Thank you. Technology scares the living daylights out of me! Something I have always been curious about. I only met my father's family once, just after the war when I was a child. We visited Aunt Lena, my grandmother's elder sister Selina Coleman and her daughter was there. Wendy Rogers, when I mentioned the family, said this was the posh branch of the family who had lived in Hawley Square. I must admit the aunt was a bit of a grand dame. But why were they posh? I gather the land for the farms was rented not owned. There doesn't appear to have been any money. I don't even know any stories about the family in the way my mother's family related misdemeanors and adventures. It's one of those questions that has puzzled me on how to ask it let alone find answers. You seem to have an endless knowledge of Thanet and the researchers find the most amazing info from such unlikely stories. Regards, Rosemary Redfern > Date: Monday, 8 November, 2010, 6:50 > > Hi Susannah, > > > > We are moving house and have to change e mail addresses. > > Please could > > you add my new one instead of the current one. > > > > rosemaryr37@gmail.com > > > > Thank you. > > > > Rosemary Redfern > > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ISLE-OF-THANET-request@rootsweb.com > > with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the > > subject and the body of the message > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ISLE-OF-THANET-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

All done for you x Margate Local & Family History --- On Mon, 8/11/10, Rosemary Redfern <rosemary.redfern@orange.fr> wrote: > From: Rosemary Redfern <rosemary.redfern@orange.fr> > Subject: [Isle-of-Thanet] email address > To: "Suzana Foad" <isle-of-thanet@rootsweb.com> > Date: Monday, 8 November, 2010, 6:50 > Hi Susannah, > > We are moving house and have to change e mail addresses. > Please could  > you add my new one instead of the current one. > > rosemaryr37@gmail.com > > Thank you. > > Rosemary Redfern > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ISLE-OF-THANET-request@rootsweb.com > with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the > subject and the body of the message >

Hi Susannah, We are moving house and have to change e mail addresses. Please could you add my new one instead of the current one. rosemaryr37@gmail.com Thank you. Rosemary Redfern

That would be lovely, thank you again Edward S Wootton I have a photograph of his portrait which hangs in Margate Museum. A picture of his gravestone. A photocopy picture of Wootton & Son Chemists, 76 High Street Margate A photocopy portrait picture of ES Wootton. Margate Local & Family History --- On Sun, 7/11/10, Elizabeth Brooker <ebrooker@pathcom.com> wrote: > From: Elizabeth Brooker <ebrooker@pathcom.com> > Subject: Re: [Isle-of-Thanet] MARGATE HOY COMPANY 1910 - Rapson - Bayly > To: isle-of-thanet@rootsweb.com > Date: Sunday, 7 November, 2010, 15:12 > Dear Suzannah, > > I would truly appreciate a photocopy of a picture of Edward > Staples Wootton > and possibly Edward Rapson. > > If you want more photos of John Bayly 1832-1911, we have > quite a few from > the family albums of my mother-in-law as John was her > grandfather and we do > have snaps I found of him in his mayoral robe etc. > > Elizabeth Brooker > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Suzannah Foad" <suzannah.foad@btopenworld.com> > To: <isle-of-thanet@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Friday, November 05, 2010 7:57 AM > Subject: Re: [Isle-of-Thanet] MARGATE HOY COMPANY 1910 - > Rapson - Bayly > > > I have photocopy pictures of all Mayors you mention, if you > would like > copies, ask away! x I have been working on all Maragte > Mayors for many > years, collecting tit bits and pictures, plus building up > mini biographies > > Suzannah > > Margate Local & Family History > > > --- On Fri, 5/11/10, Elizabeth Brooker <ebrooker@pathcom.com> > wrote: > > > From: Elizabeth Brooker <ebrooker@pathcom.com> > > Subject: Re: [Isle-of-Thanet] MARGATE HOY COMPANY 1910 > - Rapson - Bayly > > To: isle-of-thanet@rootsweb.com > > Date: Friday, 5 November, 2010, 0:33 > > I missed finding that Edward Rapson > > was also a Margate Mayor, Suzannah. > > Henry's father was named Edward Rapson and I think > this was > > the only Rapson > > family in Margate so the 1868 mayor was probably > Henry's > > father. Such > > politically minded people -- that makes three mayors > of > > Margate: John Bayly, > > Edward Rapson and Edward S. Wootton. > > > > I tried to look at the Mayors of Margate website but > it is > > no longer > > available. > > > > The families of Rapson, Wootton and Keble, of the > Gazette, > > lived in houses > > side by side on High St. for many years in Margate. > > > > Thank you so much for continuing to give us so much, > > Suzannah !! > > Elizabeth Brooker > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Suzannah Foad" <suzannah.foad@btopenworld.com> > > To: <isle-of-thanet@rootsweb.com> > > Sent: Thursday, November 04, 2010 6:11 PM > > Subject: Re: [Isle-of-Thanet] MARGATE HOY COMPANY 1910 > - > > Rapson - Bayly > > > > > > There was an Edward Rapson who was Margate Mayor in > 1868-9 > > too. > > > > Margate Local & Family History > > > > > > --- On Thu, 4/11/10, Elizabeth Brooker <ebrooker@pathcom.com> > > wrote: > > > > > From: Elizabeth Brooker <ebrooker@pathcom.com> > > > Subject: Re: [Isle-of-Thanet] MARGATE HOY > > COMPANY 1910 > > > To: isle-of-thanet@rootsweb.com > > > Date: Thursday, 4 November, 2010, 21:26 > > > Again many thanks, Suzannah. > > > This time you have sent three familiar names > > > in this newspaper article: John Bayly (Chairman) > is > > > the father of A.W. > > > Bayly (Arthur Webber Bayly and Arthur), Henry > Wootton > > and > > > John Bayly were > > > 4th cousins, and Robert Rapson was Henry's > brother in > > law. > > > > > > John Bayly was a mayor of Margate in 1881/2 and > Henry > > > Wootton's brother, > > > Edward Staple Wootton was a mayor of Margate in > > > 1893/4. I wondered if the > > > Bayly and Wootton families knew each other -- > > obviously the > > > answer is yes!! > > > > > > Elizabeth Brooker > > > Etobicoke, Ont. Canada > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: "Suzannah Foad" <suzannah.foad@btopenworld.com> > > > To: <isle-of-thanet-l@rootsweb.com> > > > Sent: Thursday, November 04, 2010 7:14 AM > > > Subject: [Isle-of-Thanet] MARGATE HOY COMPANY > 1910 > > > > > > > > > > > > Isle of Thanet Gazette 26th March 1910. > > > > > > 'MARGATE HOY COMPANY' - At the ordinary general > > meeting of > > > this > > > Company, held at the Registered Office, 53, High > > Street, > > > Margate, on Monday > > > evening, the following report was received from > the > > > Directors, who are > > > Messrs. John Bayly (Chairman), A.W. Bayly, H. > Wootton, > > R. > > > Rapson, l.A. Drain > > > and George Judge:- "The Directors submit the > accounts > > for > > > the twelve months > > > ending January 30th, 1910, and regret the > working > > shows a > > > small loss, partly > > > accounted for by the reduction of rates and the > > running of > > > two barges during > > > the winter months, in order that the connection > might > > be > > > kept together. The > > > retiring Directors by rotation are Mr. Henry > Wootton > > and > > > Mr. Robert Rapson > > > who, being eligible, offer themselves for > > re-election". The > > > balance sheet > > > showed liabilities on the capital account in > shares > > and > > > debentures of > > > £2,750, and on the revenue account, to > creditors. > > £156. > > > 3s. 6d., and cash > > > due to the bank £85. 18s. 7d.; total £2,992. > 2s. 1d. > > As > > > as setts the > > > Company's property was valued at £2,550, and on > the > > > revenue side of the > > > account £5. 13s. 6d. was put down to petty > > cash, and > > > £87. Os. 8d. as > > > outstanding accounts to collect, whilst the > balance > > at > > > debit on the profit > > > and loss account was stated to be £349. 7s. 11d. > No > > > dividends were, under the circumstances, payable > to > > the > > > shareholders. > > > > > > Margate Local & Family History > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > ISLE-OF-THANET-request@rootsweb.com > > with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > > ISLE-OF-THANET-request@rootsweb.com > > with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the > > subject and the body of the message > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ISLE-OF-THANET-request@rootsweb.com > with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ISLE-OF-THANET-request@rootsweb.com > with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the > subject and the body of the message >

Perfect, thank you very much. I will have great fun filling in the details. I am sending through 5 pictures. One portrait of Edward Rapson, a business calling card, two adverts from 1903, an article when made Mayor and also an old wooden hanger I have with Robert Rapson's name on. Margate Local & Family History --- On Sun, 7/11/10, Elizabeth Brooker <ebrooker@pathcom.com> wrote: > From: Elizabeth Brooker <ebrooker@pathcom.com> > Subject: Re: [Isle-of-Thanet] MARGATE HOY COMPANY 1910 - Rapson - Bayly > To: isle-of-thanet@rootsweb.com > Date: Sunday, 7 November, 2010, 16:15 > Dear Suzannah, > > If I do not do things immediately, they tend to not get > done at all!! So > here is a very rough sketch, Suzannah: > >      Andrew Wootton 1676-1752 Minster > Thanet >                 >               >    /            >             \ > John Wootton 1716-1787          >      Edward Wootton 1718-1792 > Mary Wootton 1724-1827          >     Thomas Wootton 1762-1838 > Elizabeth Rammell 1769-1857    >    Thomas Wootton 1786-1861 > Charlotte Lansell 1794-1872        >   Edward Wootton 1810-1880 > John Bayly 1832-1911          >           *Henry Wootton 1848* >                 >                 >                 >           (brother Edward S. > Wootton 1840-1905 > >       Edward Rapson c1815 Andover Hants > (d1879 Margate) >                 >             /    >                 >             \ > Anne Rapson c1857            >               Robert > Rapson 1852 >    marr 1879 > *Henry Wootton 1848* > > > Warm regards, > Elizabeth Brooker > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Suzannah Foad" <suzannah.foad@btopenworld.com> > To: <isle-of-thanet-l@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Sunday, November 07, 2010 10:00 AM > Subject: Re: [Isle-of-Thanet] MARGATE HOY COMPANY 1910 - > Rapson - Bayly > > > Hi Elizabeth > > Could you fill me in regarding the family connections of > the three families. > I have drawn a tree up for John Bayly but would alos like > to add the > Rapson's. > No rush, just whenever you have time > Regards > Suzannah > > Margate Local & Family History > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ISLE-OF-THANET-request@rootsweb.com > with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the > subject and the body of the message >

>From The Times, Tuesday, Oct 03, 1848; pg.7; Issue 19984; col B DIED. On Saturday, the 30th ult., at Ramsgate, in the 65th year of his age, Thomas DUMBLETON , Esq., of Hall-grove, Bagshot.

Hi Elizabeth Could you fill me in regarding the family connections of the three families. I have drawn a tree up for John Bayly but would alos like to add the Rapson's. No rush, just whenever you have time Regards Suzannah Margate Local & Family History --- On Fri, 5/11/10, Suzannah Foad <suzannah.foad@btopenworld.com> wrote: > From: Suzannah Foad <suzannah.foad@btopenworld.com> > Subject: Re: [Isle-of-Thanet] MARGATE HOY COMPANY 1910 - Rapson - Bayly > To: isle-of-thanet@rootsweb.com > Date: Friday, 5 November, 2010, 12:57 > I have photocopy pictures of all > Mayors you mention, if you would like copies, ask away! x I > have been working on all Maragte Mayors for many years, > collecting tit bits and pictures, plus building up mini > biographies > > Suzannah > > Margate Local & Family History > > > --- On Fri, 5/11/10, Elizabeth Brooker <ebrooker@pathcom.com> > wrote: > > > From: Elizabeth Brooker <ebrooker@pathcom.com> > > Subject: Re: [Isle-of-Thanet] MARGATE HOY COMPANY 1910 > - Rapson - Bayly > > To: isle-of-thanet@rootsweb.com > > Date: Friday, 5 November, 2010, 0:33 > > I missed finding that Edward Rapson > > was also a Margate Mayor, Suzannah. > > Henry's father was named Edward Rapson and I think > this was > > the only Rapson > > family in Margate so the 1868 mayor was probably > Henry's > > father.  Such > > politically minded people -- that makes three mayors > of > > Margate: John Bayly, > > Edward Rapson and Edward S. Wootton. > > > > I tried to look at the Mayors of Margate website but > it is > > no longer > > available. > > > > The families of Rapson, Wootton and Keble, of the > Gazette, > > lived in houses > > side by side on High St. for many years in Margate. > > > > Thank you so much for continuing to give us so much, > > Suzannah !! > > Elizabeth Brooker > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Suzannah Foad" <suzannah.foad@btopenworld.com> > > To: <isle-of-thanet@rootsweb.com> > > Sent: Thursday, November 04, 2010 6:11 PM > > Subject: Re: [Isle-of-Thanet] MARGATE HOY COMPANY 1910 > - > > Rapson - Bayly > > > > > > There was an Edward Rapson who was Margate Mayor in > 1868-9 > > too. > > > > Margate Local & Family History > > > > > > --- On Thu, 4/11/10, Elizabeth Brooker <ebrooker@pathcom.com> > > wrote: > > > > > From: Elizabeth Brooker <ebrooker@pathcom.com> > > > Subject: Re: [Isle-of-Thanet] MARGATE HOY > > COMPANY  1910 > > > To: isle-of-thanet@rootsweb.com > > > Date: Thursday, 4 November, 2010, 21:26 > > > Again many thanks, Suzannah. > > > This time you have sent three familiar names > > > in this newspaper article: John Bayly (Chairman) > is > > > the father of A.W. > > > Bayly (Arthur Webber Bayly and Arthur), Henry > Wootton > > and > > > John Bayly were > > > 4th cousins, and Robert Rapson was Henry's > brother in > > law. > > > > > > John Bayly was a mayor of Margate in 1881/2 and > Henry > > > Wootton's brother, > > > Edward Staple Wootton was a mayor of Margate in > > > 1893/4. I wondered if the > > > Bayly and Wootton families knew each other -- > > obviously the > > > answer is yes!! > > > > > > Elizabeth Brooker > > > Etobicoke, Ont. Canada > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: "Suzannah Foad" <suzannah.foad@btopenworld.com> > > > To: <isle-of-thanet-l@rootsweb.com> > > > Sent: Thursday, November 04, 2010 7:14 AM > > > Subject: [Isle-of-Thanet] MARGATE HOY COMPANY > 1910 > > > > > > > > > > > > Isle of Thanet Gazette 26th March 1910. > > > > > > 'MARGATE HOY COMPANY' - At the ordinary general > > meeting of > > > this > > > Company, held at the Registered Office, 53, High > > Street, > > > Margate, on Monday > > > evening, the following report was received from > the > > > Directors, who are > > > Messrs. John Bayly (Chairman), A.W. Bayly, H. > Wootton, > > R. > > > Rapson, l.A. Drain > > > and George Judge:- "The Directors submit the > accounts > > for > > > the twelve months > > > ending January 30th, 1910, and regret the > working > > shows a > > > small loss, partly > > > accounted for by the reduction of rates and the > > running of > > > two barges during > > > the winter months, in order that the connection > might > > be > > > kept together. The > > > retiring Directors by rotation are Mr. Henry > Wootton > > and > > > Mr. Robert Rapson > > > who, being eligible, offer themselves for > > re-election". The > > > balance sheet > > > showed liabilities on the capital account in > shares > > and > > > debentures of > > > £2,750, and on the revenue account, to > creditors. > > £156. > > > 3s. 6d., and cash > > > due to the bank £85. 18s. 7d.; total £2,992. > 2s. 1d. > > As > > > as setts the > > > Company's property was valued at £2,550, and on > the > > > revenue side of the > > >  account £5. 13s. 6d. was put down to petty > > cash, and > > > £87. Os. 8d. as > > > outstanding accounts to collect, whilst the > balance > > at > > > debit on the profit > > > and loss account was stated to be £349. 7s. 11d. > No > > > dividends were, under the circumstances, payable > to > > the > > > shareholders. > > > > > > Margate Local & Family History > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > > ISLE-OF-THANET-request@rootsweb.com > > with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > >  > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ISLE-OF-THANET-request@rootsweb.com > > with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the > > subject and the body of the message > > >

Dear Suzannah, If I do not do things immediately, they tend to not get done at all!! So here is a very rough sketch, Suzannah: Andrew Wootton 1676-1752 Minster Thanet / \ John Wootton 1716-1787 Edward Wootton 1718-1792 Mary Wootton 1724-1827 Thomas Wootton 1762-1838 Elizabeth Rammell 1769-1857 Thomas Wootton 1786-1861 Charlotte Lansell 1794-1872 Edward Wootton 1810-1880 John Bayly 1832-1911 *Henry Wootton 1848* (brother Edward S. Wootton 1840-1905 Edward Rapson c1815 Andover Hants (d1879 Margate) / \ Anne Rapson c1857 Robert Rapson 1852 marr 1879 *Henry Wootton 1848* Warm regards, Elizabeth Brooker ----- Original Message ----- From: "Suzannah Foad" <suzannah.foad@btopenworld.com> To: <isle-of-thanet-l@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, November 07, 2010 10:00 AM Subject: Re: [Isle-of-Thanet] MARGATE HOY COMPANY 1910 - Rapson - Bayly Hi Elizabeth Could you fill me in regarding the family connections of the three families. I have drawn a tree up for John Bayly but would alos like to add the Rapson's. No rush, just whenever you have time Regards Suzannah Margate Local & Family History

Dear Suzannah, I would truly appreciate a photocopy of a picture of Edward Staples Wootton and possibly Edward Rapson. If you want more photos of John Bayly 1832-1911, we have quite a few from the family albums of my mother-in-law as John was her grandfather and we do have snaps I found of him in his mayoral robe etc. Elizabeth Brooker ----- Original Message ----- From: "Suzannah Foad" <suzannah.foad@btopenworld.com> To: <isle-of-thanet@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, November 05, 2010 7:57 AM Subject: Re: [Isle-of-Thanet] MARGATE HOY COMPANY 1910 - Rapson - Bayly I have photocopy pictures of all Mayors you mention, if you would like copies, ask away! x I have been working on all Maragte Mayors for many years, collecting tit bits and pictures, plus building up mini biographies Suzannah Margate Local & Family History --- On Fri, 5/11/10, Elizabeth Brooker <ebrooker@pathcom.com> wrote: > From: Elizabeth Brooker <ebrooker@pathcom.com> > Subject: Re: [Isle-of-Thanet] MARGATE HOY COMPANY 1910 - Rapson - Bayly > To: isle-of-thanet@rootsweb.com > Date: Friday, 5 November, 2010, 0:33 > I missed finding that Edward Rapson > was also a Margate Mayor, Suzannah. > Henry's father was named Edward Rapson and I think this was > the only Rapson > family in Margate so the 1868 mayor was probably Henry's > father. Such > politically minded people -- that makes three mayors of > Margate: John Bayly, > Edward Rapson and Edward S. Wootton. > > I tried to look at the Mayors of Margate website but it is > no longer > available. > > The families of Rapson, Wootton and Keble, of the Gazette, > lived in houses > side by side on High St. for many years in Margate. > > Thank you so much for continuing to give us so much, > Suzannah !! > Elizabeth Brooker > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Suzannah Foad" <suzannah.foad@btopenworld.com> > To: <isle-of-thanet@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Thursday, November 04, 2010 6:11 PM > Subject: Re: [Isle-of-Thanet] MARGATE HOY COMPANY 1910 - > Rapson - Bayly > > > There was an Edward Rapson who was Margate Mayor in 1868-9 > too. > > Margate Local & Family History > > > --- On Thu, 4/11/10, Elizabeth Brooker <ebrooker@pathcom.com> > wrote: > > > From: Elizabeth Brooker <ebrooker@pathcom.com> > > Subject: Re: [Isle-of-Thanet] MARGATE HOY > COMPANY 1910 > > To: isle-of-thanet@rootsweb.com > > Date: Thursday, 4 November, 2010, 21:26 > > Again many thanks, Suzannah. > > This time you have sent three familiar names > > in this newspaper article: John Bayly (Chairman) is > > the father of A.W. > > Bayly (Arthur Webber Bayly and Arthur), Henry Wootton > and > > John Bayly were > > 4th cousins, and Robert Rapson was Henry's brother in > law. > > > > John Bayly was a mayor of Margate in 1881/2 and Henry > > Wootton's brother, > > Edward Staple Wootton was a mayor of Margate in > > 1893/4. I wondered if the > > Bayly and Wootton families knew each other -- > obviously the > > answer is yes!! > > > > Elizabeth Brooker > > Etobicoke, Ont. Canada > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Suzannah Foad" <suzannah.foad@btopenworld.com> > > To: <isle-of-thanet-l@rootsweb.com> > > Sent: Thursday, November 04, 2010 7:14 AM > > Subject: [Isle-of-Thanet] MARGATE HOY COMPANY 1910 > > > > > > > > Isle of Thanet Gazette 26th March 1910. > > > > 'MARGATE HOY COMPANY' - At the ordinary general > meeting of > > this > > Company, held at the Registered Office, 53, High > Street, > > Margate, on Monday > > evening, the following report was received from the > > Directors, who are > > Messrs. John Bayly (Chairman), A.W. Bayly, H. Wootton, > R. > > Rapson, l.A. Drain > > and George Judge:- "The Directors submit the accounts > for > > the twelve months > > ending January 30th, 1910, and regret the working > shows a > > small loss, partly > > accounted for by the reduction of rates and the > running of > > two barges during > > the winter months, in order that the connection might > be > > kept together. The > > retiring Directors by rotation are Mr. Henry Wootton > and > > Mr. Robert Rapson > > who, being eligible, offer themselves for > re-election". The > > balance sheet > > showed liabilities on the capital account in shares > and > > debentures of > > £2,750, and on the revenue account, to creditors. > £156. > > 3s. 6d., and cash > > due to the bank £85. 18s. 7d.; total £2,992. 2s. 1d. > As > > as setts the > > Company's property was valued at £2,550, and on the > > revenue side of the > > account £5. 13s. 6d. was put down to petty > cash, and > > £87. Os. 8d. as > > outstanding accounts to collect, whilst the balance > at > > debit on the profit > > and loss account was stated to be £349. 7s. 11d. No > > dividends were, under the circumstances, payable to > the > > shareholders. > > > > Margate Local & Family History > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ISLE-OF-THANET-request@rootsweb.com > with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ISLE-OF-THANET-request@rootsweb.com > with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the > subject and the body of the message > ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ISLE-OF-THANET-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I have photocopy pictures of all Mayors you mention, if you would like copies, ask away! x I have been working on all Maragte Mayors for many years, collecting tit bits and pictures, plus building up mini biographies Suzannah Margate Local & Family History --- On Fri, 5/11/10, Elizabeth Brooker <ebrooker@pathcom.com> wrote: > From: Elizabeth Brooker <ebrooker@pathcom.com> > Subject: Re: [Isle-of-Thanet] MARGATE HOY COMPANY 1910 - Rapson - Bayly > To: isle-of-thanet@rootsweb.com > Date: Friday, 5 November, 2010, 0:33 > I missed finding that Edward Rapson > was also a Margate Mayor, Suzannah. > Henry's father was named Edward Rapson and I think this was > the only Rapson > family in Margate so the 1868 mayor was probably Henry's > father.  Such > politically minded people -- that makes three mayors of > Margate: John Bayly, > Edward Rapson and Edward S. Wootton. > > I tried to look at the Mayors of Margate website but it is > no longer > available. > > The families of Rapson, Wootton and Keble, of the Gazette, > lived in houses > side by side on High St. for many years in Margate. > > Thank you so much for continuing to give us so much, > Suzannah !! > Elizabeth Brooker > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Suzannah Foad" <suzannah.foad@btopenworld.com> > To: <isle-of-thanet@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Thursday, November 04, 2010 6:11 PM > Subject: Re: [Isle-of-Thanet] MARGATE HOY COMPANY 1910 - > Rapson - Bayly > > > There was an Edward Rapson who was Margate Mayor in 1868-9 > too. > > Margate Local & Family History > > > --- On Thu, 4/11/10, Elizabeth Brooker <ebrooker@pathcom.com> > wrote: > > > From: Elizabeth Brooker <ebrooker@pathcom.com> > > Subject: Re: [Isle-of-Thanet] MARGATE HOY > COMPANY  1910 > > To: isle-of-thanet@rootsweb.com > > Date: Thursday, 4 November, 2010, 21:26 > > Again many thanks, Suzannah. > > This time you have sent three familiar names > > in this newspaper article: John Bayly (Chairman) is > > the father of A.W. > > Bayly (Arthur Webber Bayly and Arthur), Henry Wootton > and > > John Bayly were > > 4th cousins, and Robert Rapson was Henry's brother in > law. > > > > John Bayly was a mayor of Margate in 1881/2 and Henry > > Wootton's brother, > > Edward Staple Wootton was a mayor of Margate in > > 1893/4. I wondered if the > > Bayly and Wootton families knew each other -- > obviously the > > answer is yes!! > > > > Elizabeth Brooker > > Etobicoke, Ont. Canada > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Suzannah Foad" <suzannah.foad@btopenworld.com> > > To: <isle-of-thanet-l@rootsweb.com> > > Sent: Thursday, November 04, 2010 7:14 AM > > Subject: [Isle-of-Thanet] MARGATE HOY COMPANY 1910 > > > > > > > > Isle of Thanet Gazette 26th March 1910. > > > > 'MARGATE HOY COMPANY' - At the ordinary general > meeting of > > this > > Company, held at the Registered Office, 53, High > Street, > > Margate, on Monday > > evening, the following report was received from the > > Directors, who are > > Messrs. John Bayly (Chairman), A.W. Bayly, H. Wootton, > R. > > Rapson, l.A. Drain > > and George Judge:- "The Directors submit the accounts > for > > the twelve months > > ending January 30th, 1910, and regret the working > shows a > > small loss, partly > > accounted for by the reduction of rates and the > running of > > two barges during > > the winter months, in order that the connection might > be > > kept together. The > > retiring Directors by rotation are Mr. Henry Wootton > and > > Mr. Robert Rapson > > who, being eligible, offer themselves for > re-election". The > > balance sheet > > showed liabilities on the capital account in shares > and > > debentures of > > £2,750, and on the revenue account, to creditors. > £156. > > 3s. 6d., and cash > > due to the bank £85. 18s. 7d.; total £2,992. 2s. 1d. > As > > as setts the > > Company's property was valued at £2,550, and on the > > revenue side of the > >  account £5. 13s. 6d. was put down to petty > cash, and > > £87. Os. 8d. as > > outstanding accounts to collect, whilst the balance > at > > debit on the profit > > and loss account was stated to be £349. 7s. 11d. No > > dividends were, under the circumstances, payable to > the > > shareholders. > > > > Margate Local & Family History > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ISLE-OF-THANET-request@rootsweb.com > with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ISLE-OF-THANET-request@rootsweb.com > with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the > subject and the body of the message >

In the IoT Gazette today it mentioned the release of names from war memorials in Margate, Birchington and Westgate on _www.margatecivicsociety.org.uk_ (http://www.margatecivicsociety.org.uk) so I had a look. There are hundreds of names from the two World Wars, including civilians and munition workers. Worth a look. Maddie

Hi List You may be able to help - I have relatives who died in 1901at Birchington - a family tragedy George Belsey Apr 1901 (Husband of Emily) Daughter Sarah - Jul 1901 - (age 4mths) Daughter Georgina Nelly - Aug 1901 - (age 3) His son George Charles - died in 1912 (age 12) So I was wondering if there was some sort of Epidemic running rife during that time. Thanks Daryl from Oz

I would be very interested in any newspaper reports about the sailing ship FORMOSA [Official Number 20189] a 97 ton schooner which entered Ramsgate 27th. December 1873 to seek shelter from a severe storm. My gt. grandfather William Robert Smith of King's Lynn was her Master and she had sailed from Antwerp on 11th. December, bound with cargo for Plymouth. The storm must have been particularly bad as she did not get very far in those 15 days, and as a result of "suffering extreme privitations" during that storm, when my gt. grandfather eventually left that ship he gave up the sea to become a businessman and ship owner in King's Lynn. I would be particularly interested in any report of the state of the ship when she limped into Ramsgate, as she remained in that port for over a month undergoing repairs. I would also be interested in any artivles referring to the repairs carried out, her crew, and anything about her cargo which she eventually took to Plymouth. During this time her Mate Andrew Blackburn deserted the ship and was convicted to 14 days imprisonment at Sandwich Jail, also losing 12 days pay through desertion and having to pay court costs of £1 12s. 00d. {this information is from her log books and Account of Voyage, copied from the Newfoundland archives}. Log book entry was dated 13th. January 1874. After completing extensive repairs she sailed from Ramsgate 26th. January to resumed her voyage to Plymouth with her cargo before heading up to Newcastle where my gt. grandfather handed over command to his brother, and left the ship.. This was a life-changing event in my gt. grandfather's interesting life, hence my particular interest in the storm and his ship's enforced stay in Ramsgate. Many thanks, Chris

My interest was aroused when I saw the word HOY in the company's title and guessed this must have been a ship owning company. Hoy: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hoy_(boat) For anyone interested in ship ownership, British ship ownership was, and still is required to be divided into 64 shares. This was originally to spread the considerable risk for owners in the 19th. century. Often local businessmen would take a few shares each in a ship, and it was not unusual for the ship's Master (Captain) to be invited to take a share, to give him a great involvement in the commercial aspect of 'his' ship. Taking this a stage further, it was not unusual for a one-ship company to invite the ship's Master, if he was also a share holder, to be nominated the Official Owner, even though his holding might be considerably less than other shareholders in that particular ship. This was usually when he had more experience in marine commerce than the other shareholders who may include bakers or farmers etc. It can sometimes be misleading when someone is described as a 'ship owner'. While this is normally correct, it does not necessarily mean that he/she owned all 64 shares in the vessel. It was not unusual for a widow to take on her deceased husband's shareholding. Nomination of an Official Owner was a requirement, and his or her name and address would appear in documents such as crew lists, accounts of voyages, log books, etc. Port Transcription records show the history of the ownership of a vessel while registered in a particular port, and are very useful for anyone who wants to find more about local ship owners as it shows data about the ship, her period of registry in that port, the name of shareholders and their holdings, and when they bought and sold these shares. Originally held by the local harbour authority, many of these books were disposed of, but a few years ago the 'Registrar of British Ships and Seamen' based in Cardiff, made copies available on microfiche to various institutes such as local libraries and museums. For example King's Lynn library has a set for the ships registered in her port. There may be a set at Margate. Some county archives kept origianl Port Transcription records. The remit of the Registrar of British Ships and Seamen included all British, Empire and Commonwealth registered ships and their crews. Many small ports which originally had their own registry had their registry closed in the later 19th. century to save costs, and vessels would then be registered in a larger port near by. The Registrar also held copies of all Crew Lists, the more useful and interesting Accounts of Voyages, and Log Books, but sold a lot of their archives a few years ago. Most surviving original documents were bought by the Memorial University of Newfoundand which has catalogued and made them available to the public, although to search their archives you will need a ship's Official Number. http://www.mun.ca/mha/about.php http://www.mun.ca/mha/holdings/searchcombinedcrews.php Greenwich - our National Maritime Museum - bought the remainder, mostly those for the years ending with a 5. http://www.nmm.ac.uk/ Greenwich offers a fine set of downloadable guides from their website for maritime research. Kew has some seamen's records, but perhaps more importantly have produced two excellent podcasts on researching seamen and ships: http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/podcasts/merchant-navy-service-records.htm http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/podcasts/merchant-navy.htm although it was technically the 'Merchant Marine' until after WW1 when the title 'Merchant Navy' was granted by the King in recognition of the effort given by our unarmed mariners during that war. At the same time, the Royal Navy granted all British ship's Master the courtesy title of 'Captain'. Although it had been in common use for a long time, the legal title still is a ship's Master. A ship's Official Number was and still is issued to an individual ship when she is first entered in the Register for British ships. This may be as a newbuilt, or a vessel brought in from a non-British, Empire or Commonwealth country (including war prize-ships). The number was carved on her foremost main beam (nowadays it is written in welding) and will remain with that ship, even if she leaves the British register and returns at a later date, or if she changes her name while still on the British Registry, as often happens. A fine web site for tracking down crew lists etc. is the CLIP transcription project: http://www.crewlist.org.uk/ If anyone has difficulty finding the official number of a British vessel for further research, don't hesitate to drop me a line via this forum if it should be of interest to others, or off-list. Good hunting, Chris > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Suzannah Foad" <suzannah.foad@btopenworld.com> > To: <isle-of-thanet-l@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Thursday, November 04, 2010 7:14 AM > Subject: [Isle-of-Thanet] MARGATE HOY COMPANY 1910 > > Isle of Thanet Gazette 26th March 1910. > > 'MARGATE HOY COMPANY' - At the ordinary general meeting of this Company, > held at the Registered Office, 53, High Street, > Margate, on Monday evening, the following report was received from the > Directors, who are Messrs. John Bayly (Chairman), A.W. Bayly, H. Wootton, > R. > Rapson, l.A. Drain and George Judge:- "The Directors submit the accounts > for the twelve months ending January 30th, 1910, and regret the working > shows a > small loss, partly accounted for by the reduction of rates and the > running of two barges during the winter months, in order that the > connection might be > kept together...... > Margate Local & Family History > > ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ISLE-OF-THANET-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ISLE-OF-THANET-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ----- No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 10.0.1153 / Virus Database: 424/3234 - Release Date: 11/02/10

There was an Edward Rapson who was Margate Mayor in 1868-9 too. Margate Local & Family History --- On Thu, 4/11/10, Elizabeth Brooker <ebrooker@pathcom.com> wrote: > From: Elizabeth Brooker <ebrooker@pathcom.com> > Subject: Re: [Isle-of-Thanet] MARGATE HOY COMPANY 1910 > To: isle-of-thanet@rootsweb.com > Date: Thursday, 4 November, 2010, 21:26 > Again many thanks, Suzannah.  > This time you have sent three familiar names > in this newspaper article:  John Bayly (Chairman) is > the father of A.W. > Bayly (Arthur Webber Bayly and Arthur), Henry Wootton and > John Bayly were > 4th cousins, and Robert Rapson was Henry's brother in law. > > John Bayly was a mayor of Margate in 1881/2 and Henry > Wootton's brother, > Edward Staple Wootton was a mayor of Margate in > 1893/4.  I wondered if the > Bayly and Wootton families knew each other -- obviously the > answer is yes!! > > Elizabeth Brooker > Etobicoke, Ont. Canada > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Suzannah Foad" <suzannah.foad@btopenworld.com> > To: <isle-of-thanet-l@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Thursday, November 04, 2010 7:14 AM > Subject: [Isle-of-Thanet] MARGATE HOY COMPANY 1910 > > > > Isle of Thanet Gazette 26th March 1910. > > 'MARGATE HOY COMPANY' - At the ordinary general meeting of > this > Company, held at the Registered Office, 53, High Street, > Margate, on Monday > evening, the following report was received from the > Directors, who are > Messrs. John Bayly (Chairman), A.W. Bayly, H. Wootton, R. > Rapson, l.A. Drain > and George Judge:- "The Directors submit the accounts for > the twelve months > ending January 30th, 1910, and regret the working shows a > small loss, partly > accounted for by the reduction of rates and the running of > two barges during > the winter months, in order that the connection might be > kept together. The > retiring Directors by rotation are Mr. Henry Wootton and > Mr. Robert Rapson > who, being eligible, offer themselves for re-election". The > balance sheet > showed liabilities on the capital account in shares and > debentures of > £2,750, and on the revenue account, to creditors. £156. > 3s. 6d., and cash > due to the bank £85. 18s. 7d.; total £2,992. 2s. 1d. As > as setts the > Company's property was valued at £2,550, and on the > revenue side of the > account £5. 13s. 6d. was put down to petty cash, and > £87. Os. 8d. as > outstanding accounts to collect, whilst the balance at > debit on the profit > and loss account was stated to be £349. 7s. 11d. No > dividends were, under the circumstances, payable to the > shareholders. > > Margate Local & Family History > >

I missed finding that Edward Rapson was also a Margate Mayor, Suzannah. Henry's father was named Edward Rapson and I think this was the only Rapson family in Margate so the 1868 mayor was probably Henry's father. Such politically minded people -- that makes three mayors of Margate: John Bayly, Edward Rapson and Edward S. Wootton. I tried to look at the Mayors of Margate website but it is no longer available. The families of Rapson, Wootton and Keble, of the Gazette, lived in houses side by side on High St. for many years in Margate. Thank you so much for continuing to give us so much, Suzannah !! Elizabeth Brooker ----- Original Message ----- From: "Suzannah Foad" <suzannah.foad@btopenworld.com> To: <isle-of-thanet@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, November 04, 2010 6:11 PM Subject: Re: [Isle-of-Thanet] MARGATE HOY COMPANY 1910 - Rapson - Bayly There was an Edward Rapson who was Margate Mayor in 1868-9 too. Margate Local & Family History --- On Thu, 4/11/10, Elizabeth Brooker <ebrooker@pathcom.com> wrote: > From: Elizabeth Brooker <ebrooker@pathcom.com> > Subject: Re: [Isle-of-Thanet] MARGATE HOY COMPANY 1910 > To: isle-of-thanet@rootsweb.com > Date: Thursday, 4 November, 2010, 21:26 > Again many thanks, Suzannah. > This time you have sent three familiar names > in this newspaper article: John Bayly (Chairman) is > the father of A.W. > Bayly (Arthur Webber Bayly and Arthur), Henry Wootton and > John Bayly were > 4th cousins, and Robert Rapson was Henry's brother in law. > > John Bayly was a mayor of Margate in 1881/2 and Henry > Wootton's brother, > Edward Staple Wootton was a mayor of Margate in > 1893/4. I wondered if the > Bayly and Wootton families knew each other -- obviously the > answer is yes!! > > Elizabeth Brooker > Etobicoke, Ont. Canada > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Suzannah Foad" <suzannah.foad@btopenworld.com> > To: <isle-of-thanet-l@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Thursday, November 04, 2010 7:14 AM > Subject: [Isle-of-Thanet] MARGATE HOY COMPANY 1910 > > > > Isle of Thanet Gazette 26th March 1910. > > 'MARGATE HOY COMPANY' - At the ordinary general meeting of > this > Company, held at the Registered Office, 53, High Street, > Margate, on Monday > evening, the following report was received from the > Directors, who are > Messrs. John Bayly (Chairman), A.W. Bayly, H. Wootton, R. > Rapson, l.A. Drain > and George Judge:- "The Directors submit the accounts for > the twelve months > ending January 30th, 1910, and regret the working shows a > small loss, partly > accounted for by the reduction of rates and the running of > two barges during > the winter months, in order that the connection might be > kept together. The > retiring Directors by rotation are Mr. Henry Wootton and > Mr. Robert Rapson > who, being eligible, offer themselves for re-election". The > balance sheet > showed liabilities on the capital account in shares and > debentures of > £2,750, and on the revenue account, to creditors. £156. > 3s. 6d., and cash > due to the bank £85. 18s. 7d.; total £2,992. 2s. 1d. As > as setts the > Company's property was valued at £2,550, and on the > revenue side of the > account £5. 13s. 6d. was put down to petty cash, and > £87. Os. 8d. as > outstanding accounts to collect, whilst the balance at > debit on the profit > and loss account was stated to be £349. 7s. 11d. No > dividends were, under the circumstances, payable to the > shareholders. > > Margate Local & Family History > > ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ISLE-OF-THANET-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Again many thanks, Suzannah. This time you have sent three familiar names in this newspaper article: John Bayly (Chairman) is the father of A.W. Bayly (Arthur Webber Bayly and Arthur), Henry Wootton and John Bayly were 4th cousins, and Robert Rapson was Henry's brother in law. John Bayly was a mayor of Margate in 1881/2 and Henry Wootton's brother, Edward Staple Wootton was a mayor of Margate in 1893/4. I wondered if the Bayly and Wootton families knew each other -- obviously the answer is yes!! Elizabeth Brooker Etobicoke, Ont. Canada ----- Original Message ----- From: "Suzannah Foad" <suzannah.foad@btopenworld.com> To: <isle-of-thanet-l@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, November 04, 2010 7:14 AM Subject: [Isle-of-Thanet] MARGATE HOY COMPANY 1910 Isle of Thanet Gazette 26th March 1910. 'MARGATE HOY COMPANY' - At the ordinary general meeting of this Company, held at the Registered Office, 53, High Street, Margate, on Monday evening, the following report was received from the Directors, who are Messrs. John Bayly (Chairman), A.W. Bayly, H. Wootton, R. Rapson, l.A. Drain and George Judge:- "The Directors submit the accounts for the twelve months ending January 30th, 1910, and regret the working shows a small loss, partly accounted for by the reduction of rates and the running of two barges during the winter months, in order that the connection might be kept together. The retiring Directors by rotation are Mr. Henry Wootton and Mr. Robert Rapson who, being eligible, offer themselves for re-election". The balance sheet showed liabilities on the capital account in shares and debentures of £2,750, and on the revenue account, to creditors. £156. 3s. 6d., and cash due to the bank £85. 18s. 7d.; total £2,992. 2s. 1d. As as setts the Company's property was valued at £2,550, and on the revenue side of the account £5. 13s. 6d. was put down to petty cash, and £87. Os. 8d. as outstanding accounts to collect, whilst the balance at debit on the profit and loss account was stated to be £349. 7s. 11d. No dividends were, under the circumstances, payable to the shareholders. Margate Local & Family History ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ISLE-OF-THANET-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

1851 Hatcher Stephen 72 Head Agricultural Labourer Birchington, Kent Birchington Street, Birchington, Kent Hatcher Hannah 65 Wife Birchington, Kent Birchington Street, Birchington, Kent Hatcher John 44 Son Agricultural Labourer Birchington, Kent Birchington Street, Birchington, Kent Hatcher Thomas 26 Son Agricultural Labourer Birchington, Kent Birchington Street, Birchington, Kent Hatcher Thomas 10 Grand Son ScholarBirchington, Kent Birchington Street, Birchington, Kent 1861 Hatcher Thomas 20 Serv Porter Birchington, Kent Dane Hill Academy, Margate St John The Baptist, Kent 1871 Hatcher Ruth 49 Head Birchington, Kent East End Margate Road, Birchington, Kent Hatcher Thomas H 30 Boarder Porter Unemployed Birchington, Kent East End Margate Road, Birchington, Kent Deaths Sep 1875 HATCHER Thomas 34 Thanet 2a 464 Margate Local & Family History --- On Thu, 4/11/10, Joan Leary <joan.leary@ntlworld.com> wrote: From: Joan Leary <joan.leary@ntlworld.com> Subject: [Isle-of-Thanet] Thomas Hewitt Hatcher To: isle-of-thanet@rootsweb.com Date: Thursday, 4 November, 2010, 11:55 In 1840 Ruth Hatcher, who was deaf gave birth to an illegitimate son named above, he was christened at All Saints on 03/01/1841, does anyone have any info on him. Thank you, Joan. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ISLE-OF-THANET-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

In 1840 Ruth Hatcher, who was deaf gave birth to an illegitimate son named above, he was christened at All Saints on 03/01/1841, does anyone have any info on him. Thank you, Joan.

Isle of Thanet Gazette 26/3/1910. 'ALARMING ACCIDENT, HORSE CRUSHED TO DEATH' - On Tuesday afternoon a horse belonging to Mr. W. SAYER, carting contractor, was killed under peculiar circumstances. About 1. 55pm. Charles LAWRENCE, George FOX, and another man named Brown, employed at the Fort Point promenade works, were engaged in lowering one of the heavy blocks of concrete, weighing about 19cwt., by a manual crane from the cliff top to the sands below when, by some means unexplained, the crane collapsed and the huge block fell a distance of about 30 feet. Immediately beneath it was the horse in question, in charge of William HEADLAM, Marlborough Road, and the heavy mass fell upon the poor animal, breaking its back. Death was almost instantaneous. The rods of the cart were smashed, but fortunately HEADLAM and the other men in the vicinity escaped injury. Margate Local & Family History