.com > [mailto:isle-of-thanet-bounces@rootsweb.com] > On Behalf Of Suzannah Foad > Sent: 06 December 2010 16:05 > To: isle-of-thanet@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [Isle-of-Thanet] Buddington Page Spain > > > > Two ideas > > Look for F J Page's birth to send off for the certificate > and find his > parents > > Also, try ancestry to see if they have his army service > records which may > also give a next of kin etc > > Suzannah > > Margate Local & Family History > > > --- On Mon, 6/12/10, Suzanne Hearn <suzanne.hearn@ntlworld.com> > wrote: > > > From: Suzanne Hearn <suzanne.hearn@ntlworld.com> > > Subject: Re: [Isle-of-Thanet] Buddington Page Spain > > To: isle-of-thanet@rootsweb.com > > Date: Monday, 6 December, 2010, 12:00 > > Thanks to all for your input - sorry > > I'm a little slow in responding - we > > have some technical problems here! > > > > > > > > In my family we were always aware of Frank Buddington > as > > the 'only' son from > > William's first marriage. John was never mentioned by > my > > grandmother or > > great aunts and my mum didn't know about him. As I > say, I > > do have John's > > 'Little Book' from the army as well as the letter sent > to > > my GG grandfather > > William when John died. I also have FJ Page's 'Little > > Book' > > > > > > > > I am basing the clues I have about FJ Page on some > > assumptions. I don't have > > the envelopes that went with them but they are > addressed to > > 'mother' and > > talk about little Frank and Hannah and 'healthy little > Tom > > and Ted' (my next > > 2 great uncles). He signs himself 'your loving son > William' > > and in one > > letter 'Bill' but is always clear to show them how to > > address the letters:- > > J W Page, F Company, Chatham Barracks,  Reg No > 2773. > > (in December 1899). A > > year later he was writing from Malta. > > > > > > > > He also asks for the address of Alfred Horn - my > > GGgrandfather's sister, > > Mary Buddington was married to a Charles Horn. > > > > > > > > Strangely, although his name is clearly written as > > 'Frederick John Page' in > > his army book he signs it (on the same page of his > 'Little > > Book') as F W > > Page. He enlisted on the 19th October 1899 at the age > of 18 > > years and 5 > > months. It states that he was born in the town of > Margate > > in Kent and was a > > labourer. I suppose he could have lied about his age. > In > > any event, it looks > > like he would have been born before William > Buddington's > > first marriage so > > maybe he was an illegitimate son. > > > > > > > > On a slight tangent, to Elizabeth Clark: are you > descended > > from ancestors of > > Caroline Chesterman? If so I have some original > documents > > that might be of > > interest to you including the original marriage > certificate > > of James > > Chesterman and Sarah Clarke and lots more! > > > > > > > > Thanks again for your suggestions so far! > > > > > > > > Suzanne > > > > > > > > From: isle-of-thanet-bounces@rootsweb.com > > [mailto:isle-of-thanet-bounces@rootsweb.com] > > On Behalf Of Elizabeth Clark > > Sent: 05 December 2010 14:01 > > To: isle-of-thanet@rootsweb.com > > Subject: Re: [Isle-of-Thanet] Buddington Page Spain > > > > > > > > No, Caroline wasn't married previously according to > her > > marriage cert (May > > 13th, 1888). She was 29 years old and names her father > as > > James CHESTERMAN, > > Decorator. William says his father was John > BUDDINGTON, > > Deceased, Labourer. > > > > According to the census that Suzannah quoted, John > and > > Frank were both born > > in Garlinge. Would be a good idea to check the PR to > see if > > you can find > > their baptisms. Perhaps Frank wasn't their son, but > son of > > relative and > > brought up with this couple. > > > > Best wishes > > > > Elizabeth > > > > On Sun, Dec 5, 2010 at 7:38 AM, Suzannah Foad > <suzannah.foad@btopenworld.com > > > wrote: > > > > > I see on the 1891 Census William is listed with > two > > sons that he had with > > > Harriet > > > > > > William Buddington 31 > > > Caroline Buddington 36 > > > John W Buddington 6 > > > Frank A Buddington 5 > > > Hannah K Buddington 1 > > > > > > Births Jun 1884 > > > Buddington  John William    > > Thanet  2a 916 > > > > > > Births Mar 1886 > > > BUDDINGTON  Francis Anthony > >    Thanet  2a 965 > > > Name:  Francis A C Buddington > > > Death:  Camberwell, London, England > > > Death:  Oct-Nov-Dec 1957 > > > > > > You say that FJ Page mentions your grandmother > > siblings, but does he > > > mention them as his own siblings? I take it this > would > > Caroline Chesterman > > > that the letters were addressed to? Was she > married > > previously? > > > > > > > > > Margate Local & Family History > > > > > > > > > --- On Thu, 2/12/10, Suzanne Hearn <suzanne.hearn@ntlworld.com> > > wrote: > > > > > > > From: Suzanne Hearn <suzanne.hearn@ntlworld.com> > > > > Subject: [Isle-of-Thanet] Buddington Page > Spain > > > > To: isle-of-thanet@rootsweb.com > > > > Date: Thursday, 2 December, 2010, 17:50 > > >  > Dear Suzannah, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I wonder if anyone can help me, I have a > > full-scale mystery > > > > on my hands! My > > > > Great grandfather, William Buddington (born > 1859 > > in Minster > > > > in Thanet) . He > > > > was married twice, once to Harriet Spain who > died > > in a > > > > drowning incident in > > > > 1886 and then to Caroline Chesterman. I am > aware > > of most of > > > > his offspring > > > > (including my grandmother). Until recently > I > > thought he had > > > > only had one > > > > child with Harriet Spain but I have recently > been > > given > > > > some letters which > > > > reveal he had a son who was in the army > (Royal > > Warwickshire > > > > regiment) and > > > > who died of pneumonia in Dublin in December > > 1901. > > > > > > > > Along with the letters from him (John > William > > Buddington) > > > > there were also > > > > letters and the army's 'Little Book' > belonging to > > a > > > > Frederick John Page. > > > > There were also letters from FJ Page > addressed to > > 'mother' > > > > and mentioning by > > > > name my grandmothers siblings as brothers > and > > sisters. I > > > > don't understand > > > > how it can be that this soldier (from the > 3rd > > battalion > > > > Royal West Kent > > > > Regiment) could be related to my great > > grandparents. > > > > > > > > It's all a bit of a mystery - I wonder if > you > > have any idea > > > > how I could > > > > start to unravel the clues? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanking you in anticipation > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Suzanne Hearn > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send > an > > email to > > > ISLE-OF-THANET-request@rootsweb.com > > > > with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in > > the > > > > subject and the body of the message > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an > email to > > > ISLE-OF-THANET-request@rootsweb.com > > with the word 'unsubscribe' without > > > the quotes in the subject and the body of the > message > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > ISLE-OF-THANET-request@rootsweb.com > > with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > >   _____ > > > > No virus found in this message. > > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > > Version: 10.0.1170 / Virus Database: 426/3299 - > Release > > Date: 12/05/10 > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ISLE-OF-THANET-request@rootsweb.com > > with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the > > subject and the body of the message > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ISLE-OF-THANET-request@rootsweb.com > with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >   _____  > > No virus found in this message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 10.0.1170 / Virus Database: 426/3302 - Release > Date: 12/07/10 > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ISLE-OF-THANET-request@rootsweb.com > with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the > subject and the body of the message >

I haven't found anyone else by the name of Page at all in the family - I suppose the letters could have been to someone else but the frequent mention of other of my great aunts and uncles by name suggest otherwise. Maybe I should just start to look at all the Pages from Margate at that time? From: isle-of-thanet-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:isle-of-thanet-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Suzannah Foad Sent: 08 December 2010 14:07 To: isle-of-thanet@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [Isle-of-Thanet] Buddington Page Spain I too had a look and no luck. I cannot think what else to look up as he may not have been Page at birth. Could the letters have belonged to someone else in the family. Do you have any other Buddington's marrying Page's? Margate Local & Family History --- On Wed, 8/12/10, Suzanne Hearn <suzanne.hearn@ntlworld.com> wrote: > From: Suzanne Hearn <suzanne.hearn@ntlworld.com> > Subject: Re: [Isle-of-Thanet] Buddington Page Spain > To: isle-of-thanet@rootsweb.com > Date: Wednesday, 8 December, 2010, 8:52 > Thanks Suzannah, I'll try that if I > can find his birth - I can't see it in > freeBMD - any idea how else I could get it? > > Suzy > > > > From: isle-of-thanet-bounces@rootsweb.com > [mailto:isle-of-thanet-bounces@rootsweb.com] > On Behalf Of Suzannah Foad > Sent: 06 December 2010 16:05 > To: isle-of-thanet@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [Isle-of-Thanet] Buddington Page Spain > > > > Two ideas > > Look for F J Page's birth to send off for the certificate > and find his > parents > > Also, try ancestry to see if they have his army service > records which may > also give a next of kin etc > > Suzannah > > Margate Local & Family History > > > --- On Mon, 6/12/10, Suzanne Hearn <suzanne.hearn@ntlworld.com> > wrote: > > > From: Suzanne Hearn <suzanne.hearn@ntlworld.com> > > Subject: Re: [Isle-of-Thanet] Buddington Page Spain > > To: isle-of-thanet@rootsweb.com > > Date: Monday, 6 December, 2010, 12:00 > > Thanks to all for your input - sorry > > I'm a little slow in responding - we > > have some technical problems here! > > > > > > > > In my family we were always aware of Frank Buddington > as > > the 'only' son from > > William's first marriage. John was never mentioned by > my > > grandmother or > > great aunts and my mum didn't know about him. As I > say, I > > do have John's > > 'Little Book' from the army as well as the letter sent > to > > my GG grandfather > > William when John died. I also have FJ Page's 'Little > > Book' > > > > > > > > I am basing the clues I have about FJ Page on some > > assumptions. I don't have > > the envelopes that went with them but they are > addressed to > > 'mother' and > > talk about little Frank and Hannah and 'healthy little > Tom > > and Ted' (my next > > 2 great uncles). He signs himself 'your loving son > William' > > and in one > > letter 'Bill' but is always clear to show them how to > > address the letters:- > > J W Page, F Company, Chatham Barracks, Reg No > 2773. > > (in December 1899). A > > year later he was writing from Malta. > > > > > > > > He also asks for the address of Alfred Horn - my > > GGgrandfather's sister, > > Mary Buddington was married to a Charles Horn. > > > > > > > > Strangely, although his name is clearly written as > > 'Frederick John Page' in > > his army book he signs it (on the same page of his > 'Little > > Book') as F W > > Page. He enlisted on the 19th October 1899 at the age > of 18 > > years and 5 > > months. It states that he was born in the town of > Margate > > in Kent and was a > > labourer. I suppose he could have lied about his age. > In > > any event, it looks > > like he would have been born before William > Buddington's > > first marriage so > > maybe he was an illegitimate son. > > > > > > > > On a slight tangent, to Elizabeth Clark: are you > descended > > from ancestors of > > Caroline Chesterman? If so I have some original > documents > > that might be of > > interest to you including the original marriage > certificate > > of James > > Chesterman and Sarah Clarke and lots more! > > > > > > > > Thanks again for your suggestions so far! > > > > > > > > Suzanne > > > > > > > > From: isle-of-thanet-bounces@rootsweb.com > > [mailto:isle-of-thanet-bounces@rootsweb.com] > > On Behalf Of Elizabeth Clark > > Sent: 05 December 2010 14:01 > > To: isle-of-thanet@rootsweb.com > > Subject: Re: [Isle-of-Thanet] Buddington Page Spain > > > > > > > > No, Caroline wasn't married previously according to > her > > marriage cert (May > > 13th, 1888). She was 29 years old and names her father > as > > James CHESTERMAN, > > Decorator. William says his father was John > BUDDINGTON, > > Deceased, Labourer. > > > > According to the census that Suzannah quoted, John > and > > Frank were both born > > in Garlinge. Would be a good idea to check the PR to > see if > > you can find > > their baptisms. Perhaps Frank wasn't their son, but > son of > > relative and > > brought up with this couple. > > > > Best wishes > > > > Elizabeth > > > > On Sun, Dec 5, 2010 at 7:38 AM, Suzannah Foad > <suzannah.foad@btopenworld.com > > > wrote: > > > > > I see on the 1891 Census William is listed with > two > > sons that he had with > > > Harriet > > > > > > William Buddington 31 > > > Caroline Buddington 36 > > > John W Buddington 6 > > > Frank A Buddington 5 > > > Hannah K Buddington 1 > > > > > > Births Jun 1884 > > > Buddington John William > > Thanet 2a 916 > > > > > > Births Mar 1886 > > > BUDDINGTON Francis Anthony > > Thanet 2a 965 > > > Name: Francis A C Buddington > > > Death: Camberwell, London, England > > > Death: Oct-Nov-Dec 1957 > > > > > > You say that FJ Page mentions your grandmother > > siblings, but does he > > > mention them as his own siblings? I take it this > would > > Caroline Chesterman > > > that the letters were addressed to? Was she > married > > previously? > > > > > > > > > Margate Local & Family History > > > > > > > > > --- On Thu, 2/12/10, Suzanne Hearn <suzanne.hearn@ntlworld.com> > > wrote: > > > > > > > From: Suzanne Hearn <suzanne.hearn@ntlworld.com> > > > > Subject: [Isle-of-Thanet] Buddington Page > Spain > > > > To: isle-of-thanet@rootsweb.com > > > > Date: Thursday, 2 December, 2010, 17:50 > > > > Dear Suzannah, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I wonder if anyone can help me, I have a > > full-scale mystery > > > > on my hands! My > > > > Great grandfather, William Buddington (born > 1859 > > in Minster > > > > in Thanet) . He > > > > was married twice, once to Harriet Spain who > died > > in a > > > > drowning incident in > > > > 1886 and then to Caroline Chesterman. I am > aware > > of most of > > > > his offspring > > > > (including my grandmother). Until recently > I > > thought he had > > > > only had one > > > > child with Harriet Spain but I have recently > been > > given > > > > some letters which > > > > reveal he had a son who was in the army > (Royal > > Warwickshire > > > > regiment) and > > > > who died of pneumonia in Dublin in December > > 1901. > > > > > > > > Along with the letters from him (John > William > > Buddington) > > > > there were also > > > > letters and the army's 'Little Book' > belonging to > > a > > > > Frederick John Page. > > > > There were also letters from FJ Page > addressed to > > 'mother' > > > > and mentioning by > > > > name my grandmothers siblings as brothers > and > > sisters. I > > > > don't understand > > > > how it can be that this soldier (from the > 3rd > > battalion > > > > Royal West Kent > > > > Regiment) could be related to my great > > grandparents. > > > > > > > > It's all a bit of a mystery - I wonder if > you > > have any idea > > > > how I could > > > > start to unravel the clues? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanking you in anticipation > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Suzanne Hearn > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send > an > > email to > > > ISLE-OF-THANET-request@rootsweb.com > > > > with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in > > the > > > > subject and the body of the message > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an > email to > > > ISLE-OF-THANET-request@rootsweb.com > > with the word 'unsubscribe' without > > > the quotes in the subject and the body of the > message > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > ISLE-OF-THANET-request@rootsweb.com > > with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > _____ > > > > No virus found in this message. > > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > > Version: 10.0.1170 / Virus Database: 426/3299 - > Release > > Date: 12/05/10 > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ISLE-OF-THANET-request@rootsweb.com > > with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the > > subject and the body of the message > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ISLE-OF-THANET-request@rootsweb.com > with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > _____ > > No virus found in this message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 10.0.1170 / Virus Database: 426/3302 - Release > Date: 12/07/10 > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ISLE-OF-THANET-request@rootsweb.com > with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the > subject and the body of the message > ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ISLE-OF-THANET-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message _____ No virus found in this message. 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