Joan You can find Ann visiting her married sister Sarah Emptage (married Joseph Clark 13 Jun 1829 - Birchington) in Islington. Ann is with her daughter Grace (Isabella), son James (Heneage - looks like he was born 23 Jun 1837) and son William (Alfred). In Ancestry, their surname has been transcribed as Gerdes. The source citation is: Class: HO107 / Piece: 1502 / Folio: 490 / Page: 3. I would guess that Ann's husband was the James Ginder baptised in Whitstable on 26 Jun 1814. Isabella Grace Ginder married either William Coles or Thomas King in Q3 1861 Islington Middlesex 1b 465 Robin