Thank you Joan and Robin for your help. I should have given Frederick Samuel YOUNG's birth date as 1849. The Frederick Young burial that you kindly located was of his father. I have not found my elusive Frederick Samuel Young in any 1891 census in England, although his wife was still in Margate in that census, enumerated as married and not widowed. So I assumed that he might have died before the census and the information on his wife therefore faulty. Alternatively, he might have been missed by the census being away from home. Certainly by the 1901 census his wife was a widow but living in Brighton (her age, birthplace and details of still resident children are all correct). So as another possibility I have to conclude that they must have moved away from Thanet and that he died away from Thanet, but where I don't know. I assume that there were not other later Frederick YOUNGs buried in St John's other than the one you both found? Many thanks again. Roger Young -----Original Message----- From: isle-of-thanet-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:isle-of-thanet-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of isle-of-thanet-request@rootsweb.com Sent: 01 January 2011 08:01 To: isle-of-thanet@rootsweb.com Subject: ISLE-OF-THANET Digest, Vol 6, Issue 1 Today's Topics: 1. Late 19th Century Burial Records for St John's ( YOUNG) (Roger Young) 2. Re: Late 19th Century Burial Records for St John's ( YOUNG) (Joan Leary) 3. Re: Late 19th Century Burial Records for St John's ( YOUNG) (Robin Harlow) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Fri, 31 Dec 2010 09:20:08 -0000 From: "Roger Young" <young@deane87.freeserve.co.uk> Subject: [Isle-of-Thanet] Late 19th Century Burial Records for St John's ( YOUNG) To: <isle-of-thanet@rootsweb.com> Message-ID: <!&!AAAAAAAAAAAYAAAAAAAAANvarhgR2yFJpCnYVMarTTXCgAAAEAAAAOJUaEUL+xxMocz8TiSe k3oBAAAAAA==@deane87.freeserve.co.uk> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" I am trying to fix the death of Frederick Samuel YOUNG who lived in Garlinge and later Westbrook. I think he died between 1887 and 1901, most probably before 1891. Does anyone have access to the indexed St John's burial registers for that period who could check for me? Many thanks in anticipation and best wishes for 2011. Roger Young ------------------------------ Message: 2 Date: Fri, 31 Dec 2010 10:16:05 -0000 From: "Joan Leary" <joan.leary@ntlworld.com> Subject: Re: [Isle-of-Thanet] Late 19th Century Burial Records for St John's ( YOUNG) To: <isle-of-thanet@rootsweb.com> Message-ID: <!&!AAAAAAAAAAAYAAAAAAAAAJQ9A/GGvxBGmDCITm3SlkPCgAAAEAAAAEOVSg50pzxElID4beGc Oe0BAAAAAA==@ntlworld.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" The closest I can get is Frederick Young born 1809 died 1886 Thanet age 77 ref 2a 534, you don't say when he was born so I don't know if this could be him. Regards Joan. -----Original Message----- From: isle-of-thanet-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:isle-of-thanet-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Roger Young Sent: 31 December 2010 09:20 To: isle-of-thanet@rootsweb.com Subject: [Isle-of-Thanet] Late 19th Century Burial Records for St John's ( YOUNG) I am trying to fix the death of Frederick Samuel YOUNG who lived in Garlinge and later Westbrook. I think he died between 1887 and 1901, most probably before 1891. Does anyone have access to the indexed St John's burial registers for that period who could check for me? Many thanks in anticipation and best wishes for 2011. Roger Young ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ISLE-OF-THANET-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------ Message: 3 Date: Fri, 31 Dec 2010 11:23:01 +0000 From: Robin Harlow <robin.harlow@gmail.com> Subject: Re: [Isle-of-Thanet] Late 19th Century Burial Records for St John's ( YOUNG) To: isle-of-thanet@rootsweb.com Message-ID: <AANLkTi=au62W7m+jEUuScQtZeYerFnhw8DR9vi497-yA@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Roger Frederick Young was buried at St John the Baptist, Margate on 2nd October 1886, aged 77 years, resident in Garlinge. Robin ------------------------------ To contact the ISLE-OF-THANET list administrator, send an email to ISLE-OF-THANET-admin@rootsweb.com. To post a message to the ISLE-OF-THANET mailing list, send an email to ISLE-OF-THANET@rootsweb.com. __________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ISLE-OF-THANET-request@rootsweb.com with the word "unsubscribe" without the quotes in the subject and the body of the email with no additional text. End of ISLE-OF-THANET Digest, Vol 6, Issue 1 ********************************************
I have had a look at both the 1891 and 1901 census and on the 1891 (if his wife was Lucy Charlotte Vallock) he is not there but she is stated as married, on the 1901 census she is shown as a widow living under her own means, just a thought as this was the time of the Boer Wars and as he was a blacksmith/carpenter he may have been in the army dealing with the horses, if so he may have died abroad, or at least away from home. Regards Joan. -----Original Message----- From: isle-of-thanet-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:isle-of-thanet-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Roger Young Sent: 02 January 2011 10:55 To: isle-of-thanet@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [Isle-of-Thanet] ISLE-OF-THANET Digest, Vol 6, Issue 1 Thank you Joan and Robin for your help. I should have given Frederick Samuel YOUNG's birth date as 1849. The Frederick Young burial that you kindly located was of his father. I have not found my elusive Frederick Samuel Young in any 1891 census in England, although his wife was still in Margate in that census, enumerated as married and not widowed. So I assumed that he might have died before the census and the information on his wife therefore faulty. Alternatively, he might have been missed by the census being away from home. Certainly by the 1901 census his wife was a widow but living in Brighton (her age, birthplace and details of still resident children are all correct). So as another possibility I have to conclude that they must have moved away from Thanet and that he died away from Thanet, but where I don't know. I assume that there were not other later Frederick YOUNGs buried in St John's other than the one you both found? Many thanks again. Roger Young -----Original Message----- From: isle-of-thanet-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:isle-of-thanet-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of isle-of-thanet-request@rootsweb.com Sent: 01 January 2011 08:01 To: isle-of-thanet@rootsweb.com Subject: ISLE-OF-THANET Digest, Vol 6, Issue 1 Today's Topics: 1. Late 19th Century Burial Records for St John's ( YOUNG) (Roger Young) 2. Re: Late 19th Century Burial Records for St John's ( YOUNG) (Joan Leary) 3. Re: Late 19th Century Burial Records for St John's ( YOUNG) (Robin Harlow) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Fri, 31 Dec 2010 09:20:08 -0000 From: "Roger Young" <young@deane87.freeserve.co.uk> Subject: [Isle-of-Thanet] Late 19th Century Burial Records for St John's ( YOUNG) To: <isle-of-thanet@rootsweb.com> Message-ID: <!&!AAAAAAAAAAAYAAAAAAAAANvarhgR2yFJpCnYVMarTTXCgAAAEAAAAOJUaEUL+xxMocz8TiSe k3oBAAAAAA==@deane87.freeserve.co.uk> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" I am trying to fix the death of Frederick Samuel YOUNG who lived in Garlinge and later Westbrook. I think he died between 1887 and 1901, most probably before 1891. Does anyone have access to the indexed St John's burial registers for that period who could check for me? Many thanks in anticipation and best wishes for 2011. Roger Young ------------------------------ Message: 2 Date: Fri, 31 Dec 2010 10:16:05 -0000 From: "Joan Leary" <joan.leary@ntlworld.com> Subject: Re: [Isle-of-Thanet] Late 19th Century Burial Records for St John's ( YOUNG) To: <isle-of-thanet@rootsweb.com> Message-ID: <!&!AAAAAAAAAAAYAAAAAAAAAJQ9A/GGvxBGmDCITm3SlkPCgAAAEAAAAEOVSg50pzxElID4beGc Oe0BAAAAAA==@ntlworld.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" The closest I can get is Frederick Young born 1809 died 1886 Thanet age 77 ref 2a 534, you don't say when he was born so I don't know if this could be him. Regards Joan. -----Original Message----- From: isle-of-thanet-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:isle-of-thanet-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Roger Young Sent: 31 December 2010 09:20 To: isle-of-thanet@rootsweb.com Subject: [Isle-of-Thanet] Late 19th Century Burial Records for St John's ( YOUNG) I am trying to fix the death of Frederick Samuel YOUNG who lived in Garlinge and later Westbrook. I think he died between 1887 and 1901, most probably before 1891. Does anyone have access to the indexed St John's burial registers for that period who could check for me? Many thanks in anticipation and best wishes for 2011. Roger Young ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ISLE-OF-THANET-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------ Message: 3 Date: Fri, 31 Dec 2010 11:23:01 +0000 From: Robin Harlow <robin.harlow@gmail.com> Subject: Re: [Isle-of-Thanet] Late 19th Century Burial Records for St John's ( YOUNG) To: isle-of-thanet@rootsweb.com Message-ID: <AANLkTi=au62W7m+jEUuScQtZeYerFnhw8DR9vi497-yA@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Roger Frederick Young was buried at St John the Baptist, Margate on 2nd October 1886, aged 77 years, resident in Garlinge. Robin ------------------------------ To contact the ISLE-OF-THANET list administrator, send an email to ISLE-OF-THANET-admin@rootsweb.com. To post a message to the ISLE-OF-THANET mailing list, send an email to ISLE-OF-THANET@rootsweb.com. __________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ISLE-OF-THANET-request@rootsweb.com with the word "unsubscribe" without the quotes in the subject and the body of the email with no additional text. End of ISLE-OF-THANET Digest, Vol 6, Issue 1 ******************************************** ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ISLE-OF-THANET-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message